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NFL Predictions: 2020 NFL Playoff Team Draft

NFL Predictions: 2020 NFL Playoff Team Draft

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On this episode of MISSING THE POINT: It's time to decide a winner in our 1st annual NFL Prediction Game...But there's one problem...THE TEAMS ARE TIED! So it's time for The Bonus Round!

On this episode, the teams will draft through all the teams in the 2020-2021 NFL Playoffs to try and find the team that will be left standing. Will the top-seeded Kansas City Chiefs and Green Bay Packers steamroll through the competition, or could an NFL Wild Card team like the Cleveland Browns or the Washington Football team pull off a shock upset?

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Craig D'Alessandro:

This episode of missing the point is being brought to you by box Oh crafts, save 15% off your first holiday box at checkout with the promo code MTP. That's box o crafts.com. On this episode missing the point, it's time to pick a winner for our first annual NFL prediction game. But there's a slight problem. So we're going to a bonus round and it's time to draft the best teams in this year's NFL playoff field. It's Mike and Bob versus Joe and Ray in the final matchup of the season. And there's always fights between Mike and Bobby are guaranteed all that coming up next. But first some housekeeping missing the point is a one hour podcast recapping the biggest stories in the world of sports with the New England flavour. The show notes and transcript from today's episode can be found in the description box below, as well as on our website, www dot MTP show.com. If you're new to the show, consider subscribing. It's the easiest way to see when we publish new episodes. We are an apple podcast, Spotify, Google and wherever you get your podcasts, be sure to rate us and leave a review of any of our shows. We always appreciate your feedback. Also, be sure to follow us on all of our social medias. All of our links will be in the show notes and check it out brand new website WWW dot MTP show.com that's MTP show.com. And now this is missing the point, Episode 29. But it's all relative.

Dave Clarke:

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls Welcome to missing the point a cacophony of pleasure for your auditory receptacles like none other. I am Captain cuckoo bananas himself DK sizzle Dave Clark and I have the pleasure of hosting this journey of insight and discussion into the successes and failures of the various teams of the National Football League. Those of you who are new welcome. We hope you stick around. Those of you who have been with us for a while know about the laborious narrative we've been keeping up for the entire season. That is our NFL record predictions. Well, week 17 is almost completed Sunday Night Football is currently going on as we record this, but enough games have been played that we can declare a regular season winner and the winner is nobody it's 1212 a dead heat. So in the spirit of competition, we've decided to carry this thing over into the playoffs. That's right. These two teams are going to take their points, put them in their pockets and run with them jiggling around in their pants right into the playoffs. Tonight. It's the playoff draft pew pew pew pew pew before we get into this inevitable slugfest, and before I explain the rules, let me roam around the stage introduce you to my hard rocking amigos that will be making up this fun foray into footballs final feast. Up first is Mike Mark Angelo. On one of our previous podcasts, Mike declared that the Cleveland Browns were a better football team than the Pittsburgh Steelers. Seeing is that is obvious tomfoolery. I entered into a wager with him about the Steelers Browns game that finished off their season today. Despite the Steelers playing the practice squad and still losing by two they still lost. So now I have to do my forfeit. Mike has prepared me the following 100 words to read out for you folks back home. So here it goes. Hello everyone. My name is Dave Clark, and this is my confession. Golf is a far more disciplined and complex sport than soccer. It isn't a popular opinion. However, it is a fact. The strain that driving a ball 300 yards for 25 plus years puts on your body is a type of toughness that is not comparable to any other sport. Which is why I'm here to say that Phil Mickelson is by far more of an athlete in any soccer player in the history of the sport. Also, my last confession is Brett did intact screw Brett HBK for life. How'd that feel Mike? Thanks for the typo at the end so I didn't have to call the that last thing effect okay. We have a double or nothing on the line in the playoffs. So look out for Mike's forfeit in the coming weeks. Moving right along to Mike's partner on the NFC team a man once praised as that drunk guy over there that won't stop seeing Jessie's girl ladies and gentlemen is the real BK Bob Kelly Bobby in three words or less. What are your favorite four words in sports? All right. Wow, you really messed that one up. Okay over to the FCC, the only man in missing the point that has created life. Unfortunately, he lost the form to patent it and the credit for the wildly successful board game went to Milton Bradley. So he's stuck here. Ladies and gentlemen, Broadway Joe Malkin, Joe in three seconds or less. Please describe your favorite moment as a member of missing the point go

Joe Malkin:

arguing with Bobby. Great Joe's the only one who succeed so far. Finally, a man who famously declared ladies and gentlemen classes in session. I am Hollywood Ray Hollywood walay and it doesn't matter what you say. I'm here here to lay it down today to which stung la onlookers declared Sir, this is an Arby's it's the man himself. rayshawn Buchanan Ray, tell us in exactly five year words where you were when Kennedy was shot, and just so you know This is being recorded by us from for law enforcement. So you know, get it right.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I was at the grocery store.

Dave Clarke:

Okay. All right. Well, we're gonna check that out and see if it holds up. And lastly, but certainly not leastly we have the best producer in the game, the man that makes this all happen. And what I'm going to spare this this terrible, this terrible forfeit revenge that Mike has made me spur on everybody. Craig D'Alessandro. Craig, how are you today?

Craig D'Alessandro:

Tired.

Dave Clarke:

Craig's tired, everybody, but we're not we're ready to kick it. So as I said before, it's the playoff preview, which is the playoff draft, the rules are simple, we're going to flip a coin to see who goes first. And the team that's going to draft the team, they think that the the team that wins is going to draft the team that they think is going to go farthest in the playoffs, right. So say for instance, we flip the coin heads is going to be AFC tails is going to be NFC. And once that happens, say they pick the Chiefs or the bills, which is actually probably what the first selection is going to be. If that team only gets through a wild card, they can't win a wild card point because they've already like you know, won the first round, as we discussed before the show, if they get it all the way to the Super Bowl, they get 10 points. If they just get into the Super Bowl, they get five points. If they win the divisional round, they get three points, and any wildcard victories one point so we're just going to do a little serpentine draft back and forth. Let the guys pick. Important to note that there's no conferences anymore. So is why we split up AFC and NFC beforehand, you can draft whatever team you want doesn't matter just about how far they're going to go. So you can play strategy that way, it's going to be super fun. I certainly can't wait. The people have heard enough of me talking at this point. So heads is going to be AFC tails is going to be NFC, here we go. The team that goes first is going to be the NFC team. So kicking it over to Bobby and Mike. You guys tell me who's your first pick in the draft?

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, we got two minutes on the clock. Yeah. Oh, yes. I'm sorry, I

Dave Clarke:

totally forgot about that part. Everybody's getting timed. So it's going to be exactly two minutes for you to discuss. You might not need the whole two. But that's totally fine. But everybody gets two minutes. And then the other team has a minute to talk to me or make fun of you or just like go through the grocery list, whatever they have a minute to do whatever they want to have that happen. So starting the timer, Bobby and Mike. Go.

Rob Kelly:

It's a no brainer pick here. Mike is the chiefs. Right? Yes. So I mean, like did did their last few weeks scare you enough that we shouldn't make them the first pick.

