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March 18, 2021

2021 March Madness Preview and Bracket Breakdown

2021 March Madness Preview and Bracket Breakdown

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On this Episode of Missing the Point, we preview the return of March Madness, we’ll break down the bracket and which region will be the one to watch out for which players will be the ones to watch out for as the best time for College Basketball has returned.

Hosts: Bob Kelly, Dave Clarke, Rayshawn Buchanan
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Transcript
Rob Kelly:

Welcome everyone to the missing the point, March Madness breakdown. We finally got the basketball crew together on the real BK Bob Kelly here with DK sizzle Dave Clark. Right john Buchanan. It's March Madness time guys last year was taken away from us due to COVID-19. NCAA did everything they possibly could to get us a tournament this year. And we have it couldn't be more excited about it. I told you guys over the weekend I spent 48 straight hours watching basketball last weekend, and it was one of the best 48 hours I've spent a lot of time I'll be doing tonight boys DK How are we doing

Dave Clarke:

man? I'm good man. I'm so pumped to have like, I'm so pumped to have the attorney like it feels slowly but surely coming into 2021 like we're getting like little tiny pieces of normalcy back wasn't sure it was hit or miss like it was touch and go whether we're gonna have a March Madness tournament, which would have been really disappointing with like, everything that's gone down as much as we made the bubble fun. I need like a real authentic basketball experience and with how the Celtics have been doing this year, and like everything that's been going on, like I just haven't felt as plugged into anything basketball related as I do March Madness right now, and it just feels like feels like old times with the attorney. You know, I mean, it just feels like we're gonna, we're gonna have a really, like you keep saying we're gonna have like big basketball boulders all through the rest of the month. And it's going to be a crazy tournament, I'm sure we'll get into like, it's because of the, you know, fan restrictions because of like, the years that it is the fact that like, there's big teams that aren't in and it's going to be a nuts, turning we you know, we're gonna see like 12 seeds, eight seeds, like go farther than we think. Everybody's brackets gonna be busted in a week. And we're gonna be crying into our microphones, but like, it's gonna be great. I'm just pumped as the big market teams right there, which

Rob Kelly:

eight seats, which 12 seats, right.

Dave Clarke:

I mean, there's always a couple but you know, this year is gonna be so weird. So like, ya

Rob Kelly:

know, I couldn't agree more Rachel, man.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, I mean, just like they say for Christmas, you know, it's the most wonderful time of the year. So yeah, it's the most wonderful time of the year, man. And especially if you're a basketball fan, like Dave said, like an authentic Spanish, right, like, you know, obviously, we get to know who's going to be for yourself, because we're not going to trading draft picks. So we know how that goes. So we're looking at future Celtics, you know, so what can we get hyped up about this only going to get 1.8 points per game. That's

Dave Clarke:

the thing is every good player in the tournament? I'm imagine I'm just I've decided he's exotic already. I'm like, oh, we're good. We're good. We should go get him.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Exactly. That's the dreaming stars.

Dave Clarke:

Now Sony enough. The biggest dream was kemba. Walker, and he plays for us.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah. Right, exactly. But you know, but, you know, 10 years ago, he was cardiac come, but he put on one of the best turn of tournament performances of all time. So you know that that's exactly. So you know, we're gonna see some of that now. But I said, you know, I'm excited to get the basketball guys together, like we said, and, you know, I look forward to jumping. So let's do it.

Rob Kelly:

Alright, yeah, for sure. A couple things about tournament this year. So it is COVID. So it's a little different. Normally, we have four different regions, and people are spaced out throughout the country. And that's how it's separated a Midwest, east, west and the south. Yeah, and South. But this year, everyone is in their own is in one big bubble in Indiana, which I completely agree with what DK said, I think it's going to lead to exactly what it's called a lot of madness this year. Not only that, but I think we have some of the strongest while recedes that I've seen in a long time when it goes from the eight to the 13 line. And we'll definitely get into that. So I want to start, right. With the number one team in the country. They've been the number one team in the country all year. And that's the West region and the Gonzaga Bulldogs, this team is loaded. They're a team that, I don't know if anyone can actually beat them, considering I'll go through the rest of the Seas up to four. So we have Iowa to seed Kansas, three seed, and Virginia for seed. See all those teams really good. But the thing is Gonzaga beat each one of them convincingly already this season. Now, do you guys see that as something that's a positive for Gonzaga going forward that you know, they're battle tested, they can beat these teams? Or is that makes them vulnerable? Because they're gonna have to see him twice. dk?

Dave Clarke:

Well, they're four against top 25. Right. So every time they come in, they seem to impress their game plan on every team that they play. And I think, with college, you know, and I'm going to talk a lot about the difference between College and the NBA because I think it is important to highlight it and come March Madness time. Both sides of the ball are so much more important in college basketball, and they're really good defensive team as well as a very good offensive team. And I think that in college when you see teams coming in from their regional tournaments that have played consistent, strong tenacious defense, you see a team knock it slipped up like not hit a banana skin. What I've seen number one seeds in the past that are shooting teams, you know, fast teams, those are teams that can get tripped up when they hit the tourney when it comes to Gonzaga. I think defensively they're so strong and I don't care. Anything that even gets talked about enough because you're just so dominant on both sides of the ball. But I think that there's so defensively strong that something weirds gonna happen like we said, like some weird scene of like, I'm not even sure where they're playing first, who they play in first. Do we even know yet?

Rob Kelly:

nordlocker Appalachian. Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

yeah, so one of those two teams like that they could come in and give them a game. And when you're a Gonzaga, and you have all the pressure, and the commentators are going like, Oh, dear, we get rigid, we have a giant killing happening, you can just go back on defense, you know what I mean? You can just rely on your defense that to control the game, stop the bleeding and like, move forward. So I just don't see. I know, it's like a boring take, but I just don't see anything, really slipping them up until they meet who I think they're going to meet in the Final Four, which will be Michigan, and then that's going to be a battle because I think Michigan are good, too. But I also think they're gonna be Michigan. So who knows? No, they're gonna be fine.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

They're really good. They're really good team, obviously. You know, I think some people are questioning obviously, because, you know, as the corporate season, you know, is the best team that Murphy was had, you know, obviously, you know, in 2017 you know, they also made the final four actually made a national championship game, because they lost them my tarios in 2017. So, you know, who knows what, this is the best thing that Murphy was put together, you know, I know gentlemen Southern Company are looking to you know, make sure that is the case. But, you know, Murphy was had a lot of talent come through there. Yes. And, you know, they haven't gotten to that promise, like they've gotten to the game, but they haven't really gotten over the hump. So it seems like they're primed to do it this year. We'll see. You know, but you know, there's teams that have their 11 inch overseas that made that may really go on and on a crazy run and we'll get into that so I don't think there's a lot that they want especially when it's just a one game it's really a one game playoff so especially in college like you know, Dave said he's going to talk about the differences between college and pros. All Someone has to do is really get hot on another team a guard a big man or whatever it is once that momentum swings in college it's usually a wrap because now people start getting you know backside to get tight people start going crazy and you know next to like Florida Gulf Coast a few years ago right remember them you know that team they would dump it on everybody next to you know, was like oh,

Dave Clarke:

oh, in the West Do you see doing that because like this is another reason which I didn't say that Gonzaga I think you're gonna have a pretty easy walk is that there's no one in the West particularly that I think can jam them up and especially like with who with how the matchups are working out like they won't even see Kansas till the end. So it's like an even in even Kansas or Virginia to those both those teams are dealing with COVID protocol right now. And they're not even as good as they usually are.

