Patriots Collapse vs Steelers + Panthers Preview & Trade Buzz

00:00:05.230 --> 00:00:20.440 Mike Marcangelo: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Missing the Point, Boston Edition, right here on the Radcast Network. I am your host, Michael Marc Angelo, joined alongside by my guy, Hollywood Rayshawn Buchanan, and MTP Boston means we're talking Patriots. 2 00:00:20.570 --> 00:00:29.099 Mike Marcangelo: And the last 3 years, typically when we talk Patriots, it's not great. This week will be no different. The Patriots lost. 3 00:00:29.100 --> 00:00:47.060 Mike Marcangelo: A game that they absolutely fucking dominated against the Pittsburgh Steelers at home, 21-14. They fall to 0-2 at home. They've lost as many games since Brady left as they lost at home, the 20 years that he was here, so there's that. But Ray, how are you, man? What do you want to talk about? 4 00:00:47.670 --> 00:00:57.429 Rayshawn Buchanan: So, I mean, I did think it sucked that we didn't speak after the Miami win last week. I mean, it just… it was just scheduled, scheduled conflict, but, 5 00:00:58.830 --> 00:01:10.820 Rayshawn Buchanan: But the reason why I bring up that win is that, obviously, yes, getting a win in the NFL, regardless of what team you are, like, a win's hard to come by, right? So, and even though they had won down there, and Drake had a really good game. 6 00:01:10.820 --> 00:01:19.280 Rayshawn Buchanan: There were still some things that you saw and needed to get, you know, cleaned up, right? And the reason why I used that game is because whatever… 7 00:01:19.800 --> 00:01:22.349 Rayshawn Buchanan: Didn't get corrected in that game. 8 00:01:22.540 --> 00:01:35.959 Rayshawn Buchanan: absolutely reared his head, ugly headed that, in this Pittsburgh game. And obviously, for those that have listened to us, you guys know, that I've gotten on Pittsburgh still as fans, 9 00:01:36.210 --> 00:01:43.440 Rayshawn Buchanan: You know, they've never gotten us when it mattered. Obviously, they won, on Sunday, and it took… 10 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.220 Rayshawn Buchanan: Let's say it took a catastrophic… 11 00:01:47.530 --> 00:01:57.960 Rayshawn Buchanan: type of performance offensively, you know, for that to happen, but either… nevertheless, they capitalized when they needed to. And it's… it's… it sucks, because… 12 00:01:59.250 --> 00:02:03.899 Rayshawn Buchanan: It's like… I just don't understand how… 13 00:02:04.780 --> 00:02:09.350 Rayshawn Buchanan: You can turn over the ball 5 times… 14 00:02:10.610 --> 00:02:12.530 Rayshawn Buchanan: And some of those guys are still on the team. 15 00:02:13.040 --> 00:02:21.270 Rayshawn Buchanan: I mean, we can get into that, but I just… I'm blown away. Blown away, by the boneheaded place. Blown away. 16 00:02:21.270 --> 00:02:33.919 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good place to start, right? Like, back in the old days, Bill Belichick, if a running back fumbled twice in the game, you'd never see them again. And then they would draft a running back that actually wasn't that fast or good, but never fumbled the ball, Ben Jarvis Green Ellis, and he would be the new guy. 17 00:02:33.920 --> 00:02:48.809 Mike Marcangelo: So let's talk about the running back problem that we have. And I would say the positives still outweigh the negatives for the running backs, right? We have, obviously we have Ramondre Stevenson, you got Antonio Gibson, you got Travion Henderson. The real big problem for me 18 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:57.509 Mike Marcangelo: is not, the, you know, the two fumbles by Ramondre and the one by, by Gibson. 19 00:02:57.660 --> 00:03:06.109 Mike Marcangelo: It's the fact that that really didn't lead to an increase of usage or productivity, for Travion. 20 00:03:06.110 --> 00:03:18.869 Mike Marcangelo: And, like, he's the guy, and we know that he can't be an every-week 3-down back, but when you have issues clearly holding onto the fucking football, and this isn't new for Ramadre, this happened last year, too. So, this is an issue now. 21 00:03:18.970 --> 00:03:23.410 Mike Marcangelo: You have, like, you have probably one of the most electric 22 00:03:23.650 --> 00:03:27.089 Mike Marcangelo: Running backs taken, in the last couple of years. 23 00:03:27.270 --> 00:03:29.389 Rayshawn Buchanan: Why don't… like, why don't you go to him? 24 00:03:30.530 --> 00:03:38.410 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I don't know what's going on, I mean, and I don't know whether it's something they want him to pay his dues, like, I don't know what it is, but it's like, dude, like… 25 00:03:38.580 --> 00:03:42.160 Rayshawn Buchanan: You… you were in the business of winning games, not… 26 00:03:42.290 --> 00:03:45.669 Rayshawn Buchanan: Just waiting for guys to develop and see what happens. 27 00:03:47.900 --> 00:04:02.700 Rayshawn Buchanan: And right now, it's just looking like they're waiting for him to develop, and it's just like, dog, he's someone that can produce. You saw in the preseason, you know, with him returning kicks, like, he's a dynamic playmaker, and… 28 00:04:02.950 --> 00:04:07.990 Rayshawn Buchanan: Josh has done well with that type of running back, so I'm just like, I'm not understanding why… 29 00:04:08.180 --> 00:04:27.039 Rayshawn Buchanan: he's not out there, you know, catching, you know, those angle routes, or, you know, running a wheel route, you know, you know, past the safety. Like, he can get there. And then he's… he's only fumbled, I think, twice in his time at Ohio State. Like, he's the curve with the football, so… 30 00:04:27.080 --> 00:04:35.639 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like I said, it was just alarming that, you know, he didn't get more touches. But I think you alluded to this the last time we talked about this. 31 00:04:35.830 --> 00:04:40.019 Rayshawn Buchanan: Drake May, as talented as he is, should not be your leading rusher. 32 00:04:40.970 --> 00:04:50.620 Mike Marcangelo: Right, again, that was my next point. Again, you have a three-headed monster, as we've been, you know, told in the running back, in the backfield with, between Gibson, Henderson, and Stevenson. 33 00:04:50.750 --> 00:04:54.649 Mike Marcangelo: And again, Drake May, 7 carries, 45 yards. He led the team. 34 00:04:55.490 --> 00:04:57.750 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right. Now, I will say. 35 00:04:57.830 --> 00:05:00.610 Mike Marcangelo: Some of his runs were just… 36 00:05:01.050 --> 00:05:06.129 Mike Marcangelo: were just awesome to watch. And it is… it is cool to see, you know, 37 00:05:06.320 --> 00:05:13.069 Mike Marcangelo: I think he's being… he's definitely being, more protective with the football when he's running, obviously. 38 00:05:13.170 --> 00:05:25.190 Mike Marcangelo: I love to see the little bursts he has once he clears the corner on the outside, because he definitely has it, and the cool part about him is, like, he has all the intangibles. He's got everything. It's a matter of… 39 00:05:25.610 --> 00:05:28.350 Mike Marcangelo: Is the game going to slow down enough for him? 40 00:05:28.850 --> 00:05:37.149 Mike Marcangelo: like, you know, and will that happen quick enough? That he can be the guy that we think he's gonna be? But no, it's a problem, and I think it… 41 00:05:37.200 --> 00:05:39.060 Rayshawn Buchanan: In terms of the backfield. 42 00:05:39.280 --> 00:05:46.929 Mike Marcangelo: do you expect them to go, Travion, or do you think, do you think Vrabel's gonna stick with Ramondre? 43 00:05:47.730 --> 00:05:52.870 Rayshawn Buchanan: I had to cut from Andre, like, and that, like, and once again. 44 00:05:53.060 --> 00:05:56.240 Mike Marcangelo: In case you wanted to know who was running our Twitter account on Sunday, you're talking to him. 45 00:05:56.520 --> 00:05:57.720 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, no, that's… 46 00:05:57.720 --> 00:05:59.420 Mike Marcangelo: That'd be great. 47 00:05:59.700 --> 00:06:01.839 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'd cut them. 48 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:04.240 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'd cut him. 49 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:12.910 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, you know, y'all tell me every other show that you could find a running back out there in the street, so, like, go cut them. Like, once again. 50 00:06:12.910 --> 00:06:13.819 Mike Marcangelo: And I have them. 51 00:06:13.820 --> 00:06:20.540 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, right, but bro, what I'm saying is that I… There was no bigger supporter. 52 00:06:20.880 --> 00:06:30.560 Rayshawn Buchanan: of Stevenson on the show than me. Like, I'm… once again, so… so for me to get to that point lets you know where I'm at with that. Once again, tried to defend it last year. 53 00:06:30.840 --> 00:06:44.699 Rayshawn Buchanan: try to say, you know, you know, maybe, you know, whatever was going on, but I can't defend what I saw on Sunday. Once again, he was really good in the Miami game, so, you know, great, awesome. But we're getting to a point where his good… 54 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.289 Rayshawn Buchanan: Play does not outweigh as bad. 55 00:06:47.660 --> 00:06:51.960 Rayshawn Buchanan: And… if that's the case, Then it should cut ties. 56 00:06:52.080 --> 00:06:55.210 Rayshawn Buchanan: And, once again, can't you just be… 57 00:06:55.760 --> 00:07:13.059 Rayshawn Buchanan: Can you be David Montgomery? Can you just be that? Once again, I don't need Barry Sanders, I don't need Emma Smith, I don't need Adrian Peterson. Once again, it'd be great if he became that. It'd be great. But can you just be someone like David Montgomery? Someone that's gonna be very serviceable, that can get the job done, 58 00:07:13.270 --> 00:07:18.320 Rayshawn Buchanan: And, you know, run really hard every time. Can you do that? Because if not, then you don't need to be here. 59 00:07:19.050 --> 00:07:19.960 Rayshawn Buchanan: Period. 60 00:07:20.180 --> 00:07:28.310 Mike Marcangelo: I mean, yeah, that's the comp that we're looking for, right? Is you want… you want, Trevion to be Gibbs, and we need Rolandre to be Montgomery. 61 00:07:28.310 --> 00:07:29.450 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, right. 62 00:07:29.450 --> 00:07:35.980 Mike Marcangelo: or just a… just maybe even, like, a light version of that. I'll take any… I'll take 80% of that at this point. 63 00:07:36.590 --> 00:07:45.619 Mike Marcangelo: But it just feels like the running game, which should be something that they can focus on right now, especially when Drake's under pressure as often as he is. 64 00:07:45.930 --> 00:07:54.190 Mike Marcangelo: that it's… it's just not a leading focus for them. That doesn't make any sense to me. 65 00:07:54.390 --> 00:07:57.069 Mike Marcangelo: Bright spot? Well, let's talk about one more negative. 66 00:07:58.850 --> 00:08:01.889 Mike Marcangelo: You're gonna lose every game that Drake has two turnovers. 67 00:08:03.130 --> 00:08:13.110 Mike Marcangelo: strictly because you're not good enough to beat teams, really any teams, I mean, there are, like, 4 or 5 I can name. One of them I think we're playing this week. But… 68 00:08:13.340 --> 00:08:14.230 Mike Marcangelo: Listen. 69 00:08:14.570 --> 00:08:19.679 Mike Marcangelo: as I, you know, we talked about this last time we were on together, I had this conversation with Karen. 70 00:08:19.790 --> 00:08:23.440 Mike Marcangelo: We have 22 really good players. Really good. 71 00:08:24.770 --> 00:08:41.120 Mike Marcangelo: But it's a 53-man roster, and we're not that deep. And when you put yourself behind the eight ball, you know, Drake goes 28-37, pretty good, two touchdowns, one pick, the pick wasn't great, but that fumble, like, you can't… he can't turn the ball over twice. 