Aug. 3, 2021

First Day of 2021 NBA Free Agency, 2021 NBA Draft Winners and Losers, Marcus Smart Wants $20 Million Dollars a Year?!

First Day of 2021 NBA Free Agency, 2021 NBA Draft Winners and Losers, Marcus Smart Wants $20 Million Dollars a Year?!

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On this episode: we'll recap the first few hours of The 2021 NBA free agency, discuss the winners and losers from the 2021 NBA Draft, and is Marcus Smart worth $20 million a year?

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Rayshawn Buchanan:

I'm gonna start in 321 Hello and welcome to missing the point I am your host Sean Buchanan. We have another version of the basketball crew with us here tonight. We have money Mike Martinez Hello newlywed and Mike Mark Angelo and the reo. BK Bob Kelly. So I was gonna do a Miko Magnaflow type mentioning and say don't care how you doing but I do want to know how you're doing. Could I do care of Mike I know we talked about it off air but you know, fellas I'll be doing tonight.

Michael Marcangelo:

Dude good man. It's great to be back feels like it's been such a long time. I'm really honored to be on this on the show. And especially, there was so much I mean, the last week and just sports world right? It's just been so so crazy. And basketball was wild. So happy to be here. Bobby

Rob Kelly:

I'm good, man. I fucking besides this pinched nerve I got going on here. I'm doing great. And a lot of pain but hopefully some basketball Can I can take me away from it for a couple hours here. You know?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, well, that's that's the plan, man. Are you I'm doing good as well. I was telling you all off the air before we got on at all. You know, I just started going back to it. How

Rob Kelly:

rude of us have heard of us. rayshawn How are you? How are you? How are you? rayshawn. How are you ratio?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

tired as hell?

Michael Marcangelo:

What am I didn't ask because I don't care, right.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Today, I understand I wouldn't have any other way. Um, so let's just get right into it. So, um, you know, we're recording this on a Monday on August 2. So the jobs page split took place us me last Thursday. So we'll start with the subjects as you know, we are a New England senator show. So the subjects drafted at number 45 they grabbed an 18 year old kid I Johan The Guardian, and they also signed undrafted, free agent Sam Houser out of Virginia. Um, so And also, you know, they made a couple of trades to get under a, you know, just fine, you know, for so final financial flexibility. Excuse me. I'm like, I'm tired. I'm jumping over my words ridiculous. Um, so they was able to trade for Josh Ferguson and Chris Dunn. Um, so you know, what, what were what was our thoughts about those moodles Josh pics and those two traits?

Michael Marcangelo:

I thought the draft pick was I mean, it was fine. Like there's nothing for me that that stood out. I was like, Oh, yeah, great pic by the Celtics. It just feels like this is just another draft and stash player that we were that we were seeing, you know, 567 years ago. I think I you know, I think he's an athletic guard. I think he's what he does he have like a seven foot wingspan. And he's good for putting you know i from what I've seen and is very limited right? a knack for putting pressure on the room with a quick first step and great great hops love that. We just need a big man like that the solely I see the draft. I see all the moves. And I appreciate and I think what we've talked about off the air is you can see Brad making his tweaks to the team and trying to get better because he saw what their weaknesses were right last year as a coach. My opinion though is still our most glaring weakness is still the fact that we need a really a number one guard and we need a big man but for what these moves are, they were fine but the draft I mean, I don't know if I'm wrong here but the draft didn't blow me away.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

And what about the widget sending done trades?

Michael Marcangelo:

I do I do like Josh Richardson I think it's always good to have a versatile skill or score on the bench. I like that he can you know he he's averaging what 12 points through his career. He's not going to eat up a ton of minutes but he'll be out there we just I think another one of the things that we saw last year too was bench scoring was terrible. So we need reliable bench scoring and if that's what Josh Richardson can do if that's what Chris Dunn can do that then I'm all for it because we can't just have the starting five have to put up at points a game and expect to have a good year. So I think i think that i think the Celtics free agency thus far was is leaps and bounds ahead of the draft. I know they didn't have you know too many draft picks so much that they could have done but I do love the addition so far but it does leave me thinking about what's coming next

Rob Kelly:

yeah man so completely completely agree the draft to me. I want to say it was a waste of a pack but was it was a waste of the pack. I don't understand there's there's still guys on the board there that definitely gonna help this team this year, or at least ate up some minutes. You know, we have taco fall even. We have these end of the bench guys, uh, Luke Garza coming in here on the second round right there. Listen, we need big bodies. He 610 man was just national Player of the Year two years in a row. And I just think that that was the guy to me. I would have liked to see him again. But yeah, Josh but Justin. So the hate on this man. From from going from a player who got traded as the centerpiece of a deal around Jimmy Butler two years ago, right? This dude is a actual baller that can come in here and help us out. He's literally exactly what we've been asking for, from the bench from this ownership from the organization to give us for these past two years is actual NBA players who can come off the bench and give you significant minute. And they went out and got two of them, because they also got Chris dawn, like rayshawn said, and done Donna's great defensive skills. He, he struggles from the field, sometimes he has some offensive struggles, but the defense that he plays is almost on the level of, I guess, close to the level as Rouhani at points, like he's that kind of lockdown defender guard. So to bring him in here, too. I think people are underrating him a lot. And I do think there is a chance that next year Chris Dunn is the starting point guard for the Boston Celtics. Oh,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

yeah. I mean, that that's definitely a heartache. There wasn't I don't think he'll be the starter. I mean, I know it could be Pritchard, it could be they bring in Patty Mills, who knows? Um, I think the days of getting a lead all star guard, maybe behind just for the time being. You know, I think that, you know, maybe Brad and other people just kind of start from that. Obviously, you know, it became an all star then you had Kyrie then you had you had kemba. Right? On, and all all three, even though we love the ice era, I said, David result in anything that we wanted here. So I'll just fan so I just think if you just get a serviceable guard to play alongside him of brown, you know, to keep highlighting what they do best on the court with a score. And just and just really dominate out there. You know that that's what you need. Right? So I think Patty Mills would be someone it'd be perfect. Obviously, you know, he's familiar with the MA doca. You know, with being down there in San Antonio. So we'll see what happens with that. But for the 45th pick on it, I kind of figured it'd be your job to stash man, because that's just what they've been doing the last two years. I just think that, you know, he's we've been asking for a big guard here in Boston, we've been asking for that right? Not saying he's gonna come over here immediately. He's not he's 18 but we've been asking for a guy that 6566 Well, guess what? He grabs him. The kid could actually play like, I mean, I watched Alex I've only watched hollows admin. I can't say that. Like I've watched all the games that I haven't obviously, I didn't hear about him and so we actually drafted him but to be 18 he's he's pretty polished as a finisher around the rim. So to me he's just like, like he's a bigger Romeo Langford for sure. So you know Bobby, what do you want to add to that?