Rob Kelly:

Right? And they've already beat them. They beat all four topsfiewd so I agree with DK is the easiest bracket Gonzaga could have drew when I think about what they drew this is one of the easier brackets that could have got USC to me is a team that sticks out because they've Evan Mobley he's the type of guy Ray was just talking about that he could take a game over he can be the Kamba he can take that team really far. But they

Dave Clarke:

wouldn't even see them until they wouldn't even see them until the Elite Eight

Rob Kelly:

right and they might not get past they might not get past one of my Cinderella's and Drake. So I mean, I love Drake. They're one of my favorite teams. Yeah, they're one of my favorite teams of the brackets.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, do do right, do right and kill everything. But no, but I think you know, I want to answer what they have asked me Could they have said or do I think that you know, could upset them not even upset them, but just take them out the tournament right? Bob probably knows where I'm going because I've been talking about this guy a couple of times throughout the season of that Iowa team, Luka Garza that dude is to me it is a problem to me like say, I think he's getting like 23 eight on a year. Like, I just think he's someone that can just take over the game inside and out. And to me if he catches fire, and that team follows his lead. I think that's the team that can get them Now granted, because they are the to see you're right, Dave, they won't see them. At least it's like the Elite Eight or, you know, maybe they even the Final Four. So we don't know, but I think that I would see him as someone that we could look out for for sure. Mainly because of that number 55. That, you know, to me, he's a baller for

Rob Kelly:

so if we're looking for first round upsets potential teams that we think could take teams out early, Ohio 13 seed, they have a guy Jason Preston. Well, I guess I watch a lot of basketball this weekend in Ohio is one of the games I watch. I was so impressed with this kid man. He is fast he can shoot. He's six four.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, he know about me. He

Rob Kelly:

loves me a sick borsch gritty guard,

Unknown:

guard, you love them.

Rob Kelly:

But like them going up against Virginia, Virginia has been suspect to that early round, upset year in and year out. I know they want it last year, but they have COVID issues right now. And they are the only team ever to lose as the one team.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

But they can always defend like they're gonna win. That's what they've talked about how good teams can lean on equals like Tony Bennett is going to have them not to be confused with the singer. But he's gonna he's gonna have them you know, he's gonna have them playing defense. So that's always been the calling card and also to just you know, we're going into deeper I got Georgetown being in Tennessee, Georgetown to Tennessee and shout out to Patrick Ewing. I know who you want to match this, Greg Good people and they may not know who you are but I know you are actually

Dave Clarke:

creating and creating them UC Santa Barbara which is like hilarious to me because UC Santa Barbara the UC Santa Barbara is like the biggest party school in all of California if not like America so I have like a weird feeling that they're going to go kind of far based just on that like not based on who they have on the basketball team just based on like the fan there's always one team where the fans are like wicked into it but I guess there's no fan so I don't know if that's going to really play in this narrative this time. Well in Creighton to Creighton has the bad karma on their side too. Or Greg McDermott head coach

Rob Kelly:

I don't know if you guys remember earlier in the season, he made some pretty insensitive comments and ended up getting suspended and he so they got their asses spanked in that Big East championship game by Georgetown. So I agree I think UCSB is gonna pull that upset

Dave Clarke:

that's that's one of the ones I definitely have on my bracket UCSB. And then I know you like that guy and Ohio. But I think Virginia's gonna beat them. And I think Virginia is then immediately going to use UCSB. And then it's like, I don't think anybody matches up well in the West against Gonzaga. Like I said, No,

Rob Kelly:

all this is just to see who can lose to Gonzaga in the day.

Dave Clarke:

Right? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, especially because Gonzaga have those two crazy forwards like are just good. That like are so good. So fast. So talk like

Rob Kelly:

Casper, Suggs and

Dave Clarke:

kispert. tv as a team is they're both putting up like 20 points a game, they're both fast. One of them's teaming i think is like six or seven or something like that. And he's like he's just good. And every time I've seen those forwards play like reminds me it's got that kind of boys playing men vibe to it when those two guys are trying to score and they can just they can move the handles they got all the things so don't put your Don't get your hopes up with Drake. I know they're not even in the tournament yet. But like hedges that West is so weak compared comparably to like who you know who the rest of the teams are playing. And like, I guess you could say this. I don't wanna get ahead of myself. You keep us going on that on the conferences because I was about to jump over to Baylor.

Rob Kelly:

I will Alright, so you want to go over there. Now we've got a bonus. Last thing before we leave. So Grand Canyon 15 T. They're not going to win. Definitely not first time in BRYCE DREW is the head coach there. Valpo great. Everyone remembers the BRYCE DREW shot when he played for Valpo if you guys see go watch the intro to their basketball games. That looks like the funnest college in the funnest school to go to ever. Like they just sit there and they just bombed dubstep and it's just the biggest party I've ever seen. It looks so goddamn funny.

Dave Clarke:

I think that's going to be the big upset in the south is UNC beat Baylor in the whatever it is sweet 16 they would play I think and I think it's because that like it's I think the South is a much tougher region than the West and I think that North Carolina I always kind of liked them just based on their baby blue uniforms I think are cool and MJ but I think that that you got that as the kind of magic about him like not exactly like a whole shit like look at that one guy but they've got like a good squad and I think that they could come up against a team like Baylor and like knock him out and like maybe get to the final for the Elite Eight you know I can see it happening but I just always had a soft spot for UNC now as much as right but I always have and I see that being like the big one seat upset.

Rob Kelly:

My takeaway from this bracket was and I couldn't agree with you more so we have Baylor Ohio State Arkansas Purdue as our top four seeds. To me that's a very weak top four seeds considering what we've been seeing and I think this is the chaos region. This is where we're gonna see just upsets all over the place. Baylor might survive that. I don't know UNC is very good team. I think they're very underrated. And he

Dave Clarke:

I didn't see I didn't see I don't know a ton about the individual players. But I know that like when I've seen them play like they play good team pass like Ray correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure you've watched them a lot more than I have this year but they play good team basketball and like you said it is a weird division. My first instinct when I first looked at that division when I was picking my bracket was like oh, I don't like any of these teams, you know, so that's why I kind of went with you and seek out there are getting a little farther in that division because it's like, I just don't like any of them anything can happen it's I think it's gonna be the funnest and craziest region is the South because it's like there's a bunch of teams where it's like, Who's that guy and then there's some teams or it's like who they should be better than they are. Why is their seat solo? Not to like Kansas level or Baylor also a week one seat? I think so. Yeah, I