Michael Marcangelo:

There's only one team in the AFC that I think can beat the chiefs. And it's the bills, right? So I mean, if you want if you want to start off with the chiefs, I think that's a it's a good thing. It does smell a little bit like this and upset could could happen. Right? This is you know, I know he just wants to remember this is still just Andy Reed. And I don't I don't put a lot of weight behind him. You know, no pun intended. But

Rob Kelly:

I the only thing is, is that feel like we're in the position right now with that first pick. It's like when you have that franchise quarterback if you don't draft him, are we going to be sitting here in the Super Bowl via goddamnit? I can't believe we passed up to cheese.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, you're talking to a patriots. And we know we know a lot about this draft picks. So I think we should just go with the Chiefs dude.

Rob Kelly:

All right. Well, we're going to chiefs first, right? And the inaugural draft.

Dave Clarke:

All right, first picking the inaugural playoff draft and missing the point the NFC team, which I guess I should just call you, Bobby Mike now because you're not really the NFC team anymore. Bobby and Mike choose the Kansas City Chiefs. No surprise there took him exactly one minute. What do you guys think john? Ray, let's talk about it for a minute. Would you have chosen the Chiefs? Would you? Are you happy the bills have fallen to you or even we don't even know you're gonna pick the bills. What do you think of that first pick?

Joe Malkin:

I mean, it's the right pick. Right, right. I mean, that's I think that's kind of the the best team in the league and the regular season record wise and Bobby seems to like to harp on team's performances in the last five weeks of the season. I was surprised he didn't want to go with the Packers with that mentality. But right What are your thoughts?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I'm actually surprised he didn't pick the saints. You know, I can hear him now. They freakin won nine games in a row this year. What are you guys talking about? I'm I'm surprised you didn't do that. But I mean, no one was Oh, Drew Brees. Yeah. Yep. You mean to tell me they could go in there when would take some help? Who can't play quarterback? Are you kidding me? But anyways, listen, I'm gonna choose for the obvious pick, you know, all jokes aside, I hadn't gone 15 to one and every show that we've done talking about Kansas City, so, um, has you guys not picked them? We definitely would have picked them at number one. So you know, they they should they're always our favorite. So there's no there's no shock there.

Dave Clarke:

All right, moving on from the Joe and re declaration that Bobby is living rent free in their heads. We have bills, Steelers, Titans, ravens, browns and cold still left on the board. You guys have two minutes to discuss which one you're going to take and why it's the bills. And go ahead. Two minutes starts now.

Joe Malkin:

So prior to this season we did our prediction show for this entire thing. And the team formerly known as the NFC team had a team member who ripped apart one team in the NFC north and said they would finish six and 10 in their 30. Late 30s. How old is he? 38 years 3037 Oh, he's not washed up yet because he's not 3038 So, so that's Aaron Rodgers is that he was washed up and wasn't gonna do anything up but now the packers are the number one seed in the NFC and Ray, why don't why don't you give our pick for the for the first round?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, so what the first pick for Team Jonah Ray, team Hollywood Broadway. Just came with that on the fly. We were going with the Green Bay Packers 48 touchdowns later, you're looking at the MVP, at least in my opinion. And you know, more importantly, you know you to laugh at my premier wrong even though he owned up to it, but just had to put up there one more time, you know, so, wow.

Dave Clarke:

Oh, you know, and actually, it's a good it's a good call, because I immediately thought to myself, I wonder if they're just gonna go the bills because the bills have been so electric and I thought those are gonna be wanting to but the Packers, you know, you get two points for getting to the Super Bowl. So it's, you know, it's a nice safe pick. And the Packers have looked good for the last few weeks. What do you guys think?

Michael Marcangelo:

I think that I think the packers are they obviously they defied me right, but just fine. But they are the most overrated team. Actually one of the most overrated teams in this playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is 10 and eight in the playoffs. He's not he's just not he's mediocre. He's average.

Rob Kelly:

I'm very happy that they just took the Packers because me Mike would have killed each other over this. I really think the packers are strong this year. I've seen Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs. He's broke my heart a few times,

Michael Marcangelo:

because you're a Cowboys fan tube.

Rob Kelly:

But it was in the playoffs was it? So

Michael Marcangelo:

So what happened? What happened once that happened once it happened once, twice, twice, twice, twice in 15 years? I'm sorry.

Rob Kelly:

So I'm just saying. I'm very happy that they took them so we didn't have to fight about the Packers.

Michael Marcangelo:

And yet here we are fighting with the Packers.

Rob Kelly:

It doesn't matter though. squats or whatever.

Dave Clarke:

I do. think it was a decent piece of strategy though, right? Because, like I'm not a numbers whiz. But now they've kind of backed you into a corner because when we go back over to you, you might want to choose the bills, but neither of them you know, you're kind of you're kind of you're kind of like snickered a little bit in the corner because the bills and the Chiefs might play each other like the both of them can't go to the Super Bowl. Right? So do you do you choose the bills now let's let's start talking about that. Are you going to take the bills you have in the AFC left you have the bills, the Steelers the Titans, the Ravens, Brandon, the Colts in the NFC left, you have the saints, the Seahawks, whoever wins, the world's tallest midget division in the giants, or the Washington football team? Sunday Night Football still being decided the Buccaneers the Rams or the bears? So who who do you take it? Who's next?

Rob Kelly:

You sit back and listen to a corner. And you guys I love this. But honestly, it's hedging our bet. That's what this is. And we've taped a bill that's hedging that we think the Chiefs might could possibly lose to the bills. So we'd still get that extra five points on the AFC side.

Michael Marcangelo:

So do you think that the that Brady in the Bucks are going to lose the football team or to the Giants? Is that why you don't want to touch them? Because I think Brady's gonna go further in the playoffs than anyone in the offseason.

Rob Kelly:

I think they get that first one. But who, who they're going to get after that?

Michael Marcangelo:

So it'll be what mattered to me. I mean, what hopefully I pray it's Aaron Rodgers in the Green Bay Packers, I pray because they'll just go in a Lambo and beat the rest of the game.

Dave Clarke:

So yeah, cuz it's an interesting situation, right? Like you could hedge your own bed by taking the bills. Or you could, you could, you could decide that you don't believe in the Packers. So you could take either the saints of the Bucs or maybe the Seahawks to say, where we think the bank is gonna get knocked down, and then those points will accrue on top of their first round pick. It's very interesting. So

Michael Marcangelo:

if I get a vote Bobby, which I don't know if I do, but I vote for the bucks, man, I because I just think they're gonna go further.

Rob Kelly:

I feel like that's like taking taking the guy who should be pegged, like in the 20s. Number four,

Dave Clarke:

it's like when Ray chose the San Francisco defense first overall in our fantasy football draft this year. I mean, I don't agree that it's like that. But you're that's what you're saying. Yeah,

Rob Kelly:

I'm all for the book. All right. I'm

Dave Clarke:

gonna need a choice here.

Michael Marcangelo:

Live a little bit. Just just make a take and stick with it. We're gonna stick with us until the end of the playoffs.

Rob Kelly:

You know what, dude? Fuck it. Second pick. Our second pick. Going with the Buccaneers. All right. What do you guys think

Dave Clarke:

they've chose the Buccaneers they're reacting to your pick. What is your assessment of the second overall pick by the Bobby and Mike team? the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? Good

Rayshawn Buchanan:

go. I mean, listen, I mean, I think today probably help change my opinion. I know Mike was sticking with them going 11 to five with our predictions. I think this this is where it lines up with that pick. Me 40 touchdowns. topic. You know, he's been special at times, you know, but my thing is with Mike Evans going down, does that change some things? So think is a good pick, I do think they can maybe get to the division around. I think at best they get to the NFC Championship game. But me, you know, it's a bold pick and you know, for the content because we need more of that. Who knows? Maybe it works out for them, but let's hope it doesn't.