Rob Kelly:

How do you know how to pronounce his name?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I want to say is Johan bigiron

Rob Kelly:

The garden is that it but garden are in Boston and Boston will be Bulgarian right? There pump Garin and guy, right? Yeah,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

exactly if he ever gets up here, but same thing with the you know, the guy who signed undrafted, free agency was Sam Houser. Right? Um, he was a 50 4090. Guy last year, Virginia, and Virginia. There's anything they can do outside of scoring, those guys can defend. So, um, that that team has always been historically good for defense. And there's no last I would say last decade, I would say, um, so yeah, someone that could shoot and possibly defend. He's six, seven. Um, I think eventually I would love to see what he does on the summer league roster, for sure. So we'll see what happens. But yeah, as far as registered and done coming, I'll start with Chris Dunn. I, I can openly admit to them. Yeah, it's on Facebook. So it's not like you either run away from me, but I was someone that wanted Chris Dunn draft night. I was not a Jaylen brown supporter. I was I was like I said, Chris Dunn is guys. That's the guy. Um, you know, he was local, he was coming from Providence. I was like, this is this makes sense. Like, just just get him. You know. Um, so you know, thank God that we know, we weren't in the, you know, the sufferings war room because we would all look stupid. Um, but Chris Dunn has had some moments and in the NBA, he was sending around that Jimmy Butler trade a few years ago as well. So we got guys that were traded for Jimmy Butler, who is an all star. So you know, yeah, I like I like what Yeah, I like I like what Donna can do. And as far as Josh vergessen goes like that he's two or three years. He's two years removed from getting 16 a game right now obviously, he's gained that here in Boston. Um, but once again, it adds depth. I don't know This means the end of market smart arrow. I said we'll get into that later on in the show. You know, that's a big markets. He is there. You know, are you doing Joe? But uh, yeah, I just think that that's what's going on. So yeah, I'm excited that Brad actually went out and did this. I stand by what I wrote in our in our group chat. I believe that you know, GM Brad is already doing a better job than dating coach Brad. You know what, Cory coach, Coach Coach horseshoes for sure so yeah,

Rob Kelly:

so the thing with the whole like everyone being mad about Moses Brown is to me that it's it's the most Celtics thing Celtics fan thing I've ever seen in my entire life lesson there's a reason like I get it he has potential I understand but there's a reason why Oklahoma City threw him in in the trade okay there's a reason Boston was willing to part with this dude so easily and how can you really be that mad when you haven't seen him play a game any uniform like listen, I got it we need a big band we brought in to I want to say we brought in two actual guys that can give us 20 to 25 minutes a game and those methods actually be productive eight out of 10 nights before free agency even started we unloaded Canvas contract before free agency even started you know like if you think about all the years all the shit we've been through the Celtics past few years we did these things before free agency even started so like I get to a point where it's like I did just sound like a broken record but it's like what are we really complaining about here guys? Like it's they're just finding things to complain about and it drives me fucking nuts I talked to you about it yeah that but that's

Rayshawn Buchanan:

what this fan base is about right and it this is listen but those that listen to this and you get annoyed by takes one oh well to thank you for listening. Because this is not shouted jock radio right? We're not how we're starting. Or Don Imus back in the day. But this is the thing such as we continuously look to be what we desire to be pissed off like, is that I don't know because we got scarred by certain certain events. So I feel like people have been angry since 2010 files like extremely angry. I feel like if we read one another title like folks may or may not have been as as upset, but I'm just like, oh my god, like it just it just doesn't make sense.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, Celtics fans are I think in this area, I think are the most forgiving of their team. I think they're I think they're the least fickle fan base in in Boston.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I disagree.

Rob Kelly:

The most the most instant over reactionary though. they explode in the moment

Rayshawn Buchanan:

is I'm listening. We was we was praying to Luke Coronet like this do Luke when he was that was fucking Bill Russell like it was out of control. Greg Smith remember the hype around Greg Steedman? That's what this Moses brown thing reminds me of like Tommy heinsohn was calling Greg steam of Bill Russell 2.0 my my man I'm I guess he got lighter overnight. Hmm. Oh, my God, like I'm sorry, that was a bad joke. But I was just like, oh my god like mostly mostly embraced him in Warsaw. Maybe I listen, you got you got to try googling. Remember who he was. But he was number 54 and the Celtics but oh my god, like that's so bad. But like,

Michael Marcangelo:

that clip comes up when you when you when you Google him? It's Tommy saying like, he reminds you of a young Bill Russell? It's really it's ridiculous. But I think so i don't i don't want to advocate for the outrage of Celtics fans, but I'll do it seeing as I'm here. I think you know, Moses brown being traded after just getting him It's like he people thought he addressed a need instantly. Right? And they got themselves wrapped up into this thing like oh, like we're going to be okay. Like we have a kind of an athletic big we're going to be good again. And then it's just instantly gone. I get being so I'm not upset about it. Right. I like he was here for a cup of coffee. I think it's but it still is a need. Right. The five is a glaring need for this team. We can we at least agree on that.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Sure, but most to think that Moses Brown was going to come in and be damn damn out of bio is Yeah, it's caught. If anything, the guy is going to be bam. He's already on a team and that's Robin Williams like that's the guy that can be BAM because Robin Williams can pass really well on which is why they dropped down to be behind al Horford event. Initially, guess what we now have that again, guys. Like, relax. Take your ticker. Take a deep breath. It's okay.

Rob Kelly:

That's so like when everyone chills out and and forgets about the whole Saturday thing. The impact of Josh Richardson is going to have on the Celtics is tenfold of what Moses brown would have had on this team. Okay, it Josh Richardson is a potential. Here, I feel like that's a little much, but he's a potential all star. You know what I mean? He actually has the ability to make an all star team. Moses Brown was going to struggle to get 15 minutes on this team this year, you know, and he's playing. He's already started in rotation behind Horford and Williams. So he's not getting 15 to 17 minutes a game. So it was just like, Guys, chill out. All right, we dressed exactly what we wanted. All right, we don't have grant Williams shrimati waters and Carson Edwards playing significant minutes in a goddamn playoff game this year. Okay, the Phil by Josh Richardson and and Don bro like come on, relax.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Well I hate I hate that I hate I hate to burst your bubble cuz we got some breaking news as Oh as literally so Evan Fournier signed a four year deal for 73 million with the New York Knicks. Yep, so so so unfortunately those two guys may be playing mirrors next year, but you know, it is what it is. Either way I agree with you. Because we're going to pass tests it does, it does address the need a new guys off the bench, they got that 48 two was here for a cup of coffee. But once again, I guess the Celtics wasn't going above the 16 million threshold. which is which is which is kind of unfortunate. In my opinion. I felt like he also addressed the need they had and they needed that fourth guy that can get you at the game. Um, and we saw that in moments where you've really worked with him and kemba and him and hate him or him in brown like so to me. I would like to see that a little bit longer. But it is what it is. I mean listening congrats that before sending me a million dollars richer does That's beautiful. My brother 18 mil a year. You were in Gotham City on New York had a really good season last year. So you know, he's gonna do nothing but add, you know, to what they're building over there, as they say now add to the culture. That is the New York Knicks. Oh, yeah. So I mean, it is what it is. So, but I said what we'll jump off the South this talk for now, and we'll get back to that later on. So let's jump into the NBA Draft. So I said this is NBA Draft recap show. So Kay Cunningham, who played at Oklahoma State went number one. So you know, just you know, how good do we think he's going to be? And you know, what does that says? Was that the consensus number one overall pick to tease you.

Rob Kelly:

k Cottingham? Absolutely. What's the consensus number one pick it we knew it going into March Madness this year. He was by far and away the best prospect that was out there. I could see an argument to go up. I could see an argument to go. I can't think why am I blanking on his name? Jaylen green. Yeah, I can see an argument to go Jaylen green. The only thing is, is I feel like the G league really took that option away because you're not seeing him in the spotlight. You're not seeing him on that big stage. You're not seeing him against the big competition. So should wait to go number one on him and risk your entire franchise on someone that is so much of an unknown it just automatically put the ball in cage court so yeah, absolutely. Cunningham was the consensus number one pick I'm excited for him on the pistons mad they haven't had a player with cades ability in a very long time. You know what I mean? Like since the rip Hamilton era Chauncey Billups like they haven't had a dude with this much upside in a long time so I'm pumped for the pistons that they got their guy in Cade because I don't know about you guys but watching him on March Madness was so fun man. The way he took games over He's so good. Going to go into the hole. Yeah, yeah, he's a good guy is good number one pick for sure. He's not Anthony Bennett. I'll tell you that.