Rayshawn Buchanan:

mean, I'm totally biased obviously, like, you know, I'm not afraid to say that, you know, I definitely you know, but I mean, this is not I'm not I won't say I'm confident that this team will go to the elite I'm hoping that they do. But I mean, you know, when you're leading score, Armando bacot is like averaging total points. A game is hard, like the fact that they like I knew they wasn't going to be more than AMC. I thought they were going to be like a 10 3011 seat on it, honestly. But I think they got a seat off their name and you know who their coaches being Roy Williams. So I'm hoping to Myrna Baker can turn up a notch and someone on their catch fire how they're

Rob Kelly:

endowed is Roy Williams, being a coach is a big part of it, too, is like you never know, they don't even name like that. You can like get guys behind you in the tournament, like happen when guys like that are involved. You know, the thing with Baylor too, is they you know, they were one of the better teams, they were right on line with Gonzaga for most of the season. And they had that COVID pause. And they haven't really looked the same sense. They haven't got back that same flow. So I doubt they're very vulnerable coming out of that one. See. Also if you look at the teams, ranked six through 14 in this bracket, right? You have Texas Tech, very solid basketball team final for two years ago. Granted is very different team than OSU very many threes, but they're good. UNC Florida, Virginia Tech, Utah State Winthrop, North Texas, and one of my Cinderella's Colgate 14 See, but so you look at those teams, and every single one of them could make a run into the sweet 16 of this tournament. And there's no doubt about that you look at I mean, Utah state's playing Texas Tech, Texas Tech is like I said, they can get cold if they don't hit their threes, and they're not playing the game that they can play they could get upset. Texas Tech on the other hand, if they are hitting their shots, they could make a run and easily beat Arkansas. So there's a lot of teams on the bottom ends of this bracket. I think that could advance further for sure. Yeah, I'm

Rayshawn Buchanan:

honestly I'm ready to see Mac McClung do work right. You know, he got a lot of hype coming out. Yeah, he got a lot of hype coming out of high school. You know, he goes to Georgetown, you know, really didn't do much over there. You know, he comes down to down to Lubbock where you know, test set is, you know, so I think he's getting like 15 points on the season so you know, now he's not much of a playmakers who's more of a volume guy but he's a little guy right so I know that's why he was on Bobby's player so watch because he's a little guy that can that can jump off the building right so I do like his game. I don't know how it translates to the next level but we're only talking about March Madness So I think he's someone that's gonna have to take over a game in order for his team so when so you know cuz we're the Texas Tech is the one that will succeed 60 games so they're playing, they're gonna play Utah State so you should win that game. So Mac McClung, you come up there you're doing the videos a viral you know you put up your arms and we talk about oh come see me about that life well if you bought that life then you should usually send it you send Utah State without even know what their you know what their what their mascot is and send them boys home center pack in

Dave Clarke:

Texas Tech also beat Texas here. Yeah, so it's like and like I know that's like an inner state rivalry and like weird stuff can happen in those games, but I watched that game and like they were good, you know, like they played some good

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I would say like Matt Coleman has to be that guy for Texas. But you know, I know he's not in this bracket but I was just making that point because we talked about Texas Tech and then Texas but I will say

Rob Kelly:

I like Texas a

Dave Clarke:

lot when they've been good they've been really good. Like offensively they've been really good it's just consistency is their issue and like Like you said, anybody can catch fire. So like coming out like they're just in right in that little I was gonna say bubble but obviously bubbles in the right terminology but they're right in that little kind of weird swing spot where like you said they couldn't they could have easily been a 16 I think they were for a minute. And I think it's just like, you know, I just see them as like they're that guy bucho or so I don't know how to say his name that you were just talking about. You said he was averaging 12 points a game but he's seven he was averaging 17 overs last five games. So you know you're talking about one player Catching Fire one one player like trying to like make a you know, and he's also a big man he was bigger. So you know, he's averaging eight to 10 rebounds a game. Like Like I say in the march tournament in the madness tournament like defense greedy basketball rebounds, like that can start that can start fires like that can start this tournament. I just I got a weird feeling about him for that for those reasons. So yeah, like you said, Bobby, like the kind of the sixth the 12th like there's some good pics out of there. And I feel like one of those could like rise up and sweep Baylor to the side because like they're no Gonzaga, I'll tell you that.

Rob Kelly:

For sure for sure. And to touch on that 12 seat. Everyone knows 12 seats always pop you're upset Peck. Winthrop is 28 and one. The only loss they had was they blew a point lead to UNC Asheville also a tournament team. I'm pretty sure UNC Asheville they have the best names out of all the tournament on their team Donis arms 10.5 points again guys last name is Arne and Chandler vowden. Chandler Valjean sounds like just a three point sniper from the outside. Just saying Yeah, I like winter a lot. I think they can make a run. They could definitely upset Villanova. Villanova is down there number one player going into the tournament. His name is escaping me at the moment college last week. Yeah. ACL later in the season. So yeah, he's definitely one of the better.

Unknown:

That's why they're seated behind. So they're gonna go out early.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah. So I see them advancing on and I think that they could give any team in the tournament a test. So look for Winthrop to advance, possibly just be 16 out of this bracket. So we'll go over next I want to go to the middle we talked about,

Unknown:

we talked about Purdue and

Rob Kelly:

now we go back to Purdue was I so my thing will produce the reason I skipped over them one of the reasons and Ohio State man we're gonna go back to so at Purdue, I picked them almost every single year. And they every goddamn time man. Like I love Purdue. They're one of the teams that pick when I do NCAA tournament and like, you know, Xbox, or they're one of my favorite teams favorite jerseys. Love them. But man, they choke every goddamn year. And I just can't do it with him anymore. I just see them as another typical Purdue team. They're out second round,

Dave Clarke:

forget it ever you're saying but over the course of over the course of their season, they have some like pretty big important losses to get revenge with and one of them one a big one. And one of the big narratives is they have to play Ohio State again, it wouldn't be till later, I think probably only now. It'll be later anyway, sweet. 16 a minimum. So when they play Ohio State, it's like they got beat bad by them this year and they match up really well against them. So I think that they might have a target on those guys when they see them. I know a lot has to happen for that to happen. But I can see the targets momentum even through to I know I'm positive on every team basically at this point, but you kind of have to be in the bracket because it's like shit, they might be good. They might be good. They might be good. And I actually do I know what you mean when it comes beauty. I don't and when it comes to they've screwed up. They've screwed up my bracket before too. I think they have with everybody before teamlab too. So who are you going to take you know what I mean? Like Purdue or better to Villanova with with like the health status so and Villanova I haven't had to screw me over before to same with like, I feel like Georgetown's done that to me before like there's a bunch of teams that I have always tried to stay away from because I like always pick them they're always like a one through five seed or like tier one and then they always go out too early and and they screw up my entire bracket. Because they're you know, they're supposed to be the regional picks but I think this year, but everything all the weird stuff that's happening with the way that Purdue played in like, you know, pre turned me and the way they're kind of they're they're looking pretty hot coming in. And like I said, a to avenge. I like, I would like to stock like this pig on this line in the Dave camp. All right.

Rob Kelly:

I mean, I was I don't hate you for it. They have some ballers over there. They have treyvion Williams trivia Williams is he's gonna be a lot of respect when he comes out. Yeah, he's really good.

