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Sept. 29, 2021

Cowboy's Resurgence, Tom Brady's Return To Foxboro, Justin Fields' Terrible Debut For the Bears, Red Sox Collapse

Cowboy's Resurgence, Tom Brady's Return To Foxboro, Justin Fields' Terrible Debut For the Bears, Red Sox Collapse

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On this episode of MTP, we react to the Cowboy's great start with a win over the Philadelphia Eagles (2:04), Justin Fields' terrible debut for the Chicago Bears (18:24), The MTP Week 4 Power Rankings (34:49) Tom Brady, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers return to Foxboro to take on Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots(45:44), and we'll touch on the Boston Red Sox sputtering playoff chances. (1:04:46)

Hosts: Michael Marcangelo, Bob Kelly
Producer: Craig D'Alessandro

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Transcript
Craig D'Alessandro:

Today on MTP we recap the Dallas Cowboys win over the Philadelphia Eagles from this past Monday, we'll discuss Justin fields debut for the bears. We'll talk Tom Brady's return to Foxborough visit the Patriots on Sunday football, and we'll even check in on those Boston Red Sox in their spectacular late season collapse. This is missing the point, Episode 89. And yes, we did change our logo.

Michael Marcangelo:

Welcome to missing the point. I'm Mike joined here by the real BK Bob Kelly Craig is always behind the booth. And today we are talking week three NFL recap. We're talking about Tom Brady's homecoming. We're also talking maybe a little bit about the Boston Red Sox in their utter utter collapse over the weekend. But I think I owe it to the person sitting across from the camera with me to first talk about the Dallas Cowboys. The Dallas Cowboys monumental victory last night 41 when he won over the Philadelphia Eagles Eagles we I think we talked about Bobby to not like a not a great team. But a division when is a division win so before we get into it oh also between all of that we're going to be crazy to give us his his power rankings which I'm sure will cause a controversy. Why don't you tell me a little bit more about what you thought about that game last night? Monday Night Football 4121 over the Eagles

Rob Kelly:

you know so with that saying we good teams Oh is like so I've been trying to stop myself from telling myself this team is good. For the last two weeks. I know I put him in my top 10 I know we talk a big game. But anyone who texted me I'm like, Wait, are are we actually good? like is this team actually a good football team? Because that's something that Yeah, I take it to my hands off doing when it comes to cowboys nation. But to show up against the team and your division like this, like coming into this game. I was like, Okay, if we blow them out after being the Chargers last week, we might actually be a legit team. And we came in and we blew the goddamn doors off the Eagles man from moment one, the only hiccup the entire game was really that Dak fumble in the end zone. Other than that man that was just complete, not a domination by the Cowboys. So the turnaround from the defense Dak Prescott, listen, we'll get that Dak Prescott. Showing that he came back Honestly, I feel more in control than you did beginning of last year. Having Zeke having powered as his tandem. The wide receivers we have man Cedric Roseland stepped in, we even noticed gallop was gone. This angle over to the defense and it's like, I can't believe I'm saying this. But I love our defensive shame. And it's not that we stopped teams, it's not that we don't give up yards, we give up first downs. But when it comes down to it, I can always predict it man where it's like when you need that turnover, whether it be in the red zone, whether it be a pick six, like we saw last night with Diggs, this defense seems to have turned into a ballparking defense. And in my mind is Dan Quayle. That's why but this was one of the best football games. Honestly. Not that's one of my favorite and fun is football games. I've watched in the last five to 10 years, just because of how dominant and how good they actually looked.

Michael Marcangelo:

Are we able to just put this the, your, the way that you're talking about this defense into perspective, right. So I think, because they were probably one of the worst defenses in the history of the National Football League a year ago, the improvement that you that we're seeing, yeah, it's, it makes it look like they're, I'm gonna say right now, I you know, I love you, Bobby, that they're better than they are because what they're not as they're not a top 10 defense. by any stretch of the imagination. They're still allowing, you know, 20 points a game, they're still allowing 400 yards a game, they're still allowing 331 passing yards again. And I think, yeah, they are but they are opera two, I think that's the thing, right? They, they are a team, that it it's kind of I don't want to, you know, relate everything back to New England. But it's very billable check in in the sense that they are bend, but not break t Yeah. Right. And when the opportunity strikes, fair there and also like Micah Parsons, this

Rob Kelly:

He's unbelievable and the fact with Mike so the reason I do have more confidence not only in this hair with this defense, but moving forward than I have in so long is because of the backbones that defines now are Travon Diggs and Micah Parsons band those two guys are absolutely studs. As we all know him Stefan's brother, those two dudes, those two dudes are just absolute studs. out there you maxed out with Dan Quinn man and I think this defense is only going to get better from here I get what you're saying about not being a top 10 defense I do because I don't think they are but the way I look at it is the Cowboys have so the Cowboys had the best offense in the league last year right or two years ago statistically worse defensively they went eight Nick, which is normal if the Cowboys that season had a defense even remotely close to this defense that could have forced those turnovers that could have you know, cuz you know, turnovers can turn a game so fast man in the past game you saw in this cowboys game a pitch six man is it can be ballgame sometimes. And to have finally have that ability is something that you know, I can't even describe it, because I'm just not even used to like, I don't even know what to do with this. But yeah, so I'm just pumped, man, I'm so

Michael Marcangelo:

yeah, I think we were talking about it last year, and even the year before, you know, if that often just had, you know, maybe not the 32nd ranked defense, but how about the 20th like year 11 512 and 14 now you get the you know, when it comes to just overall you're the 13th ranked defense, which if that's the case, and dad plays that way. It's going to it's going to be tough for them to not go 12 and five, right?

Rob Kelly:

Especially in the division. Alright, so what last night proved to me is the Cowboys are above and beyond because the best in the NFC East. reason I say that because coming into this week, right? You have the you have the undecided. I was pulled the Monday Night Football announcer from last night. Obviously you have the football team. You have the giants, and you have the Eagles, the Eagles were kind of like the sleeper team coming in this week Cooper like all maybe they're the team that can challenge the Cowboys in the NFC. Mm hmm. None of those teams are coming close to the boys unless the Redskins can turn into defense. So Ken Coleman that what the football team can turn into what is this Chris nealon all over again, to turn into that team that we saw last year. That's the only chance they have other than that cowboys run away with this division if they keep up with what they kept up with last night because that was just I'm still speechless man. I was expecting it but I wasn't because

Michael Marcangelo:

it's just weird to me that you're speechless. Now I gather that some of these are from their garbage yards, right? But I never would have thought that you'd be speechless when you read an opposing quarterback stat line of 25 of 39 for 326. two touchdowns. Two picks, one, pick six, but like that's not that pick six was egregious. However, Jalen hertz, who is not known for his passing ability, through all over you, but somehow, you still won by 20. Somehow,

Rob Kelly:

a lot of that it was garbage on me. Coming out of that first half man that could have been 35 to seven or should have been 35 to seven. With Dak Prescott scoring that touchdown. That game was over from the second quarter. I honestly think as soon as Travon picks that ball off, he saw the defense slack off a little bit. Yes, saw them fall back into coverage. And that's why you see those numbers. I'm really not worried about it. I can't believe him saying this, but I'm really not worried about this defense right now. The only thing that scares me about this team is the goddamn special teams man. They're gonna cost us two two games, maybe they already have they've already cost you one, right? It already cost this one and imagine Oh, my God, man, can you imagine if zuerlein hits that fuel, and we ended up beating the box over three at all, after beating the Buccaneers chargers and then smoking the

Michael Marcangelo:

Eagles bro, literally all he had to do was just hit one of the three that he missed.

