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March 16, 2021

Bill Belichick and The New England Patriots Dominate The Start of NFL Free Agency

Bill Belichick and The New England Patriots Dominate The Start of NFL Free Agency

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On this episode of Missing the Point, we recap Day One of the legal tampering period in the 2021 NFL offseason, as Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots were heavy players, drawing in some of the biggest names in free agency, we'll recap all the moves in Day one of Free Agency, what other moves may come and how the Patriots look now heading into the 2021 NFL Draft and 2021 NFL season.

Hosts: Joe Malkin, Michael Marcangelo, Rayshawn Buchanan
Producer: Craig D'Alessandro

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Transcript
Craig D'Alessandro:

On this episode of missing the point, we recap day one of the legal tampering period in the NFL offseason or bill Bell jack in the New England Patriots were heavy players drawing in some of the biggest names in free agency, or recap all the moves in day one, what other moves may come and how the Patriots look now heading into the 2021 season. This is missing the point, Episode 44. But it's all relative.

Joe Malkin:

Welcome into a special episode of missing the point I'm your host Joe Malkin. I'm joined tonight by Mike Mark Angelo and rayshawn Buchanan and we're gonna call this the tampering special guys. It has been an interesting opening tampering period opening to tampering period here on March the 15th. As we record this coming to a close in the day, but guys, it's been an interesting day and this was a day that our executive producer Craig D'Alessandro said was gonna come on Wednesday, and little did we know that March 15 was gonna come fast and furious, but what a day it was guys.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I mean, this is very unpatriotic, like, typically, they don't pay top dollar for people coming off of the best years of their career, right? Bill hates those kind of moves. And if he does it, he doesn't do it on day one. The exception would be Gilmore, right. But I think he saw what we all saw that this team needed to be reshaped. He had done such a bad job drafting over the last several years. It's not like he can sign his guys these types of agreements because they're not worth it. So I think he addressed a lot of needs today. I love a few of these signings. One of them I'm a little nervous about but if you can't look at today, and don't be excited and know that bill bought in.

Craig D'Alessandro:

They also suck last year, so you can't forget that

Rayshawn Buchanan:

right facts Exactly. My sentiments exactly correct. Like he had to do something. And he did. I mean, I hope that he's not done. Obviously, they still have a lot more to go for. It's really nice. But, you know, it was cool to see an aggressive day one. And, you know, hopefully there's more to come.

Joe Malkin:

So, as Mike alluded to, and so wonderfully introduced us into the topic of our tampering special. The New England Patriots made 6789 signings today, including Detroit wise, who was on the team to begin with. So one resigning, 12345678 signings of free agents. And of course, in the last 2436 hours, he made a trade as well trading away right tackle Marcus cannon looking at the math, we can't be totally sure as we are not even a couple hours removed from the most recent signing the Patriots have made but Craig has done some rough math and who wasn't on Twitter, Greg, that gave you the number for the salary cap that as it currently stands

Craig D'Alessandro:

dekai $15 million.

Joe Malkin:

So Doug kite on Twitter. A great follow up says that I think this was before the Henry Anderson signing was roughly $15 million. So they went into the day with a little over 70 and they're gonna end the day with around 15 million left in salary cap. So as Mike said, it was about time that Bill Belichick went out and grabbed some grabbed some guys and brought him in. And the NFL has seen a lot of big names go off the board today. I mean, obviously, there's still a number of them and we'll go through a few of those. But, guys, let's start with the first signing of the day for the New England Patriots a need that was clear and apparent since Rob gronkowski left to retirement at the time anyway two years ago, and that's at the tight end position. They drafted to tight ends last year, they had Matt Lacoste, they had a few bodies there, but no one that ever really filled into the spot. So today they go out and sign a four year $50 million contract withJonnu Smith, the former Tennessee Titan, what do we think of this one?

Michael Marcangelo:

I love it. I absolutely love this move. I also love the fact that they paid him right. This is a real contract $31.25 million. This is fully guaranteed. So they went out. They set the market for the position for the player that they wanted. I was very, very scared that they were going to go out and try and sign hunter Henry, which honestly, I want nothing to do with him. Six, five to 40. He's gronk in the sense that he's injured a lot but lacks the transformational talent that he has, but Jonnu Smith through me, you love that Joe 41 catches eight touchdowns last year. And I think he's gonna I think he's going to evolve. You know, we were talking before the show started that. No Cam Newton, back in Carolina, had some fast receivers and had a good blocking in great pass catching tight end Greg Olson. So he has here now 25 years old, so this was the biggest need for them offensively I think more so than receiver. This will open the field up for everyone. they've signed. So I mean, I love it.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, it was awesome. I was think I was on my way to the hospital earlier when I've seen it. And I was like, actually, I was sitting in the waiting room. And it was, you know, done. You know, got that on got the alert on my phone. I was like, Oh, the patient assigned somebody and the other guy that's in a wheelchair, let me was like, No way I say yeah, like, I couldn't believe it either. Like, we actually signed somebody, can you believe it, man? So, you know, so we were both excited. It was like, hey, they got that guy from Tennessee. So they shared this or hopefully we're on our way. And boy, were they ever because we thought that might have been their signing up the day. But clearly, they was like, okay, we're going we're going for broke literally and just signing whoever we can to add to the team, but but just on genre smash signing, like, say you six, three, you know, he's 250 he definitely can move around, you know, all over the field. So, you know, there was another 81 that was very good at the time, you know, it was a lot of playing for the Patriots, you know, internet is someone that you could put in the backfield with somebody who could put in different positions on the field. So it looks like they have that. And I like it, like Mike said he can block as well. So, you know, though does not sign you if you can, you can not block not going to be rough and rugged, he is not looking to have you in that position. And you know, we know Bill likes to attack off the middle so it you know, we saw him catch, you know, that jump ball. He's got it. I was watching some of the holidays earlier like even though it is and his catch radius. And that's the big word, you know, his catch radius, like he's going to catch it, and he's coming down with it. So, you know, obviously, you know, Aussie Aussie had a nice showing, you know, the last couple of days I know he had his first starts on just the Jets, you know, and the last game in the season but you know, obviously he wasn't really featured all year and neither of adults again so hopefully they can learn from jonnu and maybe you know, you know Bill some cyber trio there but we know you know Bill likes to have death a certain position so But yeah, I said john Gianna was awesome and I'm glad he's here

Craig D'Alessandro:

are this art are just shows you that belgic finally figure out his drafting has been garbage last couple of years because he drafted to fresh tight ends for basically no money and then spent in spent and broke the bank for one of the best times in the market. It sounds

Joe Malkin:

like you're a little angry that the fact that he had to spend the money this

Michael Marcangelo:

for nothing else exponentially increases their ability to be a red zone threat, right? They were terrible. In the red zone last season. Now they have a guy like rayshawn said they can go up and get the ball. And to Craig's point, they also have two tight ends from last year that if not, if nothing else, they can block right so you can really create that goal line package. And assuming that you have a running back, that's Nam is not Brandon Bolden, you can actually run the ball in the red zone. So I mean, I love I just love everything about this signing. I think it set the tone for the day, right? Because I told you, Bella check was not going to was not going to be afraid to spend the money on the players that he wanted.