Michael Marcangelo:

Just as a lock pecker I mean, I think knowing who he is how great of a player he was in college and is he fills a need for Detroit. Now Detroit has two big durable switchable guards between him and his a Killian Hayes that it balances each other out both offensively and defensively This is a great situation for him to go in. I think you know, How good can he be? I think the sky's the limit everything that I've seen about this about this kid is that you know he has excellent shot making and passing ability he's probably the best defender that's it that was available in the in the draft some of the other comments you know, are like he's a smart passer her already understands how to manipulate defenses. Those are all great now if he can, so it sounds like he has all the tools to walk on and be a good starter it's just a matter of time before how like how great can he be and how long does it take him but I do think that a young piston squad is the is a perfect fit for him to be on and they're gonna be they're gonna be tough now.

Rob Kelly:

He has the ability to share because of the team he's going to to put up 2526 points in his rookie year again without a doubt you know what I mean? Like he has that that Anthony Edwards upside he has that Lonzo upside like that's that's how good of a prospect he is. Now rayshawn I know who your guy was man. I know who your guy was. Mr. Mobley right

Rayshawn Buchanan:

or the big guy yeah from from USC. Yeah, yeah, I mean I I liked um, I like that and grid. I'm yeah, I think I think I was right at the pick that we talked about, right. We talked about who's going to go there. I think Mobley. I'm going through to Cleveland. It just made sense. And it obviously now. They've reached Jared Allen as well. So clearly they're gonna do a big and big lineup, I guess for the, you know, for the near future out there in Cleveland. So yeah, I mean, he just showed it pass it on before as far as K rock. That's what we're talking about right now but yeah, I think it's gonna be a real deal too. Um, but yeah, k Yeah, k definitely should have been no more pick for sure. Like, there should have been no doubt about that. I just think to me, your your six, eight to 25 can handle like that is just crazy. I wouldn't say I'm in love with his defense. I mean, I get that, you know, they, you know, the scouts want to hype him up. I wouldn't I wouldn't say he's an elite defender yet. Um, you know, but the thing is he luckily he's coming into a team, you know, that's being coached by Randy. Um, I don't want you to think his name right now. But the coaches in Detroit. His name is escaping me, but he goes in Detroit. So I want to say it's not Randy Casey, I forget his name. Anyways. Um, it's okay, as I said, but as I Well, you know, we

Rob Kelly:

went Casey,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Dwayne Casey on my ready case. As you know, Randy Casey congratulates my brother You made the show. You're a dean alumni. I know you've already set up so that's a really well, yeah. Yeah, we know the way Dwayne Casey um, you know, he coaches up defense in that desperate you know, you can't play for him you don't defend. And next that I think, you know, last year we talked about who won the draft and I talked about Detroit when the draft last year, we're going to get into one of the draft very shortly, you know, so you know, listeners have to stay tuned for what Mike has to say cuz he will he was on fire earlier about. Oh, we thought one of the jobs I know he just had to get to that but yeah, I mean, yeah, you put him with Hayes. siddig Bay is really good. I still it was really good. I know those guys were both all rookie last year so yeah, they definitely have some building blocks. I know they just signed Kelly olynyk as well today as well. So for three years 37 mil so that's another shooter to add you know to take away out take someone off the page you know for kids to kind of move around so yeah, like so. Yeah, keep getting sure to Jamie grace the problem so yeah, they got something cooking over there in Detroit man and nice occasionally going to add to it and like says players like him Don't come along too often. And once again, those were parents who like those guys want to picture the day they were there to trade on. He's easily the best pigs since Isaiah Thomas. And we're talking 40 years. 40 years. 40 years ago. I said Thomas were number two overall in 1981 draft like that. That's it. He's easily to you know, the best from since then. You know, so, yeah. What? What's your sold? Oh, I know. It's crazy. I know as well. It is. Well, you know, I thought she was doing it for the encyclopedia knowledge. But

Rob Kelly:

now. Yes, no, we're immune. We're immune to the basketball knowledge at this, bro. It's

Rayshawn Buchanan:

right. Yeah. So congrats, decayed, you know? D joy, basketball. I got you guys got you. One. I think I may order a jersey in the mail. I want to see if they come up with some shoes, man. So I like the colors of the pistons have. So you know what, we'll go into that. So, but we'll leave it at that. So let's get into the winners of the job. So Mike, we'll start with you. So what did you think won won this year's draft?

Michael Marcangelo:

Yes. So I it was close to me. But I think that the winner just because of the scenarios that are outlined, I think the Charlotte Hornets, I think I think they had the best draft of the knights and I think it was close between them. And probably Golden State. You think about that they they were able to draft an explosive explosive scoring guard. It was James is it Bonet or Buckman? I

Rayshawn Buchanan:

always i think i think i think his book is James bouknight. Book night.

Michael Marcangelo:

Good night.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Book. No book, book and

Michael Marcangelo:

night. Okay. James bouknight. I think he was supposed to he was supposed to go top 10 right. And he slid. And then they they're able to they're able to make a trade and pair that with an athletic big is it Chi Jones. So just the thought, just think about this the idea of lamella ball pushing the pace in transition with with bouknight and Jones running the lane. That's scary. That's a scary thought. And then you still have weapons like Terry rozier Gordon Hayward, miles bridges and PJ Washington. So I think knowing what you have already waiting for you. I think the I think the Hornets hit it out of the park.

Rob Kelly:

agreed by Bobby. So I also was torn between two and that is the Orlando Magic being able to get Jaylen Suggs and the team that's responsible for them being able to get Jaylen Suggs in Toronto Raptors, but I'm gonna go with the Raptors just because they they they threw a curveball at everyone and pick Scotty Barnes when everyone thought the pic was going to be Jaylen Suggs, Nelson. Scotty Barnes is a very, very raw player. I think he still has some time but to pair him with him. go seek, I can ever say to them

Rayshawn Buchanan:

siaka

Rob Kelly:

siakam Thank you, Pascal siakam download is going to be an immovable force down there. He was, he can, he can defend, he can do everything except for shoot the ball. So there's a bit of a Draymond Green vibe to him. And that's his upside. So I just think because of that defensive upside, because of the impact that he can have on the game. I think when it's all said and done, he might be the guy that has the best chance of being like a year in and year out. I'll start with an idea three or four him and Cade, I, those are my two favorite guys coming in. So I got to go the Raptors thrown a curveball. And going with Scotty Barnes. Oh,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I want to add to that point, right. So, you know, Scotty barn I mean, just to Atlanta, Hamilton does and the for those who don't know, hold on to him today, he's the head coach down at Florida State. Um, last year at the St. Pick, Chicago post, Patrick mahomes, at FSU, um, who was like, Man, you know, yeah, Devin herself. That was a teammate that, you know, got pushed back to 11. Um, he just, he just gets wings that can guard and that can just play basketball. And that's just what they do. And that's why they've had a good run down there for the state. Right. So, um, I actually thought he would be a top five pick. I you know, I didn't think that was that was that much of a curveball, but I get you know, why, obviously, if you have Sunday, you should take them but, you know, um, I think Orlando probably needed him more than that. They probably also didn't think there was going to lose Kyle Lowry either, but that happened. So Oh, well. But I said Barnes siakam I said that's gonna be great. Great wings help you win in this league? Yes. Let's say you need you need to you need to all star God, I truly believe that. I talked about that all the time. But if you have two great wins, that that changes the game dramatically and you know, family's good enough to you know, to hold it down and you know, they have they have to keep you know, some guys that it has they got a huge gay trend and some other guys that have that, but yeah, I have to agree with you though. Mike. You know, chi Jones was someone that it was every state is 16 that's someone I would have wanted. Boston driver 16. But, um, and I said not to go back to the south. I think that's why people kind of said to him say wait a minute, like, you go up to 16 pick. And then it's like you get frozen Brown. Basically, they basically traded for Moses brown essentially. Um, and it basically selling us fan selling the fan base like well, Moses brown would have been better than the 16th pick and then you know, quicker than I can say once you are through Cancun, he was gone. He was gone.