Rob Kelly:

It's unbelievable. That's why and for us to beat the Chargers to like I know I'm like getting excited and like talking to myself because like, I haven't had a team like this that beats a quarterback like Justin, that beats a team with the upside of the charges, and then comes back to the next week and again that they should win. And they actually do it. That's the thing that stands out to me. He's like coming into this week. reason I think this team is actually legit. And I think that we are going somewhere this year. Who knows where that is? Maybe so first route accident, no playoffs. I'll take

Michael Marcangelo:

it you won't absolutely not take that you say that right now. But I know you will be you'll be insufferable if they go 12 and five and somehow they lose in the first round. But that does bring me to a question. Now we as a cowboys family, you know way more about them than I do. How much of their success now. We've already attributed their defensive success to today and when you say the Dak looks so much better. How much of that is now that he's had a full offseason to work in Mike McCarthy's offense.

Rob Kelly:

Sound like because I can tell you that. I know what you're saying. But I think it's I love maybe Mike McCarthy is having a bigger influence on Kellen Moore but the play calling that Kellen Moore is rolling out This season is so different than past years. He's actually getting into that next round of that NFL. I don't know how to say Play, play calling style, I guess whatever, where there's lots of pre snap motion. There's lots of misdirection. There's things that that the Cowboys have been missing for the past three, four years underneath Jason Garrett. So it's just to see us turning the corner like this is probably the most upside I've seen the Cowboys have in since that 33 deck here, right? Without a doubt.

Michael Marcangelo:

So 2016? Yeah. I mean, again, we've talked about this the other day, you've had a pretty good run of cowboys. Success recently, I mean, honestly, you had 12, and four, and what 2014 with Romo, he gets hurt the next year to go four and 12 in the year after the Dak Dak comes here, and he's 13. And three, offense really has not been an issue in Dallas for 10 years. So we've defense, always defense, not to get negative just a question. How confident are you that they can hold the thing keep playing like this, that they can continue to be the opportunity fans even say,

Rob Kelly:

Hello to sex, if I was being real about a sense was that I've seen this before. Like, that's why I'm like really trying not to get too excited. It's why I'm like really trying to stop myself and being like, wow, we're really good. Why I'm here two, three years ago, two years ago, we started out 600 or five now and then ended up 10. Six. So you know, like, yes, we made the playoffs. We lost the Rams. It's just it's not what I'm looking for. So I'm really stopping myself from getting too excited trying to stop myself from getting too excited.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, based on what you've seen doesn't 10 and seven still get you have the division? And I mean, the NSC? is I mean, unless like you said, Let's chase young and the football team set it on fire over the next you know, 10 games, or unless Philly does figure it out offensively, but I don't think that they have the horses to match you defensively. It feels like Titan seven was is good enough for that division.

Rob Kelly:

I want us at home is my thing. So yes, we'll get that first round that first round home game, and we want to division, but I want that second round home game, because last night shows me that jack loves playing in Dallas. He loves that state and he wants those fans. If you get this man this year on his mission that he's on in this in this headspace that he's on in front of his home crowd in the playoffs. I would have really hard time betting against the gobblers. So as much as I would love Titan seven to win the division. I want more I need this seems to be 12 and five. Still, shall we say to me 12 and 513 and four somewhere around there. And that's where I would feel satisfied and feel confident guarding the playoffs. 10 seven, yes, it'll get us there. It's not going to do the trick man. It's not going to do the trick.

Michael Marcangelo:

How good to Dak look 21 of 26 two I mean the odds aren't there like 238 that's fine but three touchdowns on and I think the most important thing you've already talked about right? I think a lot because this is a perfect segue for us to move to to our next topic he's never looked more in control and more confident but calling the place ever

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, and you don't you don't show that confidence so much to me were like his swag that he's got going on right now. Is that end of the game? It seems silly but that up and down that that oh one day that he told them to do I don't know if you guys saw where he did they did like the old school as they're going to kneel the ball. They go like up down and they went in the old barn is like bro that's that's like that Red Sox stuff they were doing in the dugout this year where they were the rolling around on cards and stuff. Like that's the swag that you need to make runs and it I just feel like with Dak with that headspace, he's making those decisions, having the confidence of his team and exuding that to the rest of the team to where they're doing stuff like that bro. I can't say it right now Don't make me say this though. I think it's a special year in Dallas man and I know it's only week three and but like it just it feels so good Dan and I note one Dak injury away from just being over completely. But I honestly like I was saying earlier I haven't seen cowboys show up like that. And when the game like they're supposed to, and convincing, emphatic fashion, especially against rival five years, at least five years, right? Since pretty much that's the best game I've seen in a play since that Steelers game and not 13 in three seasons, that that's the most fun I've had watching a game since then. So that's just where I feel like the headspace of this team is so I do think there's big things ahead of for the capitalist solution. Surprise, surprise, had taken the center. It all

Michael Marcangelo:

failed. You're typically like this is a very special year for the boys like pre week one and then by week three are already looking to next year. So this this is different and honestly like you can't you just can't ignore what they what they've done. I gave you a lot of shit for it, but they hung in there with the symbol champions. They then beat someone that we all think is probably the next up and coming quarterback in the league and Justin Herbert. And then they did like you said they do what they're supposed to do, and they beat a subpar team handily.

Rob Kelly:

And the herber thing stands out to me a lot to have in this defense because he is one of the better quarterbacks in the league. And they turned him over twice in the redzone twice and that's a that's a big thing to do against a good quarterback man. Like if you will go up against all pro quarterbacks. Granted, he gets he's got a day a charge? Yes. Oh, when he messes up, and you capitalize on those mistakes, and that's a sign of good defense. And it's like it's just, I can't even say that about cowboys is just so mind blowing to me that like I actually have a defense that bollocking that's opportunistic, and forces turnovers, and it's still it's crazy, because every year we're at the bottom of the league and turnovers. I haven't seen a game with multiple interceptions since before this year. And Barry Jones was here for four years, four years. He had three interceptions. shirvan Diggs has played three games. He has three interceptions. It's a different it's different.

Michael Marcangelo:

While we're on the topic before we move off, which now knowing what you know and see what you've seen. Would you still would you still rather that they would have gotten certainty? No, no, I guess the right person he is the perfect fit for that defense.

Rob Kelly:

He's Rookie of the Year right now right when you say defensive Rookie of the Year just without a doubt. And the fact that he has like you said he perfect that defense because like we were talking about earlier, he's this guy that you can put anywhere from anywhere. He can cover anyone who teaches edge rush, he can defend the rush he just literally is an all round player. So the Cowboys got one guy and they got three different positions out of work, was it I completely forgot Randy Gregory was out until the third quarter man like that's how good he was playing last night that like when the announcers were like ready now grant ready Gregor? Yeah, Marcus was announced for like two markers. Ward's is out and I was like, Oh shit. markers words is out. It was just it's it's amazing man. I'm so happy that the Broncos win. Maybe it was good to say good Bridgewater was good. But the Broncos fucked up and didn't take fields or didn't take one of those quarterbacks in when they're 10 because I'm so happy my cousins Alice, man, he's so good.