Dave Clarke:

It is Ohio State for them in the Elite Eight. And that to me is that's, I can see I can that's gonna be the game. It's gonna be Ohio State and Purdue and Purdue are gonna win. Alright, I

Rob Kelly:

don't hate that. I don't hate that. Another team. I want to touch on Ohio State, just because you were just talking about this team is also really good. They hit a couple bumps in the road at the end of the season. They were almost right on that number one slot. But then they lost four games in a row as the regular season. They made it all the way to the big 10 championship game and played an absolute gem against Michigan. That was a great game. So this team is definitely battle tested, they can definitely make a run in this tournament. I know that's not like a hot take because there are two seats, but they're very popular pit coming out of this bracket. And I can definitely see why Dwayne Washington ej would doubt that they're awesome.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

So just like how you guys got on for dude, like, that's how I'm gonna say about Ohio State, right? Like, even when they were favorite before, right when they had, you know, Mike Conley and Greg oden and, you know, then a couple years later, then you had Edmond Turner, the lead gen soldier like they they will make a little bit of noise, but then just when you expect them to win the fold. So to me, they're only there. Yeah, they may have a good team and yes, they did to seed But once again, in a year where certain teams didn't make it wasn't because of Cobra protocols. The record just wasn't good. You know, they were really just gifted a two seed. I don't think they're really true to like our true it's a two seed excuse me came in can't even get it out. Right? Because it's not right. They're not that good. Either. They're going to be that good when it matters, honestly. But, I mean, who knows? I could be wrong, you know, so I'm definitely playing both sides of the fence here as I say that, but I just think historically they haven't been good in the tournament winning matter so I don't see any reason for it to be different.

Dave Clarke:

They'll be right I'll be right and i agree with you because I like I just feel First of all, I like Michigan I think Michigan are much better team than them. I watched that big 10 Tournament game too and I feel like Michigan didn't play up to their usual standard. I don't think Ohio State are that good. I think I just said I didn't produce go knock them out. And I think I yeah, I think because I have Michigan going really far. I think I haven't gone to the Final Four I want to say and like or maybe the front no cuz I have the Moomins are going to Final Four. So If you know what's them but the more we get to the east you know i don't think i don't think Ohio State showed me anything in that game that says they're going to go really far in the in this tournament and I think that like I said we'll talk about this we get to these but I think that made a lot of people underestimate Michigan I like

Rob Kelly:

last upset for this bracket 14 seed over at number three Arkansas they both play identical games this is going to be one of the games that tournament you guys are gonna love it is one of the the fastest game you're gonna see all year Colgate all they do is run Arkansas all they do is run it's going to be one of the best upsets in my opinion of the bracket. I'm calling it now I have in every bracket I filled out Colgate over Arkansas is happening right do you think I'm crazy man? I know I know you like Moses moody he's easier kind of guy I know you like him. So yeah, my nuts are

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I mean you may be man I mean like I said I don't realize that See? I like teams that run so that's that is something I'm a fan of So You said that teams are very similar. I haven't seen Colgate at all outside of my bathroom. Could I brush my teeth Colgate you know but so was there anything like their toothpaste and they may mess around and do an upset because they're pretty good. But no, I don't see that happening. I mean, granted if you put in every bracket and it seems like you're manifesting that to happen so who knows but no, but the mood may just be right for Arkansas. So I think they get it done. So we'll say

Rob Kelly:

the Midwest to me is the bracket of doom. This bracket is stacked from top to bottom. We got so the Midwest has one seed one seed Illinois. They're unbelievable to see Houston also unbelievable. This team is one of the most resilient teams in college basketball he was here better I think they should be the seed seed but that's just me. I like that I'm gonna go back to you on that. Okay foreseen Oklahoma State Cade Cunningham. I made the name says itself. This guy is going to be the number one pick in the Draft. Also, we got Keon Johnson from Tennessee in this bracket miles McBride from West Virginia, Jose Alvarado from Georgia Tech, Kofi Cockburn Illinois a. I can never say his name dosunmu from Illinois. This bracket stack from top to bottom. It's one of my favorite brackets the best mid major team who I know I'm going to go to you for this DK way. Oh, Chicago, by far the best med major came in college basketball. They made the Final Four, Three years ago the

Dave Clarke:

Cinderella run.

Rob Kelly:

I can't wait. Yeah, this team is even better. You know, what's her name? Yes, sister Jean Sister, sister Jean is back in the tournament. Ladies, Gentlemen, we're going to DK tell us what your Cinderella is here.

Dave Clarke:

Alright, so I will talk about West Virginia also because I had a tough time with those two but to start with Loyola, Chicago like sister Jean, obviously, we love that we need that. We need a little 2021 good vibes fun viral meme shit. Like we're about it. I'm about it. You guys are about it when it happened the first time, obviously. But also like I said, like, yeah, how could you not be like it's a good litmus test for you being a miserable fuck if you didn't think that was awesome. But like, like I said, what do they focus on defense, their defensive team they get back in transition? I'll tell you exactly why it's completely biased and personal reason I saw them play like a couple of games. At in the height of our I'm mad about the Boston Celtics period. And what they do really well is they get back and transition on defense, you know, they don't chase the offensive boards, because they're not that committee, they immediately get back and they lock into their zones.

Rob Kelly:

The most efficient defense in the country,

Dave Clarke:

literally statistically the most efficient defense in the country for a mid major team to be holding teams to something like 69 points a game you know to that to that with the teams I understand I understand the plane nobody like I get that. But it's they're holding teams defensively because they play good defense. They play body man defense, they can they their switches are faster transitions that are fast. I'm about it. Look, they could lose in the first game. Sure. But at least it'll be fun to watch. You know, it'll be my kind of basketball. They'll be smart, defensive basketball, good switches. No one's gonna do anything infuriating like falling guys taking frequent jump shots like the Celtics love to do these days. And I think it's just gonna be like you said, I think we bracket of doom, that in the Midwest, it's got so so many crazy things that can happen. So antibotics, West Virginia, on the other hand, you are like the best gambling team. And to me if you're putting money on individual games, I love West Virginia. I'll tell you why. All I think I forget the exact stat. But it's like, they had nine losses this season and like seven or eight of them, but we're by less than five points. And all nine losses came from tournament teams, every single one. So a team like that has a team that's just yet they lose whatever. They've lost those games, but they're hardened. They're forged in steel, the teams that they played were legitimate, like conference. champions, like legitimate March Madness, tournament teams that better they're all trying to make runs. They played against big guys, but like, a lot of times you see you see teams like this come in and they're just like, holy shit. We've never played against a guy that size before. Like you saw his eye on do that to so many teams when he was in college. I mean, he does that seems the NBA too. But you see that happen where it's like holy shit, we've never played a team this fast before holy shit never played a team this strong for big before. West Virginia has been absolutely forged in fire when it comes to the teams that they played. And like, I think they can absolutely beat anybody in the field, essentially, like with the exception of like, I've maybe a couple I mean, Illinois is in the Midwest. And and like you said, I really do think Illinois are strong. Like they're one of the best teams in America. And I think they're my second strongest one seed. I think you guys would agree with that. I think it's Gonzaga and in them.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Rob Kelly:

I can dose a pneumo there, man. He's just a closer you know what I mean? Like they say coffee's for closers, this dude can drink some

Dave Clarke:

man a cup of Joe. But what I hope not because I really think the Midwest is a lot of fun. I think there's a lot of fun teams in there. I think Loyola Chicago fun. I think West Virginia fun and I think West Virginia have a point to prove that and they have a chip on their shoulder and I think they're gonna be like a lot of fun to watch. Oh, and they have that guy. What the hell's his name? Who West Virginia? Yeah, with that cover,

Unknown:

they're covered. Here, clover.