Rob Kelly:

Josh Richardson is definitely better than the 16th overall pakoda

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I agree with that that's what that's what some of the rationale is gonna be for that that fan base we just know how it is. I don't agree with that you know, and I know that's just how they that's how they think. But you know back to back to the one another draft so yeah to get Chi Jones to get bouknight on can I'm assuming they're gonna they're gonna run out some league monk after he's been a little bit of a headcase down there Charlotte but he's someone that can shoot someone that was he was the 11th pick a few years ago um but yeah, I think that he sees some you know that they want it believe it or not Golden State to me getting jothika manga was huge too and number seven

Rob Kelly:

that feels like a trade waiting to happen though doesn't it with with Wiseman and we thought so. And it looks like we're gonna get it so but I'm gonna be very contradictory in a minute anyway, so

Rayshawn Buchanan:

we'll get to that. But

Rob Kelly:

before we move on, there's a couple other winners I do need to talk about. And that's and that I do have to go back to the magic because I completely forgot that they didn't just get Jaylen Suggs, they got frogs Wagner to anyone that watched a tournament this year that pick Michigan was very happy when Franz Wagner had the ball. Alright. Franz Wagner is a Danilo Gallinari. he's a he's a who else trying to get gout he's got what are is my best comparison for him. He's a playmaker who can shoot who can score he can rebound you can do everything. And you got Jaylen Suggs in the same draft Are you kidding me? That that's that's exciting because I don't know about all you guys but I 100% had our wedding magic started jacket growing up so like I anytime the magic are good, this guy let's go

Rayshawn Buchanan:

didn't have the starter jacket but I definitely had the penny shoes and you know, had a little Penny had a little Penny extra figure you know, so that definitely had that. I don't know if I had the I had a Honda jacket though. I did have that. You know shout out to Alonzo Mourning but go ahead Mike

Michael Marcangelo:

also just before it because I there was you know we talked about Golden State i thought was my next one but I think a low key winner of the draft what were the Pacers? Right. I think Is it is it Chris?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Is it all credit Chris? Yeah, Chris do watch it. Yep.

Michael Marcangelo:

RJ and I and Isaiah Jackson, I think that they those two picks, again not gonna make the headlines of those perfectly. Like they complement the roster as it's currently constructed. And I think having a guy like Isaiah Jackson learning under Myles Turner sets them up to have a really good big man and going forward for a long period of time. And I get I don't I don't know a lot about Duarte, but I know from what I've seen that he's a he's a lockdown defender and he's in he's an NBA ready three point shooter, which is actually what they need to come up with is a Chris McDermott. So he cuz he was said he said to hit unrestricted free agency, right?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, actually. Yeah, he walked.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, all right. Yeah. So he's gone. So this is a perfect replacement.

Rob Kelly:

One more to one more two. We can't go any further without talking about the fact that the Lakers also picked up Russell fucking Westbrook. They have to come out We can't leave the winners category without talking about the fact that was I know to rest, I understand. But they went from guys that couldn't sniff the bronze cleats to now three three legitimate dudes there that listen if they don't go to the finals next year. It's now a failure for that team. Like that's how much this team like jumped out after this past season get knocked out in the first round.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Oh, cool. let's let's let's let's stay there says Bobby jumped in. I broke my spine. So Mike. That's fine. That's fine. Um, you know, it's our Shall we do we want to do so. Go ahead, Mike. So what what do you what are your thoughts about the Detroit?

Michael Marcangelo:

I love? I love the move. I think, you know, I've been probably one of the only advocates in this group that has been saying listen, I would love Westbrook on this team because he's just a dog. Like you you know that he wants it He will make everyone around him better. The biggest complaint about him out of out of Houston was from harden who said that he was on his ass for showing up late if that's if you're labeled like a nut job because of that. Sign me up. I want him I don't know how he how he complements this team. I think the offense typically runs best if I get it historically, you know through LeBron you know to Anthony Davis. And and you know I think one of one of the criticisms for for Westbrook is that his shot selection is often poor. I do think that now he has a you know, this team if healthy and it really depends on what they can do now because they put themselves in a position where I think they only have what four or five people actually signed to the roster. And they're so they're going to need a lot of veteran minimum players to come in. But this this is a really really good Big Three now is Brooklyn's healthy they don't the Lakers can't cannot touch them. I don't think but I love it and I mad you know another mothers have in my life has a Celtics fan where I'm pissed off at the Lakers because I wanted Russell Westbrook no one else in Boston did. But I love it. I gave up a lot. But you have to you to get a player of his caliber in my opinion.

Rob Kelly:

Can I can I ask is the buddy hield off the table now? Do you know is it completely done? Because if dad wasn't insane either, buddy hield to that goddamn roster with those three and then you got buddy hield who is I think probably one of the more underrated three point shooters in the history of the NBA like this dude is absolute white out from three point he shoots I think 45% career from three. I don't know if you guys remember him in Oklahoma, but he was a beast.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Because it's out there soon.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, I wanted them to take him over. Jaylen, again. Another person, right? Was that? Yeah,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

yeah, he came out. 2016 Yeah. But he went so Jaylen 30 went number six. So yeah, but then

Rob Kelly:

you so you have two guys who are unstoppable driving to the rim, a dude, he's unstoppable in the post and Judas shoots 45% from fucking three point, dude, lights out, it's that that that roster is perfect. And I would love it. I hate the Lakers. But I would love to watch it I have doing it.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I don't think it would be on the table only because they gave her four guys to get westberg Now obviously, you know, we know how things work. If you're the if you're one of the premier teams in the NBA, they'll shake and move mountains for you. So, um, who knows that that could happen. And you know, remember my new Angel swipe of home we're on that bandwagon as well. So you know, you can go back and listen to that show that will be in the show notes. How to do that how to do that one wants to show but yeah, so I mean as far as the rust trade goes, I'm I'm kind of in between man could I actually want to see Chris Paul go there instead, right? Um, you know Chris Paul, obviously very sound with Phoenix, you know, four years old 120 mil. So once again, shout out to his agent. His agent needs every type of raise you to think of because it's highway robbery and then some But once again, that's a whole nother show for the day but um yeah like yeah yeah drumroll please right. But it was crazy like I to me um Washington actually to me one of the trade and it's wild to say that because it's like oh my god he went to you know Russia is going to LA but I might well you could get for rotation players like that you get kcp charisma I forget the other two bureaus in the deal but I'm like when you get guys that can that can add to especially in the east as well like and you get you get you put that around Bradley bill and then they're going to get Thomas Brian back that was that got hurt last year. Um, like they got really Xiomara. Like shouldn't be like they have some pieces there that can actually get to the playoffs in in the east. So to me I think Washington initially won the trade Now obviously, they're not going to go further than the Lakers that's like I said barring injury obviously. Was it made sense? Because I look like a very healthy dollar we know who's gonna who's gonna get there but right. Um, I don't know. To me I think Washington want to trade but I mean, listen, you have to you have to take the risk. You have to do that. Um, I would not have loved that in Boston did that. I mean, but then again, I said that you would have replaced Marcus smart Russell Westbrook and I'm just like that would have been if if people think Marcus smart drove people crazy. Hey, Russell Westbrook. What a joke. After the fucking moon. I'm just saying.