Joe Malkin:

I said before the season that the Buccaneers weren't going to get to the Super Bowl, they wouldn't even get to the NFC Championship game. I'm gonna stick by that. I don't think they get to the division. I don't think they get out of the division around. I think they're electric. Bobby said it today in our discord that that offense is better with Ronald Jones in if he makes a mistake, he gets blackballed by number 12 and that becomes a problem we've seen it become a problem for them earlier in the season. I think things are starting to click for them but i can't i still I'm gonna stick by my take that the Buccaneers will knock it out of the divisional round so you might get a point from it but it's not gonna go much further than that. Wow.

Dave Clarke:

They really don't believe in you guys with that paint but it was bold Fortune favors the bold except for when you say that the Packers aren't going to be good in the regular season picks and you're betting against them again. So like let's see, maybe it'll work out Double or Nothing Vegas odds okay. Going on to the I keep wanting to call you guys the AFC team and it's all out the window the the Hollywood and Broadway, New York and LA team. You guys are yet to make your second pick. So tell me who it's gonna be.

Joe Malkin:

So I'm gonna reference the preseason predictions again here where Ray and Craig talked me into the Buffalo Bills, winning the AFC East and they did and they look good doing it. Josh Allen is getting better by the week is getting better by the season. I think Shawn McDermott is a better coach than people give him credit for. And what stefon Diggs is doing in Buffalo New York is absolutely incredible. And what a trade for those guys to get from Minnesota two years ago, so I think that kind of gives it away. But Ray, you can bring it home again because you're the one that talked us into it in the preseason

Rayshawn Buchanan:

with the second pick the Hollywood bro 18 select the Buffalo Bill. So we're circling the wagons. Josh Allen and that offense really has become Kansas City Light. And you know so Zack moss, Devin Singletary. You know, Diggs, Dawson Knox, and the defense for Trey white and gray Hughes. Like they they have a whole list of characters over there. Some of them have been together for a while too. So in that course is going to be around for a while. So we got we got them going pretty far. So riding with the bill circling the wagons, maybe.

Dave Clarke:

Wow, I love how this is working out because it's like a one team plays and attack the other team plays defense. We've got the chiefs, the Chiefs versus the bills and the Packers versus the bucks. What a great top four we've got going on here. Okay, this is really working out. I mean, this could potentially be the NFC Championship Game versus the NFC AFC Championship game. And you guys have all four teams in it like that. It'd be amazing. Let's hope that happens. For content for the listeners, guys. Okay, moving over to the reaction. Mike and Bobby, what do you got?

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, honestly, I think that the bills that they have like a ton of upside, I think that whoever picked them on your side that to win the AFC East. That was smart choice. The one thing that really concerns me is like if not because I'm glad you picked him because if they lose great, but one thing that concerns me as a fan is like Josh, Josh Allen is very Jacqueline Hyde in the playoffs dude, like he you just don't know what's gonna happen. McDermott's own, too. I know it's a different team. It's a different year. But they are scary. If they if they figure it out. They are I mean, they could beat the chiefs, but I don't think they're gonna figure it out.

Rob Kelly:

That's always been my criticism of Josh Allen is he's so Jacqueline. I remember last year in the playoffs. He did a lateral behind his back when they were driving for winning score like, but we haven't seen that Josh Allen this year. So if he doesn't show up the bills, definitely a scary team. And honestly, I I almost wish I would have picked them first. If

Michael Marcangelo:

you tell me not to. You told me not to you literally told me not to. I know. I

Rob Kelly:

know. I really do believe in the bills. I just think I think the Chiefs have another gear to go to but I wish we had honestly.

Dave Clarke:

I do. You're just full of self doubt. And and Mike is full of irrational self confidence. So it's always a great. I will say in Josh Allen's defense, I do know what you mean about the and it's not like my opinion matters because I'm hosting but I will say in his defense, he he has scores to every team he's played in primetime this year. So I think that's the best kind of litmus test for a playoff quarterback, the best one you're going to get in the regular season and he definitely has done that. So let's see how that goes. Okay, lots of really good teams still left on the board. Well, one or two. So in the AFC, we still have the C The Titans the Ravens the Browns are the Colts to choose from. In the NFC, we still have the Seahawks, the world's tallest midget winner, the Buccaneers the Rams or the Great Chicago Bears to choose from. So moving back over to the Bobby and Mike team, tell me what your third overall pick and rmtp playoff draft will be pleasing. Thank you.

Rob Kelly:

Like I'm gonna pitch something here. And it's something that I know rival like and that's I want our next peg to be the Tennessee Titans. Yeah, okay, good. Yeah, I I think the Titans are such a dangerous team coming out of the AFC if, if they can play up to their potential. I think they can beat anyone. I think Derrick Henry is probably the best running back I've seen in a very long time. 2000 yards today. So I'm just I really think if that defense can hold a team under 30 points, they have a chance to beat anyone.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, you know, Bob, I agree with this pick, but it's for the opposite reason. I just think the Ravens are trash. I think that I think that Lamar Jackson is one of the most overrated quarterbacks that we have in the league right now. And I think that that team is exactly what I call them. In the offseason, they're just paper champions. They're gonna lose again. Mike Revell knows how to beat them. He did it last year. I'll do it again this year. I love that.

Rob Kelly:

I love how we're getting rematch this year. That's awesome. But yeah, um, was it

Dave Clarke:

Titan? A very bold prediction. I think from the from the NFC team from the Bobby and my team. I'm glad I'm not on that team anymore because I would have vehemently disagree with that. I think that the Titans are pretenders even though I do like the Titans because I was a big Eddie George fan. From the Hollywood Broadway team. Let me get your reaction, guys. All right.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

So all right. It's, I mean, it's amazing how quickly we transform because I mean, my god a few weeks ago, the the amount of shade that you guys were throwing towards that team, and in more apparently, number 22. Derrick Henry was unbelievable. Um, yeah, but you didn't say much against it. So you're lumped in with it too. Um, he's, he's a beast. He's a beast. He's to me. It's amazing how some people thought like, Oh, it's gonna be, you know, this is kind of like a flash in the pan. Hell no, there's this. There's a problem of 632 50. That is a man amongst boys every time he runs the ball, and he's only 26 years old. So guess what? He doesn't know. Another two or three years, at least, I've dominated like this. So if tendency is on and he's on, he's the reason why they're going to get to where they go.

Joe Malkin:

Yeah, I kind of agree with that. I agree with both sides of it like, Tennessee's gonna do something. I really like what Ryan tannehill has become in Tennessee. As a game manager, they've put good receivers around them. And then of course, the catalyst is number 22. Right? Like, I mean, this guy, he's he shouldn't be able to run that fast, like physics, like like, like by biologically he shouldn't be allowed to run that fast. And, and he does, and he runs through people. I don't think it's a great pick, because I disagree with Mike Shakur. On the fact that the Ravens are trash. I think the Ravens are picking up steam when they need to, and they're coming back to the right spot. So I mean, I think Ray and I pretty much just said the same thing with a few things mixed in. But it just, it's a good pick, because it allows us more options.

