Patriots Collapse vs Steelers + Panthers Preview & Trade Buzz

00:00:05.230 --> 00:00:20.440Mike Marcangelo: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Missing the Point, Boston Edition, right here on the Radcast Network. I am your host, Michael Marc Angelo, joined alongside by my guy, Hollywood Rayshawn Buchanan, and MTP Boston means we're talking Patriots.200:00:20.570 --> 00:00:29.099Mike Marcangelo: And the last 3 years, typically when we talk Patriots, it's not great. This week will be no different. The Patriots lost.300:00:29.100 --> 00:00:47.060Mike Marcangelo: A game that they absolutely fucking dominated against the Pittsburgh Steelers at home, 21-14. They fall to 0-2 at home. They've lost as many games since Brady left as they lost at home, the 20 years that he was here, so there's that. But Ray, how are you, man? What do you want to talk about?400:00:47.670 --> 00:00:57.429Rayshawn Buchanan: So, I mean, I did think it sucked that we didn't speak after the Miami win last week. I mean, it just… it was just scheduled, scheduled conflict, but,500:00:58.830 --> 00:01:10.820Rayshawn Buchanan: But the reason why I bring up that win is that, obviously, yes, getting a win in the NFL, regardless of what team you are, like, a win's hard to come by, right? So, and even though they had won down there, and Drake had a really good game.600:01:10.820 --> 00:01:19.280Rayshawn Buchanan: There were still some things that you saw and needed to get, you know, cleaned up, right? And the reason why I used that game is because whatever…700:01:19.800 --> 00:01:22.349Rayshawn Buchanan: Didn't get corrected in that game.800:01:22.540 --> 00:01:35.959Rayshawn Buchanan: absolutely reared his head, ugly headed that, in this Pittsburgh game. And obviously, for those that have listened to us, you guys know, that I've gotten on Pittsburgh still as fans,900:01:36.210 --> 00:01:43.440Rayshawn Buchanan: You know, they've never gotten us when it mattered. Obviously, they won, on Sunday, and it took…1000:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.220Rayshawn Buchanan: Let's say it took a catastrophic…1100:01:47.530 --> 00:01:57.960Rayshawn Buchanan: type of performance offensively, you know, for that to happen, but either… nevertheless, they capitalized when they needed to. And it's… it's… it sucks, because…1200:01:59.250 --> 00:02:03.899Rayshawn Buchanan: It's like… I just don't understand how…1300:02:04.780 --> 00:02:09.350Rayshawn Buchanan: You can turn over the ball 5 times…1400:02:10.610 --> 00:02:12.530Rayshawn Buchanan: And some of those guys are still on the team.1500:02:13.040 --> 00:02:21.270Rayshawn Buchanan: I mean, we can get into that, but I just… I'm blown away. Blown away, by the boneheaded place. Blown away.1600:02:21.270 --> 00:02:33.919Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good place to start, right? Like, back in the old days, Bill Belichick, if a running back fumbled twice in the game, you'd never see them again. And then they would draft a running back that actually wasn't that fast or good, but never fumbled the ball, Ben Jarvis Green Ellis, and he would be the new guy.1700:02:33.920 --> 00:02:48.809Mike Marcangelo: So let's talk about the running back problem that we have. And I would say the positives still outweigh the negatives for the running backs, right? We have, obviously we have Ramondre Stevenson, you got Antonio Gibson, you got Travion Henderson. The real big problem for me1800:02:48.840 --> 00:02:57.509Mike Marcangelo: is not, the, you know, the two fumbles by Ramondre and the one by, by Gibson.1900:02:57.660 --> 00:03:06.109Mike Marcangelo: It's the fact that that really didn't lead to an increase of usage or productivity, for Travion.2000:03:06.110 --> 00:03:18.869Mike Marcangelo: And, like, he's the guy, and we know that he can't be an every-week 3-down back, but when you have issues clearly holding onto the fucking football, and this isn't new for Ramadre, this happened last year, too. So, this is an issue now.2100:03:18.970 --> 00:03:23.410Mike Marcangelo: You have, like, you have probably one of the most electric2200:03:23.650 --> 00:03:27.089Mike Marcangelo: Running backs taken, in the last couple of years.2300:03:27.270 --> 00:03:29.389Rayshawn Buchanan: Why don't… like, why don't you go to him?2400:03:30.530 --> 00:03:38.410Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I don't know what's going on, I mean, and I don't know whether it's something they want him to pay his dues, like, I don't know what it is, but it's like, dude, like…2500:03:38.580 --> 00:03:42.160Rayshawn Buchanan: You… you were in the business of winning games, not…2600:03:42.290 --> 00:03:45.669Rayshawn Buchanan: Just waiting for guys to develop and see what happens.2700:03:47.900 --> 00:04:02.700Rayshawn Buchanan: And right now, it's just looking like they're waiting for him to develop, and it's just like, dog, he's someone that can produce. You saw in the preseason, you know, with him returning kicks, like, he's a dynamic playmaker, and…2800:04:02.950 --> 00:04:07.990Rayshawn Buchanan: Josh has done well with that type of running back, so I'm just like, I'm not understanding why…2900:04:08.180 --> 00:04:27.039Rayshawn Buchanan: he's not out there, you know, catching, you know, those angle routes, or, you know, running a wheel route, you know, you know, past the safety. Like, he can get there. And then he's… he's only fumbled, I think, twice in his time at Ohio State. Like, he's the curve with the football, so…3000:04:27.080 --> 00:04:35.639Rayshawn Buchanan: Like I said, it was just alarming that, you know, he didn't get more touches. But I think you alluded to this the last time we talked about this.3100:04:35.830 --> 00:04:40.019Rayshawn Buchanan: Drake May, as talented as he is, should not be your leading rusher.3200:04:40.970 --> 00:04:50.620Mike Marcangelo: Right, again, that was my next point. Again, you have a three-headed monster, as we've been, you know, told in the running back, in the backfield with, between Gibson, Henderson, and Stevenson.3300:04:50.750 --> 00:04:54.649Mike Marcangelo: And again, Drake May, 7 carries, 45 yards. He led the team.3400:04:55.490 --> 00:04:57.750Rayshawn Buchanan: Right. Now, I will say.3500:04:57.830 --> 00:05:00.610Mike Marcangelo: Some of his runs were just…3600:05:01.050 --> 00:05:06.129Mike Marcangelo: were just awesome to watch. And it is… it is cool to see, you know,3700:05:06.320 --> 00:05:13.069Mike Marcangelo: I think he's being… he's definitely being, more protective with the football when he's running, obviously.3800:05:13.170 --> 00:05:25.190Mike Marcangelo: I love to see the little bursts he has once he clears the corner on the outside, because he definitely has it, and the cool part about him is, like, he has all the intangibles. He's got everything. It's a matter of…3900:05:25.610 --> 00:05:28.350Mike Marcangelo: Is the game going to slow down enough for him?4000:05:28.850 --> 00:05:37.149Mike Marcangelo: like, you know, and will that happen quick enough? That he can be the guy that we think he's gonna be? But no, it's a problem, and I think it…4100:05:37.200 --> 00:05:39.060Rayshawn Buchanan: In terms of the backfield.4200:05:39.280 --> 00:05:46.929Mike Marcangelo: do you expect them to go, Travion, or do you think, do you think Vrabel's gonna stick with Ramondre?4300:05:47.730 --> 00:05:52.870Rayshawn Buchanan: I had to cut from Andre, like, and that, like, and once again.4400:05:53.060 --> 00:05:56.240Mike Marcangelo: In case you wanted to know who was running our Twitter account on Sunday, you're talking to him.4500:05:56.520 --> 00:05:57.720Rayshawn Buchanan: No, no, that's…4600:05:57.720 --> 00:05:59.420Mike Marcangelo: That'd be great.4700:05:59.700 --> 00:06:01.839Rayshawn Buchanan: I'd cut them.4800:06:02.480 --> 00:06:04.240Rayshawn Buchanan: I'd cut him.4900:06:05.000 --> 00:06:12.910Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, you know, y'all tell me every other show that you could find a running back out there in the street, so, like, go cut them. Like, once again.5000:06:12.910 --> 00:06:13.819Mike Marcangelo: And I have them.5100:06:13.820 --> 00:06:20.540Rayshawn Buchanan: No, right, but bro, what I'm saying is that I… There was no bigger supporter.5200:06:20.880 --> 00:06:30.560Rayshawn Buchanan: of Stevenson on the show than me. Like, I'm… once again, so… so for me to get to that point lets you know where I'm at with that. Once again, tried to defend it last year.5300:06:30.840 --> 00:06:44.699Rayshawn Buchanan: try to say, you know, you know, maybe, you know, whatever was going on, but I can't defend what I saw on Sunday. Once again, he was really good in the Miami game, so, you know, great, awesome. But we're getting to a point where his good…5400:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.289Rayshawn Buchanan: Play does not outweigh as bad.5500:06:47.660 --> 00:06:51.960Rayshawn Buchanan: And… if that's the case, Then it should cut ties.5600:06:52.080 --> 00:06:55.210Rayshawn