72 00:08:41.590 --> 00:08:47.710 Mike Marcangelo: And moreover, this team is nowhere good enough to have 5 turnovers and still expect to win a game. 73 00:08:47.710 --> 00:08:52.159 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right. But what's crazy, they turned it over 5 times. 74 00:08:52.350 --> 00:08:54.779 Rayshawn Buchanan: And you still had a chance to win the game. 75 00:08:55.050 --> 00:08:56.080 Mike Marcangelo: They dominated the game. 76 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.810 Rayshawn Buchanan: Dominate, dominate the game! 77 00:08:58.070 --> 00:09:06.889 Rayshawn Buchanan: And I'm just like, yo, like, the second half was… they finally woke up in the second half and said, okay, we're gonna move the ball, we're gonna throw it here. But… 78 00:09:07.950 --> 00:09:20.970 Rayshawn Buchanan: my takeaway from it is… and I shared this stat with you guys earlier about just where his usage rate is, you know, with Drake May, and just, his passing stats, is at the top end of the league. 79 00:09:21.110 --> 00:09:26.160 Rayshawn Buchanan: According to NextGen Stats, I want the ball in his hands. 80 00:09:26.390 --> 00:09:34.129 Rayshawn Buchanan: live and die with 10, just going. Like, he's clearly your best offensive player already. 81 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:50.320 Rayshawn Buchanan: Live with the results. Live with the results. Once again, Cam Hayward is an All-Pro in this league. Like, he made a play. Yep. That's the… the interception, okay, it happens. The fumble, once again, that was an issue at times last year, obviously. 82 00:09:50.470 --> 00:09:52.390 Rayshawn Buchanan: But, yeah, to, to… 83 00:09:52.600 --> 00:10:04.650 Rayshawn Buchanan: Kim Hayward's an all-pro, so I'm not… I'm not gonna sit here and get on him for that. But yeah, it's just, like I said, put the ball in his hands, 84 00:10:05.900 --> 00:10:10.100 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm also out on Pop Douglas as well. 85 00:10:10.800 --> 00:10:14.769 Mike Marcangelo: Okay, I was… this is great, I was… it's like you read the imaginary show notes. 86 00:10:14.770 --> 00:10:15.290 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, yeah. 87 00:10:15.290 --> 00:10:31.979 Mike Marcangelo: On the positive side, Drake May spread the ball around. He completed a pass to 9 different receivers throughout the course of this game. Obviously, he favors Hunter Henry, I think that connection's great. Hunter, 8 for 90, and 2 touchdowns. That's, I mean, that's a great day from a tight end. 88 00:10:32.770 --> 00:10:42.949 Mike Marcangelo: Pop Douglas, man, on 4th down, if your route does not take you to the sticks or beyond, I don't know what you're doing. Furthermore. 89 00:10:43.580 --> 00:10:45.760 Mike Marcangelo: If it takes you close. 90 00:10:46.070 --> 00:10:56.129 Mike Marcangelo: You bet your ass you don't move backwards. I could not believe that he did that, and I'd love to, like, take me through your emotions as you're watching that. 91 00:10:56.410 --> 00:10:59.300 Rayshawn Buchanan: So, I see him catch it, so I'm excited that he caught it. 92 00:10:59.660 --> 00:11:00.910 Rayshawn Buchanan: And… 93 00:11:01.280 --> 00:11:12.869 Rayshawn Buchanan: I see him try to make a play, so for those that's not listening on audio, and just, you know, or that's listening on audio, I'm putting my air quotes up, and he tried to make a play. 94 00:11:13.260 --> 00:11:16.359 Rayshawn Buchanan: And I'm just like, you try to make a play? 95 00:11:17.140 --> 00:11:21.859 Rayshawn Buchanan: And I think someone was trying to justify it saying that, oh, it was like a wide receiver screen. 96 00:11:22.300 --> 00:11:25.709 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, it wasn't. Blockers weren't… blockers were not set up. This wasn't a… 97 00:11:25.710 --> 00:11:28.040 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, there was a wide receiver screen without blockers. 98 00:11:28.040 --> 00:11:32.880 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, this wasn't a Wes Walker bubble screening, or, you know, this wasn't one of those. 99 00:11:33.500 --> 00:11:40.190 Rayshawn Buchanan: just fall forward. You had the first down. This is up there with Jacoby Myers from a few years ago. This is up there. 100 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:58.140 Rayshawn Buchanan: The level of… does the level of ineptitude just… how do you not fall forward? And then you sit there in the press… in the post-game presser, like, oh, you know, just, you know, it was just a play. It's like, you sound stupid because you're playing stupid. 101 00:11:58.140 --> 00:12:10.359 Rayshawn Buchanan: And… but I'm… I'm out. I'm out. Like, where's… where's Chisholm? Where's Kyle Williams? Like, I think… I think Kyle Williams has more yards than… than, than Pop, or something like that. Like, it's… it's wild. So… 102 00:12:10.430 --> 00:12:17.599 Rayshawn Buchanan: They don't… they don't use Stephon Davis, like, I just… it's… there's so much going on. I'm just like, it, it's… it's really a joke. 103 00:12:18.920 --> 00:12:37.399 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, but yeah. But I do… I do think… I do think Stephon Diggs is being used for one of the main purposes that he was brought here, and… because, I mean, last year, you're not going to see a stat line where Drake May is spreading the ball around to 9 different receivers, right? And he can do that because now Keyshawn Booty's not going up against their number ones. 104 00:12:37.410 --> 00:12:40.270 Rayshawn Buchanan: Neither, you know, neither is Pop Douglas. 105 00:12:40.270 --> 00:12:44.620 Mike Marcangelo: So, I mean, listen, Stephon Diggs, 3 for 23, 106 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:47.599 Mike Marcangelo: It's, it's gotta be, it's gotta be better than that. 107 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:57.740 Rayshawn Buchanan: And Keyshawn Booty, 2 for 28. Like, why do those guys only have 3 targets? So, Booty had 3 targets, Diggs had 3 targets. 3 targets, 3 catches. 108 00:12:58.560 --> 00:13:01.519 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? 109 00:13:01.520 --> 00:13:04.579 Mike Marcangelo: Well, I mean, Hunter Henry had 11 targets and had 8 catches. 110 00:13:04.950 --> 00:13:17.139 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, so once again, listen, you know, we had different opinions on Hunter Hunter when we got here, but he's been awesome since he's been here, so he's great, he's awesome. I'm not mad at it. It's typical job. 111 00:13:17.140 --> 00:13:20.539 Mike Marcangelo: Was I excited and you were upset, or was it the other way around? 112 00:13:21.930 --> 00:13:25.720 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I was more excited you was calling him Mr. Glass. 113 00:13:25.820 --> 00:13:29.640 Mike Marcangelo: Okay. I was like, there's gotta be a reason why he brings this up every time I talk about Hunter Henry, but yeah. 114 00:13:30.050 --> 00:13:39.109 Rayshawn Buchanan: Well, no, because… no, but all… but, I mean, this is on both of us. We both thought Jonah Swift was going to be a problem here, and he wasn't, unfortunately. So, 115 00:13:39.670 --> 00:13:44.199 Rayshawn Buchanan: But I just thought that in Josh's offense, I was like, tight ends do well. They just have. 116 00:13:44.210 --> 00:13:53.619 Rayshawn Buchanan: And Henry did well in 2021, with Josh Aaron, and obviously now he's doing well with him here again. So, 117 00:13:53.620 --> 00:14:10.640 Rayshawn Buchanan: it's just a tight-end friendly system. It just… it just has been, up here, so whether it was Dawn from Fourier to whoever, right? Daniel Graham, whoever, they just, they just had guys that could play in that, in that position, so… But yeah, that's not enough. 118 00:14:10.640 --> 00:14:13.359 Mike Marcangelo: It's just not, and it's just, like, to me. 119 00:14:13.410 --> 00:14:18.140 Rayshawn Buchanan: They're definitely… you can tell they're better, like, that's not debatable, they're definitely better. 120 00:14:18.270 --> 00:14:24.610 Rayshawn Buchanan: But to still have the same record as you had last year, at this time, is super infuriating. 121 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:41.330 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, no, listen, I 100% agree. I think my hope was that this team got to 8 or 9 wins. I did predict on our AFC versus NFC show that the Patriots would have more wins than the Cowboys, and I'm gonna stick to that. 122 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:47.509 Mike Marcangelo: But no, like, Stefan needs to… he can't have 3 targets. 123 00:14:47.970 --> 00:14:54.230 Mike Marcangelo: Like, you gotta target him at least 6 times, because odds are he's gonna catch the ball 5 of those times, if it's catchable. 124 00:14:54.450 --> 00:14:58.289 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, and that best was saying, whether you put him in a slot. 125 00:14:58.380 --> 00:15:17.170 Rayshawn Buchanan: whether you put him… because, to me, he's not a guy that's gonna burn someone at this point in his career, right? Nope. Put him on the inside, like Almiron St. Brown, and let him do the Michael Thomas thing, and just catch 5 UR slants, and be a possession guy at this moment. He could easily get 70 catches off that, easily! 126 00:15:17.170 --> 00:15:17.770 Mike Marcangelo: Yep. 127 00:15:17.770 --> 00:15:41.680 Rayshawn Buchanan: like, let him do that. And once again, he's already had 100 yards, which I feel like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, it probably took 9 weeks for someone to get 100 yards last year. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just like, it's crazy, man, but I don't know, I just think, to me, they're underutilizing some guys, and… I know it's about scheme, I know that Pittsburgh probably had… 128 00:15:41.680 --> 00:15:44.049 Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, digs and Booty on their, 129 00:15:44.380 --> 00:15:49.040 Rayshawn Buchanan: You know, on their game plan, so that they try to scheme… scheme away from those guys, but… 130 00:15:49.940 --> 00:15:52.580 Rayshawn Buchanan: Live and die with your best players. Period. 131 00:15:52.700 --> 00:15:53.670 Rayshawn Buchanan: Period. 132 00:15:53.670 --> 00:16:00.900 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, no, I'm with you, but I mean, to your point, through 3 games, the Patriots have 4 100-yard receivers so far. 133 00:16:02.970 --> 00:16:11.959 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah. So, I mean, Drake… I mean, Drake, Drake is 250 yards away from, sorry, 225 yards away from 1,000 yards. 134 00:16:12.920 --> 00:16:15.610 Mike Marcangelo: So, I mean, he's probably gonna get to 4,000 passing notes. 135 00:16:16.250 --> 00:16:23.460 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, he's… he's dealing, like, that's… but that's what I'm saying, like, he's… he's… Like, he, like, clearly… 136 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:39.980 Rayshawn Buchanan: like, he's, like, once again, still… I guess we're still waiting on a signature moment, like we talked about… that was our big thing with Mac Jones. We're still waiting on that, per se. It would have been in Tennessee, but, you know, they… they tricked that game off. 137 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:58.510 Rayshawn Buchanan: But it definitely would have been Tennessee, that would have been… that would have been a, you know, that moment there. But yeah, I don't know, but I'm at a point now, even I was like this last year, he was already their best player last year. Live and die with 10, and just go from there. The line is a little bit better. 138 00:16:58.800 --> 00:17:04.869 Rayshawn Buchanan: your receiving core is better. You have a pass rush now, like, Harold Learnji's been awesome. 