Dave Clarke:

All right. Well, pretty agreeable there. I thought there'd be more pushback. I personally don't remember the last time running back. That, you know, went on three more years after they're 26 dominating. Well, I don't see Derrick Henry being dominant until he's 29.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I mean, most thing I can think of it, either.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, but I gotta get like two guys. They've done that. And also, we've always noticed not to get into a debate with you because I'm just here to facilitate but we've also noticed that once you get into the playoffs, the room acquisition starts to matter a little bit less. But here we are. Just to recap, Bobby and Mike have chosen now officially the chiefs, the Bucs and the Titans, Ray and Joe have chosen the Packers in the bills and are bound to tell me who the official third pick for their team is. Go ahead, gentlemen, pick number three.

Joe Malkin:

This was not easy. Right. Right. Like there's a lot of teams out there that are that are right, right up there.

Dave Clarke:

I can tell you who's left at that helps.

Joe Malkin:

No, no, no, we know, we know who's left. It's just a matter of deciding which one because now we get into the matchups of the the Baltimore against Tennessee. The you know, we could talk about Seattle against LA, and you can find reasons why each one of those teams is going to win. That's the beauty of the playoffs. Right? So I think though, Ray and I are both on the same page here with where we're gonna go and Ray, tell me why we're picking the team that we're picking.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

We're going with the team that has won five in a row, and that is the Lamar Jackson led Baltimore Ravens. It's amazing to me. How would you say the reigning MVP is overrated? Has he had some moments where he was part of the share? Absolutely. The demand catch COVID early in the season. also true. What was their schedule also messed up at times? That's also true. Um, says he says he came out that that bathroom in Cleveland, he took a shit on the Browns even taking us and everybody else ever since. So, you know, just just fall in line, Mike and Bobby, here come Baltimore and they're good. They're good. They're gonna do some big things come, come play on top of my opinion. Lamar Jackson gets his first playoff win against the Tennessee Titans.

Joe Malkin:

Yeah, this this team is on fire right now. And they're getting everybody back and everybody's healthy. And the defense is looking much better. I think this team is going to be a little bit different and they know they know what they're going up against. So as much as Mike rabl knows how to beat the Ravens john Harbaugh has been around the coaching the coaching culture a little bit longer than Mike Vrabel. And I think he was gonna get the upper hand.

Dave Clarke:

Wow, that was that was brave. It was definitely a don't take the best team left on the board situation but take, take a response to the other teams pick so brave and valid considering I think it was ridiculous the pig times in the first place. All right. So just a quick recap. Bobby and Mike have chosen the chiefs, the books, the Titans, Ray and Joe have chosen the Packers the bills and now the Baltimore Ravens. The teams that are left on the board are the Pittsburgh Steelers, which obviously surprises me, but I've been vehemently defending them all season and it doesn't look like anyone has any faith in them. So good. Good. Like to be the underdogs. The browns, the Colts, the saints, which is pretty surprising. The Seahawks, which is also kind of surprising the Rams and the bears all still left on the board. So moving moving back over, tell me your reaction. Tell me your reaction to that pick.

Michael Marcangelo:

Good. I mean, I'm happy to do that. Just one last point that they're gonna get. I mean, Lamar Jackson is open to in the playoffs. You got you guys are saying that they're picking up steam that they're, they're hot this year. They're 14 and two last year, or 13, and three, but they were the hottest team, one of the hottest teams in the NFL and they still get their asses handed to them in the playoffs because when it's not cutting time in the playoffs, and the routes are a little bit. They're a little bit better covered by the defense. Lamar Jackson cannot make the throws. He can't do it. He won't do it this year. So I'm really happy that you guys did that. It just one less thing to worry about on our side. Yeah,

Rob Kelly:

I completely agree with that. I think exactly why. We said Josh Allen's go to exactly how we will march not because every primetime game you've ever seen what Mark Jackson he shifts his pants literally. And also with his play, so I am very happy they just picked the Ravens seems unfair considering he's hasn't been in the league that long and he only ever shut his pants literally one time on primetime football so and he won that game but it's fine when you gotta

Joe Malkin:

go You gotta go.

Dave Clarke:

I got I got a lot of faith in Lamar Jackson. I don't know if necessarily this year but I think a guy like him one more year on I don't think it's such a bad pick for that reason. But moving on. We need to start off round number four. So gentlemen, it's there's a lot of great teams left on the board. Let me do a quick recap. So far, Bobby and Mike have picked the Chiefs bucks in the Titans. Right and Joe have pet picked the Packers the bills and the Ravens. There are four rounds left. Going into round four. Here are the teams left on the board in the AFC, the Steelers, the browns and the Colts are still left to pick in the NFC, the saints, the Seahawks, the winner of the worst division in football, the Rams and the bears are still left to pick. So start us off on round four gents.

Michael Marcangelo:

I think Bobby and I were in complete agreement on this one. It's the Seattle Seahawks. I think that they're a team that has been proven that they can make they can make an impact with at least in the first round of the playoffs. I think Russell Wilson has never been as good as he has. He has been this season before. They used to always depend on the defense and then maybe he could do something but now it's the ricin DK Metcalf show. And that defense is playing better. I like them smoking the Rams in the first round of the playoffs. So I think you know, Bobby unless you have anything left to add on that we were just gonna go with Seattle, the team to go with ya know,

Rob Kelly:

Seattle Seattle's next team for sure. I really believe Russell Wilson. I take if there's any quarterback who can lead our team to a Super Bowl cyclohydrolase him. So yeah, see ya.

Dave Clarke:

All right. The the ray and Joe team and he rebuttal to that Seahawks pick the groundbreaking Seahawks pick to start us off on round number four. Go ahead.

Joe Malkin:

Make sense, right. I think we all trust Russ. But, you know, his. His season has been interesting. I think it took a little while for them to get going as well. They've had some rough patches when they go up against good defenses and sometimes teams teams that are just plans that have planned well for them. They don't do well. And they get the Rams in this first round who they've already played twice this season. So that defense for the Rams His top notch. I don't think that's talked about enough, especially here on the east coast. I don't think we pay attention to it. As much as we should not only as a sports podcast but also as sports fans, because that is good and I think they can win. But they have to come prepared because that led fence is gonna come for some come for that ass.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

No, I mean, listen, we I think we all can agree about you know how we feel about Russell Wilson. That was definitely something you know, me and Joe talked about picking up the next few rounds. Russell Wilson's not the issue, though. Like my thing is, can Jamal Adams be that guy on defense? Can Carlos janhvi be that guy on defense? Right? So can you know can Pete Carroll muster up a good enough gameplan to get past LA and make another deep playoff run? Right? So Pete Carroll you owe you owe you owe the city of Seattle? You own Russell Wilson, right? You smacked you smack Denver all those years ago, you're literally one play away from going back to back. Right? So you owe you owe this city and this team on a deep playoff run and maybe two more but I just don't think what that defense do they maybe they'll get there. Mainly because they'll they won't be able to stop somebody when it matters the most. Yeah, speaking

Dave Clarke:

of what Pete Carroll hosts people, I would say prison. He's the most indebted to CEOs. marshawn Lynch a championship running carry. So moving over to back to rain. Joe, I'd like to hear who your fourth round pick is a lot of good teams left on the table. Who's it going to be guys?