Buchanan: And, once again, can't you just be…5700:06:55.760 --> 00:07:13.059Rayshawn Buchanan: Can you be David Montgomery? Can you just be that? Once again, I don't need Barry Sanders, I don't need Emma Smith, I don't need Adrian Peterson. Once again, it'd be great if he became that. It'd be great. But can you just be someone like David Montgomery? Someone that's gonna be very serviceable, that can get the job done,5800:07:13.270 --> 00:07:18.320Rayshawn Buchanan: And, you know, run really hard every time. Can you do that? Because if not, then you don't need to be here.5900:07:19.050 --> 00:07:19.960Rayshawn Buchanan: Period.6000:07:20.180 --> 00:07:28.310Mike Marcangelo: I mean, yeah, that's the comp that we're looking for, right? Is you want… you want, Trevion to be Gibbs, and we need Rolandre to be Montgomery.6100:07:28.310 --> 00:07:29.450Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, right.6200:07:29.450 --> 00:07:35.980Mike Marcangelo: or just a… just maybe even, like, a light version of that. I'll take any… I'll take 80% of that at this point.6300:07:36.590 --> 00:07:45.619Mike Marcangelo: But it just feels like the running game, which should be something that they can focus on right now, especially when Drake's under pressure as often as he is.6400:07:45.930 --> 00:07:54.190Mike Marcangelo: that it's… it's just not a leading focus for them. That doesn't make any sense to me.6500:07:54.390 --> 00:07:57.069Mike Marcangelo: Bright spot? Well, let's talk about one more negative.6600:07:58.850 --> 00:08:01.889Mike Marcangelo: You're gonna lose every game that Drake has two turnovers.6700:08:03.130 --> 00:08:13.110Mike Marcangelo: strictly because you're not good enough to beat teams, really any teams, I mean, there are, like, 4 or 5 I can name. One of them I think we're playing this week. But…6800:08:13.340 --> 00:08:14.230Mike Marcangelo: Listen.6900:08:14.570 --> 00:08:19.679Mike Marcangelo: as I, you know, we talked about this last time we were on together, I had this conversation with Karen.7000:08:19.790 --> 00:08:23.440Mike Marcangelo: We have 22 really good players. Really good.7100:08:24.770 --> 00:08:41.120Mike Marcangelo: But it's a 53-man roster, and we're not that deep. And when you put yourself behind the eight ball, you know, Drake goes 28-37, pretty good, two touchdowns, one pick, the pick wasn't great, but that fumble, like, you can't… he can't turn the ball over twice.7200:08:41.590 --> 00:08:47.710Mike Marcangelo: And moreover, this team is nowhere good enough to have 5 turnovers and still expect to win a game.7300:08:47.710 --> 00:08:52.159Rayshawn Buchanan: Right. But what's crazy, they turned it over 5 times.7400:08:52.350 --> 00:08:54.779Rayshawn Buchanan: And you still had a chance to win the game.7500:08:55.050 --> 00:08:56.080Mike Marcangelo: They dominated the game.7600:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.810Rayshawn Buchanan: Dominate, dominate the game!7700:08:58.070 --> 00:09:06.889Rayshawn Buchanan: And I'm just like, yo, like, the second half was… they finally woke up in the second half and said, okay, we're gonna move the ball, we're gonna throw it here. But…7800:09:07.950 --> 00:09:20.970Rayshawn Buchanan: my takeaway from it is… and I shared this stat with you guys earlier about just where his usage rate is, you know, with Drake May, and just, his passing stats, is at the top end of the league.7900:09:21.110 --> 00:09:26.160Rayshawn Buchanan: According to NextGen Stats, I want the ball in his hands.8000:09:26.390 --> 00:09:34.129Rayshawn Buchanan: live and die with 10, just going. Like, he's clearly your best offensive player already.8100:09:34.240 --> 00:09:50.320Rayshawn Buchanan: Live with the results. Live with the results. Once again, Cam Hayward is an All-Pro in this league. Like, he made a play. Yep. That's the… the interception, okay, it happens. The fumble, once again, that was an issue at times last year, obviously.8200:09:50.470 --> 00:09:52.390Rayshawn Buchanan: But, yeah, to, to…8300:09:52.600 --> 00:10:04.650Rayshawn Buchanan: Kim Hayward's an all-pro, so I'm not… I'm not gonna sit here and get on him for that. But yeah, it's just, like I said, put the ball in his hands,8400:10:05.900 --> 00:10:10.100Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm also out on Pop Douglas as well.8500:10:10.800 --> 00:10:14.769Mike Marcangelo: Okay, I was… this is great, I was… it's like you read the imaginary show notes.8600:10:14.770 --> 00:10:15.290Rayshawn Buchanan: No, yeah.8700:10:15.290 --> 00:10:31.979Mike Marcangelo: On the positive side, Drake May spread the ball around. He completed a pass to 9 different receivers throughout the course of this game. Obviously, he favors Hunter Henry, I think that connection's great. Hunter, 8 for 90, and 2 touchdowns. That's, I mean, that's a great day from a tight end.8800:10:32.770 --> 00:10:42.949Mike Marcangelo: Pop Douglas, man, on 4th down, if your route does not take you to the sticks or beyond, I don't know what you're doing. Furthermore.8900:10:43.580 --> 00:10:45.760Mike Marcangelo: If it takes you close.9000:10:46.070 --> 00:10:56.129Mike Marcangelo: You bet your ass you don't move backwards. I could not believe that he did that, and I'd love to, like, take me through your emotions as you're watching that.9100:10:56.410 --> 00:10:59.300Rayshawn Buchanan: So, I see him catch it, so I'm excited that he caught it.9200:10:59.660 --> 00:11:00.910Rayshawn Buchanan: And…9300:11:01.280 --> 00:11:12.869Rayshawn Buchanan: I see him try to make a play, so for those that's not listening on audio, and just, you know, or that's listening on audio, I'm putting my air quotes up, and he tried to make a play.9400:11:13.260 --> 00:11:16.359Rayshawn Buchanan: And I'm just like, you try to make a play?9500:11:17.140 --> 00:11:21.859Rayshawn Buchanan: And I think someone was trying to justify it saying that, oh, it was like a wide receiver screen.9600:11:22.300 --> 00:11:25.709Rayshawn Buchanan: No, it wasn't. Blockers weren't… blockers were not set up. This wasn't a…9700:11:25.710 --> 00:11:28.040Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, there was a wide receiver screen without blockers.9800:11:28.040 --> 00:11:32.880Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, this wasn't a Wes Walker bubble screening, or, you know, this wasn't one of those.9900:11:33.500 --> 00:11:40.190Rayshawn Buchanan: just fall forward. You had the first down. This is up there with Jacoby Myers from a few years ago. This is up there.10000:11:41.440 --> 00:11:58.140Rayshawn Buchanan: The level of… does the level of ineptitude just… how do you not fall forward? And then you sit there in the press… in the post-game presser, like, oh, you know, just, you know, it was just a play. It's like, you sound stupid because you're playing stupid.10100:11:58.140 --> 00:12:10.359Rayshawn Buchanan: And… but I'm… I'm out. I'm out. Like, where's… where's Chisholm? Where's Kyle Williams? Like, I think… I think Kyle Williams has more yards than… than, than Pop, or something like that. Like, it's… it's wild. So…10200:12:10.430 --> 00:12:17.599Rayshawn Buchanan: They don't… they don't use Stephon Davis, like, I just… it's… there's so much going on. I'm just like, it, it's… it's really a joke.10300:12:18.920 --> 00:12:37.399Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, but yeah. But I do… I do think… I do think Stephon Diggs is being used for one of the main purposes that he was brought here, and… because, I mean, last year, you're not going to see a stat line where Drake May is spreading the ball around to 9 different receivers, right? And he can do that because now Keyshawn Booty's not going up against their number ones.10400:12:37.410 --> 00:12:40.270Rayshawn Buchanan: Neither, you know, neither is Pop Douglas.10500:12:40.270 --> 00:12:44.620Mike Marcangelo: So, I mean, listen, Stephon Diggs, 3 for 23,10600:12:45.080 --> 00:12:47.599Mike Marcangelo: It's, it's gotta be, it's gotta be better than that.10700:12:47.600 --> 00:12:57.740Rayshawn Buchanan: And Keyshawn Booty, 2 for 28. Like, why do those guys only have 3 targets? So, Booty had 3 targets, Diggs had 3 targets. 