Joe Malkin:

And that was part of the conversation that started today, after a couple of the signings remainder we're going to talk about was that tampering period, which is what we're in is as the NFL start of NFL free agency is not until Wednesday, March 17, at 4pm. So once that point comes then these guys will actually be, you know, putting pen to paper and all this stuff. This is all speculative. But at the same time, when this started this afternoon, these guys had already talked and had these deals worked out. Obviously you're not going to necessarily be working on all these the exact same time. So But yeah, I mean, it's a great pickup. It's a guy that they want, uh, he fits in with the system. You know, Ray and I specifically have been singing Johnny's praises all season in 2020 while he was with Tennessee, and you know, I didn't you mentioned his age. Right and I don't want to jump ahead through but every signing that the Patriots have made today with the exception of Henry Anderson are in their 20s Matt Judon is 29 Jonnu Smith 26 Jaylen Mills 27 Kendrick bourne 26 NELSON AGHOLOR 28 Davon Godchaux is 27 Henry Anderson 30. And these are all guys that were either drafted in 2015 and 16, or 17. So this is a younger group of guys that they're bringing into an aging what was in aging roster. And it's just really refreshing to see. And it's exciting to see the Patriots spending this kind of money. And Jonnu Smith, we talk about that contract and Mike is you said real money. It's only 12 and a half average annual value. And you know, a lot of people have been saying on social media, that's too much money for him. Although one guy said 12 and a half million, that's Derrick Henry money. And I was like, hang on a second. That's Derrick Henry money like, two years ago, Derrick Henry is worth like 25. So that I mean, he's not going to get that right. He wouldn't get that if he was a free agent right now just due to the salary cap, but in 2023 24 I mean, that that could be money that Derrick Henry see. So Jonnu Smith is getting paid with a tight end should be paid in the NFL. So the second signing of the day was outside linebacker, Matt Judon on he was in Baltimore. This was the surprise signing of the day to me. I didn't think that Matt Judon was gonna be coming to New England. I love Assigning personally 14 million average annual value four years $56,000,000.32 guaranteed Mike, I know you have a lot to say about Matthew Judon on and I like your comparison.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah. So I like move. And I like it because it addresses a need right bill again, he sees it, they need it, they need a pass rusher, they need someone on the defensive side of the field to cause havoc. When I saw this deal, I instantly had a flashback to 2007 in the dailies. Thomas right. That deal was five for 35 with 20 million guaranteed back in the day, he didn't he only played out through the 2009 season. right he? So for me again, this is i think that i think that junan is a great talent. My worry, and I hope I'm wrong, I could be wrong, is that he's schematically Great. So as long as you keep moving him around on the defensive side of the ball, you don't just put him in once one position every single play. Yeah, he's gonna be good. That's what did with the dailies in 2007. That was his most productive year for the Patriots, and they stopped doing it. So the guy that's 28 years old, 34 and a half sacks you again, if he's there, you go out and you spend the money on them. And they did. So I love it.

Joe Malkin:

That's a great comparison. And I think those two guys are different dudes. And I think jutaan is is going to be I think if he can play the the way he did in that system, I mean, he played in a great defensive system. So his numbers may have been a little inflated based on the system he was in. But that doesn't mean that he isn't a problem on the field. And I mean for other teams. But playing for john Harbaugh down in Baltimore is only going to help him coming up to play in a system like this because Harbaugh doesn't necessarily run as tight of a ship as Bill Belichick, but it's a lot tighter than some of the other ships in the NFL.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Right. But I mean, I get the ad, you know, the ad comparison. You know, I think, you know, I've heard on Sports Radio earlier. You know, they were little I guess they that's why they were had to throw it out. They just thought that that wasn't a good signing. Because Because of that, which to me, I felt like was a lazy take. But he's six 365 to 70. And he's a man out there. And like people who ain't made to take because he came from Baltimore, like, What if he came from San Diego? What are you gonna say? Is he Nick bosa? Are you saying that he's doing and say I like what I did. I feel like that comparison was only made to get to get from Baltimore, when you're that big, you can move like that, you know, we can have a Jamie Collins was saying, you know, Richard Seymour, like, Bill finds these guys that can just wreak havoc. And that's where I feel like he's going to do yeah, I want him to be moved around. Don't send him just to the right side of the left side. Like, if you need him to up the middle, you need him to jump over jump over someone like Jamie Collins used to do when he was here. didn't do that. Whatever is going to make him look as good as possible on the field I'm here for and there's anyone that can get that defensive talent together is Bella check. So I'm not concerned with that and never got right. Did I say I agree with you, Joe, that was a surprise signing for me to like, I didn't think that, you know, today we spend that that money on that player. Especially, I think because he you know, he's again, 30/201 Oh, he's got you got 32 guaranteed. So, you know, I was like, okay, that's, you know, let me know, like, okay, they're looking to pay, you know, top dollar for you know, for someone you know, that's going to be an impact player. So I don't think it's going to be the ad thing. Maybe it'll be more of a freak athlete like Jamie Collins was But either way, I'm excited to see him in patient. I

Michael Marcangelo:

mean, just a backup my lazy take,

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I just close

Rayshawn Buchanan:

enough mics. But I just

Michael Marcangelo:

I just want to point out that if you take out the two years like that a daily Thomas was not an everyday start in Baltimore. So in his five years here, he had 35 sacks in five years, we have again here, that dude on has 34 and a half, they're very comparable, they play the exact same way that they played the position. Rex Ryan's defense in Baltimore, was the exact same schematic defensive, they're running in Baltimore now. So my hope is that the only reason that I didn't work in New England is because Bell which I tried to get into conform, in my opinion. So as long as he does not do that, this time, and lets him do what he does best, he'll be better. But I be I would be lying if I told you that I did not have a little bit of PTSD. When I saw an outside linebacker and pass rusher coming from Baltimore signing a big deal.