Joe Malkin:

A lot of good teams left here, right? You have the Steelers, the browns, the saints, the Rams? And then you know you have the the lower seeds, which are the the Colts and the bears. I think I think we got to do it again. Because I really do have a lot of faith in this defense. I think this team is I think this is going to be the best game of the playoffs of the first round without giving it away. I really do think the Seattle la game is going to be the best of this first round. And that's why I think Ray Ray, I'll let you give your reasoning here in a second. But Ray and Joe Hollywood Broadway, we're gonna go with the Los Angeles Rams. of St. Louis.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

You know, ad got 99 problems of a second quarterback gave one. And we're gonna we're gonna find that out next week. Aaron Donald is the best defensive play I've seen at that position in a very long time. And he you know, he demands a double team every single time. And my high on Jared Goff No, but like, I feel like they have no pieces around them, you know, kingmakers out of Florida states had a really good year. I know. Could you turn into Eric Dickerson? I guess the Patriots few weeks ago, my God. But you know, I'm not gonna get emotional on the show. But, yeah, I mean, listen, you know, the Rams defense, like Joe said, has been phenomenal all year. And, you know, they know how to, they know how to get stops when they need to. So you know, that's why we're comfortable with that pick for LA.

Dave Clarke:

All right, Mr. Robert Kelly, Mr. Mike, Mark. Angela, what do you got to say about that? Frankly? unorthodox pic by the Hollywood and Broadway team?

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, that's a shock to me. there besides the OSI East winter, to me, the weakest team in the playoffs? I think Jared Goff is absolute garbage and is just bad at football.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, but man, like when McVeigh has his plays, like those first, like 10 plays of every of the first game of the half. They run them perfectly, dude. And it's it always works for whatever reason, but Jared Goff is is he ain't no sunshine. He's, he's not a great quarterback. He's, and that team just isn't as good as it was in their in their Super Bowl run. They did way better than we thought they were going to think we had him in six and 10. But I mean, Seattle. I mean, the only you know, they're our team. We picked Seattle. So I know there. I know, we're gonna win this one. I hope we're gonna win this one. But I just don't think that anyone on the Rams is good enough at all to make a deep run in the playoffs. Like, you know, are

Joe Malkin:

you home stick to your take.

Rob Kelly:

I know. I just I just feel like when it comes down to it, Jared Goff is going to let them down. Like you see with the defense, they're all hyped up. And then it just wears on them after three quarters of playing great defense, the quarterback just letting them down over and over again. And then that's when the big plays happen. And that's when the Rams lose.

Dave Clarke:

Interesting. Interesting. Yeah, I would say he left a lot of talent on the board there guys. But you know, that doesn't necessarily mean that what's on paper is going to be what happens in real life we've seen we've seen players in real life traps fall very deep and go on to have very successful careers. So maybe this punt was a good punt. Maybe you coffin corner them. Okay, let's go over to Mike and Bobby again. Tell me start off the fifth round of our playoff draft and tell me who you're drafting. Let me give the listeners at home. A quick recap. Who's left on the board from the AFC are the Steelers, the browns and the Colts who's left on The board for the NFC are the saints The winner of the NFC East which is still going on and the Chicago Bears so who you got guys number five

Michael Marcangelo:

good good Bobby tell me who you want to pick and I'll tell you all the reasons as to why I think it sucks

Rob Kelly:

okay so so I just because they're left on the board I feel like it's the best player available type thing and and that's why I feel like we should pick these things

Michael Marcangelo:

up you know on the board just because sock there Drew Brees is eight and eight in the playoffs like wait hold on, hold on.

Rob Kelly:

Wait out of all the teams left out of all the teams left they're the one that I feel most confident in that first round I'm sorry Do you okay I am but they're the most confident team of definitely getting one point

Unknown:

because don't just to me apologize to Mike you're about to tank your team.

Rob Kelly:

So I just feel like that's that's the safest bet because like I said that's the best player available if there's someone else that you feel passionately above them and you want to give me that reason I will gladly listen to it I just feel like it's best player available strategy

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I don't like what you're doing here because what you what what I what a normal person would say is why don't take the Steelers right because they're a better team. Because they because on paper they are but that would hurt all the arguments I've been making over the last seven weeks. What I will tell you is that Drew Brees is mediocre at best in the playoffs. eight and eight how many home games has he had in New Orleans? A lot how many circles has he been to one

Rob Kelly:

but you're doing but you're doing what I did with the Chiefs Who Who Who do you get over them?

Michael Marcangelo:

I would take let's see the Colts over them I would take the Steelers over them but I would take the Browns over all those people. But if you listen I you gave it to me for the Buccaneers so if you want I will This is yours. This is yours. But you own it. Remember five weeks from now this was your fucking pick you're sticking with it.

Dave Clarke:

So is that the pic Is it the New Orleans Saints and your team is between the saints and the okay well just pick one because we don't have

Rob Kelly:

yeah we're we're picking the cents.

Dave Clarke:

Okay great. So number five from the Bobby and Mike team is going to be Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints I really don't think that's such a bad pick Bobby honestly from my from my perspective, I mean

Unknown:

it's a value pick

Dave Clarke:

and there are about four or five better ones but it's not such a bad pick. Okay, moving on to the moving on to the reaction part of this what do you guys think? Was that a crazy pick? Mike? I didn't even like it.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Hey, listen if you want to go back to earlier in the show that we're doing right now you can hear my Bobby's take you know about their say so of course he's gonna pick the neural net to be one of his teams. But you know, I mean, listen, um, you know, Mike, you said the eight I'm pretty sure they're gonna become a nine you know, it's perfect nine, nine losses. Number nine for breezes. It just works hand in hand baby. So it doesn't matter if it's a Superdome the Mercedes Benz don't whatever Soldier Field though it doesn't matter where they are. They're going to lose. Um, I listen. I'm not high on them.

Unknown:

You don't say

Rayshawn Buchanan:

yeah, not not not at all. He just he doesn't get it done and once again you know it to me I don't I don't understand why people have so much faith in this man cuz he puts up so much numbers. That's great. But, you know, he's, he's, he's checked down Charlie. He cannot throw more than the five yards for the most part. So I I've seen him go home, come and see us and help us to come home like us on the couch. They're not going nowhere. So remember that, you know, but it is what it is. Go ahead, Joe.

Joe Malkin:

Yeah, Alvin Kamara plays. I the best thing they have gone forum is out there playing a team led by Matt naggy. And the worst thing they have going for them is they're playing against the bears defense. That bears defense is really good. I think Kamara is the the catalyst here if he is not allowed to play because of COVID the saints will lose that game. And it almost makes me wonder if we should just pick the bears with our next pick. But I will say thank you for leaving for the better for better teams on there. And the one that we're gonna pick

Dave Clarke:

Alright, good reaction there. It was mostly Ray laughing at you guys but moving on to Hollywood and Broadway picking their number five pick the second pick in the fifth round goes to you guys. So tell me who is it going to be and why is it the Steelers please for the love of god pick the Steelers. Go ahead. Right. We

Joe Malkin:

knew this was gonna happen right? We set up what we set up before we got on here. We set it earlier today. We've set it about 15 minutes before we started the show that this is exactly what was gonna happen. That really I think no matter where we picked this team, it was gonna fall to us and it seems like Mike is just following Bobby into into hell with with a couple of these picks because I honestly think this team should have been picked before the Buccaneers too. So maybe Mike's just driving the car with Bobby. But Ray tell them why we're picking the Steelers.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, so I mean, listen, regardless, the team has told me for so you So you want to call a song before with simians comedy. Once again. We've talked about this before. And so it always fits people's narrative like one week. It's like, Oh, you play it was in front of you the next week over soft. Um, I go with you play was in front of you. Ravensburger coming back after missing all of last season has been great for most of the year. The emergence of you know, well, if GeoGebra stopped dancing, and just do what he does, he is a dance on the field and not great dancer, though. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Great. doesn't love it. But he said this in the end zone, as opposed to dancing on the 50 yard line before the game, just saying so sorry. Sorry. Liam is just a fact. Um, so he used to do that. But I mean, you know, they have a lot of weapons there. And although I do not trust saints, contractors, like I said, Jerome Bettis is not walking through that door. Neither is Franco Harris. You know, who I should have remembered during the the game, but I'm not gonna we're not gonna go back into that. But, uh, yeah, to me, they have enough up is there and that defense is really good. Like, you cannot be a top defense, and think that you don't have the chance to at least get to the AFC Championship game. So to me, it just made it easy for us to pick the Steelers, especially because we knew that Bobby was going to be you know, against that. So that makes it all the more fun.