3 targets, 3 catches.10800:12:58.560 --> 00:13:01.519Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, what are we doing? What are we doing?10900:13:01.520 --> 00:13:04.579Mike Marcangelo: Well, I mean, Hunter Henry had 11 targets and had 8 catches.11000:13:04.950 --> 00:13:17.139Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, so once again, listen, you know, we had different opinions on Hunter Hunter when we got here, but he's been awesome since he's been here, so he's great, he's awesome. I'm not mad at it. It's typical job.11100:13:17.140 --> 00:13:20.539Mike Marcangelo: Was I excited and you were upset, or was it the other way around?11200:13:21.930 --> 00:13:25.720Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I was more excited you was calling him Mr. Glass.11300:13:25.820 --> 00:13:29.640Mike Marcangelo: Okay. I was like, there's gotta be a reason why he brings this up every time I talk about Hunter Henry, but yeah.11400:13:30.050 --> 00:13:39.109Rayshawn Buchanan: Well, no, because… no, but all… but, I mean, this is on both of us. We both thought Jonah Swift was going to be a problem here, and he wasn't, unfortunately. So,11500:13:39.670 --> 00:13:44.199Rayshawn Buchanan: But I just thought that in Josh's offense, I was like, tight ends do well. They just have.11600:13:44.210 --> 00:13:53.619Rayshawn Buchanan: And Henry did well in 2021, with Josh Aaron, and obviously now he's doing well with him here again. So,11700:13:53.620 --> 00:14:10.640Rayshawn Buchanan: it's just a tight-end friendly system. It just… it just has been, up here, so whether it was Dawn from Fourier to whoever, right? Daniel Graham, whoever, they just, they just had guys that could play in that, in that position, so… But yeah, that's not enough.11800:14:10.640 --> 00:14:13.359Mike Marcangelo: It's just not, and it's just, like, to me.11900:14:13.410 --> 00:14:18.140Rayshawn Buchanan: They're definitely… you can tell they're better, like, that's not debatable, they're definitely better.12000:14:18.270 --> 00:14:24.610Rayshawn Buchanan: But to still have the same record as you had last year, at this time, is super infuriating.12100:14:26.440 --> 00:14:41.330Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, no, listen, I 100% agree. I think my hope was that this team got to 8 or 9 wins. I did predict on our AFC versus NFC show that the Patriots would have more wins than the Cowboys, and I'm gonna stick to that.12200:14:42.080 --> 00:14:47.509Mike Marcangelo: But no, like, Stefan needs to… he can't have 3 targets.12300:14:47.970 --> 00:14:54.230Mike Marcangelo: Like, you gotta target him at least 6 times, because odds are he's gonna catch the ball 5 of those times, if it's catchable.12400:14:54.450 --> 00:14:58.289Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, and that best was saying, whether you put him in a slot.12500:14:58.380 --> 00:15:17.170Rayshawn Buchanan: whether you put him… because, to me, he's not a guy that's gonna burn someone at this point in his career, right? Nope. Put him on the inside, like Almiron St. Brown, and let him do the Michael Thomas thing, and just catch 5 UR slants, and be a possession guy at this moment. He could easily get 70 catches off that, easily!12600:15:17.170 --> 00:15:17.770Mike Marcangelo: Yep.12700:15:17.770 --> 00:15:41.680Rayshawn Buchanan: like, let him do that. And once again, he's already had 100 yards, which I feel like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, it probably took 9 weeks for someone to get 100 yards last year. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just like, it's crazy, man, but I don't know, I just think, to me, they're underutilizing some guys, and… I know it's about scheme, I know that Pittsburgh probably had…12800:15:41.680 --> 00:15:44.049Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, digs and Booty on their,12900:15:44.380 --> 00:15:49.040Rayshawn Buchanan: You know, on their game plan, so that they try to scheme… scheme away from those guys, but…13000:15:49.940 --> 00:15:52.580Rayshawn Buchanan: Live and die with your best players. Period.13100:15:52.700 --> 00:15:53.670Rayshawn Buchanan: Period.13200:15:53.670 --> 00:16:00.900Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, no, I'm with you, but I mean, to your point, through 3 games, the Patriots have 4 100-yard receivers so far.13300:16:02.970 --> 00:16:11.959Mike Marcangelo: Yeah. So, I mean, Drake… I mean, Drake, Drake is 250 yards away from, sorry, 225 yards away from 1,000 yards.13400:16:12.920 --> 00:16:15.610Mike Marcangelo: So, I mean, he's probably gonna get to 4,000 passing notes.13500:16:16.250 --> 00:16:23.460Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, he's… he's dealing, like, that's… but that's what I'm saying, like, he's… he's… Like, he, like, clearly…13600:16:23.600 --> 00:16:39.980Rayshawn Buchanan: like, he's, like, once again, still… I guess we're still waiting on a signature moment, like we talked about… that was our big thing with Mac Jones. We're still waiting on that, per se. It would have been in Tennessee, but, you know, they… they tricked that game off.13700:16:40.200 --> 00:16:58.510Rayshawn Buchanan: But it definitely would have been Tennessee, that would have been… that would have been a, you know, that moment there. But yeah, I don't know, but I'm at a point now, even I was like this last year, he was already their best player last year. Live and die with 10, and just go from there. The line is a little bit better.13800:16:58.800 --> 00:17:04.869Rayshawn Buchanan: your receiving core is better. You have a pass rush now, like, Harold Learnji's been awesome.13900:17:05.460 --> 00:17:07.820Mike Marcangelo: know it, because Aaron Rodgers wasn't sacked once.14000:17:07.950 --> 00:17:19.529Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, in this game, but it's just, I'm saying, overall, you could tell that they, you know, they get there for the most part. And once again, I don't know what happened on Sunday. Like I said, there were so many things…14100:17:19.790 --> 00:17:28.439Rayshawn Buchanan: that went left for them Sunday, that… like I said, it's a miracle that they even lost by 7.14200:17:29.560 --> 00:17:30.240Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, pismo…14300:17:30.240 --> 00:17:43.270Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I mean, because if you look at the stat line, this could really go either way, right? Like, if you just look at just team sets, first downs, Patriots 26, Steelers 17. Third down efficiency, 6 of 13 versus 4 of 9.14400:17:43.420 --> 00:17:46.759Mike Marcangelo: Total yards, 369 to 203.14500:17:47.540 --> 00:17:51.630Mike Marcangelo: You just take those, and you're like, wow, the Pats fucking ran away with this one.14600:17:52.050 --> 00:17:52.860Rayshawn Buchanan: Nope.14700:17:52.860 --> 00:17:56.410Mike Marcangelo: And then you go to… and then you just go to turnovers. 5-1.14800:17:56.640 --> 00:17:58.550Mike Marcangelo: Penalties. 7 to 8.14900:17:59.080 --> 00:18:06.010Mike Marcangelo: There it is. It's literally the turnover game. And by the way, like, we have to talk about the penalties, too, because…15000:18:06.150 --> 00:18:15.800Mike Marcangelo: It's… that needs to be fixed. We're going through almost a quarter of the way through the season now, and they're averaging, like, 6 or 7 penalties per game.15100:18:17.660 --> 00:18:21.770Rayshawn Buchanan: But, once again, we… it's been undisciplined football since 2020.15200:18:23.220 --> 00:18:26.470Rayshawn Buchanan: You could, even when Bill was here, it was… it started to deteriorate.15300:18:26.740 --> 00:18:30.019Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, undisciplined football's a 2020, and…15400:18:30.840 --> 00:18:34.289Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, I just… I don't… I don't understand it. I really don't.15500:18:34.750 --> 00:18:38.119Rayshawn Buchanan: I really don't. Like, it blows my mind,15600:18:39.100 --> 00:18:43.039Rayshawn Buchanan: How bad and how undisciplined they've looked since 2020.15700:18:43.660 --> 00:18:47.170Rayshawn Buchanan: Like… but, you know, it's okay, because you don't want to rebuild.15800:18:48.710 --> 00:18:50.720Mike Marcangelo: Officially, yes. Let's talk about.15900:18:50.720 --> 00:18:51.120Rayshawn Buchanan: applicant.16000:18:51.120 --> 00:19:01.329Mike Marcangelo: Let's talk about Aaron Rodgers' stat line, okay? Let's just say that you didn't watch the game, you did not see it. 16-23, 139 yards, 2 TDs and a pick.16100:19:03.040 --> 00:19:04.310Mike Marcangelo: He's trash.16200:19:05.580 --> 00:19:13.400Mike Marcangelo: I think he's trash. I've hated him forever. I've never questioned his physical abilities.16300:19:13.710 --> 00:19:17.949Mike Marcangelo: I mean, the cliff is here, and we've seen it.16400:19:18.540 --> 00:19:20.810Rayshawn Buchanan: And they have 64 yards on the ground.16500:19:21.430 --> 00:19:28.810Mike Marcangelo: Correct. 