139 00:17:05.460 --> 00:17:07.820 Mike Marcangelo: know it, because Aaron Rodgers wasn't sacked once. 140 00:17:07.950 --> 00:17:19.529 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, in this game, but it's just, I'm saying, overall, you could tell that they, you know, they get there for the most part. And once again, I don't know what happened on Sunday. Like I said, there were so many things… 141 00:17:19.790 --> 00:17:28.439 Rayshawn Buchanan: that went left for them Sunday, that… like I said, it's a miracle that they even lost by 7. 142 00:17:29.560 --> 00:17:30.240 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, pismo… 143 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:43.270 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I mean, because if you look at the stat line, this could really go either way, right? Like, if you just look at just team sets, first downs, Patriots 26, Steelers 17. Third down efficiency, 6 of 13 versus 4 of 9. 144 00:17:43.420 --> 00:17:46.759 Mike Marcangelo: Total yards, 369 to 203. 145 00:17:47.540 --> 00:17:51.630 Mike Marcangelo: You just take those, and you're like, wow, the Pats fucking ran away with this one. 146 00:17:52.050 --> 00:17:52.860 Rayshawn Buchanan: Nope. 147 00:17:52.860 --> 00:17:56.410 Mike Marcangelo: And then you go to… and then you just go to turnovers. 5-1. 148 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:58.550 Mike Marcangelo: Penalties. 7 to 8. 149 00:17:59.080 --> 00:18:06.010 Mike Marcangelo: There it is. It's literally the turnover game. And by the way, like, we have to talk about the penalties, too, because… 150 00:18:06.150 --> 00:18:15.800 Mike Marcangelo: It's… that needs to be fixed. We're going through almost a quarter of the way through the season now, and they're averaging, like, 6 or 7 penalties per game. 151 00:18:17.660 --> 00:18:21.770 Rayshawn Buchanan: But, once again, we… it's been undisciplined football since 2020. 152 00:18:23.220 --> 00:18:26.470 Rayshawn Buchanan: You could, even when Bill was here, it was… it started to deteriorate. 153 00:18:26.740 --> 00:18:30.019 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, undisciplined football's a 2020, and… 154 00:18:30.840 --> 00:18:34.289 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, I just… I don't… I don't understand it. I really don't. 155 00:18:34.750 --> 00:18:38.119 Rayshawn Buchanan: I really don't. Like, it blows my mind, 156 00:18:39.100 --> 00:18:43.039 Rayshawn Buchanan: How bad and how undisciplined they've looked since 2020. 157 00:18:43.660 --> 00:18:47.170 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like… but, you know, it's okay, because you don't want to rebuild. 158 00:18:48.710 --> 00:18:50.720 Mike Marcangelo: Officially, yes. Let's talk about. 159 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:51.120 Rayshawn Buchanan: applicant. 160 00:18:51.120 --> 00:19:01.329 Mike Marcangelo: Let's talk about Aaron Rodgers' stat line, okay? Let's just say that you didn't watch the game, you did not see it. 16-23, 139 yards, 2 TDs and a pick. 161 00:19:03.040 --> 00:19:04.310 Mike Marcangelo: He's trash. 162 00:19:05.580 --> 00:19:13.400 Mike Marcangelo: I think he's trash. I've hated him forever. I've never questioned his physical abilities. 163 00:19:13.710 --> 00:19:17.949 Mike Marcangelo: I mean, the cliff is here, and we've seen it. 164 00:19:18.540 --> 00:19:20.810 Rayshawn Buchanan: And they have 64 yards on the ground. 165 00:19:21.430 --> 00:19:28.810 Mike Marcangelo: Correct. 26 carries for 64 yards. They averaged 2.5 yards a carry. We averaged 4.1, and again, you lost the game. 166 00:19:28.940 --> 00:19:30.520 Rayshawn Buchanan: But yeah, that's our style. 167 00:19:32.530 --> 00:19:39.340 Mike Marcangelo: Were you expecting something different from, from the Pittsburgh offense, just given what we've been seeing over the. 168 00:19:39.340 --> 00:19:43.229 Rayshawn Buchanan: They did the Jets, and yeah, I was. 169 00:19:44.360 --> 00:19:58.460 Rayshawn Buchanan: But like I said, I… clearly, like, our defense, for the most part, showed up. Once again, you just… when you're given a short field, and you're coming back on the field right after, but they won the time of possession. Like, they was out there, they… we won the time of possession. 170 00:19:58.460 --> 00:20:11.060 Rayshawn Buchanan: By a mile. So, it's just like… but yeah, I would… I was shocked they didn't come out here and have a little more, you know, a little more juice, but… I… I don't know, man. I… I just, to me… 171 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:19.289 Rayshawn Buchanan: If you had told me in any part of Aaron Rodgers' career, that he comes into here. 172 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:21.769 Rayshawn Buchanan: Those are under M150? 173 00:20:21.950 --> 00:20:23.370 Rayshawn Buchanan: And they win? 174 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:30.830 Rayshawn Buchanan: I would've been… I would have looked just like you was crazy. And the fact that they came here, and he had a very subpar performance. 175 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:36.380 Rayshawn Buchanan: To say the least. And you lose that game, like, it's, it's, it's, it's commonly. 176 00:20:36.750 --> 00:20:40.020 Rayshawn Buchanan: Under… under 150 and a turnover, and they still won. 177 00:20:40.430 --> 00:20:44.149 Rayshawn Buchanan: But this is the thing, and someone shared this stat with me earlier. 178 00:20:44.280 --> 00:20:50.720 Rayshawn Buchanan: And Mike Vrabel's last 27 games as a head coach, he's now 7-20. 179 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:56.070 Rayshawn Buchanan: So, to do with the information what you will, but… 180 00:20:56.070 --> 00:20:58.279 Mike Marcangelo: So you'd rather have dried mayoes, what you're saying? 181 00:20:58.460 --> 00:21:00.219 Rayshawn Buchanan: I just want someone that can do something there. 182 00:21:00.220 --> 00:21:02.860 Mike Marcangelo: No, no, no way are you even. 183 00:21:02.860 --> 00:21:06.379 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, no, no, no, I'm saying, but it's unfortunate that that's what… 184 00:21:06.650 --> 00:21:23.000 Rayshawn Buchanan: that that's another… like, that shouldn't have been the loss, that should have been the 20th loss of 27 games. That's what I'm really getting at. And it shouldn't have been that. Like, that should have been another win under his belt, should have been the first home victory of the year, and they tricked off another game because I'm just looking for football. But that's coaching. 185 00:21:23.080 --> 00:21:28.969 Rayshawn Buchanan: That's coaching. The penalty is the… that's coaching. It is. Just like last year, it was coaching. 186 00:21:28.970 --> 00:21:34.619 Mike Marcangelo: But do you think penalties are the reasons why they lost this game? I will say that two penalties kept one drive alive. 187 00:21:34.750 --> 00:21:40.670 Mike Marcangelo: But I think 5 turnovers and 2 of those led to touchdowns, that's it. That has to be it. 188 00:21:40.670 --> 00:21:48.160 Rayshawn Buchanan: Well, sure, but this… the turnovers, for sure, was more glaring, but it's the… 189 00:21:49.260 --> 00:21:53.539 Rayshawn Buchanan: I don't know, and we were spoiled here for so long to see… 190 00:21:53.650 --> 00:21:56.979 Rayshawn Buchanan: The other team always find a way to screw up here. Always. 191 00:21:56.980 --> 00:21:57.590 Mike Marcangelo: Yep. 192 00:21:57.590 --> 00:21:59.449 Rayshawn Buchanan: So the fact that we've been… 193 00:21:59.560 --> 00:22:03.439 Rayshawn Buchanan: or now become the laughingstock again. 194 00:22:03.660 --> 00:22:10.470 Rayshawn Buchanan: It's a joke. It's a joke. And… 195 00:22:10.980 --> 00:22:18.880 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm just… I'm sick of losing games at Foxboro. I'm sick of losing games up there. I just am. It's one thing you get smoked on the road, okay, whatever, that happens. 196 00:22:19.040 --> 00:22:26.030 Rayshawn Buchanan: But the fact that teams feel so comfortable to come into fight, and I keep, I keep saying this, people are so comfortable. 197 00:22:26.860 --> 00:22:29.860 Rayshawn Buchanan: But it's across the board here in Boston. 198 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:37.369 Rayshawn Buchanan: It's not just with the Patriots. People coming to Fenway, even though the wrestlers had a better home record this year than they have had in the past, but… 199 00:22:37.510 --> 00:22:49.469 Rayshawn Buchanan: People coming to Fenway, comfortable. Coming to TD, for the Bruins and Celtics, comfortable. I don't understand it. And I'm pretty sure, and I don't watch them, but I'm pretty sure people coming to Gillette for the Revolution, and they get comfortable. 200 00:22:49.700 --> 00:23:04.189 Rayshawn Buchanan: I just, I don't, I don't understand how you come up here, and you kick your feet up in their house, eat the nachos, have a couple of beers, couple of hot dogs, maybe some lemonade, kiss the baby. 201 00:23:04.190 --> 00:23:09.989 Rayshawn Buchanan: And then, you know, you get a win. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable to me. Unbelievable. 202 00:23:11.220 --> 00:23:15.219 Mike Marcangelo: The Patriots are… 15 and 28 at home. 203 00:23:16.190 --> 00:23:17.850 Mike Marcangelo: Since Tom Brady left. 204 00:23:17.850 --> 00:23:19.010 Rayshawn Buchanan: 15 and 28. 205 00:23:19.010 --> 00:23:27.350 Mike Marcangelo: That includes 500. I mean, I mean, that's less than 50%, yeah. That is a 3-16 since the start of the 2023 season. 206 00:23:27.530 --> 00:23:31.430 Rayshawn Buchanan: 316. The only 316 I know is the Stone Cold Steve Wall. 207 00:23:33.610 --> 00:23:42.630 Rayshawn Buchanan: Well, yeah, pretty much, but talk about your Psalms, talk about your Johns 3.16. Well, Gillette 3.16 says you just came in there and got a victory. 208 00:23:42.890 --> 00:23:43.460 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, you just. 209 00:23:43.460 --> 00:23:43.780 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah. 210 00:23:43.780 --> 00:23:44.370 Mike Marcangelo: my ass. 211 00:23:44.370 --> 00:23:47.279 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, you just get my ass right. Crazy. Unbelievable. 212 00:23:47.830 --> 00:23:48.440 Rayshawn Buchanan: Unbelievable. 213 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:56.499 Mike Marcangelo: It's argu… you know, listen, the Patriots defense is missing, their star playmaker, obviously Christian Gonzalez. 214 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:57.730 Mike Marcangelo: I think… 215 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:11.390 Mike Marcangelo: I don't know that him being there on Saturday, or on Sunday would have helped, because if you look… just… just look at what we did to their receiving core. The leading receiver is Calvin Austin, 3 catches, 34 yards. Jalen Warren, 5 catches, 34 yards. 216 00:24:11.550 --> 00:24:13.919 Mike Marcangelo: DK Metcalf, 3 catches, 32 hits. 217 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:15.420 Mike Marcangelo: I mean… 218 00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:16.010 Rayshawn Buchanan: Hmm? 219 00:24:16.010 --> 00:24:19.760 Mike Marcangelo: The problem was, is that you invested so much in this offseason. 220 00:24:19.990 --> 00:24:24.990 Mike Marcangelo: To get the pass rush back. Specifically for a game like this. 221 00:24:24.990 --> 00:24:25.630 Rayshawn Buchanan: Hmm? 222 00:24:26.470 --> 00:24:31.720 Mike Marcangelo: And because Rodgers can still get rid of the ball so quickly, I mean… 223 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:38.730 Mike Marcangelo: it just wasn't there. I mean, again, he dropped back 20, wait, three times. 224 00:24:39.060 --> 00:24:42.539 Mike Marcangelo: And he had zero sacks for zero yards. 225 00:24:42.540 --> 00:24:43.280 Rayshawn Buchanan: Hmm? 226 00:24:44.040 --> 00:24:46.759 Mike Marcangelo: That can't happen. Like, Milton Williams, what are you doing? 227 00:24:47.190 --> 00:24:49.589 Rayshawn Buchanan: Especially at 55 years old, yeah, it's crazy. 228 00:24:50.670 --> 00:24:51.670 Rayshawn Buchanan: Whoa. 229 00:24:52.750 --> 00:24:55.220 Mike Marcangelo: What's going on with that? What's going on with Christian Gonzalez? 