Joe Malkin:

Well, Mike just admitted what Ray said right there coming out of Baltimore. So I mean, I think it's no it's a good take. It's a good take, but I'm with Ray on a lot of that of besides the fact that it's a lazy I know we're not going to get into but what what is really rare, I think you just hit the nail on the head because we're gonna go over these other signings for the Patriots here, but the 32 million guaranteed for Judon the 31.25 for Johnny when the first two years of their contracts is basically how this is gonna work out roughly. The AV is 14 and 12 and a half respectively, then that total guarantee goes up to that 32 and 31.25. And from what I understand, these are front loaded contracts and that is so if jutaan ends up being like a debt Thomas after a couple of seasons, they can figure out what they want to do with that contract one way or the other. Jonnu Smith is obviously younger. So he'll probably play out those four years here. What these two signings showed me, is that a lot of what we saw in 2020, where the three of us were getting visibly angry at our televisions on Sunday afternoons and having to listen to Dave and Bobby, tell us Oh, it's okay. You're one of us now. Well, I don't see the bears or the Cowboys spending this kind of money on day one, partly because they don't have it. So point being is bill just showed us he's on a different level. He's on his own level. And 2020 was kind of what we alluded to at times, and I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves. So this is kind of a specula Tory comment, but I think Bill saw what he expected to see in 2020 with the team that was put together that played in front of no fans, and now we have this team coming in and we're gonna next talk about Jalen Mills. The safety from Philadelphia, who signed another four year contracts for $24 million, 6 million average annual value 9 million guaranteed. Guys, this is the same thing. It's a two year contract with two years on the back end. I Jalen Mills won a Super Bowl against us against the Patriots in 2017. So did NELSON AGHOLOR, who we'll talk about soon but Jalen Mills won won a Super Bowl in Philadelphia. And Bill obviously liked him enough to go out and get them. So now you so I want to pose this question for both of you to also analyze because now we have three starting safeties, Jalen Mills, Patrick Chung, and Devin mccourty. So let's talk about Jalen mills and tell me what happens because I think one of those two guys is going to be on the move.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I mean, I think Mills is a is a good player, right? I just had it ingrained in my mind. I think it was it was either two or it was it was Fitzpatrick that just him and devonte. Oh my god, Dante Parker down in Miami just burned him, burned him recently. So that's ingrained in my mind. But you know, at least he turns at least he turned his head patriots defensive back typically don't do that. I think this is a way for you to shore up your secondary. If I was the GM, this tells me that you know, Patrick Chung, it's time it's time to go. I'm not a challenge guy. I've never been a Chung guy. I don't think he brings you anything. And I don't think that your secondary suffered last year without him being there. So if this move is Patrick Chung has gotten out and now we have Jaylen Mills. I'm all for it. Man. I think it's a really good one.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, I mean, it's a shocker that you haven't been high on Tom. But needless to say, Man, I think they showed a graphic earlier where the mills has played a lot of different spotlights play slot. He's playing safeties played corner left corner. So you know, Bill likes to move guys around anyway. So I think that's what he's going to be doing here. So it doesn't necessarily mean someone's on a move. I just think that's like, okay, like, okay, AJ Phillips, we didn't we weren't expecting him to be that good lesson. He was awesome last year. So, you know, you still go ahead and you're stuck. We know we didn't even talk about college. Duggar, right. So you know, they're just gonna I mean, that's been the strength of this team for a long time. And what it may mean is I may not be one of those guys. It might be go more as I move but I need to you know, you move JC Jackson to be the number one which is why it happened. So I mean, I think you know, like, I like to move haven't seen him talk to him lately, but I do know that he moves all over the field. So hopefully, you know, he's able to be productive here. But he has to have to be the guy who's just a guy here. So we'll see how it goes.

Joe Malkin:

That's a good point, too. Defensively, you brought up you know right now it's strong safety. They have they been the four letter network have Patrick Chung has started with Adrian Phillips then Kyle Duggar behind them pad free safety Devin mccourty, a jajuan. Williams, Justin Bethel who we know that Bethel is a special teams guy. But so right there. It mean you're absolutely right. And I think we've talked about for a while that Gilmore would be on the move. And if you did move Gilmore, and you didn't bring in another defensive back, as we said Mills can move all over the place. We know mccourty has played there before. But then you have JC Jackson, Jason mccourty Jonathan Jones, so you're Yeah, sure you lose a lot if you trade Gilmore, but Gilmore gives you a lot of cap room and I'm not sure what Gilmore's relationship is with Bill because there's been a lot of rumors of him being on the move since before the 2020 season and then as the trade deadline came in during the season and of course with one year left on the contract, that's generally where bill tries to move along from them so

Rayshawn Buchanan:

he was floundering in Buffalo let's call it was not floundering, but yeah, just a career or maybe less than average around Buffalo Bill saw enough to think Okay, I get it I can get him here. So what their relationship has has soured and not be grateful. Yeah, but

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you know,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

you saw you signed for Psalm 65 mil on day one, you know, he puts you in position to make that play against them. I forget that it was in Jacksonville but I guess Jacksonville I forget the who was a hold of ours. If it was by mix that play, you get to pick in the Super Bowl. So you become the champion, you become the player of the year. And you got $65 million. He's okay.

Joe Malkin:

He's sure. But there's but we know, we know that's not how it goes on professional sports, right? I mean, you know, that's not how it's gonna be like, you can still build though. Sure, but you can you can be put in those position. I mean, honestly, you can be putting those positions in any line of work in the world, right, you can be put in a position to succeed. And then when you hear rumors of you being moved on from that's gonna hurt no matter how good or bad you've been treated, how much money you've made, that can stink, no, it is part of the business. And Gilmore may know that and maybe you're right, maybe he is grateful that it is time for them to move on and one year left on the contract and if he doesn't come down, that would be a lot of money to free up in order to go out and get a couple other guys and still have good value at the position and that's what Bill is going to look for. So Jalen Mills coming in definitely going to help that secondary now two guys that were brought in to help shore up the offense a little bit maybe not even sure up but at least healthy offense. Our wide receivers Kendrick Kendrick born who was last with San Francisco and wide receiver NELSON AGHOLOR laughs with Las Vegas. Guys, let's talk about Aguilar first because I think this was the more intriguing signing of the two Nelson Agholor 28 years old size for two years $22 million. I think he's over paid here at 11 million AAV but at the same time, Ray you said it earlier in our group chat that he had a resurgent season in Vegas this past year he had a career high in yards and a Titans career high in touchdowns with Derek Carr as his quarterback and in an offense that had Darren Waller and Josh Jacobs and a pretty good offense in Vegas. For a team that probably should have been better than they were. What do we think of Nelson Agholor? I mean it the last thing I really remember abag law was when he was in Philadelphia last year, and fans were calling him out for the fact that he didn't have very good hands. And then he goes on to Vegas and has a pretty good season. What do we think of this one?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, well, no. So I thought that was I mean, I get it because I think he had back to back 65 seasons. And then like the following year, what it was getting on him but Philly fans do better than than most fan bases. He dropped down to 39. So yeah, it made sense that they was you know, they would there was on its head above that. But you know, it's hard to catch 3040 passes 50 out of 60 catches on passes in the NFL. So clearly, you know, the challenge is still there. Because like I said, you know, he gets there to Vegas. And you know, you know, he took the top off the defense and we have not had that assists Brandon cooks, you know, and you know, I mean, Phil Yeah, you could say Flo Jo separador says not what cooks was on his doorstep. Yeah. And actually shout out to him for getting signed down in Jacksonville to congratulate him on that. But to me, I liked the signing. I thought it was two years at 26 No, not not 20