Michael Marcangelo:

We just got through talking about how great Dak looks how in command he looks. Can we talk about Justin fields, and that absolute abomination? Sorry, DK that was a football game and a performance. The Bears? You know, score you always tell me that the scores and everything. look past stats. Sure. The Bears lose by 22. Cleveland Browns 26 to six. Justin fields was six of 2468 yards and was sacked nine times for 67 meaning that he had a passing yard in the game. Now I still want him here. I would still rather have Justin fields over over Mac Jones. See now every day of the week twice on Sunday. How bad of a play caller or a game planner Do you have to be to design the game that you did for him? Why does that Matt Nagy design a game where he's he drops adjusting fields back like he's a pocket passer he isn't yet

Rob Kelly:

bro he wasn't he was an empty back shock I went back and watched on the game he was an empty back shock on for almost half an hour again. Where he wasn't That's absurd. That is crazy. This isn't Miami all right this isn't Ohio State this isn't these offenses that you can just sit back here but what we're just going to spread out and he's kept it you know, way this wordsmith it's It was so bad. So bad listen with fields. We both even though well what did you do a field is there you run pistol and you run rpos all goddamn game.

Michael Marcangelo:

You at least to make it look like you know that he can do something other than stand in the pocket and throw because we all know that he's a great athlete, probably one of the best at the quarterback position that we've seen in a long time yet. You line him up like he Drew Brees or Phillip rivers just empty form or use an empty formation shortcut and and they can't stop anybody. Literally anybody they're gonna get them killed.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, that was really bad man. I'm with Mr or watsky over there where I think that's a fireable offense. I think I if I was DK, bro I would have been at. I was this is a Soldier Field stuff, isn't it? I would have been at Soldier Field. Just protest. Get it out of there man because I compared naggy to Garrett before He's worse. He's worse than Garrett.

Michael Marcangelo:

The Bears again, it's uh, they're wanting to so far. It's tough. I do think that they have the future with on their team currently. However, what we just saw last week, they're putting their future jeopardy. I mean, you can't leave them out there like that.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, man, it it really reminded me of a lot of David carrier, you know what I mean? That's what that looked like, where you had a quarterback who did have upside and promise and you're right, that's gonna kill it. This is what it is all year, especially first scramble, the quarterback likes this, he his confidence is going to be gone. And because if he's not out there making plays, he's not doing his thing like fields can do. We've seen it with scrambling quarterbacks before with guys who do have that loose cannon, who like to force the ball and make those big plays. When they start to get in their head, they start to turn the ball over a lot. And that that's what I see coming field if if they don't figure something out, whether it be to sit in field, and write it out with falls and Dalton, which is what I would do. But if I was the bears as a GM bad Blake, listen, I'm forcing you to do this. If not, you're fired. Yeah, but at the end of season, you're firing anyways.

Michael Marcangelo:

Well, the whole the whole logic behind it, though, right, is that what we've heard from the beginning of the season is you want to you want to work behind Dalton, about the way that he should play quarterback, right? You want to make sure that he's not a run first guide to protect yourself and your investment. All you just proved to him was that you're going to line him up to be killed. You're literally you're going to send them back there and you're just going to get hit within three seconds, because nobody could get opened. And by the time that they did, their Cleveland already had what, three or four defenders on them, and not for nothing. But Cleveland's defense. Not great, but they looked great when you have miles Garrett and jadeveon Clowney on the same line. You have to do something to distract the defense and let them know that you're not always going to be throwing it. And Matt naggy, what he showed me was that he's not ready. He does not a game plan for a destructive defensive line.

Rob Kelly:

That's that's where he really so this brings me back to my Garret correlation because you just connected back for me. So the reason I always compare them Gary was because he was in effectiveness, to adapt, to change on the fly to do things that when the defense throws things at you, you actually adjust and change your offense. Like when they're bridging you. You put extra guys in the box, or maybe throw a few hot routes every once in a while maybe a couple of dump offs. No, this dude was still throw it out five wide, still thrown deep post patterns. It's like bro, hey, I if I was decaying would have thrown my TV out the window because I was dead watching that game, right? I had it on one of the screens because I knew we were going to be talking about it this week. And it was so hard to watch. It was so hard to watch and because listen, Cleveland didn't play that great. Now he really didn't they if the brown of the bears had any semblance of offense, that game is much closer, maybe the bears won. Brown for that good. And again,

Michael Marcangelo:

like literally if you just like do what you say and just how about us put a running back back there with him just to maybe hold one of the defenseman back do you not? I mean, the one bright spot that I will say it's obviously it's not on the bear side. It was good to see Odell Beckham back. I think that I also think that they used him correctly, right? If they weren't, yeah, he got nine targets, but five catches for 77 yards. Like that's if that's what his outputs gonna be. That team just has another layer of, of effectiveness on them because now what you don't want to see is you don't want to see Odell Beckham Jr. Getting 13 targets. That means you're going to lose. Yeah, because you're cuz you're not throwing to the open guy. You're just throwing it to Odell, but when you see that, the targets it's Odell it's, you know, hotel at nine, Kareem hunt seven and then everyone else to three.

Rob Kelly:

Kareem hunt is a beast bro. He's awesome. When he gets rolling and he gets some momentum behind you can't stop some possible some possibly so good. Then you throw in new cha up to like That that tandem 32

Michael Marcangelo:

rushes for 165 yards as what Nick Chubb and Kareem hunt combined for that is absolutely ridiculous. What was 10 481 and a touchdown averaged eight yards a carry dude. Like that is if that's the type of ball that you play I know that you said that clay within play that that that great. I mean if you're throwing for 250 you're running for 215 and your defense is getting to the quarterback, it's gonna be hard. It's going to be hard to beat a team like that.

Rob Kelly:

Joining here some funny stats for the bears. Sure do. Okay, so so the bears had 47 total yards as we already said, One passing yard 46 rushing yards, they ran 40 how many plays are so they ran 49 plays right? You know, that equals out two yards per play. One now 1.1 yard per play. That is one of the worst ratios I've ever seen. They had six first downs. Do you know what that means? That means the bears gave up more sacks than they had first downs on Sunday. They were one for 11 on third down. One for 11 the bears

Michael Marcangelo:

had five more first downs and Justin fields had met had met passing yards.

Rob Kelly:

Five, not like five times more. Oh, no, five, five. Just five. It was so bad man. I just I really did feel bad because like I was telling you guys I love watching rookie quarterbacks but I love the upside that surrounds and renewed energy in the building. There's something different about it. It wasn't anything different about that.

Michael Marcangelo:

So Oh, yeah, after this game, does Justin fields lose any stock in your eye like to just hit stock diminish? Or is this just a byproduct of the fact that he might have been privy to the worst? The worst offensive game planning in the history of the National Football League?