230 00:24:56.570 --> 00:25:04.809 Rayshawn Buchanan: I think that they want to give him a full week. I don't agree with it, but I think they wanted to give him a full week to have practice and then come back against Carolina. 231 00:25:05.630 --> 00:25:20.569 Rayshawn Buchanan: I hope it's just that, I hope it's not more than that. I'm getting frustrated, because I want to see him on the field. I don't want him lumped in with guys that could have been great here, and we don't see it because of injury. 232 00:25:20.770 --> 00:25:25.479 Rayshawn Buchanan: So yeah, I hope that he's come back and he's ready to rock and roll. 233 00:25:25.620 --> 00:25:29.619 Rayshawn Buchanan: once again, they got, they got Ted McMillan, they have, 234 00:25:30.550 --> 00:25:33.849 Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, they got Xavier Leguette from, South Carolina. 235 00:25:35.430 --> 00:25:43.699 Rayshawn Buchanan: I forget who this hiding is, but, you know, so they got some players there, but not to the point that they should come into here and win. 236 00:25:43.860 --> 00:25:49.229 Rayshawn Buchanan: So, I… yeah, I don't know, but hopefully he comes back. 237 00:25:49.300 --> 00:25:59.799 Mike Marcangelo: Once again, even if it's the packages, but hopefully he should be out there Sunday. He should be. Before we get into previewing the game and making our weekly picks. 238 00:26:00.210 --> 00:26:13.839 Mike Marcangelo: what was… and the… you can't say turnovers, so that's… that is… that cannot be it. What was the… the number… what was the biggest issue you saw for the Patriots team, against the Steelers? 239 00:26:14.090 --> 00:26:15.410 Rayshawn Buchanan: The lack of pass rush. 240 00:26:16.380 --> 00:26:23.140 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right? Like a patchwork. Like I say, you have to get there. You have to get there. 241 00:26:24.020 --> 00:26:34.500 Rayshawn Buchanan: I know it's hard to hurry up someone as good as Aaron Rodgers, because he doesn't get sped up, especially at this stage of his career. But you gotta get there at least once. Gotta get there. 242 00:26:35.380 --> 00:26:40.659 Rayshawn Buchanan: Because him having to clean pocket. Now, granted, he didn't pick you apart like he could, like he can, at times. 243 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:42.039 Mike Marcangelo: Like, he could've. 244 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:54.240 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, like, yeah, you know what I'm saying? So that wasn't the case, but… or even if he just did what he did at week one. Like, because that's what it felt like. You would have thought that, damn, he came in here and did what he did week one against us, and that was not the case. 245 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:55.600 Mike Marcangelo: Yep. 246 00:26:55.600 --> 00:27:12.799 Rayshawn Buchanan: I think he was just motivated to go, and hey, I'm happy that he came out here and said, hey, I'm gonna give the Jets whatever I can give at this moment in my career, and he did. So, cool. So it's good to know that he can still, you know, give us, you know, somewhat of a performance when he needs to, but… 247 00:27:12.800 --> 00:27:18.790 Mike Marcangelo: It's just… the frustrating part is, is, like, you saw what happened to him in Seattle when he was under arrest. 248 00:27:19.230 --> 00:27:21.480 Mike Marcangelo: He can't break away anymore. 249 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:28.060 Mike Marcangelo: It can't… I mean, he can still throw on the run better than, I'd say, like, a third of the NFL can. 250 00:27:28.190 --> 00:27:29.549 Mike Marcangelo: But he's lost that. 251 00:27:29.550 --> 00:27:38.100 Rayshawn Buchanan: It's actually pretty ridiculous how he still can sling it from… like, it's wild. Like… Yeah. Yeah, him on the run, yeah, is… is… is… 252 00:27:38.230 --> 00:27:41.180 Rayshawn Buchanan: Still… he's, yeah, still very elite. Still very elite. 253 00:27:41.710 --> 00:27:51.359 Mike Marcangelo: you didn't even put him in a position to have to do that. That's the aggravating part. You spent, what was it, $100 million in the offseason on your pass rush? 254 00:27:51.490 --> 00:27:56.450 Mike Marcangelo: And… You couldn't get a 41-year-old Aaron Rodgers. 255 00:27:56.800 --> 00:27:57.210 Rayshawn Buchanan: Mmm. 256 00:27:57.210 --> 00:28:00.909 Mike Marcangelo: as Phil Simms used to say, every single fucking week, off the spot. 257 00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:06.360 Rayshawn Buchanan: We've seen Brady at 41 not get tackled at times either, so… I mean… 258 00:28:06.360 --> 00:28:07.229 Mike Marcangelo: You know, but you just. 259 00:28:07.230 --> 00:28:12.159 Rayshawn Buchanan: And Brady was still stationary, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't running. So… 260 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.210 Mike Marcangelo: I refuse to compare the two. 261 00:28:14.540 --> 00:28:18.369 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I'm talking about at the age, I'm saying, like, he was… he just wasn't… he wasn't mobile. That's not… 262 00:28:18.370 --> 00:28:19.040 Mike Marcangelo: Sure. 263 00:28:19.040 --> 00:28:23.889 Rayshawn Buchanan: Well, that's all I'm saying, of course. Once again, I've always thought that Brady was… 264 00:28:24.370 --> 00:28:28.900 Rayshawn Buchanan: better than Ryan. Like, the only person to me that you can even… 265 00:28:29.190 --> 00:28:39.110 Rayshawn Buchanan: put in the… I mean, people are gonna say Mahomes, but it's not to me, it's Payne Manning. You put them… but other than that, I'm not… I'm not here. If you ever argue with somebody else, I'm not… I'm not listening. 266 00:28:39.110 --> 00:28:44.789 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, we can go down too much of a rabbit hole, but, like, just to… just to quote DK says, I'll, like. 267 00:28:44.790 --> 00:28:53.819 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, but I wanted to say this too, and I hope I didn't lose my point, but oh, it was something with the offense. Oh, they're going on 4th downs. 268 00:28:54.250 --> 00:29:01.739 Rayshawn Buchanan: I loved that. Loved it. Loved it. Me too. Loved it, loved it. I need more of that. Like… 269 00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:03.470 Mike Marcangelo: Four of five. Four of five. 270 00:29:03.470 --> 00:29:23.030 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I need more of that. So, Mike Rayro, get your, you know, get your play calls together, get, you know, get the aggressiveness going, get that flowing. Once again, that shows in your team that you believe in them, and that they can go get a first down. So, I'm here for it. I'm here for it. And once again, you should have been 5 for 5. Should have been 5 for 5. Should have been. 271 00:29:23.030 --> 00:29:24.520 Rayshawn Buchanan: Should've been 5 for 5. 272 00:29:24.520 --> 00:29:27.300 Rayshawn Buchanan: But, you know, you have… 273 00:29:29.010 --> 00:29:38.569 Rayshawn Buchanan: I just wish that, you know, especially with Bill Parcells being there, I wish that Rabel had went full Parcells and called Demario Douglas she, like he did with Terry Glenn. 274 00:29:38.820 --> 00:29:39.560 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, that… 275 00:29:39.560 --> 00:29:42.959 Mike Marcangelo: Oh, you can't do that. In 2025, you get canceled, too. 276 00:29:44.320 --> 00:29:45.179 Mike Marcangelo: Can't do that. 277 00:29:45.180 --> 00:29:50.160 Rayshawn Buchanan: hey, he canceled his channel, so it's okay. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. 278 00:29:51.670 --> 00:29:56.619 Mike Marcangelo: So, the Carolina Panthers come into… come into Gillette Stadium, this week. 279 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:14.850 Mike Marcangelo: And they are… they are fresh off of a 30-0 win over the Atlanta Falcons. Again, just think about this stat line. The Carolina Panthers beat the Atlanta Falcons 30-0. Bryce Young was 16-24 for 121 yards. No touchdowns, no picks. 280 00:30:15.700 --> 00:30:18.909 Mike Marcangelo: Their rushers ran 30 times for 110 yards. 281 00:30:19.660 --> 00:30:26.030 Mike Marcangelo: I mean, This offense is an offense that we should be able to shut down. 282 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.440 Mike Marcangelo: But it's at home, so now I'm questioning things. 283 00:30:31.750 --> 00:30:37.860 Rayshawn Buchanan: If Bryce Young comes in with, like, Steve Birdline, or Jake DeLoam. 284 00:30:38.300 --> 00:30:40.320 Rayshawn Buchanan: Or even Cam Newton's prime. 285 00:30:40.820 --> 00:30:41.930 Mike Marcangelo: Ready, tester, ready. 286 00:30:42.490 --> 00:30:47.760 Rayshawn Buchanan: I forgot, I forgot he played. Wow. 287 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:55.310 Rayshawn Buchanan: if their running backs come in, like Deshaun Foster, Steven Davis, Mike Tolbert, like, if anybody… 288 00:30:55.310 --> 00:30:56.420 Mike Marcangelo: Christian McCaffrey. 289 00:30:56.420 --> 00:30:57.720 Rayshawn Buchanan: McCaffrey, like, they come in. 290 00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:58.230 Mike Marcangelo: Just all day. 291 00:30:58.300 --> 00:31:00.370 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm going to… I'm going to… 292 00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:09.670 Rayshawn Buchanan: like, flip my wig. I'm going to, because it's like, it's unbelievable. I'm telling you, teams in general come up here real comfortable. 293 00:31:10.070 --> 00:31:14.369 Rayshawn Buchanan: It's unbelievable how comfortable teams are in this building. It's wild to me. 294 00:31:14.500 --> 00:31:15.630 Rayshawn Buchanan: is wild. 295 00:31:16.620 --> 00:31:19.819 Mike Marcangelo: If the Carolina Panthers come in here, and they get a win. 296 00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:33.619 Mike Marcangelo: Rayshawn Buchanan is going to set up the TV stand that he has for his TV… that he's had for a couple of years so far, just to fucking smash it. Just to smash it. You can't lose to Bryce, you can't lose to fucking Chubba. 297 00:31:34.100 --> 00:31:36.729 Mike Marcangelo: I… I just reject. Trevo Hubbard? 298 00:31:36.730 --> 00:31:39.990 Rayshawn Buchanan: I like him a lot. I like Chuck Barber, I like Chuck a lot. I think he's… 299 00:31:40.550 --> 00:31:41.650 Rayshawn Buchanan: What do you like about them? 300 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:47.749 Rayshawn Buchanan: I think he's a decent running back, but it's just like, not… I don't care about his name. I think he's a decent running back. 301 00:31:48.370 --> 00:31:54.830 Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, but like I said, but he's not someone that should come in here and give him a 50, I know that. That shouldn't happen. 302 00:31:55.060 --> 00:31:57.100 Rayshawn Buchanan: So, they better figure it out come Sunday. 303 00:31:57.260 --> 00:32:12.960 Mike Marcangelo: What if… so, let me ask you a question. What if Bryce Shoem has a similar stat line? Let's just… let's just amp it up a little bit. Let's say he goes 21 of 29 for 225 yards, 1 touchdown, no picks. Chevo Hubbard goes 19 carries for 110 yards of a touchdown. 304 00:32:14.950 --> 00:32:18.230 Rayshawn Buchanan: they pop… they… Either… 305 00:32:18.470 --> 00:32:27.410 Rayshawn Buchanan: either it goes down to the wire, or Carolina probably wins that game, which is insane to me, but that's… once again, they just won 30 to nothing. 306 00:32:29.170 --> 00:32:33.579 Rayshawn Buchanan: Atlanta's not very good, but it's just, like, I would like to think that we're better than Atlanta. 307 00:32:34.260 --> 00:32:35.589 Rayshawn Buchanan: I would like to think that. 308 00:32:37.170 --> 00:32:45.020 Mike Marcangelo: I mean, are we? Offensively, we are. We should be. We are. We're better offensively. We don't have as many weapons, but somehow we are better offensively than they are. 309 00:32:47.110 --> 00:32:48.220 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I… 310 00:32:48.220 --> 00:32:50.480 Mike Marcangelo: I mean, I'd take… I would take Drake over Penix. 