Joe Malkin:

And Bobby should know that teams that don't have their starting running backs due to COVID usually don't play very well. So the saints are probably going to have the same fate. But the Steelers who do have James quarterback even though he's not phenomenal. The Steelers will definitely come back and beat the Browns next week after that. But

Rayshawn Buchanan:

But remember, running backs don't matter.

Joe Malkin:

Well, right running backs don't matter. So sorry. So we'll talk about the four the four wide receivers and the number one so we're gonna

Dave Clarke:

move over to the Bobby and Mike team for reaction. So you guys can stop spinning your wheels on the other side. Go ahead.

Michael Marcangelo:

There's a lot to unpack there. The one thing I will say is that I said that the running back would never be the reason why a team would win the Super Bowl. We all agreed besides rayshawn we're all still right. So that's That's just a fact. I also said that the team that was 11 and oh was just like comparable to the 2019 patriots win eight know that? We're not a very good ain't no team, right? Yeah, that finished one fourth, that's great. But you left out the part that they started 11 and fucking Oh, which meant that they went one and four and the last five. They're not doing well. But it's fine. Whatever. You guys can have them. We didn't want them. We didn't want them. So we're glad that you haven't, because it's really going to play into our next pick, Robert?

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, no, I completely agree. Like I've said before, the only path this team getting to a championship is Big Bang, paint playing out of his mind. All right, that's the only way that can happen. I don't see it happening. He's washed up 38 years old. He can't string together multiple games like that. I'm happy you check them because again, going right into our next pick,

Dave Clarke:

it's probably the only team that has a path to the Super Bowl by their quarterback playing well. So that's a pretty hot take there, Bobby. All right. So moving on to the Bobby and Mike team for the sixth round. You're gonna open up the sixth round for us guys. There's the sixth round and seventh round left. There's a slim pickins left on the board at this point, I have to say, but some teams fell. It's been a great day so far. Tell me who is your sixth overall pick for the playoff MVP playoff draft, sirs.

Rob Kelly:

So this next team to me is a guaranteed first round victory because I don't have faith in that 38 year old quarterback playing at an elite level. And that is the Cleveland Browns. You know why? Because they play Smash Mouth football and they're going to smack the Steelers in the face. And I think that the Browns gonna upset that the Steelers in the first round. So we're going Cleveland Browns.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I think I think Cleveland is is a very interesting pick. And this game is a very interesting game because when everyone is playing right, the Steelers have shown in the last what we'll call it eight weeks, an inability to really pick it up on the offensive side of the ball for 60 minutes. Now when they do do it for 30 minutes that they are they show that that glimpse is that flash of greatness. I just think that these teams are so familiar with each other that a divisional opponent in the first round of the playoffs smells like an upset for whoever's ranked higher.

Unknown:

And I you know,

Michael Marcangelo:

I would have picked anybody over the Steelers, so I'm glad that it's that it's the browns.

Dave Clarke:

Wow. All right. damning indictment of the Steelers. I feel like it's become personal at this point. But here we are. Just as a quick recap. Bobby and Mike have chosen six of their teams. They've chosen the chiefs, the Bucs, the Titans, the Seahawks, the saints, and finally the browns. So what do you guys think of that Browns pick rang and Joe

Joe Malkin:

Ray. It's interesting. This is kind of backtracking a little bit, but it's interesting that Mike says a team will not win a Super Bowl because of their running back yet. They picked the teams that have Alvin Kamara and Derrick Henry. So now we talk about the Cleveland Browns who have Nick Chubb. And if you can get past the fact that Baker Mayfield is Mostly show, though I do enjoy watching him play. I don't think a Kevin's to fancy lead at Cleveland Browns team is going to make it past the first round, especially against a coach that we all agree is a pretty good NFL coach and Mike Tomlin he has his his downfalls. But which coach doesn't we know that Belichick can't draft and Mike Tomlin just can't manage the clock in the fourth quarter. Otherwise, great pick. Great pick for you guys. Because again, as Mike said earlier, you're going to lose, you're gonna lose that point. So it's fine by me.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yes, fine by me too. I mean, well, Joe, you don't think that Baker has been progressive on the field?

Joe Malkin:

Sure, sure. He hasn't. That's it. You know what my team is better, better without OBJ. So maybe that gives him an upper hand.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

My thing is, it's like like Joe said, it's amazing how many running backs you guys have picked on? And it just this might be the most glaring one because I said me Chuck, Chubb and hunt are an amazing tool in my opinion. So But either way, you know, hey, you know, take it, you could have it. And, you know, I look forward to getting that point. So appreciate it.

Dave Clarke:

Well, since you guys have yet to make your sixth pick, tell me how you're gonna win that point. So far. You've picked the Packers, the bills, the Ravens, the Rams and the Steelers. So who is your sixth round pick in this playoff draft?

Joe Malkin:

We're both really excited to make this pic Dave?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, Dave, um, this may be your favorite pic of the night. We're going all the way to a windy city, baby. And we are going with the Chicago Bears. Um, you know, yeah, we weren't you know, wasn't pleased with what they're showing today. I even got called Petey for calling ballgame a couple hours ago. Okay. I mean, by our, by our very own host, but you know, still love them. And, you know, but I mean, listen, guys, Aaron Rodgers, that's gonna happen. But the defense, like we've talked about already, the defenses is phenomenal. Um, Mitch clearly was the right choice over Nick foles. And we went back and forth early in the year like, Oh, you know, his, you know, big Nick like, well, it he became a shrimp when it mattered. So, you know, maybe his career is over, not just to Chicago, but in the league as a whole. But, um, yeah, like, I just like the mainly for the defense. I'm a fan of Alan Robinson as well. You know, hope to see him, you know, in a blue and silver uniform next year. But you know, that's, that's a whole nother episode for another day. But, um, yeah, let's I'm sold on defense. And I think that, you know, they can make some noise in that first round. So, going with the bears,

Joe Malkin:

Joe? Yeah. You know, it just goes back to the whole thing about Drew Brees getting his ninth playoff loss. And I think Mike is even more confident in our pick of the bears than his pick of the saints. So, I mean, Ray said it best, you know, they have the pieces they have the weapons on defense. And if Alvin Kamara isn't able to play the bears are gonna move on which is gonna be amazing.

Dave Clarke:

Well, I'm nervous to throw it over to the reaction of Bobby and Mike. This bears pic. I hope it doesn't get slated too hard because it's gonna hurt my feelings after watch them lose the Packers today. But, Bobby Mike, what do you make of that pic?

Michael Marcangelo:

Dude, I mean, I like I like to think you know, full transparency 1,000% honesty. I am so low on the goddamn Steelers that little john would write a song about me. Okay, that's how bad it is. I think that i think that i think that Drew Brees is terrible.

Rob Kelly:

And I have 40 and slip right now. Yeah.