26 carries for 64 yards. They averaged 2.5 yards a carry. We averaged 4.1, and again, you lost the game.16600:19:28.940 --> 00:19:30.520Rayshawn Buchanan: But yeah, that's our style.16700:19:32.530 --> 00:19:39.340Mike Marcangelo: Were you expecting something different from, from the Pittsburgh offense, just given what we've been seeing over the.16800:19:39.340 --> 00:19:43.229Rayshawn Buchanan: They did the Jets, and yeah, I was.16900:19:44.360 --> 00:19:58.460Rayshawn Buchanan: But like I said, I… clearly, like, our defense, for the most part, showed up. Once again, you just… when you're given a short field, and you're coming back on the field right after, but they won the time of possession. Like, they was out there, they… we won the time of possession.17000:19:58.460 --> 00:20:11.060Rayshawn Buchanan: By a mile. So, it's just like… but yeah, I would… I was shocked they didn't come out here and have a little more, you know, a little more juice, but… I… I don't know, man. I… I just, to me…17100:20:13.680 --> 00:20:19.289Rayshawn Buchanan: If you had told me in any part of Aaron Rodgers' career, that he comes into here.17200:20:19.960 --> 00:20:21.769Rayshawn Buchanan: Those are under M150?17300:20:21.950 --> 00:20:23.370Rayshawn Buchanan: And they win?17400:20:24.200 --> 00:20:30.830Rayshawn Buchanan: I would've been… I would have looked just like you was crazy. And the fact that they came here, and he had a very subpar performance.17500:20:31.000 --> 00:20:36.380Rayshawn Buchanan: To say the least. And you lose that game, like, it's, it's, it's, it's commonly.17600:20:36.750 --> 00:20:40.020Rayshawn Buchanan: Under… under 150 and a turnover, and they still won.17700:20:40.430 --> 00:20:44.149Rayshawn Buchanan: But this is the thing, and someone shared this stat with me earlier.17800:20:44.280 --> 00:20:50.720Rayshawn Buchanan: And Mike Vrabel's last 27 games as a head coach, he's now 7-20.17900:20:53.480 --> 00:20:56.070Rayshawn Buchanan: So, to do with the information what you will, but…18000:20:56.070 --> 00:20:58.279Mike Marcangelo: So you'd rather have dried mayoes, what you're saying?18100:20:58.460 --> 00:21:00.219Rayshawn Buchanan: I just want someone that can do something there.18200:21:00.220 --> 00:21:02.860Mike Marcangelo: No, no, no way are you even.18300:21:02.860 --> 00:21:06.379Rayshawn Buchanan: No, no, no, no, I'm saying, but it's unfortunate that that's what…18400:21:06.650 --> 00:21:23.000Rayshawn Buchanan: that that's another… like, that shouldn't have been the loss, that should have been the 20th loss of 27 games. That's what I'm really getting at. And it shouldn't have been that. Like, that should have been another win under his belt, should have been the first home victory of the year, and they tricked off another game because I'm just looking for football. But that's coaching.18500:21:23.080 --> 00:21:28.969Rayshawn Buchanan: That's coaching. The penalty is the… that's coaching. It is. Just like last year, it was coaching.18600:21:28.970 --> 00:21:34.619Mike Marcangelo: But do you think penalties are the reasons why they lost this game? I will say that two penalties kept one drive alive.18700:21:34.750 --> 00:21:40.670Mike Marcangelo: But I think 5 turnovers and 2 of those led to touchdowns, that's it. That has to be it.18800:21:40.670 --> 00:21:48.160Rayshawn Buchanan: Well, sure, but this… the turnovers, for sure, was more glaring, but it's the…18900:21:49.260 --> 00:21:53.539Rayshawn Buchanan: I don't know, and we were spoiled here for so long to see…19000:21:53.650 --> 00:21:56.979Rayshawn Buchanan: The other team always find a way to screw up here. Always.19100:21:56.980 --> 00:21:57.590Mike Marcangelo: Yep.19200:21:57.590 --> 00:21:59.449Rayshawn Buchanan: So the fact that we've been…19300:21:59.560 --> 00:22:03.439Rayshawn Buchanan: or now become the laughingstock again.19400:22:03.660 --> 00:22:10.470Rayshawn Buchanan: It's a joke. It's a joke. And…19500:22:10.980 --> 00:22:18.880Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm just… I'm sick of losing games at Foxboro. I'm sick of losing games up there. I just am. It's one thing you get smoked on the road, okay, whatever, that happens.19600:22:19.040 --> 00:22:26.030Rayshawn Buchanan: But the fact that teams feel so comfortable to come into fight, and I keep, I keep saying this, people are so comfortable.19700:22:26.860 --> 00:22:29.860Rayshawn Buchanan: But it's across the board here in Boston.19800:22:30.160 --> 00:22:37.369Rayshawn Buchanan: It's not just with the Patriots. People coming to Fenway, even though the wrestlers had a better home record this year than they have had in the past, but…19900:22:37.510 --> 00:22:49.469Rayshawn Buchanan: People coming to Fenway, comfortable. Coming to TD, for the Bruins and Celtics, comfortable. I don't understand it. And I'm pretty sure, and I don't watch them, but I'm pretty sure people coming to Gillette for the Revolution, and they get comfortable.20000:22:49.700 --> 00:23:04.189Rayshawn Buchanan: I just, I don't, I don't understand how you come up here, and you kick your feet up in their house, eat the nachos, have a couple of beers, couple of hot dogs, maybe some lemonade, kiss the baby.20100:23:04.190 --> 00:23:09.989Rayshawn Buchanan: And then, you know, you get a win. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable to me. Unbelievable.20200:23:11.220 --> 00:23:15.219Mike Marcangelo: The Patriots are… 15 and 28 at home.20300:23:16.190 --> 00:23:17.850Mike Marcangelo: Since Tom Brady left.20400:23:17.850 --> 00:23:19.010Rayshawn Buchanan: 15 and 28.20500:23:19.010 --> 00:23:27.350Mike Marcangelo: That includes 500. I mean, I mean, that's less than 50%, yeah. That is a 3-16 since the start of the 2023 season.20600:23:27.530 --> 00:23:31.430Rayshawn Buchanan: 316. The only 316 I know is the Stone Cold Steve Wall.20700:23:33.610 --> 00:23:42.630Rayshawn Buchanan: Well, yeah, pretty much, but talk about your Psalms, talk about your Johns 3.16. Well, Gillette 3.16 says you just came in there and got a victory.20800:23:42.890 --> 00:23:43.460Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, you just.20900:23:43.460 --> 00:23:43.780Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah.21000:23:43.780 --> 00:23:44.370Mike Marcangelo: my ass.21100:23:44.370 --> 00:23:47.279Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, you just get my ass right. Crazy. Unbelievable.21200:23:47.830 --> 00:23:48.440Rayshawn Buchanan: Unbelievable.21300:23:48.440 --> 00:23:56.499Mike Marcangelo: It's argu… you know, listen, the Patriots defense is missing, their star playmaker, obviously Christian Gonzalez.21400:23:56.720 --> 00:23:57.730Mike Marcangelo: I think…21500:23:58.200 --> 00:24:11.390Mike Marcangelo: I don't know that him being there on Saturday, or on Sunday would have helped, because if you look… just… just look at what we did to their receiving core. The leading receiver is Calvin Austin, 3 catches, 34 yards. Jalen Warren, 5 catches, 34 yards.21600:24:11.550 --> 00:24:13.919Mike Marcangelo: DK Metcalf, 3 catches, 32 hits.21700:24:14.400 --> 00:24:15.420Mike Marcangelo: I mean…21800:24:15.420 --> 00:24:16.010Rayshawn Buchanan: Hmm?21900:24:16.010 --> 00:24:19.760Mike Marcangelo: The problem was, is that you invested so much in this offseason.22000:24:19.990 --> 00:24:24.990Mike Marcangelo: To get the pass rush back. Specifically for a game like this.22100:24:24.990 --> 00:24:25.630Rayshawn Buchanan: Hmm?22200:24:26.470 --> 00:24:31.720Mike Marcangelo: And because Rodgers can still get rid of the ball so quickly, I mean…22300:24:32.400 --> 00:24:38.730Mike Marcangelo: it just wasn't there. I mean, again, he dropped back 20, wait, three times.22400:24:39.060 --> 00:24:42.539Mike Marcangelo: And he had zero sacks for zero yards.22500:24:42.540 --> 00:24:43.280Rayshawn Buchanan: Hmm?22600:24:44.040 --> 00:24:46.759Mike Marcangelo: That can't happen. Like, Milton Williams, what are you doing?22700:24:47.190 --> 00:24:49.589Rayshawn Buchanan: Especially at 55 years old, yeah, it's crazy.22800:24:50.670 --> 00:24:51.670Rayshawn Buchanan: Whoa.22900:24:52.750 --> 00:24:55.220Mike Marcangelo: What's going on with that? What's going on with Christian Gonzalez?23000:24:56.570 --> 00:25:04.809Rayshawn Buchanan: I think that they want to give him a full week. I don't agree with it, but I think they wanted to give him a full week to have practice and then come back against Carolina.23100:25:05.630 --> 00:25:20.569Rayshawn Buchanan: I hope it's just that, I hope it's not more than that. I'm getting frustrated, because I want to see him on the field. I don't want him lumped in with guys that could have been great here, and we don't see it because of injury.23200:25:20.770 --> 00:25:25.479Rayshawn Buchanan: So yeah, I hope that he's come back and he's ready to rock and roll.23300:25:25.620 --> 00:25:29.619Rayshawn Buchanan: once again, they got, they got Ted McMillan, they have,23400:25:30.550 --> 00:25:33.849Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, they got Xavier Leguette from, South Carolina.23500:25:35.430 --> 00:25:43.699Rayshawn Buchanan: I forget who this hiding is, but, you know, so they got some players there, but not to the point that they should come into here and win.23600:25:43.860 --> 00:25:49.229Rayshawn Buchanan: So, I… yeah, I don't know, but hopefully he comes back.23700:25:49.300 --> 00:25:59.799Mike Marcangelo: Once again, even if it's the packages, but hopefully he should be out there Sunday. He should be. Before we get into previewing the game and making our weekly picks.23800:26:00.210 --> 00:26:13.839Mike Marcangelo: what was… and the… you can't say turnovers, so that's… that is… that cannot be it. What was the… the number… what was the biggest issue you saw for the Patriots team, against the Steelers?23900:26:14.090 --> 00:26:15.410Rayshawn Buchanan: The lack of pass rush.24000:26:16.380 --> 00:26:23.140Rayshawn