Michael Marcangelo:

Isn't isn't this I mean, this is the most prolific point guard that LeBron will have since Kyrie right and that's literally the only one that he's

Rob Kelly:

so so this is this is the disrespect Mario Thomas is the perfect situation for us. That's why it's so perfect. If he came to Boston, I guarantee you we wouldn't have liked him and it would have had it would have had a whole different feel to it because I I don't see Ross being able to fit in with Tatum and brown. I just think they're all two ball dominant. That's the way they work. But putting LeBron and Ross next to each other and having them drive the lane like that. And having Anthony Davis the clog the middle. Listen, you can't you can't collapse on anyone. No matter what you cannot collapse on a single person. Because Anthony Davis was gonna dominate you in the post if you're one on one. Alright, it if they get a three point shooter he

Rayshawn Buchanan:

got he got to dominate icyhot sudo. So I mean, who knows? So you know,

Rob Kelly:

I feel I feel like this. I feel like this Celtics logo on my chest is literally burning a hole into my chest with how much I'm talking how good the Lakers I

Rayshawn Buchanan:

have done anything tonight. Right? I mean, I said we're recording on a Monday I'll do nothing, nothing. Nothing. I won't. I mean, I didn't say like they did. They did their stuff. Yeah, before I saw it, just like we know. But obviously, you know, recency. They have to do something. Now other teams are adding the great players like, it's like just just just show I said, you know, horseshoes has done a good job so far as a GM. And I said, Well, we'll see. We'll see what they do next. So let's hit it. So we did we did go up to another time we want to talk about it. We talked about Russ, I want to go back. So actually, Mike, I'll go with you. Because since it was just Bobby just talking. Yeah. Yeah. No, you good? How was? Um, how would Who were your losers on the draft?

Michael Marcangelo:

So it's the Brooklyn Nets. And the reason why I say that is, you know, for a team that is is thought to be a perennial contender, and it's a winddown mentality, it like it. It actually fucking blew me away that they selected five picks in this draft. But they didn't try to make any moves to trade for a player for now. They did land. Who is it Cameron, Thomas, who I think is regarded as if not the best, and the second best pure scorer in the draft. But they also they didn't get a lot. They didn't get a lot better defensively, either. So I think for who they are and what we expect them to be. It's very odd to see a, you know, a championship contender right now, actually select five times. I think a lot of the picks were redundant. So that's why I would say that they that they lost a draft for me of the teams that could make picks, you know, there were teams that didn't have any, so I can't grade them. But I think the biggest loser is the NES

Rayshawn Buchanan:

right and if for me, right, so like I said, I told I said, I said a few segments ago, I'm gonna be contradictory. I talked about how getting commingle was dope. And getting Moses moody from Arkansas was dope. But Golden State semi last. Like when you when you have even once again those are good picks but when you when you have the window of Steph Curry Klay Thompson coming back and Jen Margaret was coming. You know, he was coming. He was already on the court, but you know, you have to bring somebody in They're so play with them. And I get it. You know, Philadelphia was asking for a king's ransom. We get it. I don't know why they was asking for a 99/91 shot but it's like, like, like, like Daryl Morey. Like you had to be smoking dope. Like someone Someone wants a spike. Generally she's taking my brother like, I don't understand. Um,

Rob Kelly:

it was Wiseman, the Wiggins, Wigan Wiggins the four and the four ends.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, no, yeah, no seventh 14th pick 740 and the end and for the for first time, it's like go like fuck, like, like, I just I just want to know,

Michael Marcangelo:

for kids who can't shoot,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

like, right forgot it can't shoot. Who was an elite defender elite pass?

Rob Kelly:

Oh, shoot, not can't won't.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

It's just like, Oh my dear, I'm more like and I get it because you don't want to be the guy that gets rid of the guy that he goes to Golden State or wherever he goes and becomes the man I understand that but at the same time, it's just like that to me was crazy. Like I think Wiseman and those two picks would have been enough you know, or even or even wiggers right? Like like wiggers to me would have been fine. Wiggins the seventh pick and 14th pick for you know for Simmons to me would have been would have been fine um especially if you're selling alone him right now and the fact that you still could have got two first round picks for him like that to me is crazy but then again, because Philly blew there and win now mode to you especially being in the Eastern Conference. But this is like yo like you're not better than Milwaukee obviously right now. You're not better than than Brooklyn have healthy I'm sure we tell it to Boston places or potentially they're not better than Boston either in my in my opinion right now right now right so you know so

Michael Marcangelo:

you don't think you don't think Golden State if

Rayshawn Buchanan:

no Philly I'm saying Philly I'm sorry Phil yeah that's that's what I mean yeah, so I'm just looking like a nice guy said he didn't want to deal so what I was asking all that but you know go to stay rejected but yeah, go to state man I like somebody else's a dad and I'm losing it because let's say you had to find a way to get that maybe they should have went that route the bill I get it it would have been a one year rental but who knows maybe he goes there becomes you know becomes a love with the Golden State crowd was that crowd is unreal when them guys on um, could have fell in love with it. You know, the kid his kid is gonna follow his wife gonna fall in love with it. Um, so you never know what could have happened you know, Joe Lego new guys take care of them guys out there. So I don't know. But um, yeah, but to me I say even though I say I like to commend your pickup like moody. I said to me, Dad, I'm losing it because I said they didn't move off of those. They didn't move off of those pack. So it is what it is. So Bobby, you can give your your losers never move on.

Rob Kelly:

So I have my biggest loser is the San Antonio Spurs. Man, Josh Primo at 12. That's the biggest reach. I've seen. He He's as raw as it gets. He three and d is good. But man, I just feel like this team is losing their touch. I don't know what's going on with them. They had guys in the board that just seemed like we're destined to be San Antonio sports. Uh, Chris Duarte, dude. Popovich would have loved this dude, Moses Moody, and they passed over him for a dude that probably they could have traded back and gotten around, like, early second round late first round. So to me, I just thought that was blasphemy. Just Just because of I was I like Josh Primo. I don't think he's a bad player at all. But he's not the 12th pick in the NBA draft is not a lottery selection. But isn't Isn't this a Bill Belichick type of move? It is it is and that's that's what scares me. That's what scares me. You know, cow,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

a cow dog got drafted D two. I don't know. He comes in plays Really? Well, not saying they're pretty much gonna be that guy. But I agree with you though. I do think in that sense that, um, you know, Primo could be a complete bust But no, I'm no keep making your point. Can I cut you off?