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, you can't hurt the stock at all for this man. When you went 13 six, and you're running a sweep drop plays to the right. It's a strong side defensive. I don't think that's Justin fields fault, bro. So it was so bad. It was abysmal. It wasn't a shame. It was a so what I'm trying to

Michael Marcangelo:

figure out it was an abomination of footballs.

Rob Kelly:

Thank you. Thank you. That's exactly what I was going for.

Michael Marcangelo:

Next thing we want to talk about is actually your idea. So I'll just kind of let you run with it. I think you know, we all saw Justin Tucker's field goal. We all saw the fact that what was it fourth in 20. On or for the 19 on the team on there only 25 yard line and the Ravens. All the lions had to do all they had to do was allow 18 yards. That's it just allow 18 yards and you win the game. But of course they didn't. Which led you to thinking about what Bobby?

Rob Kelly:

So we're we're we're trying to think of the worst lions losses and NFL history because one thing that stood out about that entire loss in May So first of all, best best cake I've ever seen. That's one of the best news I've ever seen to a football game. Third, as soon as that ball left his foot, you knew it had to distance and you're just watching it and watching it and all sudden for you to see that thing shoot straight up into the air was one of the coolest things I've ever seen the camera angle on it, which is great. But what really, really solidified how amazing this was to me was watching the lions fans react to yet another just worst loss imaginable. All right, that camera angle from inside the stadium is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my entire life. wasn't as serious his foot touches the ball. You can hear a wise man behind the guy with the phone got the fucking Marriott soon as it touches his foot, and you just as it's halfway through the air, and you hear the entire stadium, he wrote and when that thing goes through, I have never seen I'm stronger look of acceptance and dismay on a group of people in my entire life. There's a lady in the first route that she turns around, and she just like has this look of like I can eat already like juices. She couldn't believe it and then the dude behind her. You could tell he seated right started dying laughing his deep blue line jersey. I started dying laughing. You've know what that laugh is right? Those are tears that have been calmed down by just years of memorable losses and now come out

Michael Marcangelo:

as last year. Yeah, I mean, we've all been there as Red Sox fans, right? We all know it. We all know what that feels like. Well, I would it looks like I just You know, before we move to the most lion losses of all time there are most lion like losses I think a couple of things that are happening from this game. One thing that is that was true before that is still true now. Lamar Jackson is not great. I will repeat that. He is not great 60 to 31 282 87 one touchdown one Peck. He's not great. However. Fourth and 19 man, are you I mean the fact that they let that happen is a disgrace to professional football.

Rob Kelly:

He had 72 years to throw that goddamn football I couldn't believe it it for the 19 you're gonna rush three and just let him sit back Have you ever there was that it was at least seven seconds he was back right at least and like

Michael Marcangelo:

his throw was like you said it wasn't under pressure he didn't put a lot of pop on it it was literally just a flick of the wrist and somehow he if you drop eight people back you would think that as if an offense can only send five somewhat has to be on everybody know quite a bit just wide open what was the minute I saw that I was like I really can't believe that they're going to lose this game because that was it you knew it it was that you knew it was over that and then that kick was absolutely beautiful and the way that it hit the crossbar and then the way that it just popped straight up like a big fuck you to every Detroit Lions

Rob Kelly:

fan out there who's just flipping them all out

Michael Marcangelo:

but you know what? They were probably all thinking you know what maybe we're still gonna you may have something to squeak out here because you know we deserve to win and then the NFL Gods like no, no you don't you're still Detroit you are still Detroit doesn't matter you can't there's not enough lipstick that you put on that pig you still suck my favorite

Rob Kelly:

part of the whole thing dude was why you were talking about it in the chat and all of a sudden that for doubt happens and you said oh lions please don't lions This is the most relatable tax have ever seen because as soon as I saw it I was like oh there Why is this is happening man this is happening

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean unbelievable character now I do I do love that it's long as he'll go NFL history and it's not in Denver right so that's gonna be a hard hard mark to beat because yeah to dome, but I mean it's not easy to kick a 66 yarder in Denver, but it's easier to kick in 63 shutter never that it is in Detroit one would think so Justin Tucker balls absolute brass balls on that kick. And he it's your right he kicked it and he do like you know the guy from the replacements the kicker like the minute he can do a video he kicked he kind of started doing a little hip thing like he knew he knew was going so I hate the Ravens fundamentally hate them. But I think that they you know, I'm happy they won because there's if there's anything that I like more than a ravens loss, it's a lions loss whether they lost that game.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, it was amazing. So that's gonna add that so but actually before we get into that, the Ravens Bro, I agree with you on that. I have to say I 100% agree with you on the Raven. I think that chiefs went was a little more of, you know, when you get to the end of season you look back on like those weird wings. relayer can't believe they beat that team. Yeah, I think we're gonna look back and see and see that Rangers game is like, wow, they beat them. Because you're right for them to struggle with the lines like that. After the 49 years. And granted, the lions came back. But the 40 Niners pretty much mop the floor with them. And week, one quarters. Yeah. And the lines didn't look much better last week. And then all of a sudden, supposedly, after your biggest win. In your career in franchise history, you come out and you need the longest fuel goal in history to beat the Detroit Lions. You can't do that as one of the town's really ready to bounce to it goes back to exactly what we said about the Cowboys. When you play bad teams and you're good team. You take care of business and you know, that's a good team versus a bad team. Yeah, that's not

Michael Marcangelo:

what happened. Now, the part of the portion of the program that's undoubtedly going to piss me off the most It is time for this week's edition of the real BK is power rankings. go head to head Bobby. Week Three. So

Rob Kelly:

this week was one of the hardest reset I've ever had the DVDs just because of how crazy and a week of football it was how many teams we saw that we thought were really good lose how many teams that we didn't think were that good when couple teams are still three and all that we're not expecting to be. So these great things are a little Different than they were last week to say the least. And I did because there is those couple three no teams when we list the 10 on the actual Power Rangers, but I did go to 14 just because I felt like I had to I had the I had the least that's the world now, where I have these other three

Michael Marcangelo:

teams. So that means that you have three three teams that are not in the top 10 Ah, no,

Rob Kelly:

I have two to three teams and not in top 10. Great. So 14 is the Broncos. Listen, they look good, but they beat the jets and the Giants to get the three you know, so I'm really hesitant to say that they're a good football team. Listen, Teddy's playing great. All right. But you beat the jets and the giants, alright, you're not going about 14 sorry. 13. This is only because their best players up, they would have been higher, because I had some higher until I was reminded that seems to us out for a few weeks. So Panthers at 30.

Michael Marcangelo:

So just just so that I'm clear here, your power rankings don't just take into what's happened to this point. But what could happen moving forward? Because you use remove Carolina for something that happened that has not affected them yet.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, it's the power rankings. The power rankings are the power of the NFL. You know what I mean? It's the power of how you feel on the field right now.

Michael Marcangelo:

I'm already pissed. And Murphy. I'm 30.