Joe Malkin:

it is 26 now,

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Joe Malkin:

number is on it's 13 ab

Rayshawn Buchanan:

gotcha. Yeah, so yeah, so it's just like now I think far is I don't know like you know, they use that term bro money. I don't know how much real money is evolvus I don't know if it's a fully guaranteed thing or is it like you know, like 11 to 12 guaranteed yesterday so there's no way he gave him 26 guaranteed here? No way. Yeah, no way. So that half of that it might be really just a one year deal honestly. So but that's the case then it should be even more than 15 million and we have far as Kashmir's left, but I noticed what the guy had mentioned to Craig but you know, yeah, I like to signing I think that he's going to be someone that's going to be you know, very good here. And once again, a person that we brought in here patriots fans hear me good was going to be better than we had last year and the year before and maybe even a year before that even we want to throw a ball like just enjoy this one. But see, right?

Joe Malkin:

That's that's where it goes with fans. But that's where with fans, oh, boy, we get caught into it too. But I'm going to call out the fans a little bit because we look at the free agent wide receivers and it's like yeah, bring in Juju. It's like, but those guys are going to command more money. You just signed Kendrick born and Nelson Agholor for 26 and 22 and a half. Were juniors gonna come in probably both of those salaries minus maybe a third. So so he's gonna be around like 30 he's gonna come in 35 to 40 mil for the life of the contract, which you already spent on juden and Smith, which to me are bigger needs than one wide receiver. So Ray, I agree with you, but a lot of the fans myself included when I saw the I mean, we talked about it in our Discord. When Aguilar was signed. It was kind of Alright, it's a little it's a little anticlimactic, but The more I sat and thought about it, right, it's a great signing like it's a really it's a good value signing, because you might be right about that one year deal where it's like, because they play with money. We always hear more details in a baseball contract than we do in an NFL contract, except for when Tom Brady signs a four year extension with Tampa where it's void after the first year but they save money because he's basically just Bobby Binney and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and to paint him until he was 48 years old. great investment for a time anyway. But when you look at a guy like Aguilar, I really liked what he did last year in that offense. And if you can put enough weapons and what was the weapon in Vegas that allowed Aguilar to get free to catch passes a guy like Jonnu Smith down

Rayshawn Buchanan:

well,

Michael Marcangelo:

so I think if we're looking at if we're looking at the regular assigning, right, a couple of things that are really good and one thing that's potentially scary, he had obviously eight touchdowns, 896 yards, but I think what's the most important stat there is that he averaged almost 19 yards per reception. That's really good. That's what you need. The scary part is he was targeted at two times only caught 48 of them. It's one of his his worst catches catch percentages since being in the league. It's not I mean, so. But I do think with him there if for no other reason, right? You have him you have Kendrick born they now have alleviated the problem that's been building over the last two years. Edelman's not your number one he can't be. He can't be the guy that you go to 130 times a year anymore. He's not he's just he's 3435 years old. Now you have people out there that will require coverage. Right? This won't be the joke of an offense that it was last year shouldn't be just based on paper. I think Aguilar is the guy that can take the top off of the defense, and in Needham, and so two years 26 mil do it. Again. I don't think this is a real contract. I don't think I don't think there's a lot of real money here. I'd be I would be shocked if there was more than $13 million guaranteed. Yeah, I

Joe Malkin:

would say it's probably the first year in the contract. It's probably 11 is what I'm thinking 11 or 12 which is fine for agler right. I mean, he spent one year in Vegas and you know, he got close to being on a pretty good team that Vegas team should have been much better and Dave would tell us why they weren't better than they were but I'm not going to go down that road because I don't agree with him on that. So

Rayshawn Buchanan:

it was crazy. He saw Corey Davis signed when New York three years 37 and a half and I'm just like that that couldn't back that couldn't have been here because that me You gave the most money I take Corey Davis over agloe even though I like the Aguilar signing out so Corey Davis if you were told me Give me Corey Davis and Jonnu Smith. I would have been like cool we got it let you know we're good, but I might man 12 and 1212 and a half mil 12 point 2 million that kinda got there. You can do this on that man. I mean maybe maybe build a thing he could play but I'm just like I was kind of disappointed say that do that was already

Joe Malkin:

David says in a bill kind of guy though. Oh, Aguilar is Aguilar speedy. Where Corey Davis is a power receiver. I mean, he's uh, he's like you were talking about when with Jonnu Smith you throw the ball up some it's gonna go get it wherever Corey Davis is the wide receiver version of Jonnu Smith. And that's why I thought they did so well together in Tennessee, because of that style that worked with Ryan tannehill. I don't disagree with you. I like Corey Davis more than Nelson Agholor two and was 1.2 million per year Really? What broke the bank? Maybe it was for Bill. But I mean more power to Corey Davis. Because I mean, I guess I guess there's a similar issue in New England, but we'll get to that. I mean, Sam darnold is your quarterback Carlene? Yes. I know Mike Justin fields is going to go to New York, we get it. But if they're smart, they gotta go get him. Well, yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

We'll see. We'll get there when the show comes.