Michael Marcangelo:

I meant to say it's but it's still it's still there. I think if there was ever an upset city that's gonna happen this week. The Bears I know they're gonna go far but they're gonna go past the saints.

Rob Kelly:

No, I I disagree. I think that it's a guarantee I'm telling the bears the bears or the bears are a fun football team to watch because they're they're a team that poorly coach but Mitch Mitch trubisky came in and saved the day. One three out of four to end the season. It's not going to continue past next week. I'm sorry. It's just not the saints. The Saints are going to beat the bears next week and DK I apologize for that. But I'm very happy you guys check them.

Dave Clarke:

That's okay. Talking about football all year. I'm glad you said that. No, no, the bears are gonna win. Right so moving on to the final round. The final round gentlemen the final countdown did it into here we are round seven. There are two teams left on the table. And quite frankly, I'm pretty surprised with how high everybody here everybody here has been on the Colts that they've fallen this far including you Bobby so and like they were they were in your top 10 power rankings and now they're dropping to the seventh round. And I'm going over to you guys talking about the Colts because I mean it's inevitable that you're going to pick them right you're not going to pick the NFC East winner over the cold sorry. Yeah.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, I'm really I'm really high on Alex Smith and Bobby's just really high but I think that we're gonna stick with the with the Colts, right? I

Rob Kelly:

mean, I think The only reason I think they lasted this long is because I said it a couple times throughout the years. They're the most boring good team I've ever watched in my life. Like we said, the most exciting player on this team is their kicker. So I think that that says a lot about this team. But I'm very happy that you guys picked the bears over them because I think this is a steal with the last pic because I think the Colts are a real good sleeper in the AFC, the Raptors and technicals?

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I just think that there's you know, they for I think the first five weeks of the season had the top ranked defense in terms of points allowed. Yeah, so I think that, you know, they're there. It's a good matchup. I do think that the point the bill is reading, that's scary. That's, that's a really scary matchup. But I think if there's one defensive team that can do, it can probably be the Colts. So I'm happy with this pick. And dairies letter is in Josh Allen's face, and it has had a it could be a long day for him. So.

Dave Clarke:

So gentlemen, as an isolated pick, you can't really sleep them too hard because it was between the Colts and the winner of the NFC East, which is going to be the Giants or the Washington football team, looking increasingly likely like the Washington football team, they're only up three at halftime right now, but it doesn't look like the Eagles have any interest in winning this game. So it's looking like it's gonna be Washington, but it still could be New York, but the Colts were obviously the right choice. Let me ask you this. Do you think if they had the choice between the bears and the Colts it looks like they weren't chosen the Colts? Tell me why that would have been the wrong decision?

Joe Malkin:

Well, let me start off by saying that the reason part of the reason why this went this way, was had we chosen the Colts earlier, they would have been going against another team that we picked in the Buffalo Bills. So that was part of the reason why we shied away from them. Not that we don't think that they're a good team, but because we think the bills are going to win that game. Secondly, had we taken them last round, then both teams probably would have ended up with a team going against another team that they had already picked because that NFC East team is going to go up against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So Dave, repeat your question that I totally forgot already.

Dave Clarke:

So it looks like it was a strategy for you guys to pick the bears over the coals. But I was saying it looks like they would have picked the Colts no matter what do you think that was the right choice? Tell me what you think about the deity hapless Colt. Yeah,

Joe Malkin:

I mean, it's it's the right choice. Right, right. I mean, it's the right choice for a couple reasons, because they are a good team. Bobby and I are in agreement that they are boring to watch, but they're a good team. I mean, Frank Reich is one of my favorite coaches in the NFL. So it's definitely the right play. But here's why it's the wrong play. Mike talks about Mike and Bobby talk about quarterbacks and their their playoff records and everything else. Well, Philip Rivers is the quarterback of that Indianapolis Colts team, and yeah, I don't know where he's

Rayshawn Buchanan:

at baby. You know, 2006 they go 14 and two, you know, we come in a put lights out on the Chargers that stood out to Troy Brown. Oh, seven, they come to New England. Lights out again, we dominated the championship game, and in 2018, we beat them. So it's a I can't think about the other stuff that they've lost when they've got there. But, um, you know, he screams mediocrity. Um, you know, even though Mike was saying, well, he beat Lamar Jackson a couple years ago. But that's, you know, that's, that's a that's a fact. That's true.

Rob Kelly:

I love it. I love Ray's impressions of us. Yeah, you

Rayshawn Buchanan:

know, it's great. Um, you know, I'll be here all week. So, you know, can we can we go into our pick? A David

Dave Clarke:

asked you is you're now left with the winner of the NFC East, you could still potentially be in Washington. Rocket, you can still either be either New York or the Washington football team. Tell me who you'd prefer it. Would it be? Who is your hope to win that division now that you're stuck with the pick? Yes. I

Rayshawn Buchanan:

mean, I'll jump into this as I was already on a rant about that. But I think I think Washington is a team that, you know, Joe and I both were looking to go with, you know, if they are if they are to win, which just seems like they're going to so you know, don't make us look bad. But, you know, we speak about being a believer in defense, right? And I said, we know we picked a beard for that same reason, right? You know, you got killer Mac, and, you know, Danny surveyed and you know, you got some guys that can really ball. Well, Chase young is is a problem. And he has not been solved all season. And I just think that, you know, when you have a guy that can disrupt players like him to disrupt the offense like that, it's it gives you a chance to say the least it gives you a chance. And you know, Alex Smith being a comeback story of the Year by far like it's not even close. It's only the second snap. He became Comeback Player of the Year. No pun intended. Um, you know, so it's just like, you know, to me Sorry, guys. Um, yeah, I know that was too soon too far, too over the top, but it is what it is. But, um, yeah, I just like what they've done. And I'm a fan of because, you know, he put a little fantasy points that I did get he he killed it for me. sent out to mckissic. But yeah, we rather Washington than the giants.

Joe Malkin:

Yeah, I'm gonna go with that as well. I mean, the Giants just look, they're often I really think Joe judge is a good coach. I think he's going to be a good coach for a long time in the NFL. I really do. We can bring that tape up if he if he isn't but the the Giants defense isn't great. Their quarterback play has been bad. We Mike sent it today twice in an eight second span that the Giants offense is putrid. It's It's true. I mean, you don't have to say Kwan. And yet here they are. They're there. You know, but again, running backs don't win the championship. So I like Washington to I think the the best thing they did for themselves was to cut Dwayne Haskins even though he did play fairly well. I mean, he helped get them to where they are right. So, but they have Terry Maclaurin, they have jd mckissick in the backfield. I mean, they don't have a hell of a lot of options on offense. But but that defense that defense is coming together, and I think they're kind of that good. That good feeling story with Ron Rivera, right. So they have that aspect going for them to play for your coach. And I I hope Washington pulls this out. So that that's our last pick. And full transparency. Do I think they're going to beat Tampa? No, do I think they can out of Chicago. Alright,

Dave Clarke:

so we're hoping for Washington over there and the Hollywood and Broadway show. And I think that's probably likely at the time recording but we'll let you know once we post this. So we have our picks we have our teams. I'm going to go over to Bobby and Mike and I'm going to give you guys a couple minutes to review the ray and Joe team and I'm going to read you off their picks round one they Packers round two they picked the bills around three to pick the Ravens around four they picked the Rams around five they pick the Steelers around six they picked the Chicago Bears and round seven. They picked the winner of the nscs most likely Washington Redskins. So Bobby Mike, what do you guys think?