311 00:32:50.820 --> 00:32:51.270 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right. 312 00:32:51.270 --> 00:32:52.390 Mike Marcangelo: Every single day of the week. 313 00:32:52.390 --> 00:32:52.890 Rayshawn Buchanan: We put… 314 00:32:52.890 --> 00:32:53.210 Mike Marcangelo: I would… 315 00:32:53.210 --> 00:32:54.949 Rayshawn Buchanan: 71 years old, so yeah. 316 00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.439 Mike Marcangelo: I'd take Bijan over any one of our running backs. 317 00:32:58.750 --> 00:32:59.480 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm sure. 318 00:33:00.060 --> 00:33:03.490 Mike Marcangelo: And I'd take Drake London, Darnell Mooney, and Kyle Pitts. 319 00:33:04.650 --> 00:33:08.179 Mike Marcangelo: Over… I would say most of our skilled players do. 320 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.229 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm… listen, I'm… if it doesn't work for Kyle Pitts this year, I told… I said this in the. 321 00:33:14.490 --> 00:33:15.399 Mike Marcangelo: Bring him up here. 322 00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:30.649 Rayshawn Buchanan: Listen, go get him. Elliot, go see… go get him a fifth rounder for him, and call it a day. Fifth rounder, even take off the hoop or two, take him. Take him, and bring him back home to Atlanta. Bring him back home. 323 00:33:30.650 --> 00:33:35.550 Mike Marcangelo: And you get… then you get Hunter Henry and Kyle Pitts, and Josh, and Josh's system. 324 00:33:35.550 --> 00:33:36.489 Rayshawn Buchanan: Buy me up. 325 00:33:36.890 --> 00:33:41.259 Rayshawn Buchanan: Sign me up. Like, I'm here for it. I… yeah. 326 00:33:42.090 --> 00:33:45.329 Mike Marcangelo: Is there a chance that Kyle Pitts turns into Johnny Smith? 327 00:33:46.980 --> 00:33:48.540 Rayshawn Buchanan: Carrying me, if he was there? 328 00:33:48.540 --> 00:33:53.459 Mike Marcangelo: No, I mean, just in general. I mean, Janu had one big gear calipitz hasn't had that. 329 00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:57.150 Rayshawn Buchanan: He's, he's, he's in, he's in that mold, 330 00:33:57.340 --> 00:33:59.659 Rayshawn Buchanan: I think he's better than Jono Smith, like… 331 00:33:59.660 --> 00:34:00.500 Mike Marcangelo: should be better. 332 00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:04.939 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I think he, you know, I mean, but he's also still young enough where… 333 00:34:05.120 --> 00:34:08.950 Rayshawn Buchanan: he still can make that impact, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's, what, 25, I think? 334 00:34:09.040 --> 00:34:10.179 Mike Marcangelo: Yep. 335 00:34:10.730 --> 00:34:26.059 Rayshawn Buchanan: So yeah, I would… I would… I would absolutely look to go get them if I can. If they're… if they're out of it by week 8, which is very feasible, I would… I would get Arthur Blink on the phone, or whoever, Thomas DeMuto, whoever's down there, hey, 336 00:34:26.469 --> 00:34:31.030 Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, we'd like to give y'all a fifth in Austin Hooper for Kyle Pitts. 337 00:34:32.790 --> 00:34:34.259 Mike Marcangelo: Probably wouldn't give them Austin Hooper. 338 00:34:34.520 --> 00:34:35.779 Rayshawn Buchanan: That's what I'm saying, yeah 339 00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:39.670 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah. Don't, don't, no, no, don't give Austin Hoover, just give him a fifth round. 340 00:34:42.020 --> 00:34:53.379 Rayshawn Buchanan: Oh, but I mean, yeah, I mean, that'd be cool, too. I just… I'm just saying, to me, if I'm them, I'm just like, I want to play her back, like, I'm not just gonna… like, I need to play her back. You know what I'm saying? So, 341 00:34:53.980 --> 00:34:59.040 Rayshawn Buchanan: like, Hooper, you know, I think Hooper has been somewhat productive here. 342 00:34:59.350 --> 00:35:02.649 Rayshawn Buchanan: once again, I think that with Pittsburgh being this offense. 343 00:35:03.520 --> 00:35:08.880 Rayshawn Buchanan: like, would do wonders for Drake May. Like, I got… 344 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:09.270 Mike Marcangelo: Good. 345 00:35:09.310 --> 00:35:09.950 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, absolutely. 346 00:35:09.950 --> 00:35:18.000 Mike Marcangelo: right. Should do wonders. Alright. What are your… what are the… what are the top two things that the Panthers need to do in order to come into Gillette Stadium and win? 347 00:35:21.210 --> 00:35:22.269 Rayshawn Buchanan: be competent. 348 00:35:24.100 --> 00:35:36.210 Rayshawn Buchanan: be confident and run the football. But this, so, this is why I keep saying this, and I know, you know, you've gotten on me, Dave's gotten on me, I think even Bobby at times. 349 00:35:36.780 --> 00:35:41.070 Rayshawn Buchanan: But this is why I keep saying about the run sets up the pass. 350 00:35:41.670 --> 00:35:56.209 Rayshawn Buchanan: When you're able to run the football, it opens up everything, because they're so worried about what's gonna happen in that, in that, you know, between the gaps, that now you could throw something over the top, even if it's just a little crossing route, you could just throw it over the top. 351 00:35:56.210 --> 00:36:02.780 Rayshawn Buchanan: the run sets up the pass, like, you gotta have people run the ball. So, like. 352 00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:04.059 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, we do. 353 00:36:04.060 --> 00:36:09.609 Rayshawn Buchanan: We do, but no, I'm saying, you gotta have a guy that can run it, so… But yeah, but be confident. 354 00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:11.410 Mike Marcangelo: And… 355 00:36:12.010 --> 00:36:15.840 Rayshawn Buchanan: Just don't turn the ball over 5 times, and you could come in here and get a win. 356 00:36:16.110 --> 00:36:16.930 Rayshawn Buchanan: So… 357 00:36:18.470 --> 00:36:30.620 Mike Marcangelo: Okay, now let's get just a little more positivity here. How confident are you in the Patriots giving the victory? Obviously, don't pick them yet. But what do you think they need to do? Like, do they need to do anything special in order to beat the Carolina Panthers? 358 00:36:31.380 --> 00:36:34.820 Rayshawn Buchanan: Not special, but just, just make, just make timely plays. 359 00:36:35.020 --> 00:36:45.510 Rayshawn Buchanan: play sound football, right? So, whether that's getting to the, you know, make sure you tackle, make sure you're not missing assignments, 360 00:36:45.710 --> 00:36:53.010 Rayshawn Buchanan: So once again, just literally doing the basics of what got you to the league. Doing the basics should win you the game. 361 00:36:53.310 --> 00:36:59.409 Rayshawn Buchanan: Do your job. We've heard that for a million years here. Do your job, you win the game. That simple. 362 00:36:59.830 --> 00:37:09.410 Rayshawn Buchanan: because that was, again, they've gotten better offensively, they've shown a pass rush at times, you're possibly getting your best player back on defense, you know, come Sunday, so… 363 00:37:09.410 --> 00:37:26.240 Rayshawn Buchanan: even if he is just in… even if he just plays 15 to 20 snaps, like, you're better with him on the field, because everyone goes back into their natural position. But I also… I meant to say this, too, because I just… it slipped my mind, but I know you thought about it, you just forgot to bring it up. 364 00:37:27.630 --> 00:37:29.710 Rayshawn Buchanan: at the Wish You Saw Sunday. 365 00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:35.429 Rayshawn Buchanan: you cannot tell me that Jabril Peppers could not still have made an impact on this team. 366 00:37:37.640 --> 00:37:45.340 Mike Marcangelo: Well, I was thinking about that too, but he's not fast enough. He's just not what they're looking for. I mean… 367 00:37:45.540 --> 00:37:53.649 Rayshawn Buchanan: Someone that can hit someone and possibly knock the ball out, and… no, no, of course not. Why not? 368 00:37:53.650 --> 00:37:56.559 Mike Marcangelo: I mean, what are you gonna do? You gonna put him one-on-one with DK Metcalf? 369 00:37:57.890 --> 00:38:06.759 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I mean, that… I mean, they put Carlton Davis, but Carlton Davis don't do much. Once again, I'm not a fan of him yet. He has to earn my respect. But. 370 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:11.069 Mike Marcangelo: Well, week one did a really hard… I mean, he… he made it really fucking tough for you. 371 00:38:11.240 --> 00:38:23.790 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. But no, they… it looks like they're putting Mapple on those guys now. Marte Mapple's the guy that they're putting on the tight ends and the DK Metcalf type of receivers, so… 372 00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:29.289 Rayshawn Buchanan: You have that, but once again, you just talked about you got 23 out of 53. 373 00:38:29.410 --> 00:38:35.349 Rayshawn Buchanan: That's a little… maybe a little over 40%, maybe? 45%-ish players? 374 00:38:35.980 --> 00:38:37.369 Rayshawn Buchanan: That's not good enough. 375 00:38:37.870 --> 00:38:44.069 Rayshawn Buchanan: It's not good. It's not. So, there's no way… you're not telling me that Gibralt peppers couldn't have made some type of impact here. 376 00:38:44.250 --> 00:38:46.189 Rayshawn Buchanan: Even if it was a lemonade roll. No way. 377 00:38:46.190 --> 00:38:48.449 Mike Marcangelo: Didn't he si- didn't he sign with Pittsburgh? 378 00:38:48.450 --> 00:38:50.489 Rayshawn Buchanan: Sure did, that's why I brought it up, yeah. 379 00:38:50.490 --> 00:38:51.090 Mike Marcangelo: Yep. 380 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.549 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I'm saying, he played well for them on Sunday. 381 00:38:54.940 --> 00:39:02.789 Mike Marcangelo: I just… for some reason, I just have flashbacks of John Deuce Smith cooking Jabil Peppers, when he was on the Dolphins, like. 382 00:39:02.950 --> 00:39:03.939 Mike Marcangelo: Four times. 383 00:39:05.790 --> 00:39:08.580 Rayshawn Buchanan: But Jonathan Smith, when, when, when… 384 00:39:09.140 --> 00:39:15.100 Rayshawn Buchanan: when he produced, like, he was actually a pretty decent tenant, which is why he got the money he got here. 385 00:39:15.600 --> 00:39:25.310 Rayshawn Buchanan: he could play, it just, unfortunately, it just was too much up here, unfortunately, but he could play. Everywhere else he's produced. You know, but yeah. So… 386 00:39:27.010 --> 00:39:34.539 Mike Marcangelo: You don't seem too positive, which is my favorite version of you, Mr. Hollywood. So let's run down week 4 of the NFL, shall we? 387 00:39:34.540 --> 00:39:35.360 Rayshawn Buchanan: Let's do it. 388 00:39:35.580 --> 00:39:44.889 Mike Marcangelo: Seattle, visits Arizona. That will be, Thursday Night Football. Currently, Seattle is a, is a 1.5 point favorite. 389 00:39:44.930 --> 00:39:46.479 Rayshawn Buchanan: So, who you got? 390 00:39:46.990 --> 00:39:55.460 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm right away, Arizona. I think that they're… I know they lost James Carter, but, you know, what else is new? Unfortunately, he's always out, he's always injured. 391 00:39:55.590 --> 00:40:03.730 Rayshawn Buchanan: But I just think that they're a better team. I know that Seattle had a good win against, New Orleans on Sunday. They smoked them, but… 392 00:40:04.420 --> 00:40:13.320 Rayshawn Buchanan: Arizona and New Orleans, so I think that, obviously, pick them would be in one and a half, obviously, but, I'm gonna ride with Arizona. 