Rob Kelly:

So 1240. Guys, I don't believe in this team. I'm sorry, I don't anything with Jimmy g as their quarterback, to me isn't a top 10 team you have I'm sorry,

Michael Marcangelo:

except for when he starts all the games over the top. But he listened. He

Rob Kelly:

did not look like a top tier NFL quarterback. And we three and some of the decisions he makes just don't seem like he's that next that that level of quarterbacks that can take you to the next level will get you there. But guess what, when it comes down to it, he's gonna miss that deep bond down the middle. And you're not gonna win the Superbowl because that's something that actually happened. So that partner with the running back injuries in San Francisco right now, they don't have a running back room. They literally don't have one. So it's really tough for me to push them harder than

Michael Marcangelo:

1211. I did.

Rob Kelly:

At 11. We have the Kansas City Chiefs. Oh my we have the Kansas City Chiefs

Michael Marcangelo:

or as someone on this podcast once called in the Kansas City Chiefs

Rob Kelly:

that happened on here. That's a true story. I had to do it man. I was going through this all and and the teams that are in the top 10 just deserve to be there more, whether it be their record, whether it be how they've worked so far. Listen, is Kansas City. Do I think cancer is better than the 11th? best team? Yeah, absolutely. Are there 10 teams that have worked better? Getting better? And to me just seeing better at football right now? Yes, absolutely.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yes, I would say that three of them are actually ranked ranked lower than them on your power rankings.

Rob Kelly:

Exactly. For one or two teams in me with with all these three teams and teams that look better. I couldn't get it. I couldn't do it. I know I have to below I know. I know. I know. Listen, the Panthers, the Broncos. We're going to expose the Panthers this next week. Door 10 I have what I like to describe as a night of cocaine in Las Vegas, the Arizona Cardinals I've never seen a team that's so Jacqueline Hyde my entire life is like throw entire Arizona Cardinals football game. Great things happen. Good things happen. It really really bad things happen to them. But when you get to the end of the night, you're like, Well, you know, it was pretty goddamn fun. At least we came out on top. So that's why the Cardinals today are 10 nine. I have the Ravens. I know we just said about one larg. But listen, they did beat the chiefs. And they did win against the lions so I can take the team. I believe I had them at for last week. I can't take a team out of the top 10 after winning a game I know it was ugly, but I just can't do it. Especially after beating the Chiefs last week. Catch it.

Michael Marcangelo:

I think I think the Chiefs loss to the Ravens one of the Ravens beat the Chiefs but go ahead

Rob Kelly:

agree agree but so eight Los Angeles chargers I think this team is legit. Justin Herbert is legit. They beat the chiefs. You know wholeheartedly on Sunday, they beat them good. And they stopped mahomes on a fourth quarter drive to win the game which is something that pretty much not many people in the NFL have been able to do so far. We have the charges that eight number seven couldn't put them any higher than this. The Dallas Cowboys

Michael Marcangelo:

oh thank Jesus I thought I really thought I was gonna see a world with it. I was retaught five.

Rob Kelly:

No, no, I wasn't doing I would I couldn't put them any harder than this. I have the Cowboys the seven. I do absolutely believe in this team. I think that's very evident here. Just the way they've worked. They absolutely look like one of the best 10 teams in the NFL. I started week one, watching everyone. I was like, Listen, this team is better than most of these teams. So cowboys. Number six. Listen, I know week one was really bad at Rogers back man. Green Bay Packers number six. He was so good on Sunday night. 37 seconds left for him to drive down, get them in the fuel range and win that game. Impressive man. Gotta give it to him on that text. Making that first appearance since the preseason top 10 rankings power rankings the Buffalo Bills, alright, they showed me a lot. After these past two weeks. I doubted them after the week one against the Steelers, which is going to be another one of those outlier games because man the Steelers are bad. I don't know how they'd be the best. But then the next two week came back out and demolish the dolphins one by a billion yesterday. So we had to build the five four team that has stayed Pat at this number four ranking this entire time. Cleveland Browns day man handled the bears only loss so far this season is to the Kansas City Chiefs granted yes she said was two in a row since then. But two and one and I still think they're one of the better teams in the NFL. I love their defense. I love that backfield and I enjoyed Baker Mayfield so keep doing that for I see judge number three number three. Like I know you'll like this one. Number three. We have the Los Angeles Raiders. Raiders they're here guys. I think they're legit. I love this team and DK DK is gonna you're gonna be pleading hearing this. I think grin Gruden is doing a great job this year. I really do.

Craig D'Alessandro:

Did you call them the Los Angeles Raiders today I

Rob Kelly:

can't deny the Las Vegas Raiders. So I do think Gruden is doing a really good job this year. And car looks like he might be one of the top six seven quarterbacks in the league right now.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean basically for passing yards he's the best quarterback in the league right

Rob Kelly:

now. So they got Raiders a threat number two I had the moving down one because they just got smoked by a team at number one the Tampa Bay Buccaneers I didn't see it coming I definitely didn't I knew the Rams were good but I definitely did not see the man handling that they put on the box coming box it too I'm surprised that they're not I thought there was gonna be a 17 or no here for Brady I thought he was going to get to that next level you know Oh, the next next level. So next next level, right and number one, it's no brainer man. LA Rams they are wagging right now. Matthew Stafford and McVeigh are a match made in heaven. They look like they love playing football together. The only thing that scares me about that is your former running back Sony Michel being are starting running back right now Mr. world as I like to call him Mr. 3.2 himself. So nationalising what scares me is that backfield and get healthy. I don't see a lot of teams being able to stop them with that defense. That offense. They're going to be tough to be

Michael Marcangelo:

Eric Donald and Jalen Ramsey, man. I mean, Jalen Ramsey is on believable the show the way that he just roams around the defensive backfield, and is where ever they need him to be whenever they need to be there they can be and they look to be a force to be reckoned with. I also think that, you know, this whole narrative that Matt Stafford never had any offensive talent. That's bullshit. Remember, he did have Calvin Johnson did have golden Tate, he did have Marvin Jones. He all I mean, the list really just goes on. But I think this is the best system he's ever been a part of. I think McVeigh knows how to coach him. I mean, I don't think that the Rams are gonna go 17. And oh, but you know, 13 and four, that's that's in play.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah. Do you think runaway with the West? I mean, the only ones I think that that can really challenge them. I I wrote the Seahawks are real anymore. They obviously dropped far out or the niners, right? I mean, I don't think the Cardinals challenged the Rams in that division.

Michael Marcangelo:

I still think at the end of this year, the Seahawks will be if not the first or second in that division. Yeah. Yeah. I just Russell Wilson does not have losing seasons. Yeah, sure. So, I mean, there's always at first, I guess, but I just I don't think it's gonna happen. Now. I think that offense just hasn't really hasn't really been clicking all the time. Rocket has been absolutely fucking destroying me in fantasy football. But that entire offense once it clicks, Chris Carson, DK Metcalf. Lockett They're in a situation now that Dallas was last year, right? Just don't be the worst defense in the league should just be. Just be the 17th defense in the league, you're gonna be fine.

Rob Kelly:

Like, you'd be a great NFL coach. But listen, guys, listen, just don't be the worst. Right? Then we'll be okay.