Rob Kelly:

So I would like to list off who the quarterbacks are for four other teams. Or three. We have Jared Goff. Mitch trubisky Oh, one legged Alex Smith, and a washed up 38 row. Ben Roethlisberger.

Joe Malkin:

You gotta give it to us. Bobby,

Unknown:

my time you get your minute in a second. Go ahead.

Rob Kelly:

Yep, so that's, that's why I'm okay with those picks. The bills to me are the team that could get them the most points out of this. Though the only team I think that could that could take down our number one pick in the chiefs. So that's the one team that they have. That does scare me. But I'm, I'm feeling pretty confident with who they got on their slate.

Michael Marcangelo:

Their team just screams soft. It's I mean, it's just soft. I mean, the packers are bad playoff team. The Ravens under Lamar Jackson are a winless playoff team. The Steelers are the best playoff team on on their roster. And we all know how I feel about them. I also think that, you know, there's a chance to some points to the bears and the NFC East team. I'm really big on Alex Smith. I think that is a good story. Whether or not you pick them, they're on your team. So you're held accountable for him. But you know, he's foreign one so far this year, as they're starting probably about to be five and one. So I think that it's going to be I think that's gonna be a good story. Yeah, this, their team is, you know, just you should call the paper champions, bro. It's what they are. Wow,

Dave Clarke:

I'm gonna before I let you guys attack their team, I'm going to give you a minute to defend yourselves about your team. Go ahead.

Joe Malkin:

There's nothing really to defend, right because it speaks for itself where you don't need a running back to win a championship because running backs don't win championships. So we'll go after your team in a second. But there have been bad quarterbacks that have won Super Bowls. And of the four you named what were the four you name to go name them again for me.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

He said one legged Alex Smith. Okay. He's he said he said a 38 year old watch that burn Rob.

Joe Malkin:

Sorry. Sorry. It's two times Super Bowl winner. Yep.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Right. Exactly. Uh, sorry, as Jared Godfrey said,

Joe Malkin:

Ben do a Super Bowl. Yep.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, I'm talking about a fourth. When

Unknown:

was it Lamar was Mike?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Mike says we've watched him He's fine. But how

Joe Malkin:

long? How long is Lamar Jackson been in the league?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I believe this is his third year,

Joe Malkin:

how many times you got to the playoffs? Twice. He's been there twice. And granted, he's he's lost both times. Right. But he's been to the playoffs? Two out of three years.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah. And he's an MVP. Yeah. Right.

Joe Malkin:

And who are they playing?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

They're playing the I can't remember right now. The plans

Joe Malkin:

last year last year, right Mike? So we're, we're living in the past because we're saying the Titans are going to beat them again. So it doesn't necessarily have to be defensive because our team I agree with Bobby. That Those are the best opportunity we have. But our team is not soft, because you always want to play on the past. The past is what you want to keep playing on. But it's here and now it's 2020. It's a very different season. Right. So

Rayshawn Buchanan:

let's see what happens. And I do have one more comment about that. Right. I think whatever quarterback that we do have that wins. They'll still be better than this guy. That was number eight that played in the 90s.

Dave Clarke:

Wow, don't call it a call back. All right, so now is your opportunity to go after Bobby and Mike's top seven. Their seven draft picks them and read them off. He has a little refresh. Number one they pick the Chiefs in round two they pick the bucks. Then they pick the Titans the Seahawks the New Orleans Saints. In round six. They picked the Cleveland Browns and to top it off with a probably stronger seventh round. They pick the Indianapolis Colts. So tell me what do you guys think of their team? Are you scared? Right? Did

Joe Malkin:

you know that? Matt Stafford threw his 200 and 80th touchdown pass today 115 more than Troy Aikman threw in his entire career.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

oh my what a stat what a stat and it's not like give me a stat

Dave Clarke:

I'm sorry. Irrelevant but okay. Sorry.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

It's just you know, it just it just it just came about but the room spacious apartment

Rob Kelly:

and you guys so rooming right? Yeah,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

it is. It's a three bed and two showers. But um, no, um, I think that we should call their team the forrest gump because they just run and they run and they run and it's just like you know what this Kamara whether it's you know Derrick Henry you know you name is all about the running backs with with their team so like I said, we already talked about it it's very ironic that they picked up teams that are very heavy on running and will win because they can run the ball not because they can throw a five yard hitch route or seam rod or whatever, they're going to win because they run the ball because guess what, like Mike said, I'm using this point oh the Ross gets it you're right so guess what? You have to run the ball into postseason so but I mean, hey, you know it is what it is but what we'll see what happens but either way whether whether we're soft, you guys may be soft, that going down and

Joe Malkin:

listen what it is. We got we'll make the joke for the fourth time during the show. We do have the quarterback that should his pants. I don't care how soft his poop is. We're still gonna win. All right,

Dave Clarke:

I'm gonna go over to Bobby my to defend themselves. I will say though, going after them for pick and run heavy teams when they have the team of Patrick mahomes on and the team with Tom Brady on it. And the team of Drew Brees on it. And the team of Philip Rivers on it is a little strange. But Oh, hold

Unknown:

on. Hold on, hopefully. Yeah. Go ahead, guys. Relax.

Michael Marcangelo:

I'm going. I'm going after him. So I think the concept has has just been lost, I guess, on our rivals, right? They think that every team that we pick, we think someone's horrible, no, that's the chiefs. Every other team that has a good running back will go will go far. But they won't win, which will reinforce my point, we will get more points than you. I know that we have run heavy teams, right? You mentioned to it's interesting, because the Chiefs have a really good passing attack, the Buccaneers have a really good passing attack, the Seahawks have a really good passing attack. So you just pick to open the culture also really good throws as well. So it doesn't fit your narrative. We're gonna kick the absolute shit out of you, which you know, and you don't want to admit it is your fault. But the fact of the matter is, is Super Bowl champions are on this team to cheese. You know it, we know it? That's ballgame, right?

Rob Kelly:

So to add on to that, there's five teams, the top five teams who are favored to win the Super Bowl, number one, chiefs. Number three, the saints. Number five, the Buccaneers. So we have three out of the top five teams on our roster, just 60%. Right. So when we have 40, which is

Unknown:

higher than 40.

Rob Kelly:

Right? So three out of five, three out of the top five are on our team. I'm just saying we definitely know what we're talking about here. Plus, we got we got the saints

Unknown:

stop saying the saints do not stop using that to the list. Okay.

Rob Kelly:

You'll see It's alright. It's alright.

Joe Malkin:

Let's have a 16 What do you think, Dave?

Dave Clarke:

I think that that's gonna do it because I think we've kind of lost the run of ourselves here. But this was a fun day. Thank you, Ray. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Bobby. Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Craig for producing. I just want to give a quick recap for the listeners at home who picked who and you guys can say until you're red in the face that you're right, but there's only one way to find out and that's the play the damn game. So Bobby and Mike chiefs books Titan Seahawks, saints, browns, Colts, Ray and Joe Packers, bills, ravens, RAMs, Steelers bears, and maybe Washington, maybe New York, probably Washington. So that'll do it for our playoff draft here at missing the point. I really appreciate everybody being here. I really want to promise you guys that we all get on Long we don't hate each other as much as it sounds like we do in this show. This is just a show about sports. So we try to really bring the competitive spirit. But like I said, there's only one way to find out and the bragging rights are going to go to whoever wins. So we'll see after the Super Bowl to recap the recap. Thank you guys for listening and good night.

Craig D'Alessandro:

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