393 00:40:14.270 --> 00:40:27.270 Mike Marcangelo: Minnesota travels to Pittsburgh, well, no, I actually don't think that's true. Minnesota and Pittsburgh both travel to Ireland for a 9.30 a.m. start. Minnesota is favored by 2.5 points. What do you got? 394 00:40:27.970 --> 00:40:31.720 Rayshawn Buchanan: I think Minnesota smokes them. I do. 395 00:40:31.850 --> 00:40:34.300 Rayshawn Buchanan: Aaron Rodgers is gonna be pissed to be over there. 396 00:40:34.300 --> 00:40:36.159 Mike Marcangelo: You think Carson Wentz is just gonna go off? 397 00:40:36.860 --> 00:40:42.859 Rayshawn Buchanan: I mean, we saw what happened Sunday. I'm not… he didn't go off Sunday, but I'm saying, but we saw them put up 50, almost. 398 00:40:43.190 --> 00:40:47.740 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, I… now, granted, it's a neutral… it's a neutral field, so we'll see what happens, but… 399 00:40:48.030 --> 00:40:58.429 Rayshawn Buchanan: Aaron Rodgers being 94 years old, going across the pond, like, I don't see a good, I don't see good football being produced from him, so I'm gonna ride with Minnesota. 400 00:40:58.940 --> 00:41:12.379 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I'm gonna take Minnesota, too. That's just mostly because I fucking hate Aaron Rodgers, and I hope the Steelers lose every game. With Commanders at the Falcons at the 1 o'clock game, Commanders are only favored in this game by one and a half points, that doesn't make any sense. 401 00:41:12.380 --> 00:41:13.509 Rayshawn Buchanan: comedy. My wife. 402 00:41:13.510 --> 00:41:15.920 Mike Marcangelo: That's cr- that- that's crazy. 403 00:41:16.160 --> 00:41:24.570 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, that's… that's a… that's a no-brainer, that's a no-doubter, like, Washington wins that. 404 00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:35.180 Mike Marcangelo: The problem is, though, Vegas usually knows something that we don't. They all… there's a reason why this over… you know, that the spread is… is this. 405 00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.989 Mike Marcangelo: I think that's really fucking laughable, though. 406 00:41:39.570 --> 00:41:41.339 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, one and a half is crazy. 407 00:41:41.590 --> 00:41:42.300 Mike Marcangelo: It's crazy. 408 00:41:42.810 --> 00:41:48.729 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I'll take… I'll take the commanders, too. New Orleans travels up to Buffalo, Buffalo's favorite. 409 00:41:48.730 --> 00:41:53.270 Rayshawn Buchanan: That's crazy. That's just as crazy as the one and a half. That's crazy. 410 00:41:53.270 --> 00:42:05.580 Mike Marcangelo: What do you think's crazier? What is least likely to happen? The Bills win by more than 16 points? Or that the Commanders win by less than a point? 411 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:20.160 Rayshawn Buchanan: I still think it's the Bills, like, this is an NFL team, bro, like, 17 is crazy, like, that's wild. That's wild! 17 points, bro? That's a lot, like… 412 00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:28.880 Rayshawn Buchanan: like, you're probably gonna be on the line. Like, granted, New Orleans is not a good team, and we talked about this, like, we were spot on about New Orleans not being good. 413 00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:32.680 Rayshawn Buchanan: Obviously, the Bills are going to win, I just, I don't know… 414 00:42:32.810 --> 00:42:43.730 Rayshawn Buchanan: If there ever was a trap game, and I'm not saying a trap game, they're gonna lose, but I'll say a trap game, like, New Orleans might keep it close for a little bit, and then they get, they get blown out, but 17's a lot. That's a lot. 415 00:42:43.730 --> 00:42:47.870 Mike Marcangelo: 16.5 points is wild, like you said, for two NFL themes. 416 00:42:47.870 --> 00:42:48.370 Rayshawn Buchanan: Damn. 417 00:42:48.370 --> 00:42:53.820 Mike Marcangelo: I also think that this is… this is a game that Josh Allen and the Bills have typically slept on. 418 00:42:54.030 --> 00:42:55.470 Rayshawn Buchanan: And almost lost. 419 00:42:55.470 --> 00:43:03.929 Mike Marcangelo: So if I were you, I would take New Orleans, for the spread, but I would take, you know, I would obviously pick the Buffalo women's game. 420 00:43:03.930 --> 00:43:04.890 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right. 421 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.960 Mike Marcangelo: Cleveland at Detroit. Looks like the, you know, it looks like the Lions are back. 422 00:43:09.100 --> 00:43:10.210 Mike Marcangelo: Cleveland… 423 00:43:10.210 --> 00:43:10.620 Rayshawn Buchanan: Hmm? 424 00:43:10.620 --> 00:43:14.349 Mike Marcangelo: I mean, their offense is fucking anemic. 425 00:43:14.750 --> 00:43:18.700 Rayshawn Buchanan: How about that, though? And them coming back, 426 00:43:19.100 --> 00:43:22.690 Rayshawn Buchanan: and winning against Green Bay, I said, wow. 427 00:43:22.820 --> 00:43:24.899 Mike Marcangelo: Doesn't help my Jordan Love narrative, I can tell you that. 428 00:43:24.900 --> 00:43:29.819 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I mean, same here, but I'm like… but… but that's another quick aside, too, right? 429 00:43:30.170 --> 00:43:41.220 Rayshawn Buchanan: we're seeing a lot of mediocre quarterback play across the league. Like, if you're throwing for under 200, I want y'all to know, ladies and gentlemen, that's mediocre. There's nothing cool about… even 225, I'm like… 430 00:43:41.470 --> 00:43:50.359 Rayshawn Buchanan: anything 250 and above, I'm like, alright, but you're throwing barely 200 yards, like, you're not that good. It's not that good. 431 00:43:50.360 --> 00:44:03.119 Mike Marcangelo: Well, I think that the difference would be if you're, like, 11… if you're, like, 14 of 18 for 220 yards, that means that your team probably won that game handily. And you ran the ball. But if you're dropping back 27 times. 432 00:44:03.120 --> 00:44:07.129 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, and 11 to 27 for, like, 202? Like, that's… 433 00:44:07.130 --> 00:44:13.470 Mike Marcangelo: Or, like, Aaron Rodgers is 18 of 24, or 16 of 24 for $1.37? Like, you're out of your fucking mind? Are you out of your mind? 434 00:44:13.470 --> 00:44:20.380 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, right, right. And I'm just like, mind you, and Drake was 20 or 37, I'm like, dude, throw it 50 times. Like, what are we doing? 435 00:44:22.690 --> 00:44:24.650 Rayshawn Buchanan: I assume that you're taking Detroit? 436 00:44:24.890 --> 00:44:27.489 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yes, I mean, they're back, baby, they're back! 437 00:44:27.490 --> 00:44:34.349 Mike Marcangelo: Any chance, any chance we see, we have a Dylan Gabriel or a… or a Shadora Sanders sighting in this game? 438 00:44:34.600 --> 00:44:40.879 Rayshawn Buchanan: Might be Dylan Gabriel, but I think they're hell-bent on not letting Sugar play this year. 439 00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:42.170 Mike Marcangelo: So stupid. 440 00:44:42.170 --> 00:44:45.790 Rayshawn Buchanan: It is stupid, but I think they tried to stick it to him, which is unfortunate, but it is what it is. 441 00:44:45.790 --> 00:44:47.049 Mike Marcangelo: So, like, why draft him? 442 00:44:48.700 --> 00:44:53.429 Rayshawn Buchanan: who knows? I don't know, and I can't say because they felt the pressure, because it was in the fifth round, so it wasn't like… 443 00:44:53.430 --> 00:44:54.280 Mike Marcangelo: He would've… 444 00:44:54.510 --> 00:45:00.660 Mike Marcangelo: I'm just gonna double down on the take that I made in the offseason, like, before the draft. The perfect place for Shador would have been New Orleans. 445 00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:06.419 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially with what they got going on right now, like… 446 00:45:06.600 --> 00:45:11.750 Rayshawn Buchanan: You're telling me that Tyler Shaw and Spencer Rowler are the answers? 447 00:45:12.010 --> 00:45:14.629 Mike Marcangelo: No! No, you got, you got Kumar… 448 00:45:14.630 --> 00:45:15.140 Rayshawn Buchanan: I don't keep… 449 00:45:15.140 --> 00:45:16.120 Mike Marcangelo: Lave… 450 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:16.690 Rayshawn Buchanan: Ew. 451 00:45:16.690 --> 00:45:22.509 Mike Marcangelo: I mean, should or could've done something there. Carolina, over here, Carolina comes up to New England. 452 00:45:23.070 --> 00:45:27.490 Mike Marcangelo: This used to be such a win. New England spared by 5.5 points. 453 00:45:27.490 --> 00:45:29.680 Rayshawn Buchanan: That's… that's laughable to me. 454 00:45:30.500 --> 00:45:31.790 Rayshawn Buchanan: That's laughable. 455 00:45:32.950 --> 00:45:39.450 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, two and a half would have been… I'd have been okay, but 5? You said Joe was beaten up by a touchdown? No way. No way. 456 00:45:39.710 --> 00:45:43.110 Mike Marcangelo: So you're picking Carolina in the spread, but who are you taking to win the game? 457 00:45:43.110 --> 00:45:48.869 Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I think New England wins, but I'm saying, but that's… no, no way. Not worried about a touchdown. 458 00:45:48.870 --> 00:45:55.989 Mike Marcangelo: Typically, home team gets 2 points, so really, I don't know what's more offensive, the fact that we… that they think that we're only a field goal better than Carolina? 459 00:45:56.340 --> 00:45:59.879 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I think it's gonna be 23-20. I really do. 460 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.640 Rayshawn Buchanan: I think the K gets his first game-winning field goal. 461 00:46:04.740 --> 00:46:05.150 Mike Marcangelo: Hmm. 462 00:46:05.520 --> 00:46:07.100 Rayshawn Buchanan: So, we'll see. 463 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:08.030 Mike Marcangelo: Okay? 464 00:46:08.170 --> 00:46:11.160 Mike Marcangelo: Chargers at the Giants. 465 00:46:11.700 --> 00:46:20.330 Mike Marcangelo: So this is… oh god. The Giants are going with their rookie quarterback. They are benching Russell Wilson. That took… that took long. 466 00:46:20.520 --> 00:46:22.520 Rayshawn Buchanan: I, I think that's… I think that's crazy. 467 00:46:22.780 --> 00:46:24.200 Rayshawn Buchanan: He has not been a problem. 468 00:46:25.670 --> 00:46:28.529 Mike Marcangelo: He has, but he hasn't been… he hasn't been the solution either. 469 00:46:28.530 --> 00:46:33.539 Rayshawn Buchanan: That team sucks! That team sucks overall, like, it's one thing… 470 00:46:34.060 --> 00:46:41.100 Rayshawn Buchanan: It's one thing if they were coming in, and him… them thinking he was gonna be the missing piece, like how Pittsburgh fed up by Aaron Rodgers, right? 471 00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:45.350 Rayshawn Buchanan: Or even how Pittsburgh felt about him last year, right? That's different. 472 00:46:45.510 --> 00:46:46.420 Mike Marcangelo: Yo. 473 00:46:47.120 --> 00:46:52.360 Rayshawn Buchanan: But he wasn't coming in… To be the… to be the missing piece. 474 00:46:52.540 --> 00:47:09.979 Rayshawn Buchanan: he was gonna be add-ons to what they had. And once again, he's put up some decent numbers in the last few weeks, so, we'll see, though. We'll see if he's Kurt Warner and Justin Dart is Eli. We're gonna see. We're gonna find out. 475 00:47:10.530 --> 00:47:16.419 Rayshawn Buchanan: I think the Giants will be charged up for this game, pun intended, but they still lose. 476 00:47:16.570 --> 00:47:28.430 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, Herbert's on fire. He's different. He's different right now, that team is different. And once again, it's early in the year, they're healthy. When Chargers… when Chargers teams, historically, when they're healthy, they're really good. 477 00:47:28.430 --> 00:47:29.760 Mike Marcangelo: Mine is not Jay Harris. 478 00:47:30.370 --> 00:47:31.739 Rayshawn Buchanan: Is that… is that Ian? 479 00:47:31.740 --> 00:47:34.370 Mike Marcangelo: Minus Najee Harris, he's out for the rest of the season. 