Michael Marcangelo:

Listen, if you don't have the horses on defense, that's fine. There's two just a little bit better, just a little bit more. And I promise you there's gonna be the playoffs, which now brings us to what I believe is the most anticipated regular season football game in the history of the National Football League. You have Tom Brady. Tom, fucking Brady, coming back in to the house that Drew Bledsoe built but that he decorated for the first time since leaving here and winning a Super Bowl on his first year without Bill Belichick. Mind you just to appease you, Bobby, the Patriots looked like an absolute shitness the last weekend. Now I was with a bunch of people from out of state. I told them they were saints fans. You're gonna win this week. It's not it I just know it. I thought it was going to be because they look past the saints. Who would have thought it's just because the saints are better. You mean you drop Mac Jones back 51 times and he was pressured 35% of the time. It's unbelievable. It's talked about we talked about what what Justin fields right? I understand he wasn't sacked nine times or 67 yards. But he didn't have any time to process anything. That offensive line is absolute garbage. And I don't know we're about to play a team who's been told that their defense is not as good as they were last year that they suck. This smells to me like like the Tampa Bay defense is going to eat Mike Jones alive

Rob Kelly:

to honor so that pats game I think build and Mac a huge disservice after he threw that pitch sex. Listen, I know you're still in the game. Dude, obviously doesn't have it tonight. All right. I got thrown back out there for 50 times I take about but in order for the rest of the game, man. Because at that point, listen, James White was out. Brandon Bolden right in the backfield on path coverage. And there's a blitz up the middle. Brandon Bolden. I was so mad watching him try to play pass coverage on a blitz coverage. I'm not even a pats fan. To see this dude just stand back there. Even the middle he went to the left. Good to the right. doesn't touch anyone. Not one person. And Macedon says three dudes on him. And he throws that wobbly pack right next to it.

Michael Marcangelo:

He was hit running through it.

Rob Kelly:

Right That's what I mean. So he's he throws it and he throws that that pick and so that's to me, not his fault. That's your pocket breaking down, that you're running back not knowing that he's a fucking professional NFL running back and how to pick up a blitz. And that's what happens. You know, when the rest of your teammates fail? You also fail it's just the way it works. Then the second pick Hey, Johnny Smith, were in the goddamn hands. So you hit him right in the hands. For a lose the first play come around a half right? Yep, that first play come down and half raking the hinge picksix to me if I'm Bill, man, at that point, you know that you don't have it today. You know, next week's a big game, you know, you need Mac on his game next week to even to look like your an NFL football team next week. I would have taken them out right there because the narratives that are created now is that Mac Jones is going to be a bust that Mac Jones is this guy. It's been three goddamn games of his career. Okay. It wasn't his fault. It wasn't his fault. He has he made some bad choices, but

Michael Marcangelo:

not for nothing. I'm not in the Mac Jones is gonna be a bust camp. I'm just also I've never been I stand by what I said six weeks ago, this team would have been better off with Cam Newton running this offense this year. I know it. Everyone now knows it. Because it Matt, what happened on I mean, what happened on Sunday, and the Sunday before and after Sunday before it. These are all Cam Newton like wins and losses, one win two losses. Not a lot of touchdowns. That thing that you have lost is your red zone efficiency. You're now one of the very worst teams in the red zone. In the NFL. I think it's a 29% Red Zone. Scoring percentage, which by the way, is half of what it was last year. Matt Jones in this past game, though, against the saints. wasn't his fault, man. When you drop back 51 times and you're pressured 35 percent of the time. It's not good. And oh, by the way, when one of your high priced tight ends decides that today's not the day that he wants to catch the football, you're screwed. Yeah,

Rob Kelly:

you toast. It's 25% after this past week, it's 32nd annually.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, the worst. The first red zone scoring team. It's awful. And this by the way, like this defense. They're not playing great either.

Rob Kelly:

What happened? What happened to your front seven drove the Kamara in that saints offense just wit ran all over them walked all over them that entire game. Geodon was a goddamn no show. In that game. Hightower, no show Hightower got trucks by taysom. Hill. How the hell do you let yourself get trucked by taysom Hill Dante Hightower. I was shocked. I couldn't believe it when I saw that. Couldn't believe.

Michael Marcangelo:

So all this is happening. And now Brady is coming back. Like I said, it's a Gillette Stadium. After getting after losing by 10 points to the Rams. What do you think he's gonna do? Like what do you before we even get to the game? Because that's it. That's an easy answer. As someone who's no longer a Patriots fan, Bobby, how excited are you? For everything leading up to the first kickoff of this game?

Rob Kelly:

I mean, it does take away insides a little bit not gonna lie did it? That's what I did feel bad. I've said that a Dell thing that they came out with all my bald man, that was I almost teared up. I was sitting there just like, oh, Tom, what? We're on the other side. What do you mean, it's gonna be a tough week for you guys? And I can't say I'm not going to enjoy it. Yeah. Okay, enjoy a little bit. But like, I'm really not, though because, listen, it's all built, but it's all Bill's fault. That's what it comes down to is like, I don't care what anyone says. When it comes down to feel Belichick. One a tom brady knew he would be here. Period. All right. And there's no doubt of that in my mind. Like, you have the greatest quarterback now. It's not even God damn close. And he comes up to you at 37 says, I want a five year contract. I want to play to him. 45 you don't you? Do? You look at him go. Okay. I don't care. I don't care. You do it. And if you suffer for that, he caught him. Whatever. But you do it man. Because this is what happens is you get to this point where it's like, Okay, what? Oh, you're just another one of the 53. Guys. Suck you bro is Tom Brady. So it's a little bittersweet because I'm like, Listen, they did it. Don't build data to you guys. You should still have Tom Brady. If things got handled without ego with football decisions. As bill always says it is. Tom Brady will still be so it hurts a little bit for me. For years.

Michael Marcangelo:

Bill always likes to talk about how you'd rather be a year too early the year too late. Right? Fine. You might have been five years early with Brady. There's a real chance that this sob now because of how much the game has changed now how much you protect the quarterback. He might see in his eyes or thinking in his branch. I want to outlast bill. I want to be here. Maybe I'll let you know he was he said to gronk I placed on 50. Maybe he was kidding. Maybe he wasn't as it's currently constituted. Right now. Three through three weeks of NFL football. Brady is 97 of 141 for 1087 yards, 1010 touchdowns, two picks. You know, to quote ratioed from this time last year, ballgame. That's it. Like he went and he won the Super Bowl in his first year. Oh now but he's 44. He's the second leading passer in the league. And your rookie gunslinger from Alabama is the 21st leading passer in the league. I mean, again, we're kind of a family friendly show. But that's him telling bill Fuck off. You were wrong. And I will be here way longer than you thought I would. And now there's this real possibility. I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole. But if he wins One, two, maybe three. Do we start thinking about Tom Brady not and just the context of the New England Patriots. Like you'll actually remember his books here. That's the scary part to me. You don't remember the majority of john Montana's chiefs career? Yeah, he was there for a couple years yeah, he Barb's today have to tell gave me out whatever. If Brady goes to Tampa, after going to nine Super Bowls, and his first 19 years in the league as a starter, and then he wins his first one. And maybe he goes, maybe he wins two more, or maybe he just goes to two more. Now the conversation is okay, you know, a Hall of Fame career three Hall of Fame careers in New England. He also had a separate Hall of Fame career in Tampa Bay. That's what we're talking about now. So I think, let me just get right down to my prediction. It will either be a 38 point win for Tampa Bay, or Belichick wins by one. But it won't be close. That will chase him through everything that he has at Tom Brady. Either he's the only coach in the league that knows Tom. You know better than Tom I know himself in terms of where he's gonna go in the field. But you don't have the horses you couldn't get to. You could not get to jameis Winston, you even Tom Brady's gonna hold on to the ball for longer than four seconds now. Not once. Not never. That's never gonna happen. Bobby, this is gonna be an absolute clinic by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, I have to agree which part I said a lot.