Buchanan: Right? Like a patchwork. Like I say, you have to get there. You have to get there.24100:26:24.020 --> 00:26:34.500Rayshawn Buchanan: I know it's hard to hurry up someone as good as Aaron Rodgers, because he doesn't get sped up, especially at this stage of his career. But you gotta get there at least once. Gotta get there.24200:26:35.380 --> 00:26:40.659Rayshawn Buchanan: Because him having to clean pocket. Now, granted, he didn't pick you apart like he could, like he can, at times.24300:26:41.000 --> 00:26:42.039Mike Marcangelo: Like, he could've.24400:26:42.160 --> 00:26:54.240Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, like, yeah, you know what I'm saying? So that wasn't the case, but… or even if he just did what he did at week one. Like, because that's what it felt like. You would have thought that, damn, he came in here and did what he did week one against us, and that was not the case.24500:26:55.200 --> 00:26:55.600Mike Marcangelo: Yep.24600:26:55.600 --> 00:27:12.799Rayshawn Buchanan: I think he was just motivated to go, and hey, I'm happy that he came out here and said, hey, I'm gonna give the Jets whatever I can give at this moment in my career, and he did. So, cool. So it's good to know that he can still, you know, give us, you know, somewhat of a performance when he needs to, but…24700:27:12.800 --> 00:27:18.790Mike Marcangelo: It's just… the frustrating part is, is, like, you saw what happened to him in Seattle when he was under arrest.24800:27:19.230 --> 00:27:21.480Mike Marcangelo: He can't break away anymore.24900:27:22.440 --> 00:27:28.060Mike Marcangelo: It can't… I mean, he can still throw on the run better than, I'd say, like, a third of the NFL can.25000:27:28.190 --> 00:27:29.549Mike Marcangelo: But he's lost that.25100:27:29.550 --> 00:27:38.100Rayshawn Buchanan: It's actually pretty ridiculous how he still can sling it from… like, it's wild. Like… Yeah. Yeah, him on the run, yeah, is… is… is…25200:27:38.230 --> 00:27:41.180Rayshawn Buchanan: Still… he's, yeah, still very elite. Still very elite.25300:27:41.710 --> 00:27:51.359Mike Marcangelo: you didn't even put him in a position to have to do that. That's the aggravating part. You spent, what was it, $100 million in the offseason on your pass rush?25400:27:51.490 --> 00:27:56.450Mike Marcangelo: And… You couldn't get a 41-year-old Aaron Rodgers.25500:27:56.800 --> 00:27:57.210Rayshawn Buchanan: Mmm.25600:27:57.210 --> 00:28:00.909Mike Marcangelo: as Phil Simms used to say, every single fucking week, off the spot.25700:28:01.220 --> 00:28:06.360Rayshawn Buchanan: We've seen Brady at 41 not get tackled at times either, so… I mean…25800:28:06.360 --> 00:28:07.229Mike Marcangelo: You know, but you just.25900:28:07.230 --> 00:28:12.159Rayshawn Buchanan: And Brady was still stationary, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't running. So…26000:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.210Mike Marcangelo: I refuse to compare the two.26100:28:14.540 --> 00:28:18.369Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I'm talking about at the age, I'm saying, like, he was… he just wasn't… he wasn't mobile. That's not…26200:28:18.370 --> 00:28:19.040Mike Marcangelo: Sure.26300:28:19.040 --> 00:28:23.889Rayshawn Buchanan: Well, that's all I'm saying, of course. Once again, I've always thought that Brady was…26400:28:24.370 --> 00:28:28.900Rayshawn Buchanan: better than Ryan. Like, the only person to me that you can even…26500:28:29.190 --> 00:28:39.110Rayshawn Buchanan: put in the… I mean, people are gonna say Mahomes, but it's not to me, it's Payne Manning. You put them… but other than that, I'm not… I'm not here. If you ever argue with somebody else, I'm not… I'm not listening.26600:28:39.110 --> 00:28:44.789Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, we can go down too much of a rabbit hole, but, like, just to… just to quote DK says, I'll, like.26700:28:44.790 --> 00:28:53.819Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, but I wanted to say this too, and I hope I didn't lose my point, but oh, it was something with the offense. Oh, they're going on 4th downs.26800:28:54.250 --> 00:29:01.739Rayshawn Buchanan: I loved that. Loved it. Loved it. Me too. Loved it, loved it. I need more of that. Like…26900:29:01.740 --> 00:29:03.470Mike Marcangelo: Four of five. Four of five.27000:29:03.470 --> 00:29:23.030Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I need more of that. So, Mike Rayro, get your, you know, get your play calls together, get, you know, get the aggressiveness going, get that flowing. Once again, that shows in your team that you believe in them, and that they can go get a first down. So, I'm here for it. I'm here for it. And once again, you should have been 5 for 5. Should have been 5 for 5. Should have been.27100:29:23.030 --> 00:29:24.520Rayshawn Buchanan: Should've been 5 for 5.27200:29:24.520 --> 00:29:27.300Rayshawn Buchanan: But, you know, you have…27300:29:29.010 --> 00:29:38.569Rayshawn Buchanan: I just wish that, you know, especially with Bill Parcells being there, I wish that Rabel had went full Parcells and called Demario Douglas she, like he did with Terry Glenn.27400:29:38.820 --> 00:29:39.560Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, that…27500:29:39.560 --> 00:29:42.959Mike Marcangelo: Oh, you can't do that. In 2025, you get canceled, too.27600:29:44.320 --> 00:29:45.179Mike Marcangelo: Can't do that.27700:29:45.180 --> 00:29:50.160Rayshawn Buchanan: hey, he canceled his channel, so it's okay. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright.27800:29:51.670 --> 00:29:56.619Mike Marcangelo: So, the Carolina Panthers come into… come into Gillette Stadium, this week.27900:29:57.480 --> 00:30:14.850Mike Marcangelo: And they are… they are fresh off of a 30-0 win over the Atlanta Falcons. Again, just think about this stat line. The Carolina Panthers beat the Atlanta Falcons 30-0. Bryce Young was 16-24 for 121 yards. No touchdowns, no picks.28000:30:15.700 --> 00:30:18.909Mike Marcangelo: Their rushers ran 30 times for 110 yards.28100:30:19.660 --> 00:30:26.030Mike Marcangelo: I mean, This offense is an offense that we should be able to shut down.28200:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.440Mike Marcangelo: But it's at home, so now I'm questioning things.28300:30:31.750 --> 00:30:37.860Rayshawn Buchanan: If Bryce Young comes in with, like, Steve Birdline, or Jake DeLoam.28400:30:38.300 --> 00:30:40.320Rayshawn Buchanan: Or even Cam Newton's prime.28500:30:40.820 --> 00:30:41.930Mike Marcangelo: Ready, tester, ready.28600:30:42.490 --> 00:30:47.760Rayshawn Buchanan: I forgot, I forgot he played. Wow.28700:30:48.880 --> 00:30:55.310Rayshawn Buchanan: if their running backs come in, like Deshaun Foster, Steven Davis, Mike Tolbert, like, if anybody…28800:30:55.310 --> 00:30:56.420Mike Marcangelo: Christian McCaffrey.28900:30:56.420 --> 00:30:57.720Rayshawn Buchanan: McCaffrey, like, they come in.29000:30:57.720 --> 00:30:58.230Mike Marcangelo: Just all day.29100:30:58.300 --> 00:31:00.370Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm going to… I'm going to…29200:31:01.880 --> 00:31:09.670Rayshawn Buchanan: like, flip my wig. I'm going to, because it's like, it's unbelievable. I'm telling you, teams in general come up here real comfortable.29300:31:10.070 --> 00:31:14.369Rayshawn Buchanan: It's unbelievable how comfortable teams are in this building. It's wild to me.29400:31:14.500 --> 00:31:15.630Rayshawn Buchanan: is wild.29500:31:16.620 --> 00:31:19.819Mike Marcangelo: If the Carolina Panthers come in here, and they get a win.29600:31:20.740 --> 00:31:33.619Mike Marcangelo: Rayshawn Buchanan is going to set up the TV stand that he has for his TV… that he's had for a couple of years so far, just to fucking smash it. Just to smash it. You can't lose to Bryce, you can't lose to fucking Chubba.29700:31:34.100 --> 00:31:36.729Mike Marcangelo: I… I just reject. Trevo Hubbard?29800:31:36.730 --> 00:31:39.990Rayshawn Buchanan: I like him a lot. I like Chuck Barber, I like Chuck a lot. I think he's…29900:31:40.550 --> 00:31:41.650Rayshawn Buchanan: What do you like about them?30000:31:42.440 --> 00:31:47.749Rayshawn Buchanan: I think he's a decent running back, but it's just like, not… I don't care about his name. I think he's a decent running back.30100:31:48.370 --> 00:31:54.830Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, but like I said, but he's not someone that should come in here and give him a 50, I know that. That shouldn't happen.30200:31:55.060 --> 00:31:57.100Rayshawn Buchanan: So, they better figure it out come Sunday.30300:31:57.260 --> 00:32:12.960Mike Marcangelo: What if… so, let me ask you a question. What if Bryce Shoem has a similar stat line? Let's just… let's just amp it up a little bit. Let's say he goes 21 of 29 for 225 yards, 1 touchdown, no picks. Chevo Hubbard goes 19 carries for 110 yards of a touchdown.30400:32:14.950 --> 00:32:18.230Rayshawn Buchanan: they