Dave Clarke:

He's so fast for a guy who's so big. He moves around. So you'll see if you haven't watched them at all. Like, I'm probably I know you've watched like a shitload of college basketball. But if you watch them, like you're like, Wait a second. I'm sorry. How big is that guy and he moves around so well. I think the basket but the problem is I think Illinois. I haven't got I can do that too. But he's so fast. And I think he might be legit seven footer, which is like in college. Oh, shit. Maybe when you see stuff like that. So I'm excited. I'm excited to watch them. I'm excited for the Midwest like that's, I'm just excited to see how the whole Midwest shakes out. Yeah, this is the bracket for me.

Rob Kelly:

Two, three, and four. All three of those seeds have a case for being legit two seats. We have Houston, Western Georgia and Oklahoma State Oklahoma State was criminally defeated as a fourth seat. They should not be forced. They beat West Virginia twice. They beat West Virginia twice and then West Virginia got ranked ahead of them.

Unknown:

You know, I'm

Rob Kelly:

not hating on West Virginia. It's just like when you see that? It's like okay, so Oklahoma State is not a four seat. You know what I mean? They are a to c there are three seats and they're

Dave Clarke:

also there seven to seven seat in the Midwest is Clemson. You know what I mean? Like, I know, it's not that old but like, it's still Clemson you know, Rutgers is in there. They're pretty decent, like

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Well, I mean, well, I think they dropped to the forest scene because they lost him to boot camp championship game in Texas. That was the problem Oklahoma State. But listen, I mean, you know, Dave gave great analysis of the big tall Bobby you just give analysis. It all comes down to this. There's only one guy that we need to worry about. And that's k Cunningham that meson assassin like hey, like I said, we just talked about him being number one pick if he's on it doesn't matter. I don't care about a yo a yo k k by the bus that out that's what's about to happen as soon as he gets on that floor, they face each other later on in this tournament. But look out it's gonna it's going to be a problem. And it's funny it's cool to see Illinois beat is good obviously you know Illinois hasn't been this this relevant real estate since we were born. Do you know what I do for D brown Deron Williams and Luke Luke the head router head to head Yeah, so you know so that that was the big trail they wouldn't they they were the number one seed I think they actually lost them like they were they lost in my Tar Heels to back then. So you know, so there's just like,

Rob Kelly:

who was the coach of Illinois back then? It was

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I wanted to say Ron cook, but I might be football. I don't know if I'm getting it wrong. Cook was

Dave Clarke:

a basketball name. Sounds like

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yes, I'm gonna go check me on it. Right. But But even even with West Virginia to Ron

Rob Kelly:

Zook, no, no Rockies football

Rayshawn Buchanan:

rock, okay. Anyway. No, but it's funny, like I haven't watched I mean, I'll take days where frickin I haven't watched and also Virginia basketball. I haven't heard anybody be interested in West Virginia really says Kevin piss. Naugle was there, and that was years ago, and

Dave Clarke:

I got some good players. I'm telling you.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

No, no, I'm saying I believe you I'm just saying

Rob Kelly:

he's a great coach too.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

He is he knows me I know he just is a Cincinnati as well. So you know, I know you know his team's play really good defense and you know they're they take on any attitude they coach for sure. So that's the case and I know Dave like I said hard nosed I was incensed by a wise he's going hard for them so that's understandable but yeah, like I said I just remember the team being you know worthy of that type of praise Felicia Kevin first novel days and

Dave Clarke:

like dates you guys they had two guys that got they got two guys that got honorable mentions Culver got on camera mentioned for the AP all American team and soda miles me Brian. So you know, they have it's like they have this weird kind of identity where it's like they're kind of a cusp team, you know, like that. And I know you know, they've lost some of the teams we've been talking about in that Midwest region, but they you know, they have this kind of like if they could just figure out this one thing if they could just close out this one thing. They'd be like, you know, a much, much better team. I think for me One of the best the second best team in the Midwest and I think that it's not that big of a drop off to be 100% honest with you so but you're like you said you're right. I mean, I do love in college basketball. I think we discovered recently in the NBA I'm actually like a closeted like, you know, flamboyant, flashy offensive slasher play fan, even though I used to say I was like on the fundamentals, but James Harden so good.

Rob Kelly:

I went so in on the fundamentals and a DK just abandoned me on the fundamentals. fundamentals are boring, the hell are you talking about?

Dave Clarke:

I just think that the NBA, it's been beaten into me in the NBA, that it's about who your best one player is and who your best three players are. And it's just like, I think I said that I love fundamentals because and I love defensive plays, because it's something I've always had that identity and even we have great players like piercing Arnett and Allen, it's like we you know, the way we got through the Cavs was to play that kind of team defense on the Bron James. And it's just fun. That stuff is just fun to watch. For me. It's like people figuring out the game of basketball. And it happens so often in the March Madness tournament. And I think that, you know, with a good coach a good system with like battle tested players and like guys right on the cusp, that like you said, it only takes one guy to catch fire. I'm just I'm loving them right now. I'm so high on them. Watch them lose in the first round.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, right. Right. Right now is I want to ask something about Houston too, right? So it's a shame that they didn't get to that we didn't see them in a tournament last year. I don't know. I don't know. I can't think who's on the team right now. But they had a kid last year named Nathan Henson, who's in a league now that if he if he was in the League Cup, paired with whatever they have on a team now, Houston might have made it to the Final Four. Like that's how good Nate to him was, in my opinion, you know, so it's too bad. They didn't get there. But I mean, clearly, they had a good team there because now it went from a team that wasn't really recognized to now that it was seen and they won the American Athletic Conference. So

Dave Clarke:

they also in in the Midwest, they have a pretty quick walk. They have a pretty quick walk Houston, like they have teams and they should

Rayshawn Buchanan:

if they should they should get there. You know, you obviously you know, Houston is has had some decent teams in the past, obviously, but not really since the 80s. You know, you know, that team that lost the NC State in the 80s with Jimbo along with him, but yeah, man, so I don't know. We'll see like it looks. I said the Midwest. Definitely. I actually Honestly, I thought that West was gonna have the best bracket. Honestly, I know. You guys said it was kind of weak. But when you have Kansas Gonzaga, somebody who I think that's going to be the biggest one, but this is right behind it, in my opinion. But I said we'll see. We'll see how it plays out. But you know, Dave's sweetheart pick the Loyola Chicago team. They said they may mess around and still get to the sweet 16 or the Elite Eight and like just for a failure story. I hope that actually happens.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, no, I would love it. I mean, who doesn't love that that that run that they did to the way they did it was so amazing with the last second shots in Miami and someone else back to back it was awesome.