Rob Kelly:

So with that it's gonna be an absolute clinic by the Buccaneers because the motivation that Tampa has coming into this game. So first of all, they just came off their first loss of disease. At D. The, the motivation is absolutely. On Brady's in the buck side. You know what I mean? When you think about it, Brady was the one that was slighted Brady's The one who, according to a dad, and Alex Guerrero was treated like a 20 year old kid, not a 40 year old man phrase, the one who decided that he needed to leave to better his life and his happiness. So like, there's so many different aspects of this that gives the motivation to Brady. On top of that, the Buccaneers are just by far lay better football team. It's it's gonna be ugly. I think it's gonna be 38 to seven. If I had to put a score on it. The only chance the Pats have is they have to realize that they have a rookie quarterback, and stop trying what they're doing with this whole dunk and run game. Like I tweeted something yesterday was like, it could be 3070 and Josh McDaniels would write a screen pass. It's like, bro, it's so true, though. Because like, it just seems like that's all he knows how to do at this point. The only way they can beat the box is attack that secondary, they have to be aggressive through the air, they have to attack that secondary because they're beat up back there. That's how galafold was beaten into video and spread the ball around. And if Mac doesn't have his first 3000 yard passing game, it's gonna be awkward.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, do you have any confidence in the Patriots ability to stop Devin white, Ndamukong Suh and Jason Pierre Paul from getting to him to be frank, because I know. So yeah, he attacked the secondary, but that means that you have to at least let the play develop for longer than four seconds. And I don't know that that's going to be able to happen. Also, one thing that we haven't talked about yet, and like, I know that this is a little soundbite ish. But if you don't think that Rob gronkowski wants to stick his foot far up Bill Belichick ass in this game, you're very, very, very mistaken. This might be the game that Gronk goes seven for 85 yards and three touchdowns. Literally just spikes it right. And Bill's grunting, oversized face

Rob Kelly:

about that. How many seam routes do you think are happier on Sunday? Do you think they specifically have like three to four seam routes called just to be like, hey, barely remember this.

Michael Marcangelo:

I do wonder if Hightower can cover that? Because you got to imagine that he didn't practice for a long time.

Rob Kelly:

Maybe the old Hightower man but this doesn't look like the same Dont'a Hightower movie. Maybe it's rushed because he sat out last year. But I never saw Dont'a Hightower. Like I said, that Taysum thing stood out to me because I was forced down to the game. That was the game. And taysom tracked him so I don't know maybe maybe he can, but not the way he's been playing. It's got to be ugly. Especially know Joe, Joe white too, which is a big thing. James White.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I know. Well, if Mac Jones is your leading rusher, you're in trouble. You're in real trouble because he was last week. I don't know where Damien Harris went but you get you give him six carries or 14 yards. What are we doing? Mac Jones rushed in six times for 28 yards gets the saints so that cannot happen. Couple of the bright spots that do that. That couldn't lead them to picking apart the secondary. Kendrick Bourne Jakobi Meyers has been Mr. reliable ever since Tom left. I think he was one of the receivers that Tom froze out whatever, right? But they don't have the horses to compete with if he's off the COVID list and Antonio Brown, Mike Evans, Rob gronkowski Oj Howard Cameron break, I think is Scotty Miller still there? I think he's okay. Well, you know, he's still better than Jonnu Smith is. So great money. Last thing that we'll talk about for this game that I think is being talked about nationally. Bill Belicheck is 62 and 74. Without Tom Brady. That is a worse winning percentage than Rex Ryan, who has been fired twice and is now in the broadcast with because no one thinks he has the ability to win. Belichick looks ordinary, without the greatest of all time to ever do it. Now. Everyone's Yeah, he was both of them. Phil Jackson, with with Michael and with Kobe Belichick needs to have another plan. Because if he doesn't, he will be remembered as the greatest Coach in New England history that was elevated because he had the greatest football player in the history of the game. Yeah,

Rob Kelly:

I think Belichick like listen, he's a football genius. He really is. But I think that those traits and things that had been endearing for all those years, but Brady, I really come back to bite him in the ass now because you look at how Brady reacted once he went to Tampa Bay, how much fun he's having, how much he's bringing in those other guys that he wanted to play with? How is his team now? It's this machine that Bree built? That's what if belcheck just could have been like I Brady, you don't want to fucking do you think? All that new language, all that New England. And it's it to me is it really is a spot on Bella Jack's record when it comes down to it because he really does look ordinary, not easily look ordinary, but he looks like an ordinary asshole. Yeah, so those two combinations as a head coach isn't gonna work for you. If you're not a great X's and O's guys, or you're not, you know, the greatest wescoe like who raw got, then you better be able to connect to your players and you better be able to have them want to win and want to go out there and run through a wall for you. Bill doesn't give me that that feeling of like, let's go at all. And I think that was very evident this past Sunday because that team's not quite

Michael Marcangelo:

not too far back but like to 2019 wasn't those faults? Are you gonna pass on that he just comes off of what three straight years in the Superbowl 10 straight years in the conference title and the conference title game. Rob gronkowski fuck them that year by doing by retiring late. Also, Bill brought in Antonio Brown. I understand why they had to let go of him. What did they did like baby Just don't threaten a woman in their child, please. Hey, can you not do that? But like that being said, Brady leaving his bills false. No, you just say listen, Tom, you know what, let's just ride this until your wheels fall off. Not though wheels, but yours. Whatever you need. If you need three more years at we'll call it like 30 million a year guaranteed. Let's do it. Because Yeah, I think last year still would have been a down here because of all the dead money that they had tied it to it. But I find it hard to believe that all the players that opted out last year would have still opted out as Tom Brady was quarterback. Right? I think they would have definitely they definitely would played 100% you still would have made a run at the division. So right now, Belichick looks like a guy. He looks like Don Shula right. Don Shula was a football genius in the 70s he wasn't a football genius in the 90s when he was still coaching the dolphins. That's what you're scared of. Yeah, I think he might be the greatest mind that the game has ever seen. But has he lost it? Is he still coaching like it is the mid 2000s the mid 2000s and 10s right and now that he doesn't have the greatest player in the world at deposition to cover up all of his mistakes This is what you get. I still think the Patriots it's gonna be better than what they are currently. I was hoping that they would be coming into this game at three knows that way they can walk out at three and one that was a real chance that they got to be you know a one in three after this game which is awful. Last thing before before we wrap up it's been a long show. I just want to take this this this time to talk about something very near and dear to my heart. The Boston Red Sox are absolute fucking frauds. They are you know, thank you so much for doing your for giving me the pleasure of having a meaningful August September great love You mean it? But they are mentally inept. They are mental midgets. Also you have the season your destiny the postseason in your hands. The Yankees come into town last weekend, and they beat the brakes off of you. The Red Sox started this year nine and four against the Yankees. Since the trade deadline there Oh, and six. So you tell me do you want to go into New York on October 5? And if you do, do you have any confidence that they're going to win? They won't. Native ivaldi Yeah, we all have a great story. I think the guy has balls. I really do. But there's a real difference between being a number one starter and a number three starter and you saw that last weekend. He went up against the Yankees best and they were painting, bucking moonshine off begging him to start. So this team again thank you your whip. Yeah, I