pop… they… Either…30500:32:18.470 --> 00:32:27.410Rayshawn Buchanan: either it goes down to the wire, or Carolina probably wins that game, which is insane to me, but that's… once again, they just won 30 to nothing.30600:32:29.170 --> 00:32:33.579Rayshawn Buchanan: Atlanta's not very good, but it's just, like, I would like to think that we're better than Atlanta.30700:32:34.260 --> 00:32:35.589Rayshawn Buchanan: I would like to think that.30800:32:37.170 --> 00:32:45.020Mike Marcangelo: I mean, are we? Offensively, we are. We should be. We are. We're better offensively. We don't have as many weapons, but somehow we are better offensively than they are.30900:32:47.110 --> 00:32:48.220Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I…31000:32:48.220 --> 00:32:50.480Mike Marcangelo: I mean, I'd take… I would take Drake over Penix.31100:32:50.820 --> 00:32:51.270Rayshawn Buchanan: Right.31200:32:51.270 --> 00:32:52.390Mike Marcangelo: Every single day of the week.31300:32:52.390 --> 00:32:52.890Rayshawn Buchanan: We put…31400:32:52.890 --> 00:32:53.210Mike Marcangelo: I would…31500:32:53.210 --> 00:32:54.949Rayshawn Buchanan: 71 years old, so yeah.31600:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.439Mike Marcangelo: I'd take Bijan over any one of our running backs.31700:32:58.750 --> 00:32:59.480Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm sure.31800:33:00.060 --> 00:33:03.490Mike Marcangelo: And I'd take Drake London, Darnell Mooney, and Kyle Pitts.31900:33:04.650 --> 00:33:08.179Mike Marcangelo: Over… I would say most of our skilled players do.32000:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.229Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm… listen, I'm… if it doesn't work for Kyle Pitts this year, I told… I said this in the.32100:33:14.490 --> 00:33:15.399Mike Marcangelo: Bring him up here.32200:33:15.700 --> 00:33:30.649Rayshawn Buchanan: Listen, go get him. Elliot, go see… go get him a fifth rounder for him, and call it a day. Fifth rounder, even take off the hoop or two, take him. Take him, and bring him back home to Atlanta. Bring him back home.32300:33:30.650 --> 00:33:35.550Mike Marcangelo: And you get… then you get Hunter Henry and Kyle Pitts, and Josh, and Josh's system.32400:33:35.550 --> 00:33:36.489Rayshawn Buchanan: Buy me up.32500:33:36.890 --> 00:33:41.259Rayshawn Buchanan: Sign me up. Like, I'm here for it. I… yeah.32600:33:42.090 --> 00:33:45.329Mike Marcangelo: Is there a chance that Kyle Pitts turns into Johnny Smith?32700:33:46.980 --> 00:33:48.540Rayshawn Buchanan: Carrying me, if he was there?32800:33:48.540 --> 00:33:53.459Mike Marcangelo: No, I mean, just in general. I mean, Janu had one big gear calipitz hasn't had that.32900:33:53.460 --> 00:33:57.150Rayshawn Buchanan: He's, he's, he's in, he's in that mold,33000:33:57.340 --> 00:33:59.659Rayshawn Buchanan: I think he's better than Jono Smith, like…33100:33:59.660 --> 00:34:00.500Mike Marcangelo: should be better.33200:34:00.500 --> 00:34:04.939Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I think he, you know, I mean, but he's also still young enough where…33300:34:05.120 --> 00:34:08.950Rayshawn Buchanan: he still can make that impact, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's, what, 25, I think?33400:34:09.040 --> 00:34:10.179Mike Marcangelo: Yep.33500:34:10.730 --> 00:34:26.059Rayshawn Buchanan: So yeah, I would… I would… I would absolutely look to go get them if I can. If they're… if they're out of it by week 8, which is very feasible, I would… I would get Arthur Blink on the phone, or whoever, Thomas DeMuto, whoever's down there, hey,33600:34:26.469 --> 00:34:31.030Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, we'd like to give y'all a fifth in Austin Hooper for Kyle Pitts.33700:34:32.790 --> 00:34:34.259Mike Marcangelo: Probably wouldn't give them Austin Hooper.33800:34:34.520 --> 00:34:35.779Rayshawn Buchanan: That's what I'm saying, yeah33900:34:36.420 --> 00:34:39.670Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah. Don't, don't, no, no, don't give Austin Hoover, just give him a fifth round.34000:34:42.020 --> 00:34:53.379Rayshawn Buchanan: Oh, but I mean, yeah, I mean, that'd be cool, too. I just… I'm just saying, to me, if I'm them, I'm just like, I want to play her back, like, I'm not just gonna… like, I need to play her back. You know what I'm saying? So,34100:34:53.980 --> 00:34:59.040Rayshawn Buchanan: like, Hooper, you know, I think Hooper has been somewhat productive here.34200:34:59.350 --> 00:35:02.649Rayshawn Buchanan: once again, I think that with Pittsburgh being this offense.34300:35:03.520 --> 00:35:08.880Rayshawn Buchanan: like, would do wonders for Drake May. Like, I got…34400:35:08.880 --> 00:35:09.270Mike Marcangelo: Good.34500:35:09.310 --> 00:35:09.950Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, absolutely.34600:35:09.950 --> 00:35:18.000Mike Marcangelo: right. Should do wonders. Alright. What are your… what are the… what are the top two things that the Panthers need to do in order to come into Gillette Stadium and win?34700:35:21.210 --> 00:35:22.269Rayshawn Buchanan: be competent.34800:35:24.100 --> 00:35:36.210Rayshawn Buchanan: be confident and run the football. But this, so, this is why I keep saying this, and I know, you know, you've gotten on me, Dave's gotten on me, I think even Bobby at times.34900:35:36.780 --> 00:35:41.070Rayshawn Buchanan: But this is why I keep saying about the run sets up the pass.35000:35:41.670 --> 00:35:56.209Rayshawn Buchanan: When you're able to run the football, it opens up everything, because they're so worried about what's gonna happen in that, in that, you know, between the gaps, that now you could throw something over the top, even if it's just a little crossing route, you could just throw it over the top.35100:35:56.210 --> 00:36:02.780Rayshawn Buchanan: the run sets up the pass, like, you gotta have people run the ball. So, like.35200:36:03.280 --> 00:36:04.059Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, we do.35300:36:04.060 --> 00:36:09.609Rayshawn Buchanan: We do, but no, I'm saying, you gotta have a guy that can run it, so… But yeah, but be confident.35400:36:10.010 --> 00:36:11.410Mike Marcangelo: And…35500:36:12.010 --> 00:36:15.840Rayshawn Buchanan: Just don't turn the ball over 5 times, and you could come in here and get a win.35600:36:16.110 --> 00:36:16.930Rayshawn Buchanan: So…35700:36:18.470 --> 00:36:30.620Mike Marcangelo: Okay, now let's get just a little more positivity here. How confident are you in the Patriots giving the victory? Obviously, don't pick them yet. But what do you think they need to do? Like, do they need to do anything special in order to beat the Carolina Panthers?35800:36:31.380 --> 00:36:34.820Rayshawn Buchanan: Not special, but just, just make, just make timely plays.35900:36:35.020 --> 00:36:45.510Rayshawn Buchanan: play sound football, right? So, whether that's getting to the, you know, make sure you tackle, make sure you're not missing assignments,36000:36:45.710 --> 00:36:53.010Rayshawn Buchanan: So once again, just literally doing the basics of what got you to the league. Doing the basics should win you the game.36100:36:53.310 --> 00:36:59.409Rayshawn Buchanan: Do your job. We've heard that for a million years here. Do your job, you win the game. That simple.36200:36:59.830 --> 00:37:09.410Rayshawn Buchanan: because that was, again, they've gotten better offensively, they've shown a pass rush at times, you're possibly getting your best player back on defense, you know, come Sunday, so…36300:37:09.410 --> 00:37:26.240Rayshawn Buchanan: even if he is just in… even if he just plays 15 to 20 snaps, like, you're better with him on the field, because everyone goes back into their natural position. But I also… I meant to say this, too, because I just… it slipped my mind, but I know you thought about it, you just forgot to bring it up.36400:37:27.630 --> 00:37:29.710Rayshawn Buchanan: at the Wish You Saw Sunday.36500:37:29.840 --> 00:37:35.429Rayshawn Buchanan: you cannot tell me that Jabril Peppers could not still have made an impact on this team.36600:37:37.640 --> 00:37:45.340Mike Marcangelo: Well, I was thinking about that too, but he's not fast enough. He's just not what they're looking for. I mean…36700:37:45.540 --> 00:37:53.649Rayshawn Buchanan: Someone that can hit someone and possibly knock the ball out, and… no, no, of course not. Why not?36800:37:53.650 --> 00:37:56.559Mike Marcangelo: I mean, what are you gonna do? You gonna put him one-on-one with DK Metcalf?36900:37:57.890 --> 00:38:06.759Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I mean, that… I mean, they put Carlton Davis, but Carlton Davis don't do much. Once again, I'm not a fan of him yet. He has to earn my respect. But.37000:38:06.760 --> 00:38:11.069Mike Marcangelo: Well, week one did a really hard… I mean, he… he made it really fucking tough for you.37100:38:11.240 --> 00:38:23.790Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. But no, they… it looks like they're putting Mapple on those guys now. Marte Mapple's the guy that they're putting on the tight ends and the DK Metcalf type of receivers, so…37200:38:23.980 --> 00:38:29.289Rayshawn Buchanan: You have that, but once again, you just talked about you got 23 out of 53.37300:38:29.410 --> 00:38:35.349Rayshawn Buchanan: That's a little… maybe a little over 40%, maybe? 