Unknown:

Magic. No. Magic.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

This is the gene says that says that three

Rob Kelly:

couple oversees the lookout for we'll start with six San Diego State day one, the Mountain West seems really good. They beat Utah State also a tournament team and the Mountain West tournament title. They smoked them absolutely dominated. They have some solid players, Mark Mitchell, Jordan shackle, they're really good. They're veteran team. That's the thing is with San Diego State is they're that type of team. They always do that, where they're really good every few years because they recruit for seniors, they don't recruit for these one on ones they don't recruit for that other type of teams have stayed together for four years. So that's why once they get into the tournament every few years, they're a dangerous team. Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

I mean, look at Duke not being an attorney this year is because they were they reverted from that model. You know, for so many years, it was like, if you come to Duke, you know, you're gonna play for it, you're gonna play until you're at least a junior, you know, and you're gonna learn the fundamentals of basketball. And you're going to take, you're going to if you've drafted a Duke player for so long as we know, you would get a complete and more complete version from where when you got that you'll get from anywhere else. Now they have to switch to that kind of one and done model. And now they're not

Rayshawn Buchanan:

worked. Say Tina was wanting to dive in. He's been a problem. Zion was one and done. No problem, RJ Barrett.

Rob Kelly:

My favorite part about it this year, though, was when Duke was like, hey, by the way, by the way, hey, we'll be in the tournament if you want to, we'll be in it. We're still eligible. And he says like,

Unknown:

yeah, they suck now. We're good. We don't need it was

Rayshawn Buchanan:

like 24 three, or 25 or three or whatever. Like, you can rest assured they will have tried to catch the season. They would have done everything. They could send me a shirt. They're like, Listen, I'm listening. I'm not gonna embarrass them. But I know I just I know. Dave, you're right to an extent but I said he has had the one that does be successful. I wish that Roy Williams would do that because I'm like, our best freakin player was Marcus eight scroll while and I'm just like Marcus page is not better than

Dave Clarke:

the one on this model. But Deuce Deuce consistency and their reputation is based on the fact that if you come to Duke, you're going to play The March Madness tournament you know what I mean? And you're gonna play for Coach K and like that it's a what what have you done for me lately kind of sport? You know, it's like if they don't get to three years in a row because like they can't because like then obviously you can't get the one done players you know like you still you need to have a balance of both you still need to get in after those guys leave at least you're still Duke It's embarrassing that you're not in there. And it's like, you know, it's something's rotten in the state of Denmark right and those guys not to say that I don't love to see Duke lose. I mean, who doesn't love to see Duke lose? Which is why I kind of went in there there is like the weakest Duke team, you know? So whatever.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Oh, when they last at Lehigh. Oh my god. Oh, that was the best. CJ McCollum Oh my god.

Rob Kelly:

So rockers is no team to look out for. They beat some quality teams Purdue Sarah keys, Marilyn, they have to you guys know I love my bloodlines, to a former NBA player sons. They have Joe Baker oven Baker son, and Ron hopper Jr. Which is just beautiful. So I think Rutgers could make a run 13 that they were gonna get in last year. They didn't because they got canceled. So look out for them. Sarah Keith, do I have to say anything else that don't, you know, every year March Madness

Dave Clarke:

places. They don't put anyone in a place that zone basically. Nobody wants to play Oh, man. They nobody wants to play.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, so they're always upset.

Dave Clarke:

Their zone isn't as good as it used to be. I will say that it's not even a few years ago, but like nobody wants them. Nobody wants to get

Rayshawn Buchanan:

they don't have the same athlete. So that's the problem.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, exactly. Which is like that's gonna happen. But like, they nobody wants to get slapped again.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Once again, we talked about coaching, right? We said Roy Williams or someone, Jim beyhive. As long as he was there, said Chris is gonna have a chance he's gonna steal you again.

Dave Clarke:

Also, San Diego State even the coach said that he was like, we've seen very limited zone play all year, so it's gonna be an interesting matchup. And then I was like, by very limited, do you mean none? It's like, Yeah, no, they have no, they're gonna and even if you do watch Game tape on Syracuse, it's like, it's still not really enough. A lot of the time. You know, it's like that it's so hard to play against that song. Because I mean, what do we always say about the Celtics getting killed? I know, I keep talking about the NBA. But like you, you got to reference it. It's a good point of reference, the South is getting killed against zone is like they're set up like a team that shouldn't get killed against the zone, because they have guys that are athletic and big. And they should be able to get into those zones and like, pull up and shoot. But in college, it's just nobody's as good as shooting you mean as soon as they are the NBA. So when you have an efficient zone, it's just like, oh, shit, like, what are we gonna do? We can't get there. You know,

Rob Kelly:

college basketball, players love to drive into trouble. It's like, their favorite thing to do is to drive into a crowd and call it

Dave Clarke:

I call it running up your own ass.

Rob Kelly:

They love it, man. It's never this past weekend I saw so many times would be like a big point in a game. And a guy would just drive it into the middle of the lane. And there's just three guys and they just take it from and that never worked. What are you doing? Never work right?

Dave Clarke:

Well, it's cuz you're on the vision to dish than to like, it's like they don't have the kind of, it's like, they all put their head down. They've been the fastest guy on their teams their whole lives. They put their head down, they get to the conference tournament, or you know, even after that, and they haven't beat their man because their head was down they go oh shit, and then they like can't make the reads like who's good to pass out of a double team coming out of college? Nobody. I mean, like very very, very few people. So anytime you can just like yeah, that's why this zone works. But it's also it's not that fun to watch. So I kind of hope they lose. Oh, so boring. Yeah, it's terrible.

Rob Kelly:

Another well received liberty. Let's say these 11 through 13 teams in every bracket. I'm like, he's a good team. Every single one of them is a good team liberty is a good basketball team. Another team you guys know I love my guys team led by their guards. They were 15 and one in the last 16 games they beat South Carolina Mississippi State neither who made the tournament but they're at least power five conference teams so they can definitely hang with the big boy so look out for liberty to and our last bracket.

Dave Clarke:

So we'll go to the last back I don't like Liberty because I keep getting that Liberty Mutual jingle stuck in my head every time I look at their name

Unknown:

Liberty Liberty

Dave Clarke:

I'm going to be thinking about that the entire tournament they don't get fucking knocked out right away. So

Rob Kelly:

let's go Oklahoma State here right that's so I do have Oklahoma State coming out of that region. So East we'll get to the text at the end. So So East we got Michigan This is Michigan bracket. Michigan, Florida State to seed is Alabama three seed Texas. There's some good lovers. He's over here to ratio. I mentioned him earlier Georgetown. I think Michigan's in trouble in this bracket. I'm not gonna lie. I think that not having their big guy I can ever think of his name.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Isaiah livers

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, livers and then not having livers is a big deal. He's their senior leader. He's not just like a freshman playmaker. He's not he's they're marketed smart, that also scores their points. So it's like when you lose a guy like that. That's a big deal. Granted that they made it all the way to the title. Game, they won that title game without them. So, you know, they could make me look like an idiot and be like, screw you. We don't need them. But I think it's just gonna be a big deal when you face a team like LSU if they get by St. Bonaventure, and you're playing teams that can just have a guy that can score it well, because that's the guy that can stop the scores, you know?