Rob Kelly:

couldn't agree more, bro. That first game. Just you knew it was gonna be one series as soon as that game started because they look flat from anyone. Our bullpen? Matt Barnes, bro, is the biggest fraud of them all. And I think we all knew it the whole time. That man might be the least talented. All Star in the history of Major League Baseball. He made the all star team this year. Right? Come August, we're putting him in in the sixth inning. And it is seven to one, eight to one. Just so we can get his confidence back, bro. Get added here. You are not a closer Red Sox do not have a closer and that is going to be the death of them. By the

Michael Marcangelo:

john Carlos Stanton homerun was the most Manny Ramirez like hormone I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen a right handed hitter. Put a ball that far over the bullpen. And in right field. I mean, it was absolutely ridiculous. But again, it speaks to the overall mentality and mental fortitude of this team. They have no mental toughness. And you know what ownership in the front office didn't believe in them anyway, because you saw what they did at the trade deadline. They went and got a they would, they went out and they got a first baseman. problem there is the guy's never fucking played first base in the major leagues. I don't under standard. And last thing I'll say about this team, against teams that are that are better than 500. The Red Sox are 46 and 48. They're not a good team. They are a better team than we thought they were going to be, which is great. 8868 perfect 90 win team awesome hope to god that that's true. But in a late September series, when your arch rivals come into your ballpark, and you are in possession of the number one wild card spot, you get swept. You got swept you got your asses handed to you. And now all you can do is pray that you hold on to that second spot and you're going to write for a while because Toronto and Tampa Bay are playing each other I know sorry Toronto, New York are playing each other. So like just don't just don't lose like the clip. Just maybe just split your next series right? Just beat Baltimore or Sweden. We do that then yeah, you're gonna hold on to the second wild card spot. The do whatever you need to do to not go to New York on October 5, because this is not a prediction. It is a spoiler. If you go there, you're going to lose and you're going to go home.

Rob Kelly:

Yana completely great, it looks so frustrating about the whole thing is not even just the side guys that are stepping up. It's the guys that we expected to that aren't doing anything. You look at Zander and Devers, they were denied for 41 in this series, which is a combined 220 batting average for your two backbones against your rival to show out like that is is so talented, and I got a mess information on the other day. I think one of them man. I think you got to see what's out there for him. You know what I mean? You got to shake this up a little more. I think we're one step away from being able to do something. But I don't know, the both of them. That left side of the defense is such a liability. Because Devers over there bow guards over there. And if they're not going to pull their weight with the bat and these big situations, man, you got to do something. So I'm with the I'm thinking about Oreos, thinking about positivity. Yo, there's still a chance this team could have a playoff game in Boston. Very possible. a wildcard playoff game goddamnit man, that was so frustrating. That was one of the most frustrating baseball season or series I've seen and quite a time,

Michael Marcangelo:

if you would just split with the Yankees since citrated. Like just split with them. You're still in you're still in a commanding place in terms of that wildcard spot, right? But instead you go oh and six, you lose all six games again. Your arch rivals who by the way, went out of their way to spend their asses off and get the players that they needed to get to fill the voids that they had on that team. You did nothing. So I'm not I disagree with you in the sense that I think your offense is not your issue. You need to in this offseason spend whatever you need to spend go over the threshold rover the tax, get actual pitchers. Chris sale has been great since he came back. Now surround him with actual talent. Again, I think Nathan ivaldi either he has balls, but he's not a number one. So figure it out. Now, if he's your number three, Chris is number two, and you get a real number one in here. Then now we're talking about 100 when Red Sox team, right? So that's really all I had to say about the Red Sox. Bob, do you have anything else you want to say?

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, so I have a question for you. So with the COVID stuff, right? So since the trade deadline, I'm just going to give you your numbers. Yankees are 3519 Red Sox are 25 and 26. So that means the Yankees have gay 10 games on the Red Sox, since the trade deadline was first is just absurd. How much of that COVID outbreak Do you think had to do with it? And do you think that this would be a different conversation if we didn't? If that didn't happen? Are we having a different conversation about how this bowl padlocks about how this rotation looks about how the slag in this team works? Because Listen, beginning of year, there's team at Slack, it just doesn't seem like it's there anymore. And just to add on to this, the Red Sox is lost to the Baltimore Orioles tonight. So that's, you know, so like I just did this flag has completely disappeared from this team. And I don't know what I feel like had to be the COVID thing, right?

Michael Marcangelo:

No, I think No, I think that they're I think that it's fake swag. I think that they're self entitled, that their you know, their first 30 games. Sure. You know, for all those that wrote about us at the beginning of the year, we remember Yeah, remember this? Remember this? Okay, because again, what you just said the Yankees game gained 10 games on them since since the all star break or the trade deadline, right? six of those were head to head Bobby. Yeah. Just split and everything that you just told me is way different. Yeah, COVID is an issue. But as far as I know, you're not the only team in the league that has dealt with COVID. So like, figure it out, because it's still here. It's not going anywhere the foreseeable future, and every other team has to deal with it. And if you think that your team has a chance to make a run, if you're in the front office spend money they've they they will do it right this is what they will do we know that this is the difference between Oh 713 and 18. There's like that five year gap where they kind of you know, they kind of dig around and they're and they're near the playoffs and then there's that one abomination last year where they're like okay, we're gonna do something here and then what they'll get to the World Series again, right? You have the horses on offense pretty good starting pitching right Chris sale of all the NBI and then you know Enrique Rodriguez right that's good or you just need to surround them with the right people so

Rob Kelly:

yeah, and so we set it up the deadline now right we set it when they only gosh horrible this I was trying to stick a farm like oh no they got into pieces they got this they got that wasn't at Dave and said we need to show our guys that we believe that they can make this run that we're only that next piece away from making the run charity came out and said that and the only thing he brought back here was Nick sugar

Michael Marcangelo:

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Rob Kelly:

Right? Who is Kyle schwarber Potosi next robber cow whoever and it's so frustrating because you're right if they went out and they got Listen, we were in the running for scherzer scherzer has been an absolute animal for the Dodgers since he got here I'm pretty sure is under a one era or like one one or something stupid like that. So it's a she's crazy man if they went out and made moves that they could have made because we have the foreign pieces. It would we be a different situation right now but they didn't hear me.

Michael Marcangelo:

Was it been another addition of missing the point? I am Mike. You joined by the real BK Bob Kelly again. Thank you, Craig. Go cowboys. Go Bears go patriots. But more importantly, go Tom Brady will talk to you next week.