45%-ish players?37400:38:35.980 --> 00:38:37.369Rayshawn Buchanan: That's not good enough.37500:38:37.870 --> 00:38:44.069Rayshawn Buchanan: It's not good. It's not. So, there's no way… you're not telling me that Gibralt peppers couldn't have made some type of impact here.37600:38:44.250 --> 00:38:46.189Rayshawn Buchanan: Even if it was a lemonade roll. No way.37700:38:46.190 --> 00:38:48.449Mike Marcangelo: Didn't he si- didn't he sign with Pittsburgh?37800:38:48.450 --> 00:38:50.489Rayshawn Buchanan: Sure did, that's why I brought it up, yeah.37900:38:50.490 --> 00:38:51.090Mike Marcangelo: Yep.38000:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.549Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I'm saying, he played well for them on Sunday.38100:38:54.940 --> 00:39:02.789Mike Marcangelo: I just… for some reason, I just have flashbacks of John Deuce Smith cooking Jabil Peppers, when he was on the Dolphins, like.38200:39:02.950 --> 00:39:03.939Mike Marcangelo: Four times.38300:39:05.790 --> 00:39:08.580Rayshawn Buchanan: But Jonathan Smith, when, when, when…38400:39:09.140 --> 00:39:15.100Rayshawn Buchanan: when he produced, like, he was actually a pretty decent tenant, which is why he got the money he got here.38500:39:15.600 --> 00:39:25.310Rayshawn Buchanan: he could play, it just, unfortunately, it just was too much up here, unfortunately, but he could play. Everywhere else he's produced. You know, but yeah. So…38600:39:27.010 --> 00:39:34.539Mike Marcangelo: You don't seem too positive, which is my favorite version of you, Mr. Hollywood. So let's run down week 4 of the NFL, shall we?38700:39:34.540 --> 00:39:35.360Rayshawn Buchanan: Let's do it.38800:39:35.580 --> 00:39:44.889Mike Marcangelo: Seattle, visits Arizona. That will be, Thursday Night Football. Currently, Seattle is a, is a 1.5 point favorite.38900:39:44.930 --> 00:39:46.479Rayshawn Buchanan: So, who you got?39000:39:46.990 --> 00:39:55.460Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm right away, Arizona. I think that they're… I know they lost James Carter, but, you know, what else is new? Unfortunately, he's always out, he's always injured.39100:39:55.590 --> 00:40:03.730Rayshawn Buchanan: But I just think that they're a better team. I know that Seattle had a good win against, New Orleans on Sunday. They smoked them, but…39200:40:04.420 --> 00:40:13.320Rayshawn Buchanan: Arizona and New Orleans, so I think that, obviously, pick them would be in one and a half, obviously, but, I'm gonna ride with Arizona.39300:40:14.270 --> 00:40:27.270Mike Marcangelo: Minnesota travels to Pittsburgh, well, no, I actually don't think that's true. Minnesota and Pittsburgh both travel to Ireland for a 9.30 a.m. start. Minnesota is favored by 2.5 points. What do you got?39400:40:27.970 --> 00:40:31.720Rayshawn Buchanan: I think Minnesota smokes them. I do.39500:40:31.850 --> 00:40:34.300Rayshawn Buchanan: Aaron Rodgers is gonna be pissed to be over there.39600:40:34.300 --> 00:40:36.159Mike Marcangelo: You think Carson Wentz is just gonna go off?39700:40:36.860 --> 00:40:42.859Rayshawn Buchanan: I mean, we saw what happened Sunday. I'm not… he didn't go off Sunday, but I'm saying, but we saw them put up 50, almost.39800:40:43.190 --> 00:40:47.740Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, I… now, granted, it's a neutral… it's a neutral field, so we'll see what happens, but…39900:40:48.030 --> 00:40:58.429Rayshawn Buchanan: Aaron Rodgers being 94 years old, going across the pond, like, I don't see a good, I don't see good football being produced from him, so I'm gonna ride with Minnesota.40000:40:58.940 --> 00:41:12.379Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I'm gonna take Minnesota, too. That's just mostly because I fucking hate Aaron Rodgers, and I hope the Steelers lose every game. With Commanders at the Falcons at the 1 o'clock game, Commanders are only favored in this game by one and a half points, that doesn't make any sense.40100:41:12.380 --> 00:41:13.509Rayshawn Buchanan: comedy. My wife.40200:41:13.510 --> 00:41:15.920Mike Marcangelo: That's cr- that- that's crazy.40300:41:16.160 --> 00:41:24.570Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, that's… that's a… that's a no-brainer, that's a no-doubter, like, Washington wins that.40400:41:26.360 --> 00:41:35.180Mike Marcangelo: The problem is, though, Vegas usually knows something that we don't. They all… there's a reason why this over… you know, that the spread is… is this.40500:41:35.320 --> 00:41:38.989Mike Marcangelo: I think that's really fucking laughable, though.40600:41:39.570 --> 00:41:41.339Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, one and a half is crazy.40700:41:41.590 --> 00:41:42.300Mike Marcangelo: It's crazy.40800:41:42.810 --> 00:41:48.729Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, I'll take… I'll take the commanders, too. New Orleans travels up to Buffalo, Buffalo's favorite.40900:41:48.730 --> 00:41:53.270Rayshawn Buchanan: That's crazy. That's just as crazy as the one and a half. That's crazy.41000:41:53.270 --> 00:42:05.580Mike Marcangelo: What do you think's crazier? What is least likely to happen? The Bills win by more than 16 points? Or that the Commanders win by less than a point?41100:42:07.760 --> 00:42:20.160Rayshawn Buchanan: I still think it's the Bills, like, this is an NFL team, bro, like, 17 is crazy, like, that's wild. That's wild! 17 points, bro? That's a lot, like…41200:42:20.460 --> 00:42:28.880Rayshawn Buchanan: like, you're probably gonna be on the line. Like, granted, New Orleans is not a good team, and we talked about this, like, we were spot on about New Orleans not being good.41300:42:29.460 --> 00:42:32.680Rayshawn Buchanan: Obviously, the Bills are going to win, I just, I don't know…41400:42:32.810 --> 00:42:43.730Rayshawn Buchanan: If there ever was a trap game, and I'm not saying a trap game, they're gonna lose, but I'll say a trap game, like, New Orleans might keep it close for a little bit, and then they get, they get blown out, but 17's a lot. That's a lot.41500:42:43.730 --> 00:42:47.870Mike Marcangelo: 16.5 points is wild, like you said, for two NFL themes.41600:42:47.870 --> 00:42:48.370Rayshawn Buchanan: Damn.41700:42:48.370 --> 00:42:53.820Mike Marcangelo: I also think that this is… this is a game that Josh Allen and the Bills have typically slept on.41800:42:54.030 --> 00:42:55.470Rayshawn Buchanan: And almost lost.41900:42:55.470 --> 00:43:03.929Mike Marcangelo: So if I were you, I would take New Orleans, for the spread, but I would take, you know, I would obviously pick the Buffalo women's game.42000:43:03.930 --> 00:43:04.890Rayshawn Buchanan: Right.42100:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.960Mike Marcangelo: Cleveland at Detroit. Looks like the, you know, it looks like the Lions are back.42200:43:09.100 --> 00:43:10.210Mike Marcangelo: Cleveland…42300:43:10.210 --> 00:43:10.620Rayshawn Buchanan: Hmm?42400:43:10.620 --> 00:43:14.349Mike Marcangelo: I mean, their offense is fucking anemic.42500:43:14.750 --> 00:43:18.700Rayshawn Buchanan: How about that, though? And them coming back,42600:43:19.100 --> 00:43:22.690Rayshawn Buchanan: and winning against Green Bay, I said, wow.42700:43:22.820 --> 00:43:24.899Mike Marcangelo: Doesn't help my Jordan Love narrative, I can tell you that.42800:43:24.900 --> 00:43:29.819Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I mean, same here, but I'm like… but… but that's another quick aside, too, right?42900:43:30.170 --> 00:43:41.220Rayshawn Buchanan: we're seeing a lot of mediocre quarterback play across the league. Like, if you're throwing for under 200, I want y'all to know, ladies and gentlemen, that's mediocre. There's nothing cool about… even 225, I'm like…43000:43:41.470 --> 00:43:50.359Rayshawn Buchanan: anything 250 and above, I'm like, alright, but you're throwing barely 200 yards, like, you're not that good. It's not that good.43100:43:50.360 --> 00:44:03.119Mike Marcangelo: Well, I think that the difference would be if you're, like, 11… if you're, like, 14 of 18 for 220 yards, that means that your team probably won that game handily. And you ran the ball. But if you're dropping back 27 times.43200:44:03.120 --> 00:44:07.129Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, and 11 to 27 for, like, 202? Like, that's…43300:44:07.130 --> 00:44:13.470Mike Marcangelo: Or, like, Aaron Rodgers is 18 of 24, or 16 of 24 for $1.37? Like, you're out of your fucking mind? Are you out of your mind?43400:44:13.470 --> 00:44:20.380Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, right, right. And I'm