Dave Clarke:

Sure. I just think i think i think that they just have to figure out their new rotation and I think they just I think there's talent for a deep run for Michigan. I really do I like, I think that guy Wagner's good. Dickinson is good. Mike Smith is good. Like they have guys where if they can just like figure out the right minutes, they could like do a little they could do a little injury recovery run. And, you know, I just I liked the town on that team. Like they probably might pick if if What's his knuckles didn't get hurt. So it's like, I just I still liked him though, you know, and I know that that ceiling has come down a lot because he got injured but you never know what can happen in March. Like we keep saying and it's like, Brandon, John's gonna have like a crazy breakout permit. You know, I mean, God, they have a bunch of guys who could potentially catch fire still. So I still like I honestly I still like to come out of that come out of that region.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, I mean, for me, Alabama is a team to watch and I added a player to the rundown earlier, I will tell Dave a little bit about this guy off the air. Javan quarterly looks like an absolute baller. They've had a nice little run Alabama LSU as regards obviously Collin Sexton, you know, came out of there was a number eight pick a few years ago in 2018. You know, now they have Giovanna Connolly and his brother there. I think they transferred over from Villanova. So you know, Jay, right. What are you doing? You had this have a talent there, you let them go. Like I don't understand. But you know, great. I know things happen and players want to leave. The night games aren't playing at times I get that. But I think they're definitely the team to watch. And this region, obviously the three C's Texas, Matt Coleman, senior guard, I think Matt Coleman is someone who's he's not someone's going to get everybody involved, but he definitely can definitely definitely score the ball. So that's going to be huge. And obviously, you know, they won, you know, the big 12 championship, so that might propel them into a nice little run. But for me, all I say is, you know, hey Mike for me, but for me, as God has got to be Alabama, I think that's the team to watch. You have a shout out to juwan Howard, you know, he's done his thing. You know, he's returned Michigan back to prominence. You know, they haven't been anything. I think, since the 2013. National Championship game. They haven't done anything really since then. You know, we traded mostly trade lamps. And he's I'm Mike and I want him in New England, but it's not the show. Trey Burke shadowbrook was phenomenal that year. So yeah, so I'm excited about this version two, honestly, but I said Javan quarterlies him He is the guy to watch.

Dave Clarke:

It's hard for me to look past BYU in that region as far as like a Cinderella team because Mark Pope the coach has like convinced me that they're going to be a Cinderella team because it's all he keeps saying he just like he's one shining moment. You know what I mean? Like he's just he's pumping positive energy into that team, which I think he's trying to manifest the crazy March Madness around which I don't know I mean, maybe you can do it. You know, I've seen literally we've all seen Luke actual BYU do the exact same thing. So maybe he's like trying to recapture that magic from when we wouldn't even was that I had to be like 2010 2011 that big BYU run when they lost the final? Oh, I

Rayshawn Buchanan:

think it's 2011 with Gemma for 2011

Dave Clarke:

with Jimmer yes so, you know, he jacked up that half court shot and he thought it was gonna go in it was like the last few seconds and that was

Rob Kelly:

that was Hayward those those Hayward

Dave Clarke:

are the same thing and plus my Gordon Hayward memory has been replaced with like a horrific and

Rob Kelly:

they're both they're both such smart basketball players. So they're just like you guys, you

Dave Clarke:

know first in the gym.

Unknown:

Last one now every time

Rob Kelly:

every time we get here all right. Yeah, cuz it's

Dave Clarke:

cuz it's funny, but no, I actually do think that thing Mark Pope is trying to try to manifest a BYU conference. You know and like that. It's weird because like they weren't always in the West Coast Conference. Like all this stuff got weird. And you know, I've seen them I've seen them shut out big big teams I've seen you know, I've seen them do stuff so I don't know this guy's just gonna be convinced this I just like his I like his cheerleader energy I think is going to be able to like ride that course. It could be really embarrassing for him. If he goes all in on this and then they get knocked out in the first round, but I think they're solid team.

Rob Kelly:

I want you guys to tell me if you've heard this story before. A team from New England gets in a little under seated. They have a baller who has the capability to go off for 30 points every single time he takes to court

Dave Clarke:

Are you saying UConn is gonna go all the way?

Rob Kelly:

I'm saying I'm saying that. This is the recipe we've already seen twice. James bouknight is just as good as the score at shabads Napier just as good as the score is kemba Walker. This guy can old way. So if he is healthy, this team is tough to beat what golfer you can't if he's healthy. Also LSU I think they're gonna be Michigan. I really do. I seen them play Alabama, and that SEC championship game. They had them then they they had them. They had

Rayshawn Buchanan:

a defense

Rob Kelly:

there. So that means

Dave Clarke:

that means you think that means you think else you probably go to the Elite Eight

Rob Kelly:

I think LSU has got an elite

Dave Clarke:

they're proud to be Florida State of the plan.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I don't know man I like Linda Hamilton seems man they don't those guys play hard. I don't know. I don't know I don't know if they'd be Florida State

Rob Kelly:

him Thomas though can't Thomas so and you're right they play solid defense man they must be Alabama who are a lot of people's favorites to come out of here. So

Dave Clarke:

now I'm regretting my choices in this

Rob Kelly:

Michigan State at the 11th seed is terrifying because they absolutely can make a run into the final for this team can absolutely do that. And we're

Dave Clarke:

anything Georgetown's coming out of the first round against Colorado.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I do. I do.

Unknown:

Oh my god, god dammit.

Rob Kelly:

I gotta change my whole was in one week, Michigan State beat Illinois, Ohio State and Michigan. And one week, two weeks you still

Rayshawn Buchanan:

talk Tom Izzo, he matters, he?

Rob Kelly:

That's what I mean. Like this team can go in and beat anyone on any night. And if they're playing the best basketball they can, they're going to beat UCLA and then they're going to be Who's that Who's that succeed? They're going to be BYU, you know, anyway, if they're playing and they're not going to be BYU. But yeah, after you just gave that whole spiel,

Dave Clarke:

I really don't think that they are right but again, it's tough because you know, it sucks when you're sitting there waiting to see who you're going to play right up until Thursday or whatever it is that day we're releasing this so it does suck that like you know, you have to sit and wait for a team like BYU you'd love to see some game tape on like whatever team you're gonna play so you could be right you know, I also actually think I had to disagree with you on this but I think UCLA are actually gonna get in but that's just because I kind of like them and I like always wanted to go there but my grades weren't good enough

Rayshawn Buchanan:

you know, what did we need to man like that light blue uniform and I think Yeah, around

Dave Clarke:

me and Ray just like the same college basketball teams because we like baby blue.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Remember the year they beat we can go into classic moments are recorded Kevin

Rob Kelly:

Kevin Love and Westbrook bro

Rayshawn Buchanan:

we're not even before that when Darren Collison when that team beat when a bee Gonzaga I think I'm gonna say it was oh five or six and Darren Collison Ryan Hollins when he was a good player for he sucked in the NBA, but he was really good at UCLA. And they came back and you know, Gus Johnson who's like, he's top five announcers of all time top five, you know, this is March Madness. And I was just like, this is crazy and I was just like, oh my god, I'm talking

Dave Clarke:

about announcers like how about Dicky v. Still?