Rob Kelly:

No. Then the other Biggest Loser and this just sticks out because of who they pass up and let slide right past them as the Memphis Grizzlies, man. What do you think and you have a guy that you can come and pair with with john Moran and have a real score and book night and you pass over him for zyre Williams? And like Tyler Williams is anyone supposed to go there? Like

Rayshawn Buchanan:

that's why I

Rob Kelly:

but did they end up trading that who'd they get? No.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Did you share that with New Orleans? I think um, oh god, I forgot who went 17th but I agree. You're right. But I should have been to pick a 10

Rob Kelly:

I agree. You gotta have a chance to have like a Jaylen Tatum. You know what I mean? Those are your two guys. Now that you build around you have two legitimate NBA scores. And when you have that in the NBA, you're you're half you've won half the battle. You know what I mean? So

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I I agree.

Rob Kelly:

It's so easy when you when you have an opportunity to do that. And you pass on him for someone who I think is a poor man. Really. Go bear not even ready go bear like a poor man. Andrew bytom like not he's he's not he's not that man. He has he doesn't have any let's say he doesn't have any offensive skills he has nothing he's all

Rayshawn Buchanan:

oh my god no just just say everybody you're not that guy but I just saved for

Rob Kelly:

the last one as a player I feel so bad for David Mitchell man for this dude because the canes he's gone to the worst franchise in the NBA five five m they've so many guards bro they've all got their like Celtics of five years ago where they just keep picking a point guard in the first year, every year and you're like I guess we're just gonna play small ball.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

And Mike if you want to time nothing ever but a free but Okay, listen, Debbie on micho Deanna Fox and Tyrese Haliburton that's a really good trio. That's a really good show really

Rob Kelly:

Altria that

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Jeff was like six five though Halliburton six, six. And then and then now that Mr. Small he's little he's he's he's 61 on a good day. He's 600 maybe maybe on a good day but Defensive Player of the Year national champion goes after it. They needed they knew they needed a dog and they found one. They found one light now Marvin, Marvin Bagley as I scratched my head because I'm scratching my head. I can't believe how bad he's become. I'm in Sacramento, but ya know that that three girl lineup is gonna be crazy. dairy farms is a problem. That's just my opinion. But I to me, I'm on your I'm on your trip. I'm on your way. Bobby. I'm gonna wait and see. I'm away and see with with David. I mentioned that I think to me, um, he could be still the draft. That's just my opinion. But, Mike, some of you want to

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I was just gonna say like, I think that they do remind me a lot of the Celtics from a few years ago, where they are guard heavy. They're very, very small. But again, like, that was a team that you could rally yourself behind. I will also say that this isn't my sleeper. So I'm not skipping to the next segment. But I they did snag. His name is kita number 39. The guy's seven foot, two 248 pounds, averages 3.5 blocks a game and he has a seven and a half foot wingspan. He's a monster center. So now if he actually develops to be the guy, now you're dangerous because now you have a fast moving team with a with just a brick tower. For the five

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, they become the Utah Jazz, right? Yeah, that's, that's what's going on. So now I know I hear you Bobby like Sacramento was the West the Western Conference version of Detroit up to now. Right, right. You go to Sacramento your career is going to wilts away like that's just what's gonna happen. Um, boys I'm excited to see what happens you know,

Rob Kelly:

it even happened during the draft the buddy hield thing weeks ago I got buddy hield going to the Lakers like era all those guys all those guys just got traded to Washington. He's not going

Rayshawn Buchanan:

what Yeah, they would they would they would stay with they were so happy about that. But I'm just like sitting to me. I get it. Once again. They already got four guys back in return. I'm not giving a little Braun, a shooter of buddy hills caliber. Man. You better you buddy. Man. You better go to Cal COVID Garage because as long as you give you buddy hield like, man, I might listen, I get Oh, God. It amazes me how so I'm like, you're in the same. You're in the same state. You're in the same conference. Like, like, Yo, I might judge Jeff Peachtree I don't know Jeff, he said over there. But I might if he is he should be rolling over in his in his grave. What are you doing? I wouldn't. I've never traded with the ladies as I'm giving you a second round pick. Or cache hit ratio by giving you a guidance a top 10 shorteners league. Are you dumb like what are we? What are we doing? What are we doing? But you know, it's cool. It's like it's whatever but yeah, yeah, Sacramento Yeah, they they definitely have have a lot to iron out but gave you a Michaud they may have nine out problems. But David Mitchell is not one of my pain. Um, so here's how the JC but yeah, so but Mike, you know, since you, you know, you kind of touched on it, you say you're not gonna jump into it. But we'll just come to you now, you know, who is someone that you feel is going to be a sleeper in this draft?

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, I don't know if you can call him a sleeper because I talked to him. I talked about him before. But I think Chi Jones, I think he will be he has the potential to be the most influential pick of this draft. And I think it's just because of where he's going. And like I said, who's already there. But Charlotte cup themselves a legitimate big man that can start day one. That will be that we post in 10 points, five rebounds, couple blocks, again as a rookie already right off the bat. And I think with a pairing You know that they have with, like I say with rosier with with Hayward ball. It's just it's a hard it's a hard guy not to love. I also, I, you know, I'm a big guy. I do love. Was it Josh Ghibli from his OKC? I think he has, I think I think I think he has the potential to be a pretty big deal. And in this draft too, but you know, gun to my head. It's sky Jones. I just that man, you will remember him five years from now and we will talk about him the way that we talk about, you know, some of the most prolific stars in the league right now that fell outside the top 1015.

Rob Kelly:

So, I'm gonna, I don't know if I can actually call him a sleeper, because he was the second pick in the Draft. But Jalen green. I really feel like it's going to be a top tier player in the NBA within five years. A Jalen greens so good, man. I don't know if you've watched his highlights. But I feel like a lot of people don't know who this dude really is. Because he's been in the G league. But he can he's a baller, bro. He's a passer. He's a defender. He can shoot he can do everything that you would want a guard to do. He tried to say who who I could compare him to honestly, you know what? He's like a Bradley Beal bro. He's someone that like you can you can rely on on both ends of the floor every single night. And he's going to end up being 2526 points a game score in this league. And that's a guarantee from so Jalen green even though he's the second pick in the draft is the sleeper because I think he's gonna end up being the best player in Israel.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I mean, he would agree with you. I mean, he I think he had a quote the other day and he was like, yo, like put me on any team anywhere. Like I'm going to get a bucket like straight up so so he's clearly confident it's up as he should be on himself to live live up to because the last few number two picks have been really good. So whether it was john Moran or he also like he also he got he got some he got some work to cut out. He has some work cut out for him for sure. But um, for me, I'm going to go a little further back in the first round, like 19 pigs back where Bobby had got to go with the kid from Tennessee Keon Johnson that got drafted by the Clippers I believe he is someone that I thought was gonna go top 15 he didn't he slid for some reason I don't know what happened on in the draft camp. Maybe he didn't interview as well or he didn't his measurables weren't as good. Um, but I think he's someone that you know, is going to be a steal for the clippers. I'm going to get some spot minutes him and satellite tears man was huge for them and this year's playoffs. And I think he is also someone that could come in as a rookie. And in make an impact when you know, kawhi has to get harassed. And we're Paul PG has to get rest. So I think that him getting him at 21 was huge. And you know, I said if it's Hi, Lou, you know, players that boy, I think today, I think they'll they'll see something special in him. And you know, they'll be very surprised, or the league will be very surprised and probably upset that he didn't do anything to draft him a little bit higher.