Joe Malkin:

Well, yeah, we'll get there on the draft preview comm coming to a podcast place near you. So as Mike said about Nelson Agholor, he'll take the top off the defense. There's another wide receiver that the page in sight that a 26 year old Kendrick born more of a slot receiver out of San Francisco or played last year with San Francisco undrafted, wide receiver from 2017 signs with the Patriots three years 22 and a half 7.5 average annual value, Mike I also like this signing because they need you just mentioned Julian Edelman. Well, Kendrick born is kind of a he might not be as tough because I don't know too many guys are as tough as Julian Edelman. But Kendrick born coming in is to me another really positive signing for this team.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, and I mean, if you look back when Edelman first got here, right? He we didn't know that he was as tough as he is. Now. He had a few his first couple years that he was kind of played with injury. It was always kind of a wonder if he could replace Welker and he did. I think Kendrick born his age 26 years old man 49 catches over 670 hours last year and two touchdowns. That if you can get that, that that production out of him in the slot. Again, what this offense is telling me in the way They're building in is that they want to have the ability to take the top off of the defense, but not rely on it. Right? They want to go to pick you apart with those over the middles, you know, 1015 year completions or even in the flat rates for smaller. And then two guys with like Jonnu Smith, and Nelson Agholor, they can go over the middle and get whatever ball you throw up at him. So they're building this really smart, especially for who they have thrown the ball.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, right, exactly. I mean, you, to me, I mean, I still like the attack of metal, right. And that's what you know, that's what that likes to do. So a specialty like a lot of the hallways I watched earlier, you know, you know, there was a guy, you know, now where's number 10. That was hitting him every time in the numbers. So we know that guy that could become into a pocket new to these

Joe Malkin:

parody accounts. They'll throw me for a loop man, the amount of heart attacks I have, when I scroll through our Twitter at underscore missing the point and I scroll through these and I see these damn parody accounts. They're putting this stuff out there. And they're making it and they're making it look like it's reposted from another account. It's like you got to be freaking and then, but they make it something. So to give some context to those listening, there was a parody account that I'm not going to name because I'm not going to give them credit for something that's silly. They, they they made it look like the NFL had put out a story that the Patriots traded for Jimmy Garoppolo and traded a first round pick for him. First of all, you're not trading a first round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo. Mostly because Bill Belichick is never going to trade back for something. Trade more for something he's getting back then when he gave away in the first place or when he got in the first place. So that's just not going to happen. But yeah, no, I, to your point, right. You're absolutely right. I mean, we saw Jimmy g throwing to to this guy out in in the Bay Area and know that this is he's a weapon. I mean, he's a weapon. He's been out he was out there with debo Samuel George kittel. I mean, I look at the offenses that these two guys came from Aguilar and born. And they're building that style of offense here right now in front of our eyes. That I don't mean to get too excited about it. I don't want to get I don't want to get overly

Michael Marcangelo:

get excited that the doubters aren't here. Get excited do

Joe Malkin:

No, no, because they see the problem is I don't want to get Bobby excited because when Bobby gets excited, it's just it's sometimes it goes over the top, Bobby, you don't need an intervention or anything, you know that you get too excited. So when you're listening to this, just know that we love you. But you get to and I don't want to yet because I look at the names. And I see the numbers and I see what they've done. And this is it's interesting to me because these are bill style players that are being put in and I'm specifically talking about so we can talk about jutaan and Mills right. And then and one more guy I want to roll into this is divine gotcha. The defensive tackle that they just signed from Miami for $16 million for two years. I think this guy is underrated. Like he is a pluck of the middle. And these three guys fit the style of defense that bill tries to run. But these offensive guys, Jonnu Smith, Kendrick Bourne Nelson Agholor, guys, what they're really bringing these guys in for is to build an offense in a style that a guy like Cam Newton can run. I mean, this is what they're doing. So this is what brings us to this question of I really like this because this is a style of offense, as Mike said earlier we talked about before the show was that this is a style of offense, that they're looking at signing these three offensive weapons that Cam Newton ran in Carolina. And here's my question for Mike, Mike, specifically, what do these weapons mean, in terms of Cam Newton as quarterback in the New England Patriots,

Michael Marcangelo:

so I think that this that these acquisitions and these additions to the offense mean that you're going to start seeing a similar type of system that you saw back when he was really successful in Carolina. Now, I'm not saying that he is the, you know, the former MVP that he used to be. But again, I think we need to kind of grade cam and what we saw last year, on a curve like for what it was a couple of things, and you get ready to a couple of things. Remember, he did not have a full offseason. He did not have any preseason. And we know when we look back and we talked about the season that he had, it's everyone thought well, he can't throw. There's not that many yards. He's a mnemic. I did a little math. And for those of you listening at home, I promise you that this math was done with my benefit in mind. So that's already out there. number one. Number two, if you remove Julian Edelman from 2019, Tom Brady threw for 2900 yards and accounted for 18 touchdowns. Cam Newton did not have Julian Edelman last year and is throwing to you know all those people they just throwing to camp through for 2600 yards and accounted for 18 touchdowns. So what I'm telling you is it wasn't as bad as it looked. It was actually for a guy coming into a new system with an injury. It was pretty good considering the circumstance answers. And now all you've done is surrounded him with players that fit his narrative fit his playing ability. And I think you're gonna see a resurgent cameo Now I'm not saying that over 5000 yards, man, but if he throws 430 530 518 touchdowns he throws for he still runs for eight, and he drops back on the fumbles. Now we're talking 1011 wins.

Joe Malkin:

I don't know if you expected what kind of response you expected, but I actually really don't disagree. I don't because I've when I watched them sign these three guys this afternoon. I thought the same thing this is going to be Carolina north. I still have written off Josh McDaniels. But maybe there is something to this. The fact that they didn't have a full offseason, there was no preseason things that they're going to get back this year, they're going to get the mini camps back, they're going to get some type of otaa back in the offseason, in the summer cam will be nine months removed from COVID. So hopefully he's back to normal. We know, especially in terms of some guys that have had heart issues in the past Eduardo Rodriguez of the Boston Red Sox, he had heart issues after he had COVID that kind of flared things up again for him, which is scary in its own right. But hopefully, you know, we're past that with this team with his quarterback. And we saw what he could do, especially when he was playing against Seattle. And Mike, I think when you mentioned Julian Edelman, I really don't know how much of a part of this offense, if at all, Julian Edelman is going to be in 2021. Do I hope he can come do I hope he can come back healthy to and help out? Absolutely. I mean, this team has weapons and Julian Edelman is still you know, he is a leader on that offense. I think he's kind of the second fiddle since he was when Tom was here. And I think he's still is in a lot of ways. But I really, I agree with you more than I thought I was going to on that I thought you had something a little more controversial to throw at us. But I'd like to take

Michael Marcangelo:

if you'd like me to make a little bit more controversial for Ray, I'm telling you that the disparity between the greatest quarterback of all time and Cam Newton was 300 yards. The disparity

Joe Malkin:

between the greatest quarterbacks hang on? Yeah, it's a joke. But yeah, the greatest quarterback of all time and Cam Newton The difference was 34 year old Julian Edelman.