Rob Kelly:

As ever to he is

Rayshawn Buchanan:

if I get into fender benders gonna be a nail biter. You see

Rob Kelly:

him doing? He was so proud of that. I want to do a dance and he like literally got up on camera.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I will bring up the Geico commercial. I love the Geico commercials and like I watch it all the time. It's like Geico is listen baby. For us all the stuff over there. Like it's great. It's awesome. like to watch. It's like just little deck. Like that's, that's gonna be Bobby like a 40 years like

Rob Kelly:

I will take that my friend 100%. All right, so we're coming up on the end here. So I want to wrap this one up here. I do think to answer your question DK. Georgetown is gonna beat Colorado. I think Colorado is a flawed five seed.

Dave Clarke:

That's crazy. I did not think you guys are gonna say that. And

Rob Kelly:

they already lost the Oregon State and the level that Ewing has his team playing out right now. Man, the level he has his team playing is really good. They worked really good in that Big East tournament the way that they just absolutely man handled. They played great the way they just did they just from moment one, you knew that game was over.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Right. But another thing I want to ask Georgetown too, and and I usually hate going this route. But I do think it's as relevant in this case, because he meant so much to him. If you don't think and I agree he's out on the floor. But if you don't think that Patrick Newman is coaching for john Thompson, right now, like john Thompson was his mentor at you know, he brought him to Georgetown. They won the Big East Conference that day on the same date that john Thompson got hired 49 years ago. If you don't think that Patrick Ewing is looking and saying like, hey, this guy was my mentor. This guy was the reason why I won a national championship here like this guy made me a man, that he is going all out to make sure that those guys are ready and prepared.

Unknown:

That'd be cool.

Dave Clarke:

That'd be exciting because I've now officially switched my pigs since you guys are taught me in it. So

Rayshawn Buchanan:

yeah, so I'm rocking. I'm rocking with Georgetown. I'm hoping they get past at least the su 16 hope they get there.

Dave Clarke:

Plus their class you know it as much as we've talked ourselves into this been a weird year. Sometimes you got to go with the classic madness teams. You know what I mean? The classic March teams like Georgetown are always there. They're always in and around it. You know, you can see Rutgers in the south making making a run for that reason. clemson aren't the Clemson they used to be but like they you know, they good you know, and sometimes I you know what happens to me with Clemson is I always get thrown off because I'm like, oh Clemson and I'm like, that's football. Stop it. So I'm just like, yeah, pick Clemson. They're good at college stuff. It's just like, No, No, they're not. They're all they're good athletes or football players. But anyway, yeah, like, are you just kind of run with for a while? Yeah, right. I know, sometimes you got to just ride with those classic merge teams, you know, on some of your 12 brackets that you make.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, no, I agree. And I only have three at this point. But only two that I'm actually like, serious about, you know, the third ones like the chaos bracket that you just kind of throw together. So I want to wrap it up here by going through and I want to know who you guys got in the Final Four. Who's winning it? And I want to know you're upset special, whether it be a first round pick someone going sweet 16, whatever the case may be. Who is it

Rayshawn Buchanan:

for the west of me, I'm just I'm gonna stick with Gonzaga being Actually no, I'm mine. I'm going to I'm going to go Iowa. I was going to be in the Final Fours. I'm going to go Iowa and the west and the east. I'm going to go with Alabama and the South. I will go with who I'm trying to serve the south, the South, the South is going to be difficult but you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna ride the bandwagon to my own team. I'm gonna go to USC it's a possible it's possible agency a bio state Yeah, we're at USC is us It came and taught us is gonna get there in the south. And then in the Midwest. I'm going to Oklahoma State. I'm gonna say okay, see, but yeah, Oklahoma State that's my father for men. It just far the team is gonna go as upset. I'm growing with George house and make at least those who 16

Dave Clarke:

I have Michigan coming out of East which I know is a little bit of a safety pig. And but you know, the injury will see. I just I do see it. I can see to my soul. I think obviously Gonzaga out of the West. I don't think any of them any of us are not going to have that. I got I hate to do it to you because it did. It made me I struggled with it. But I have Ohio State beat North Carolina and getting in from from the south. And then Midwest. I got Loyola, Chicago going all the way to the Final Four. So let's just see and happen. Let's see. Let's just let's

Rob Kelly:

that's the upset and the Final Four. packrafting the one right, yeah,

Dave Clarke:

exactly. So that is my upset and my final four pig wrapped into one. And then if you're curious, I have them playing. I have them beating Ohio State in the Final Four and I have them losing in the final the Gonzaga. So if you're curious, because you know what, that's like the funnest tournament ever if that happens, so let's do

Rob Kelly:

it. That'd be awesome. I would love every I would love every single second of that.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yes, Oklahoma State winning it. Okay. Cunningham most outstanding player.

Unknown:

That's that's a good pick.

Rob Kelly:

I like that. Okay, so I got Gonzaga out of the West. I got Baylor out of the South again, past tax coward. That's one of the I know, I know. I know. I listened. I just see them having a easy route. You know, no one's gonna be UNC. No, I didn't. I think they're gonna beat UNC. And then I have Winthrop going to the sweet 16. So I think they breezed by Winthrop. And then they're gonna play Texas Tech. So I don't see I don't have Baylor playing anyone lower than a four seed until it gets to the Final Four. So I see them having a really easy route out of the West. I've Alabama hasn't beaten Dallas uniquely. I have LSU going all the way to the lead a I believe in this team. I think they're really going out so early. So we're gonna know, real real quick if my brackets busted, because if you're right, I'm screwed. Was I Oh, no. I'm one of those guys that knows too much about college basketball. So my brackets are always not to like to my heart. But my brackets are always just garbage because I just sit here and like, Oh, I know this stat and then I jabbed him and I

Dave Clarke:

will rise to win so much more. Back in the day when I was just picking based on like, you know, the seedings, like I was like, oh three is higher than four pick. Nowadays. I'm just like, I'm like, I'm looking at his lactic acid tests and shit like that. I'm just like, Oh, yeah, I'm

Rob Kelly:

like, Ray, I'm with you, man, Oklahoma State. I have them coming out of the Midwest. k Cunningham. So I have to say, you know, and then my final four. I have Gonzaga beating Alabama, Baylor beating Oklahoma State Gonzaga Balor. championship, and for the first time since 1976. We will have an undefeated team. Duke is not in the tournament. Kentucky is not in the tournament.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Wait a second. They go undefeated in 2012 when they win the national championship.

Rob Kelly:

No, they lost in the championship. They lost in the championship didn't go into

Rayshawn Buchanan:

that got it. Right. That's right. That's right. That's right.

Rob Kelly:

That's right. Okay. So yes, the first team says Bob Knight and Indiana and 76 first time Duke and Kentucky he's not here. Gonzaga is getting the championship. Mark few gets his championship. And we have one of the best March Madness tournaments in history. It's 121 is going to be great because guess what, we got madness, everyone. This has been the March Madness preview on the real BK Bob Kelly. dk, Dave Clark and Ray Shawn Buchanan. See you guys later