Unknown:

He's gonna he's gonna live with trellis for a while. Right? Like he has flashes of that.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, just long you don't check out coaches. But other than that, um,

Rob Kelly:

you know, I like I like

Rayshawn Buchanan:

God, I don't I don't know, man. So I'm just I'm just being a jerk. But no, no, Mike Mike your right arm he definitely. I'm sorry. I know. I say things so casually. My bad. But no.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, no, it was it was like 1997 and the timbre of sucked. It's okay.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

No, I know. It won't tell us a PJ Carlesimo. So it's on that, but I just think that um, yeah, he did that is that is a good compare that that's a good comparison. Um, so yeah, we'll see. I think that the Clippers would love for him to become the prequel. Because now that means you can kind of move also people to kind of let him be more of a guy. So Bobby was the last one before we go into some of this talk at the end.

Rob Kelly:

So I don't even know from he was even from Turkey. Our parents sagen this guy is he has Shades of sabonis he's got shades a canter. He's, he's that European senator, but he's the best version of to me. He's the version of that with the highest upside that we've seen in a long time. He's got to be better than Cantor. He's got to be better than that when shooting this this guy's really good rockets gave up two first round picks to go up and get him at 16 so they obviously have a high grade on him. And we all know Houston loves those European centers and actually foreign centers so I think that's a big sleeper right there. Watch out for him. He's gonna be he's gonna be something good in this league. And we can develop that defense a little more. As long as it doesn't turn into an Enos Kanter

Michael Marcangelo:

or a Darko Milicic or a doc Yeah, so

Rayshawn Buchanan:

well and and his cancer was the first five years of his career was pretty good. He He's a walking double double. So it's not like, you know what? He's

Rob Kelly:

just trashed defensive. He's He's

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Oh, sure, sure. But I mean, yeah, but that's also Yeah, he's just he's just slow as hell. Right? Exactly. He's, he's supposed to physically slow. And that's the problem. So yeah, so hopefully, you know, just continue to work on a lateral movement. And, you know, we'll see what happened. So you know, that that cuts it for the MBA job. So let's get back to the south. And so we had to, I had to give credit to our executive producer. Because when we talked about this in our pre show meeting, he talked about, you know, we have to make this a segment. So we are we're going to call it with this. So Marcus smart man, you know, Number Six Pack overall in 2014. You know, there hasn't been something that has more love hate with the fan base, I think the last six years than him. So as you know, as we approached our mark, so I don't want to go too crazy with this. But, you know, Mike, I'll start with you. But, you know, is this the end of the market smarter experience?

Michael Marcangelo:

I think it is, and I think he's the latest report out there is that he's looking for a four year $80 million extension. Sorry. Oh, god, I'm like good for you to go get your money. But like don't if you're the Celtics don't do that you don't like I love you, Marcus. I love you for all the things all the good things that you do on on the court. I'm equally as frustrated of all the bad things that you do. I hate that it takes him 16 shots a night to find a shot. I understand it. I hate it. It's just one of those things as a Celtics fan that you know. But I think the tenacity that he played, that's the tenacity that he played defensively is going to be hard to to replicate. Right? It's almost like you could feel the mood change in a game when he when he entered when he when he when he's when he took the floor. But I mean, my opinion, you know, I don't what do I know? He ain't a $20 million you player. Like he's just not. So I think it's over from Boston, but like, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Marcus.

Rob Kelly:

After seeing ball go to the balls tonight. I just don't know what what other option is out there for a starting point guard Unless Unless What happened? What I said happens. And Chris dog ends up being a starting point guard on this team. what he's done, he actually he's done a two or one. Oh, he's, he's he's a one right now. I feel like that's the only other chance that we have of seeing smart leave. I think smart stayed. I think ball was the place that smart was gonna go. And if we were going to get rid of smart, I think it was going to Chicago. And now that that's off the table, I just don't know. You know, it's the same thing like Aaron Gordon last year, like, I don't know, I don't see the move out there that warrants moving. You know, I mean, like, Listen, I understand, but like, what, what do you unless we're bringing back a starting point guard and return. He's really our best option to run that point. Because we've seen it Listen, I know. He sucks. I can't Oh, no, he's shooting sucks. His shot selection sucks. But we've seen that change when he plays point guard when he starts to point guard to use a different guy. So I mean, I just don't know what other better options are out there at this point without ball. I would love to see them move him for someone else.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

But if he's under control, um, then yes, that makes sense. But that's the problem. He's not under fucking control. That's the problem.

Rob Kelly:

Mike wants to whisper Go ahead.

Michael Marcangelo:

I hear everything that you just said. Like he you know, it makes sense for him to be the starter. Will you pay him $20 million a year? Are you said that he's worth that? Because he isn't.

Rob Kelly:

He's forcing your hand to give him that extension this year? No. Yeah, you got to do something. But I I don't think as you're doing that. I don't think it is.

Michael Marcangelo:

I cannot I came out 20 minutes ago.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Well, that's Yeah, he's he's he's drunk. But anyways. I would I would I would give stickers. Yeah, he's not just saying when he's hungry or shooting the basketball is not the same. Um, I would I would give him when Mark is more senior got last year from the clippers. Four years. 64 mil? I'm comfortable with that.

Michael Marcangelo:

I'm fine with that.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I'm comfortable with 60 mil a year cuz that's about maybe a 20 million increase will raise that now. Okay, you know, it's again, he's longer saying yourself that give them a little bit of a raise. Fine. That's cool. Or even give the four years with the with the option after three. Yeah, there's a team player. I'm cool. I'm I'm perfectly fine with that. But like I said, we're not but listen at 48 just got 73 from New York. We'll miss you. And you he's not better than that before. Anyway. So we're going to give you several more mills and we want to get funny and funny as three more inches taller, his shoe better. Like the only thing that Morgan smart does better than 48 is is a is defend. And that was and that was kind of shoddy this past year.

Michael Marcangelo:

It's his measurables All right. That's what that's what that's what NBA NBA guys will tell you is that his measurables are that much better than everyone else which would which may justify 20 million and I'm not advocating for that. Listen, I think if you want to get hit If you want to give him like he said for for 64 all in if you want to do five for 75 I could do that too. But he's not 20 million a year he just he and I'm sorry I just don't I don't I'm not here anyway we have too many things that we know what happens when he's on the court with Jaylen and and Jayson there it's great. It's not a championship though so we need to build towards that so I mean, if you want to stay for less sure, but do not give him 20

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, I mean, I know they gave him like four years 15 two years ago right? So I'm like Okay, that's it to me that's one thing and that's why I'm cool with the the little slight uptick every Okay fine, but this is the thing right? Like I've gone back and forth on this because like I think we all know Leo star and Leo Stein what to do and I know Leo a Leo of you here does I know now I know how you feel about marketing. So I know you're probably you'll probably laugh your ass off as you listen to this.