Michael Marcangelo:

Sure, but he was targeted. He was targeted 253 times the report cut 1100 caught for 1100 yards and six touchdowns. Mike, this is what

Joe Malkin:

I this is what I have to throw you on this though. So this is now where I'm going to I'm going to find the negative side is that and this is where ray is. I think his mindset is, and I think he's just trying to pull it together. But Cam Newton, what were his numbers in 2020? Because they weren't so I understand what you're saying

Rayshawn Buchanan:

was your 40 Well, hang

Joe Malkin:

on. That's

Rayshawn Buchanan:

the whole season. Not Not Not for a quarter. The whole season.

Joe Malkin:

So he played in 15 games, he only missed one game due to COVID. He went seven and eight as the starter. The Patriots dropped from what 12. And what were they in 2012 and four, they dropped five five wins, right? Yeah, finally dropped from 12 and four to seven and nine. Cam Newton had eight touchdowns and 10 interceptions he had what four or three of those touchdowns

Rayshawn Buchanan:

was in the last game right.

Joe Malkin:

It three of those touchdowns in the last game of the season, which is promising. Right. So eight eight rushing touchdowns. 10 inch, sorry, eight passing touchdowns. 10 interceptions, how many rushing touchdowns.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Do you have? 1212 Yeah,

Joe Malkin:

well shoot two off of his career highs since he was a rookie. So I re I agree. It's kind of heinous. When you make that comparison, and that's Mike's job. He's trying to get you angry, so get angry, but he's not but he's not. But he's not completely wrong. Because if you take his average numbers in his career, he averaged 20. Let's call it 21 touchdowns a season 20 to 21, touchdown passing touchdowns and season but with that, we'll call it 12 interceptions. So 20 and 12. So he was close to numbers.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

20 passing touchdowns, not 20 No,

Joe Malkin:

no, no, no, that's what I'm talking about. 2020 passing touchdowns, and then rushing touchdowns we'll call it eight on average, roughly because he's had 14 865 10 564 and 12. So account for 28 touchdowns and 12 interceptions.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I have a question for both of you. All three. All three. What did your eyes tell you last year

Michael Marcangelo:

that the Cam Newton wasn't the guy that he was in 2015. And you had him throwing to? Nobody? So you're so

Rayshawn Buchanan:

cool, great answer. So what is your eyes tell you when he was throwing three yard outs into the ground or throwing that he's that he's injured or that he's injured that he couldn't play Now granted, I wanted him to be successful Could I was a fan how I got the jersey in my closet walk over and get it. I can't walk over get it right. Now what I'm a walker

Joe Malkin:

right? Can I throw it? Can I throw something in in this interlude here? Can I want to throw something at you? Because you mentioned you mentioned him being injured and we've had this conversation in other sports with other players. Again, now this is me trying to now this is me talking people into Cam Newton this year, because unless they go out and trade for some someone, Jimmy Garoppolo fine, but Garoppolo still gonna command $22 million, probably for the season. Right now they only have 15 to spend roughly like give or take. Right? So to me, I understand that what they're they're talking about is Cam Newton is getting paid 6 million, with a million and incentives on top of that, so could go up to 14 mil. And the report is that the Patriots are still open to other quarterbacks. To me that means in the draft. So right now to me until I'm proven until I'm proven wrong, or it's proven otherwise. Cam Newton is the starting quarterback in the New England Patriots. Can we all agree on that?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, sure. But

Joe Malkin:

so Wait, wait, wait, hang on finishing that thought in 2019. He was injured, right? He got injured in the second game of the season for Carolina, and then he comes into New England, clearly still injured, with no time to get into the offense with no time for Josh McDaniels who I'm not defending, but it's the truth, with no time for Josh McDaniels to work with them. So they're working on it on the fly. And they kind of know what they're getting Danny gets COVID then he's out for a game and then everything kind of falls off because he wasn't 100%. Because how many games in the middle of the season Ray, did you and I go back and forth and say, Man, he just doesn't look right. He just doesn't look right. like something's wrong. But then of course, we got into the throwing, but here we were for a couple of years saying the Tom Brady couldn't throw either. And all of a sudden he comes out this year, and he's dropping dimes to Scottie Miller in the NFC Championship game with eight seconds left in the second quarter. So here's my comparison with Cam Newton. Three years ago, a guy by the name of Gordon Hayward broke his ankle two minutes into his career with the Boston Celtics. Two years later, he's now in care in Carolina playing for the Hornets and is absolutely killing it. Because he's healthy right. I rest my case.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

So also so you the Nick cams gonna be with our auto mic. So you think that can be what Hayward is doing down in Charlotte? I mean,

Joe Malkin:

I don't think Cam Newton is the NFL MVP an offensive player of the year that he was in 2015 like Mike just said, but I do

Rayshawn Buchanan:

like what he was awesome. That's right. I got you but you better I feel. I mean, listen, I want both you to be right, but I'm saving my eyes when I saw once again if you're talking about the Seattle game, right the Seattle game was his best game of the year right? That's before it's pre COVID Sure. He's gonna just don't make it all over Adam is looking great. The Office overall is looking great awesome. And then maybe his best throw the year probably came against Houston with that bomb meter dimir bird and we saw more of that day I'm sold but it didn't happen enough for me it's just like once again I want that to happen because honestly with someone that could run the ball game 12 rushing touchdowns listen TV child as good as he is because he was to be that's not happening and we talked about that on the show a times like there's things that he's done that he did last season that they would not have done with Tom Brady Be sure

Joe Malkin:

right you also said it earlier when talking about who Cam Newton was throwing to in 2020 but with all due respect to the to those men as human beings he was throwing to trash in 2020 he was he was right to

Rayshawn Buchanan:

say that but yeah,

Joe Malkin:

it's true so but to do Jonnu Smith Let me ask it this way do Jonnu Smith, Nelson Agholor and Kendrick Bourne move the needle for you in terms of Cam Newton in any way shape or form does that move your needle at all?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I'm praying like health I it does a little bit it does a little bit I'm just saying like I just I need to see a few games whether it's like in the preseason otas like I need to see him actually doing a five hour route with with precision or throwing a square meter throwing throwing a digger I don't want to don't want to seem like I need to see that because honestly, if he can reinvent what he had with Olson, him adjustments are gonna be very special because him and Olson always connected that pass the heat through to Olson in Seattle a few years back when they hit when he hit the game when that that would that is if that's what happens. Then maybe I'm sold. I'm here I am. I am all for it. I just need to see it. Right now. I can't give that right now. I have to see it. That's all

Michael Marcangelo:

I think we were so used to seeing or to having a guy here for the better part of two decades that could throw somebody open that last year we took four I mean, we took number one we took that for granted but then we have to realize that we have this guy coming into a new system. And he couldn't his receivers couldn't even

Joe Malkin:

get open. Okay. He's also not that guy.