480 00:47:35.990 --> 00:47:37.859 Rayshawn Buchanan: Oh, I… what happened to him? 481 00:47:39.050 --> 00:47:40.829 Mike Marcangelo: Well, he got injured. 482 00:47:40.830 --> 00:47:47.169 Rayshawn Buchanan: Oh, yeah, Angel, okay. Yeah, I feel like that's been… no, I'm gonna say, I know for some reason he got suspended, or… because I might feel like things just be happening, but… 483 00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:51.279 Mike Marcangelo: I'm pretty… I'm pretty sure he tore his Achilles. That's what they're saying. 484 00:47:51.630 --> 00:48:08.769 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, that seems to be a more apparent injury in sports, so that's like a phenomenon that is wild. But Marion Hampton, I'm a fan of him, like, I wanted him here because I thought that, you know, he played with Drake, and I was just like, why not get him? But yeah, Chargers can still win that game, though. They should still win that. 485 00:48:10.620 --> 00:48:12.090 Mike Marcangelo: So now we have… 486 00:48:12.520 --> 00:48:18.289 Mike Marcangelo: The Philadelphia Eagles traveling down to Tampa Bay to take on the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers have been, I mean, listen. 487 00:48:19.370 --> 00:48:37.459 Mike Marcangelo: Say what you want, that quarterback is so much fun to watch. Now, it's because he's… he's razor… he walks that… that really thin line, you just don't know what the fuck he's gonna do. Baker… Baker could throw for 500 yards and 5 touchdowns, he could throw for 500 yards and 5 interceptions. 488 00:48:37.460 --> 00:48:40.030 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, he's a smaller Jameis. 489 00:48:40.030 --> 00:48:41.589 Mike Marcangelo: But Philly's a wagon. 490 00:48:42.720 --> 00:48:47.079 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, that was a hell of a comeback against LA on Sunday. 491 00:48:47.900 --> 00:48:49.550 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm gonna go with Buccaneers, though. 492 00:48:50.830 --> 00:48:51.550 Rayshawn Buchanan: Okay, I… 493 00:48:51.550 --> 00:48:52.320 Mike Marcangelo: Really? 494 00:48:52.320 --> 00:49:11.669 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I think that Tampa finds a way to get it done early. Only because they're at their home. Like, if they was at… I was about to say, I was gonna show my age. They was at the vet, not the vet, if they're at the link. If they was at the link, I would choose Philadelphia, but I think that, I think that Tampa Bay would come out there. I love, 495 00:49:11.710 --> 00:49:22.150 Rayshawn Buchanan: their wide receiver from Ohio State, their rookie, Emeka, I forget how to say his last name, but, that, that dude is nice, and… 496 00:49:22.210 --> 00:49:25.460 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, they just find… they just find guys down there, so from Godwin. 497 00:49:25.460 --> 00:49:25.960 Mike Marcangelo: feels… 498 00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:26.410 Rayshawn Buchanan: It's just… 499 00:49:26.410 --> 00:49:31.960 Mike Marcangelo: It feels like they already have their replacement for Mike Evans lined up. Right. Which is fucking scary. 500 00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.510 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, he's still producing, right, so… 501 00:49:34.510 --> 00:49:36.410 Mike Marcangelo: Right, of course he is. Right, so… 502 00:49:36.410 --> 00:49:37.010 Rayshawn Buchanan: No. 503 00:49:37.390 --> 00:49:46.769 Mike Marcangelo: Two 0-3 teams, Tennessee Titans traveled to Houston, Houston started by 7.5 points, which, again, is fucking wild, especially because it's a divisional game. 504 00:49:48.120 --> 00:49:52.630 Mike Marcangelo: somebody's gotta win, I think, unless they tie, but I'm gonna take Houston. 505 00:49:53.580 --> 00:49:55.539 Rayshawn Buchanan: Give me, give me, give me Tennessee. 506 00:49:55.780 --> 00:49:57.120 Mike Marcangelo: No way. 507 00:49:57.120 --> 00:50:00.240 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm in Tennessee. I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I think that… 508 00:50:00.240 --> 00:50:03.119 Mike Marcangelo: Did you pick Houston to win 9 games? Weren't you team AOC? 509 00:50:04.430 --> 00:50:18.610 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, but this is about right now. We're not talking about the game, we're talking about right now. Right now, they suck, and they're 0-3, and I just… I just don't think that they… like, sometimes, when teams like that, when it starts to spiral like that, 510 00:50:18.700 --> 00:50:21.940 Rayshawn Buchanan: It just… it goes… it gets a lot worse before it gets better. 511 00:50:21.940 --> 00:50:40.089 Rayshawn Buchanan: And I think… and once again, I like Cam Ward coming out of, well, he was in Houston first, then he got to Miami, but I like Cam Ward. I think they've had some decent moments, they just haven't put it together. I think they put it together Sunday, and they win in the late moments of that game. I do. 512 00:50:42.430 --> 00:50:44.590 Mike Marcangelo: 0-4. Can you imagine if Houston's 0-4? 513 00:50:44.590 --> 00:50:48.850 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, listen, I'm here for the drama, so… or been happening. 514 00:50:48.850 --> 00:51:02.909 Mike Marcangelo: The undefeated Colts travel to the Rams. The Rams are fared by 3.5 points. Devonte Adams is having a renaissance. Matthew Stafford still looks good. Puku Nakua is who everyone thinks he is. 515 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:07.899 Mike Marcangelo: I… I love everything that's happening with, with Indy. 516 00:51:08.020 --> 00:51:12.359 Mike Marcangelo: I don't know why I like Daniel Jones, but I do. I think it took balls. 517 00:51:12.520 --> 00:51:14.600 Mike Marcangelo: to bench Anthony Richardson. 518 00:51:14.930 --> 00:51:19.310 Mike Marcangelo: And for it to be paying off right now, I'm really happy, but that still gave me the rents. 519 00:51:19.310 --> 00:51:25.109 Rayshawn Buchanan: But he, he, he, meaning Anthony Richardson, lost a job when he subbed out of that game last year. He lost a job. 520 00:51:25.470 --> 00:51:27.520 Rayshawn Buchanan: Lost a job, lost a team. 521 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:29.979 Rayshawn Buchanan: Probably lost the city, right? 522 00:51:30.140 --> 00:51:32.790 Rayshawn Buchanan: That can't happen. 523 00:51:32.910 --> 00:51:52.119 Rayshawn Buchanan: it just can't happen. Once again, I'm a Gator fan, you know, I thought that he was a good talent while he was there. So it's so fortunate to see his career take this type of path, even though it's self, self-imposed. But yeah, it's a cute story, what's happened there in Indianapolis, real cute, real, real cute. 524 00:51:52.820 --> 00:51:56.909 Rayshawn Buchanan: It comes to a… it comes to a stop on Sunday. 525 00:51:57.680 --> 00:52:16.989 Rayshawn Buchanan: Once again, Matt… once again, I… there's no bigger Matthewsapper supporter than the man you hear talking on 3D Airways right now. That… that dude is special, and he's been special his whole career. It just… it just took for y'all to see it on a national stage, to get these in. He's in a bigger market now. But LA, LA wins… 526 00:52:17.240 --> 00:52:20.810 Rayshawn Buchanan: Not going away, but they'll win by a touchdown, I think. 527 00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:25.850 Mike Marcangelo: Alright, so you're picking them outright and describing. Yeah. 528 00:52:26.300 --> 00:52:29.489 Mike Marcangelo: The 2-1 Jaguars travel to the 3-0 San Francisco. 529 00:52:29.490 --> 00:52:30.460 Rayshawn Buchanan: Don't you? 530 00:52:30.660 --> 00:52:38.649 Mike Marcangelo: Travel to the 3-0 San Francisco 49ers. San Francisco's only favored by 2.5 points, which is fucking wild. 531 00:52:39.220 --> 00:52:40.360 Mike Marcangelo: Listen, man. 532 00:52:40.740 --> 00:52:42.950 Mike Marcangelo: I fucking hate the Jaguars. 533 00:52:43.870 --> 00:52:45.500 Rayshawn Buchanan: I hate Trevor Lawrence. 534 00:52:46.630 --> 00:52:52.470 Mike Marcangelo: I'd love Travis Hunter. I want him to be… I want him to be good, you know, great on both sides of the ball. 535 00:52:52.640 --> 00:52:53.370 Rayshawn Buchanan: Mmm. 536 00:52:53.840 --> 00:53:01.930 Mike Marcangelo: I don't… I don't… I don't see how the Jaguars won this game. Unless Mac Jones does what Mac Jones did here. But he hasn't yet. He hasn't. 537 00:53:01.930 --> 00:53:04.300 Rayshawn Buchanan: It pisses me off. 538 00:53:04.990 --> 00:53:07.019 Rayshawn Buchanan: That he's looked that good over there. 539 00:53:07.590 --> 00:53:08.080 Mike Marcangelo: I know. 540 00:53:08.090 --> 00:53:14.759 Rayshawn Buchanan: We initially think that Kyle Shanahan, you should have dropped his ass in 2021, and we didn't have to worry about it, we just got somebody else. 541 00:53:15.710 --> 00:53:17.390 Mike Marcangelo: Everybody taking Trey Lance would have been great. 542 00:53:20.040 --> 00:53:25.519 Rayshawn Buchanan: But we say that because of what he did it, but it might have been different here, you know what I'm saying? You don't know. We don't know. 543 00:53:25.520 --> 00:53:28.240 Mike Marcangelo: Oh, with, oh, with Bill and not Patricia, he would have been different, you think? 544 00:53:28.240 --> 00:53:31.240 Rayshawn Buchanan: Whoa, 2021, I'm saying? You're saying it's 2021. Josh? 545 00:53:31.240 --> 00:53:32.600 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, yeah, okay. 546 00:53:32.600 --> 00:53:42.449 Rayshawn Buchanan: I mean, yeah, but obviously, yeah, that moved on, so he left to go to Oakland, Vegas or whatever, but, yeah, I, I… 547 00:53:43.770 --> 00:53:46.490 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm gonna still go with San Francisco, too. 548 00:53:46.490 --> 00:53:47.250 Mike Marcangelo: 100%. 549 00:53:47.250 --> 00:53:52.780 Rayshawn Buchanan: Doesn't matter who's the quarterback, I just can't believe that Matt Jones has looked that good, and back… 550 00:53:52.780 --> 00:54:02.919 Mike Marcangelo: Without a full compliment, like, it's not like it's Ayuk, it's Devo, it's Kittle. It's literally none of those guys, and he still looks just as good. 551 00:54:03.710 --> 00:54:11.880 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, so… I had a really good rapport while he was here, so that's not a shocker. Yep. That was his guy, and still is his guy, clearly, but yeah. 552 00:54:12.300 --> 00:54:17.660 Mike Marcangelo: Yep. Baltimore travels to Arrowhead, Kansas City. 553 00:54:18.930 --> 00:54:24.640 Mike Marcangelo: I think Kansas City's offense is in real trouble. You know, news alert, on breaking news to you, but, like. 554 00:54:25.120 --> 00:54:37.440 Mike Marcangelo: we saw… the one… I could compare this to, if you remember, like, 2012, Patriots, when we were… or 2013, one of those two years when it was Kendrell Tompkins and Aaron Dobson. 555 00:54:37.660 --> 00:54:40.679 Mike Marcangelo: But, I mean, Brady still had, you know, I would say Edelman. 556 00:54:41.460 --> 00:54:42.620 Rayshawn Buchanan: So I've grown, too. 557 00:54:42.970 --> 00:54:45.409 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, but he was hurt. He was really hurt in 2012. 558 00:54:45.520 --> 00:54:53.480 Mike Marcangelo: Travis Kelsey, I would argue, has cost, the Chiefs two games so far this year. 559 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:56.560 Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm so broken up. 560 00:54:57.040 --> 00:54:59.580 Mike Marcangelo: But… Bad… Listen. 561 00:55:01.290 --> 00:55:13.150 Mike Marcangelo: this could be a fall like you've never seen before, the difference between Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, or if you just want to compare the New England Patriots and the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes, there was 10 years between Super Bowl victories, between his third and his fourth. 562 00:55:13.300 --> 00:55:14.290 Mike Marcangelo: However. 