Rob Kelly:

The amount of Facebook posts we've gotten tagged in over the

Rayshawn Buchanan:

years Yeah, yeah, I know he despises Marcus with every fiber of his being so as my our friend john, they can't stand them. Um, marker smartlife said went under control was fine. I said that we get that. And he is. He is RJ marine. He is he passes like him. He defends like him when he's on when Marcus was locked in defensively. Marcus Marcus shut down anybody in this league? I firmly believe that, um, he's just as good as other Oklahoma State buddy Tony Allen, I firmly I firmly believe that without a doubt, you know, but it's just like once again, it's because we have one. That's why we no longer tolerate markets. You can rest assured if Golden State had not ever had not ever won, or they only won one time in 2015 j Mr. Griese as would have been out of there because when you cost a team a when you cost a team a game because you you know you're kicking someone enough so you're young and a referee you're yelling at a coach like or you're yelling at their best player and pushing them out the fucking towel like that if Marcus Brown was the reason why Kyrie left oh my god you imagine a murderer was reason it left you know the bad way that's all I'm saying. So it's just like to me like It's like he is our dream our dream but because we haven't won we we held him because it's just like yo like you're like said we just had a few seconds of like you're not you're not that guy power. But you know but like who knows maybe maybe he may figure something out of him that Brad Brad did not get and who knows we're gonna find out how to train him now he can't

Rob Kelly:

go for for at with markers right now because that takes it that takes you that takes you right out of the running for everything that you're setting this team up for and that's 2022 free agency and 2023 free agency you can't you can't do that. Jesus is as well.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

So for our listeners the reason why we're saying Jesus is not because we're

Rob Kelly:

that we're Bradley that's when Bo is a free agent that's when curry becomes a free agent that's when all these guys that like listen, I would I would froth at the mouth with the possibility they could be a Celtic if Marcus smart takes that away from me by them giving him 20 mil and then shoots those goddamn threes I swear to fucking god I'll still watch the team but I just

Michael Marcangelo:

can't say championship DNA

Rayshawn Buchanan:

no listen that listen that that makes complete complete sense. But I mean Listen, man, like

Rob Kelly:

let's take that away from me Mark

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, please. We're still gonna watch this like we will watch begrudgingly if that's the case, but um, listen, just listen, just bracket to what you've been doing. You're trying to create financial flexibility to keep doing that. If you just need to sign Patty mill for the mid level do that. Three years 27 No, I'm cool with that three to 27 remote from Patty for Patty Mills. Um I would I would bring back Rudy Gay to I would say Rudy game I was telling him you know, it's like a two year deal.

Michael Marcangelo:

What about what about it?

Rob Kelly:

Bring i t so yeah,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

so yeah, so that's that's the that's the last question I want to ask. Right so um, you know the kangaroo the fourth right. You know, I T time. You know, should he be back in the house uniform? So, Bobby, I'll start with you. As you said he'd be back in his office uniform,

Rob Kelly:

bro. Not only should he be but it seems like the Celtics players also think he should be Jaylen brown the other night on Twitter shared the Isaiah Thomas scored 61 points with just like, let's go. He's got to come back. Man. He looks ready. He looks good. I got it against him for your competition. But no one was a bad hip is going to be able to drop 61 at any basketball game ever was that I have a pinched nerve in my neck and I can barely goddamn podcast right. Okay. So like like, let's be real here. Isaiah is back. It's time was in Danny's gone. That's that's that's who fucked Isaiah over before Brad's gonna be like Isaiah, man. You're your hero here. Come home, bro. Okay,

Michael Marcangelo:

you can't sorry I'm not a tangent. You can't say he fucked Isaiah over he got Kyrie Irving in return. You do that 11 times out of 10

Rob Kelly:

that no that's a great a great no no doubt about it Isaiah Thomas gets traded for Kyrie

Rayshawn Buchanan:

though he was wrong though he was it you're right but he was wrong he definitely

Michael Marcangelo:

not really that I mean he was wrong with the fit. I mean, it has never been the same since he left he has literally never been the same. He has not played a full season since he left

Rob Kelly:

that tration gone through honestly that they should have avoided that trade they should avoid it because I can't I can't believe he pat i don't know how they got him to pass a physical if they like shot him with some stem cells in that hip or something like that.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I just want to turn this around on you on your way for just the last minute of your show. Would you be comfortable with Kristen and it as you're starting as your two point guards?

Rob Kelly:

No. But you know preacher to your printer to

Rayshawn Buchanan:

know I'm saying but no but even when you Avraham know like I put Craig out there before that combination I'm sorry

Rob Kelly:

so I don't

Rayshawn Buchanan:

know I'm sorry I can't like you say if you tell me if we wake up tomorrow or some point this weekend you hear done or not done or not the bosses others assign Patty Mills to a three year deal for XYZ I'm happy because that's someone that can shoot he said he said no you're what the what the system because obviously it's going to become a percentage Tonio then if you want to come and bring in it to cool but Patty Mills to me should be the starter we don't need him to be a show you Patty Mills that's the problem. We still we still want those the star guard. We don't need that right now. Get someone that could compliment Tatum and brown that if they kick it out, and he's opening the corner three he's going to get the corner three Penny Mills is going to knock that down. Purchase is going to knock that down. It was all gonna knock that down on Chris Ducker penetrate kick it back out to our house my show two three so that's that's what you need. Right? You don't need um, you know, you don't need another star guard to come here right now. Would it be nice Of course it would like out of like Kyle Lowry, but he's going down to South Beach. I don't blame him. He's getting older. He played he played lashing and Tampa I pay Kyle. I understand. No taxes, bro. No taxes. Kyle go down and go down to snappers go down to finger lickin there's a lot of great restaurants down there go to. There's a lot of great places brother like please, and enjoy yourself. I don't blame you. Um, but yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not here for nostalgia act. And you know, that was my best Mike Mark Angelo impression. So all of that went went well. But yeah, I appreciate it. Like, I

Rob Kelly:

gotta go by and you bring Isaiah and it's not to play with. It can't be with the intention to play more than 10 minutes a night. That's how you got to see that. And if he ever outperforms that, but that's what that's

Rayshawn Buchanan:

it can't happen like that. But his his his he's gonna be a problem in that locker room. He was only playing 10 minute I'm saying right now because

Rob Kelly:

the 10 year contract last year, so I feel like he would just want to get in, right?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I feel you But no, but it's different. as normally as it was Denver. He feels that he is a part of this new era. I'm telling you, if you say to him, Hey, you're gonna play a 10 minute I'm telling you. He's gonna flip tables. He's gonna go crazy. I'm telling you. So that can't happen.

Rob Kelly:

That's when you tell him like, bro, just just like when you came over back in 2011. Show us why you should be playing more than that. And now we have an underdog mentality on the Celtics again, boom.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

He was getting 18 a night when he got here and a baby. Yeah, he was. He was hoping he was hoping he was hoping when he got to Boston, and it really was like, Oh shit, like, this guy is better than anybody we have on the team. Let's just keep let's keep him let's keep on let's get on his back. And that's what they did. So you know what, we'll close it with that. So any any final words? Would we get out of here?

Michael Marcangelo:

Ah, unrelated the next got a lot better today.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, no, I agree.

Rob Kelly:

A lot of body a lot of money. No. Yeah.

Michael Marcangelo:

Is it a nerlens Noel and, and M 48. That's Yep. That's those are good deals. So they were already good team last year so good for them that they might they might be a force or they might it might implode? I don't know what the next but

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I don't know by February.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, give Can I give one? I shouldn't say this right now. My biggest take that I feel like is like a 5% chance of happening. Can you imagine? Me a dhoka and kawhi Leonard reunited in a Boston Celtics uniform.

Michael Marcangelo:

What are you doing?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

So wait so no we're doing we're still out there. We're still going to close because he decided his option could he's gonna resign with clippers but um, if that's the case, then obviously jello brown would have to be gotten that deal. Obviously that was a sign of trade immediately that

Rob Kelly:

we had to sign a trade he's a free agent.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

There's there's no way He's come there's no there's no way that could fit now let's just say you take him over getting bill and you just have a bigger lineup you know then let's let's talk but I just I don't I just don't see that happening but let's say we won't go into that rabbit hole because we do we have to. Yeah, we got I got to close out so. So for Mike Mark Angelo Roby cable Kelly, our executive producer Craig D'Alessandro. I'm your host, Sean Buchanan, and we'll see you next time. Peace