Michael Marcangelo:

He's not sure he's not that guy. And, you know, I think if you go back and you watch a lot of the film, I still to my core believe that he has a hard time reading blitzes.

Joe Malkin:

Oh, he doesn't read a defense so he relies on his athleticism over reading a defense

Michael Marcangelo:

but go back and watch go back and look at all the double pumps because the guy that he was supposed to throw to was not there he was not open. So I think now if for if for no other reason, you have three potential people on the offensive side of the ball that will get open and alleviate depression gentlemen Edelman and will allow him maybe, you know, he's not gonna get 100 catches, but if we get Julian Edelman with like, 75 catches 600 yards and five TVs, I think we're gonna be fine. So I think we were so accustomed to seeing perfection for so long that he that what we saw last year was bad. I think the greatness before it magnified, how bad it was last year. And then we just need to take into consideration the cast of characters that he was throwing to because you're not going to see a lot of throws like you did to bird because bird was only open twice a game.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Right? Right. So that guy should have been your original take not to take off the three yards that should have been you know, my,

Michael Marcangelo:

my take was that if you don't live in, I can repeat it for you. Because the math adds up.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

What you just said was perfect. Right there.

Joe Malkin:

So guys, so So today, so we talked about we talked about the additions for the Patriots and what they're gonna mean for Cam Newton, I think we're all kind of in agreement. It's not going to be as bad as it was. It shouldn't be on paper. It shouldn't be but right but favorite champions right so so but two things we do have to talk about is the the trading away of Marcus cannon to the Houston Texans for late round picks and the signing of Joe tuni by the Kansas City Chiefs today. Those are two very good offensive linemen Marcus cannon Of course opted out last year because concerns with him being in remission from cancer. Joe toony is a two time Super Bowl winner, a guy that a lot of people didn't give a lot of credit early on in his career ended up being a great offensive lineman for the Patriots can play guard can play center decides a five year $80 million contract with the Kansas City Chiefs. That is a guy that capitalize and is now immediately on a contender. What is the loss of these two guys? And does that mean that especially with the training of Marcus cannon, and of course the Patriots brought in Trent brown from Vegas last week. Does that mean with all of this? What do you guys think of Tony signing with Kansas City with a cannon being traded to Houston? And of course, Isaiah when does that keep him now on the New England Patriots as the starting left tackle and he moved Trent brown to right tackle.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I mean, I think too, and he was at that's a huge loss for you. Right, but it's a calculated one. Yeah, they they I bet they want to keep him but when you have a team like Kansas City whose it was gonna be a perennial Super Bowl contender and they have the ability to often the contract that they do. I mean, you go do it, but the Patriots have the opportunity now to show you know how versatile that their offensive line can be. I think if Trent brown plays the way that he played in 2018 and steps up just a little bit more I think you have it I think you have a chance with between him and when to be good. And I think again, if you don't require cam to sit back there for six seconds or you know like I'm exaggerating like four or five seconds like he was last year. I think his ability to get rid of the ball quicker will make the offensive line look

Unknown:

better. Absolutely. Yeah, I

Rayshawn Buchanan:

agree. Yeah, no, yeah, for sure. But obviously could i think you know, Shaq may still evolve and there's so yeah, so no, this is probably going to be your right guard and then you know you got a when you you have you know so this line was a strength last year I mean they were fit they're rushing so I'm going to decline overall still has a strength and even with you know as missing part of the best offensive line coach ever notice our neck yeah shout out to my friend who always who always points that out but yeah, like I mean listen five years at mill 32 and a half guaranteed and you get Kansas City barbecue it's a no brainer

Joe Malkin:

right now you're blindside left tackle Isaiah when Michael on when you left guard David Andrews at center Shaq Mason right guard Trent brown right tackle so

Rayshawn Buchanan:

why exactly but you had you have to sign Angeles you have to like that is Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so yeah, thank you Craig for that but yeah, so I yeah, he he has to you have to sign them so whatever you want. That's the last piece you had to put together for the line then do so I know. They just thought woman from the from the Jets, but that's cool. But David Andrews that has been the guy you know yet he had to sit out a couple years ago. He was cutting a blood class but, you know, you know he was undrafted. You know, he came here you know, he's been a part of the worship team. She's held it down. You know, so to me, you have to reward that in my opinion. And as far as the Marcus cannon thing, honestly at that I think they they got to get there was I look, you know you're from Texas. You know, you can be close to the family, other stuff that's going on with you. You know, you know, if you were a great teammate and great player while you were here, you know, let's just send you home and, you know, best of luck to the rest of your career. And I think I saw that one I don't think was anything whereas

Joe Malkin:

draft picks.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, but yeah, yeah, exactly. But I mean, that's, you know, you know, as I heard earlier, you know, that's basically what you know, Caserio and, you know, they'll love you know, as they add draft picks and switch draft picks and all this draft capital in the world, you know, for middle pays. That was like you were trading, like you gave us a third pick, go to second pick, whatever it was 96 then 143. We acted like we, you know, we landed Tom Brady, or, you know, we got out the shop blocks back in the day, like, all right, well, y'all can

Joe Malkin:

what concerns me with David Andrews is that when Joe Tony sign today with Kansas City, David Andrews retweeted to eyeball emojis. So I think I don't know if that means David Andrews is looking and wants to go somewhere else.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

When $80 million. Oh, hell no. I bought one for one. Whatever. Yeah, getting getting that he might get 10 million, maybe, maybe not an app here, you know? 80. So

Joe Malkin:

I'm still pretty good. I mean, if Bill's not going to give that to him, I go somewhere else too, but Nagi Turan was the guy that is being shown to slot into that position. If David Andrews does sign elsewhere, he'll be the second year offensive lineman for the Patriots. So yeah, I agree with it. I think and I think Mike said it best when he said that they need to go out and bring back James White. Obviously they still need to, they still need to improve at the running back position. I think we all know that Damien Harris is okay. Sony Michel. I think

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I'm a fan. And I really

Michael Marcangelo:

like David.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Nice. To go Sony Sony Michelle Yeoh asked me to go immediately. I'm done. I'm over.