563 00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:26.729 Mike Marcangelo: We were in the playoffs, literally, literally all but one year, and that's because Brady wasn't there. He got hurt. And we were in the AFC title game, like, 7 times out of those 10 years. 564 00:55:26.950 --> 00:55:29.929 Mike Marcangelo: So… Let's see if they're a dynasty. 565 00:55:29.930 --> 00:55:33.510 Rayshawn Buchanan: I mean, he has conversations every year his career. It's wild. 566 00:55:33.510 --> 00:55:35.019 Mike Marcangelo: Gimme the… give me the Ravens. 567 00:55:35.260 --> 00:55:39.120 Mike Marcangelo: Lamar will do what Lamar does in the regular season, show up. Show up. 568 00:55:39.600 --> 00:55:44.610 Rayshawn Buchanan: I want you to be right, because, like I said, they just had another, 569 00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:50.669 Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, they folded again on Monday Night Football, but I feel like Detroit's had that number recently. 570 00:55:50.830 --> 00:55:54.880 Rayshawn Buchanan: But that's turned into, like, a little mini rivalry there as well. Yeah. 571 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.090 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, but yeah, give me Baltimore as well. 572 00:55:59.750 --> 00:56:04.089 Rayshawn Buchanan: I couldn't believe that Saquon Thornton actually looked decent there, to hear, like… 573 00:56:04.090 --> 00:56:06.040 Mike Marcangelo: took him 4… I mean, took him 4 chances. 574 00:56:06.290 --> 00:56:15.239 Rayshawn Buchanan: Sure, but everybody had 5 catches, 70 yards, which, once again, we would have loved that here. And actually, that's a good week for any receiver. Yeah. That's, you know, that's… 575 00:56:15.580 --> 00:56:20.740 Rayshawn Buchanan: That's 90 catches, if you have 5 catches, a game. 576 00:56:20.740 --> 00:56:21.410 Mike Marcangelo: Yeah. 577 00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:35.479 Mike Marcangelo: I'm just really… I'm just really, happy to see that Juju looks like Juju did with us, so far. You know? There's gonna be… he's gonna have 3 games this season that are gonna piss me off completely, because he's gonna catch 7 balls for 80 yards and 2 touchdowns, and… 578 00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:40.540 Rayshawn Buchanan: I want to bash my head through a wall, but… He even did that here when he didn't need to. 579 00:56:41.110 --> 00:56:41.710 Mike Marcangelo: Right. 580 00:56:41.710 --> 00:56:46.949 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, 100%. Pittsburgh came in there, and I'm just like, I said, where's this guy been? 581 00:56:47.160 --> 00:56:47.760 Mike Marcangelo: Yep. 582 00:56:48.120 --> 00:56:51.570 Rayshawn Buchanan: I was like, oh, okay, great. Not great, but I'm like, okay, here you. 583 00:56:51.570 --> 00:56:55.719 Mike Marcangelo: Also, the fact that the Ravens are favored going into Arrowhead, that's fucking wild. 584 00:56:56.250 --> 00:56:59.740 Mike Marcangelo: Wild. That just shows you how down Vegas is on the Chiefs. 585 00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:01.259 Rayshawn Buchanan: In the regular season, though? 586 00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:02.980 Mike Marcangelo: Mmm. 587 00:57:02.980 --> 00:57:07.410 Rayshawn Buchanan: So you talk about Lamar, being Lamar, like, in a regular season, that's not… that's not… 588 00:57:07.410 --> 00:57:10.569 Mike Marcangelo: Has he beat… Has he beat Mahomes in the regular season? 589 00:57:13.350 --> 00:57:14.480 Mike Marcangelo: I feel like he has. 590 00:57:15.270 --> 00:57:24.430 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, but it was, it was early on, I think. It was early on. It was early on. Once Mahomes got his superpowers, like, it was a rap for a little while. 591 00:57:25.300 --> 00:57:27.480 Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, Alan ain't done nothing… 592 00:57:28.330 --> 00:57:32.149 Rayshawn Buchanan: Lamar hasn't done anything. Like I said, Burrow's the only one that's coming in the house. 593 00:57:32.540 --> 00:57:34.100 Rayshawn Buchanan: They kicked the speed up his head. 594 00:57:34.530 --> 00:57:35.320 Mike Marcangelo: Multiple times. 595 00:57:35.520 --> 00:57:38.960 Rayshawn Buchanan: It was like, alright, you know, I'm the guy. So. 596 00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:47.830 Mike Marcangelo: Chicago, after a fucking, I mean, just an ass-whipping that they dealt Dallas, goes to Vegas, 597 00:57:47.830 --> 00:58:02.100 Mike Marcangelo: I think this should be a continuation of what we saw on, on, you know, last week. I think Caleb looked really good. I mean, I… listen, I understand that Dallas' defense is probably one of the worst in league history. Dallas is the only team 598 00:58:02.110 --> 00:58:04.369 Mike Marcangelo: Well, actually, no, sorry. 599 00:58:04.390 --> 00:58:12.320 Mike Marcangelo: Dallas and, and… and the Ravens are the only two teams to score 30 points. 600 00:58:12.750 --> 00:58:14.960 Mike Marcangelo: In 3 straight games, and have a losing record. 601 00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:16.030 Rayshawn Buchanan: But… 602 00:58:16.980 --> 00:58:29.929 Mike Marcangelo: That being said, I love what I saw from Caleb. I thought he was decisive, I thought he was quick. I love the fact that it looks like Roma Dumze is emerging as a number one wide receiver. I told y'all to watch out for Luther, 603 00:58:30.190 --> 00:58:36.250 Mike Marcangelo: I just need, listen, I just need Ashton Genti and Brock Byers to have a hell of a game, but I'm picking Chicago. 604 00:58:36.980 --> 00:58:39.399 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I'm rolling with the Bears, too. 605 00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:42.970 Rayshawn Buchanan: Caleb finally looked like a… he looked like an NFL quarterback on Sunday. 606 00:58:43.230 --> 00:58:43.740 Mike Marcangelo: Yep. 607 00:58:44.390 --> 00:58:49.850 Rayshawn Buchanan: So, if they get more of that, then they'll be in business. So yeah, Chicago wins that one on Sunday. 608 00:58:50.280 --> 00:59:00.860 Mike Marcangelo: Speaking of that terrible defense in Dallas, the Green Bay Packers travel to Dallas on Sunday Night Football. I think Jordan Love is going to 609 00:59:02.690 --> 00:59:06.759 Mike Marcangelo: I think he's gonna dog walk the Dallas defense this entire… I mean, I think it's gonna be… 610 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:24.519 Mike Marcangelo: there's gonna be the overinflated take after about, like, how elite he is. Remember, it's the Dallas defense. I could envision a stat line of something along the lines of 25 of 32, 320 yards, 4 touchdowns, no picks, from Jordan Love. 611 00:59:24.520 --> 00:59:29.219 Rayshawn Buchanan: I would love that, and I hope that my car gets 3 sacks. 612 00:59:30.610 --> 00:59:32.840 Mike Marcangelo: Oh, oh my god, it's 5 sacks. 613 00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:34.469 Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, you know, maybe even better. 614 00:59:34.470 --> 00:59:36.170 Mike Marcangelo: Salutes Jerry every single time. 615 00:59:36.170 --> 00:59:38.899 Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, correct. Correct. Yep. 616 00:59:38.900 --> 00:59:39.740 Mike Marcangelo: I'm here for that. 617 00:59:39.740 --> 00:59:42.729 Rayshawn Buchanan: There's like a podcast type of celebration. 618 00:59:42.730 --> 00:59:55.099 Mike Marcangelo: Oh, here for that. Doubleheader on Monday. So the Jets go to the Dolphins at 7.15, that'll be… I mean, I'm sure people will really tune in for that. I mean, everyone watches the NFL, so it doesn't matter. 619 00:59:56.100 --> 01:00:01.489 Mike Marcangelo: God, Justin Fields, if he plays, give me the Jets. If he doesn't, give me the Dolphins. 620 01:00:06.730 --> 01:00:17.510 Rayshawn Buchanan: Ugh, I laugh, because once again, once again, it's better to be right early than to catch on later. You know, you taught me that well, my friend. 621 01:00:19.390 --> 01:00:38.779 Rayshawn Buchanan: But I told you guys. I told y'all… it was only a matter of time. It's only a matter of time before the dolphins that some of y'all come to know and love was going to implode, and now you're seeing it in front of your eyes. You're seeing it happen. 622 01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:41.910 Rayshawn Buchanan: They're not a good team. They're just not. No. 623 01:00:41.910 --> 01:00:42.660 Mike Marcangelo: The wheels are off. 624 01:00:42.660 --> 01:01:02.490 Rayshawn Buchanan: And, yeah, the wheels are off, the, you know, once again, more people are probably interested in going to the Sonic across the street from the stadium, or going to the Cigar Lounge, or going to average. You name it, yeah, shirt club, right, you name it, right? Shout out to G5. But it's just like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's wild. But needless to say, listen, 625 01:01:02.710 --> 01:01:12.429 Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, the Jets are gonna come in there and win on Monday night. it's funny, because these two teams had one of the best Monday night games of all time, many years ago. 626 01:01:12.430 --> 01:01:12.800 Mike Marcangelo: Yep. 627 01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:25.929 Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, with Linda Mario, I think, hit the game winner many years ago. Shelter Jumbo Elliott, too. That's a name drop there. But yeah, I mean, it won't be that. It won't be 40-37 like that game was. But, you know, I got the Jets winning that one. 628 01:01:27.020 --> 01:01:42.339 Mike Marcangelo: 2-0-3 teams, again. Oh, God. And then, let's close out, week four. We have the Cincinnati Bengals traveling to Denver. That's on… that's on ABC, 815. Denver is favored by 7.5 points. Feels like they're not giving Browning much credit. Give me. 629 01:01:42.340 --> 01:01:43.160 Rayshawn Buchanan: this Sunday. 630 01:01:44.030 --> 01:01:44.620 Rayshawn Buchanan: Wasn't gonna say? 631 01:01:44.620 --> 01:01:45.269 Mike Marcangelo: I mean… 632 01:01:45.270 --> 01:01:48.860 Rayshawn Buchanan: I believe it. He went until Sunday. So, he's had some good moments, but he. 633 01:01:48.860 --> 01:01:49.790 Mike Marcangelo: Give me the Bengals. 634 01:01:52.370 --> 01:01:55.209 Rayshawn Buchanan: out there in Denver, I don't know, I think… 635 01:01:56.340 --> 01:02:11.329 Rayshawn Buchanan: Seven and a half feels like a lot, because Denver's not… they're not a powerhouse team, but at Mile High, or whatever it's called now, but it's always gonna be Mile High, excuse me, to me. 636 01:02:12.060 --> 01:02:19.759 Rayshawn Buchanan: They, they probably win by 3 or 4. They win by 3 or 4. But 7, 7 is a lot, touchdown is a lot, but they, they… 637 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.029 Mike Marcangelo: Seven and a half, so more than a touchdown is what they're saying. 638 01:02:22.030 --> 01:02:23.180 Rayshawn Buchanan: So, 639 01:02:23.180 --> 01:02:32.929 Mike Marcangelo: It's wild, because the Bengals are 2-1, the Broncos are 1-2, and they're getting… they're getting absolutely no… no, no respect, which is why I'm gonna pick the Bengals. 640 01:02:33.370 --> 01:02:48.719 Mike Marcangelo: But I think it should be… listen, it should be a very entertaining week for the NFL. Hopefully, we come back to talk about the Patriots beating the shit out of the Carolina Panthers, and having a great first home win of the season. I don't think that's gonna happen, but… 641 01:02:49.190 --> 01:03:01.249 Mike Marcangelo: You know, obviously stay tuned to the Power Ranking Show later this week. The Real BK is gonna release his power rankings, and I just can't wait to see, how DK tries to get the Bears in the top 10. But until then. 642 01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:08.309 Mike Marcangelo: For Rayshawn Buchanan, this is Michael Marc Angelo saying thank you so much for listening to MTP Boston on the Radcast Network. We'll talk to you later.