Joe Malkin:

So bring back James Wait, so then you have DMS? I still feel like there's there's a lot of good running backs that are free agents currently. So I think that there is a possibility that

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I can get your site name a

Joe Malkin:

few name of Marcus.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

is Tommy get excited? Not not upset. But yeah, he was he's been good here though. He's doing good.

Joe Malkin:

No, so I'm of I'm a big fan of Rex burkhead as well because he has the ability to be good, but at the same time, we need something that's a little more Yeah. So right now here are your top free agent running backs Kenyan Drake, Todd Gurley, Duke Johnson, Tevin Coleman, James White, Matt Brito, Mike Davis, Rex burkhead, Brian Hill, Leonard fournette, Taiwan Jones, Malcolm brown and TJ yeldon. That's as far as I'm gonna go. Okay, so who can catch out of them can Kenyan Drake right yeah. Tevin Coleman James White Mike Davis can all catch out of the backfield I would assume that cam might like a guy like Mike Davis I don't know

Michael Marcangelo:

what feels like a really patriot move to me for running back if no right

Rayshawn Buchanan:

facts Yes,

Michael Marcangelo:

yes but so right shuffle Yeah. But also

Rayshawn Buchanan:

one day or someone to $50,000 deal smart really comes as a witness. I really

Michael Marcangelo:

like Fred Taylor all over again. But I Philip Lindsay, I think for some reason I can see I can really see them going after him and i know i don't think don't do it in a train. Well, he so he received a low tender the lower receiver for us in general for the Broncos. Right? So I mean, maybe you know if you want to if you want to get rid of Gilmore, you get a draft pick from the Broncos, you give away one of your picks and you take him I he just feels like a Patric enemy. I don't know why. But I'm done with Rex Burkett. First of all, the

Joe Malkin:

Rexburg cat is listed fourth on the depth chart right now. Like I like that tank of going to get Philip Lindsay less than I like your take about Kim. A lot less. I don't think it's plausible.

Michael Marcangelo:

There are people out there that say well, what if you know David mentioned in our chat earlier today, like what if you go up and get the number 19 from the Broncos, what would it take? You have to trade your pick? Probably Gilmore, probably something else. Maybe you get Lindsay back in in a deal with him was that I would do? what I'm telling you is I think he's the most patriot like out there for me, but I wouldn't hate seeing Leonard fournette in a patriot uniform. But based on what I

Rayshawn Buchanan:

say Same here, same here. Same here that

Joe Malkin:

I like Mike Davis, big fan of Mike Davis. So I think we've effectively gone through the signings and the prospects for the New England Patriots over the next few days. His free agency begins to put just looking at a couple of things from around the NFL that have happened while we've been on the show, and throughout the day here. A big one for the Denver Broncos, they declined a $10 million option on Kareem Jackson, the strong safety jameis Winston just made $11 million as he signs a one year $12 million contract with New Orleans Of course Drew Brees retiring the other day and taysom Hill restructuring the contract. So it sounds like this team That team is taysom Hills and jamis. Winston's Carl Lawson defensive and science with the Jets for three years 45 million. Bud Dupree, a guy that I wanted to see come to New England signs a contract with Tennessee. Let's see Joe toony of course the five year $80 million contract rayshawn mentioned Corey Davis signing with the Jets three years for 37 and a half million we as we go down here, Rob gronkowski signed a one year $8 million base that can go to $10 million. Carlos Hyde not the biggest name anymore, but he signs with Jacksonville and sodas. Philip doorset former New England Patriots Ronald Darby signed a three year $30 million contract with the Denver Broncos. I mean Yana can Gok way, I know that we were all pretty high on gotway. Yet two years 26 million to go to Las Vegas Daniel Carlson signs a contract with the Raiders as well. I still think this team needs a kicker I know Nick foles had a good year last year but I think it's time to go get something D Ford signs with the Jets. I'm sorry with the San Francisco 49 or so called blind two years $24 million restructured with San Francisco so he's resigned out there and Shaq Barrett signs with Tampa Bay

Michael Marcangelo:

What about Aaron Jones dude that's a big site let's that's a great contract four years 48 mil and it's what is it

Rayshawn Buchanan:

he's someone I would like to come here had we lost or you know if we were to lose James James White but obviously that's not gonna happen because he already signed anything baby but obviously you know James way of playing up there and being from there but yeah, I would love Aaron Jones here got 2017 draft classes I said we can have another show about different Java classes but at 2017 classes loaded from this phenomenal so yeah, that was huge. That was huge.

Joe Malkin:

Yeah, a lot of names already have bounced around but like we said there's a lot of names still out there

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Samuel we need you We love you.

Joe Malkin:

Yeah, Curtis ml clean as you say he signed earlier.

Craig D'Alessandro:

I don't think

Michael Marcangelo:

I don't think so. But we would need to we would need to offload Gilmore to be able to sign him right.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

That's fine. And this is okay. He's already one of us. But it's cool.

Michael Marcangelo:

See you later. You have to sell me on I'm just asking for

Rayshawn Buchanan:

a catchphrase Mike love you mean it. Let a big dog see Mike's

Joe Malkin:

Mike's cat tres is for me episode me. So guys, I feel really good about day one of tampering period. So this tampering special brought to you by missing the point we went through all the guys that the Patriots have brought in on March 15 of 2021. free agency officially starts on the 17th Wednesday at 4pm. So I don't know if we're gonna see it coming as fast and furious as we have seen it today. Though there are still some big name quarterbacks out there. Mitchell trubisky Jacoby perset Alex Smith, Ryan Fitzpatrick, so who knows what we could see come to New England or around the league.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yet one final thing before we go. I need Joe, I need you to do the Matthew Slater thing for me.

Joe Malkin:

You know, Matthew Slater is my wife's favorite patriot to say he is great. He might be more of a rocket scientist than Matt Patricia. Definitely. And Matt. Patricia is actually a rocket scientist. How do we feel about day one of the tempering period before NFL free agency?

Unknown:

Oh,

Joe Malkin:

yeah. Over modulated there. So guys, thank you very much for coming in tonight. Mike Mark Angelo rayshawn Buchanan, of course, always in the booth behind the glass, Craig D'Alessandro. We appreciate you coming in and listening. My name is Joe Malkin. This is missing the point and we'll see you next time.