just like, mind you, and Drake was 20 or 37, I'm like, dude, throw it 50 times. Like, what are we doing?43500:44:22.690 --> 00:44:24.650Rayshawn Buchanan: I assume that you're taking Detroit?43600:44:24.890 --> 00:44:27.489Rayshawn Buchanan: Yes, I mean, they're back, baby, they're back!43700:44:27.490 --> 00:44:34.349Mike Marcangelo: Any chance, any chance we see, we have a Dylan Gabriel or a… or a Shadora Sanders sighting in this game?43800:44:34.600 --> 00:44:40.879Rayshawn Buchanan: Might be Dylan Gabriel, but I think they're hell-bent on not letting Sugar play this year.43900:44:40.880 --> 00:44:42.170Mike Marcangelo: So stupid.44000:44:42.170 --> 00:44:45.790Rayshawn Buchanan: It is stupid, but I think they tried to stick it to him, which is unfortunate, but it is what it is.44100:44:45.790 --> 00:44:47.049Mike Marcangelo: So, like, why draft him?44200:44:48.700 --> 00:44:53.429Rayshawn Buchanan: who knows? I don't know, and I can't say because they felt the pressure, because it was in the fifth round, so it wasn't like…44300:44:53.430 --> 00:44:54.280Mike Marcangelo: He would've…44400:44:54.510 --> 00:45:00.660Mike Marcangelo: I'm just gonna double down on the take that I made in the offseason, like, before the draft. The perfect place for Shador would have been New Orleans.44500:45:01.590 --> 00:45:06.419Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially with what they got going on right now, like…44600:45:06.600 --> 00:45:11.750Rayshawn Buchanan: You're telling me that Tyler Shaw and Spencer Rowler are the answers?44700:45:12.010 --> 00:45:14.629Mike Marcangelo: No! No, you got, you got Kumar…44800:45:14.630 --> 00:45:15.140Rayshawn Buchanan: I don't keep…44900:45:15.140 --> 00:45:16.120Mike Marcangelo: Lave…45000:45:16.360 --> 00:45:16.690Rayshawn Buchanan: Ew.45100:45:16.690 --> 00:45:22.509Mike Marcangelo: I mean, should or could've done something there. Carolina, over here, Carolina comes up to New England.45200:45:23.070 --> 00:45:27.490Mike Marcangelo: This used to be such a win. New England spared by 5.5 points.45300:45:27.490 --> 00:45:29.680Rayshawn Buchanan: That's… that's laughable to me.45400:45:30.500 --> 00:45:31.790Rayshawn Buchanan: That's laughable.45500:45:32.950 --> 00:45:39.450Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, two and a half would have been… I'd have been okay, but 5? You said Joe was beaten up by a touchdown? No way. No way.45600:45:39.710 --> 00:45:43.110Mike Marcangelo: So you're picking Carolina in the spread, but who are you taking to win the game?45700:45:43.110 --> 00:45:48.869Rayshawn Buchanan: No, I think New England wins, but I'm saying, but that's… no, no way. Not worried about a touchdown.45800:45:48.870 --> 00:45:55.989Mike Marcangelo: Typically, home team gets 2 points, so really, I don't know what's more offensive, the fact that we… that they think that we're only a field goal better than Carolina?45900:45:56.340 --> 00:45:59.879Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I think it's gonna be 23-20. I really do.46000:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.640Rayshawn Buchanan: I think the K gets his first game-winning field goal.46100:46:04.740 --> 00:46:05.150Mike Marcangelo: Hmm.46200:46:05.520 --> 00:46:07.100Rayshawn Buchanan: So, we'll see.46300:46:07.280 --> 00:46:08.030Mike Marcangelo: Okay?46400:46:08.170 --> 00:46:11.160Mike Marcangelo: Chargers at the Giants.46500:46:11.700 --> 00:46:20.330Mike Marcangelo: So this is… oh god. The Giants are going with their rookie quarterback. They are benching Russell Wilson. That took… that took long.46600:46:20.520 --> 00:46:22.520Rayshawn Buchanan: I, I think that's… I think that's crazy.46700:46:22.780 --> 00:46:24.200Rayshawn Buchanan: He has not been a problem.46800:46:25.670 --> 00:46:28.529Mike Marcangelo: He has, but he hasn't been… he hasn't been the solution either.46900:46:28.530 --> 00:46:33.539Rayshawn Buchanan: That team sucks! That team sucks overall, like, it's one thing…47000:46:34.060 --> 00:46:41.100Rayshawn Buchanan: It's one thing if they were coming in, and him… them thinking he was gonna be the missing piece, like how Pittsburgh fed up by Aaron Rodgers, right?47100:46:41.280 --> 00:46:45.350Rayshawn Buchanan: Or even how Pittsburgh felt about him last year, right? That's different.47200:46:45.510 --> 00:46:46.420Mike Marcangelo: Yo.47300:46:47.120 --> 00:46:52.360Rayshawn Buchanan: But he wasn't coming in… To be the… to be the missing piece.47400:46:52.540 --> 00:47:09.979Rayshawn Buchanan: he was gonna be add-ons to what they had. And once again, he's put up some decent numbers in the last few weeks, so, we'll see, though. We'll see if he's Kurt Warner and Justin Dart is Eli. We're gonna see. We're gonna find out.47500:47:10.530 --> 00:47:16.419Rayshawn Buchanan: I think the Giants will be charged up for this game, pun intended, but they still lose.47600:47:16.570 --> 00:47:28.430Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, Herbert's on fire. He's different. He's different right now, that team is different. And once again, it's early in the year, they're healthy. When Chargers… when Chargers teams, historically, when they're healthy, they're really good.47700:47:28.430 --> 00:47:29.760Mike Marcangelo: Mine is not Jay Harris.47800:47:30.370 --> 00:47:31.739Rayshawn Buchanan: Is that… is that Ian?47900:47:31.740 --> 00:47:34.370Mike Marcangelo: Minus Najee Harris, he's out for the rest of the season.48000:47:35.990 --> 00:47:37.859Rayshawn Buchanan: Oh, I… what happened to him?48100:47:39.050 --> 00:47:40.829Mike Marcangelo: Well, he got injured.48200:47:40.830 --> 00:47:47.169Rayshawn Buchanan: Oh, yeah, Angel, okay. Yeah, I feel like that's been… no, I'm gonna say, I know for some reason he got suspended, or… because I might feel like things just be happening, but…48300:47:47.200 --> 00:47:51.279Mike Marcangelo: I'm pretty… I'm pretty sure he tore his Achilles. That's what they're saying.48400:47:51.630 --> 00:48:08.769Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, that seems to be a more apparent injury in sports, so that's like a phenomenon that is wild. But Marion Hampton, I'm a fan of him, like, I wanted him here because I thought that, you know, he played with Drake, and I was just like, why not get him? But yeah, Chargers can still win that game, though. They should still win that.48500:48:10.620 --> 00:48:12.090Mike Marcangelo: So now we have…48600:48:12.520 --> 00:48:18.289Mike Marcangelo: The Philadelphia Eagles traveling down to Tampa Bay to take on the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers have been, I mean, listen.48700:48:19.370 --> 00:48:37.459Mike Marcangelo: Say what you want, that quarterback is so much fun to watch. Now, it's because he's… he's razor… he walks that… that really thin line, you just don't know what the fuck he's gonna do. Baker… Baker could throw for 500 yards and 5 touchdowns, he could throw for 500 yards and 5 interceptions.48800:48:37.460 --> 00:48:40.030Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, he's a smaller Jameis.48900:48:40.030 --> 00:48:41.589Mike Marcangelo: But Philly's a wagon.49000:48:42.720 --> 00:48:47.079Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, that was a hell of a comeback against LA on Sunday.49100:48:47.900 --> 00:48:49.550Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm gonna go with Buccaneers, though.49200:48:50.830 --> 00:48:51.550Rayshawn Buchanan: Okay, I…49300:48:51.550 --> 00:48:52.320Mike Marcangelo: Really?49400:48:52.320 --> 00:49:11.669Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I think that Tampa finds a way to get it done early. Only because they're at their home. Like, if they was at… I was about to say, I was gonna show my age. They was at the vet, not the vet, if they're at the link. If they was at the link, I would choose Philadelphia, but I think that, I think that Tampa Bay would come out there. I love,49500:49:11.710 --> 00:49:22.150Rayshawn Buchanan: their wide receiver from Ohio State, their rookie, Emeka, I forget how to say his last name, but, that, that dude is nice, and…49600:49:22.210 --> 00:49:25.460Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, they just find… they just find guys down there, so from Godwin.49700:49:25.460 --> 00:49:25.960Mike Marcangelo: feels…49800:49:25.960 --> 00:49:26.410Rayshawn Buchanan: It's just…49900:49:26.410 --> 00:49:31.960Mike Marcangelo: It feels like they already have their replacement for Mike Evans lined up. Right. Which is fucking scary.50000:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.510Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, he's still producing, right, so…50100:49:34.510 --> 00:49:36.410Mike Marcangelo: Right, of course he is. Right, so…50200:49:36.410 --> 00:49:37.010Rayshawn Buchanan: No.50300:49:37.390 --> 00:49:46.769Mike Marcangelo: Two 0-3 teams, Tennessee Titans traveled to Houston, Houston started by 7.5 points, which, again, is fucking wild, especially because it's a divisional game.50400:49:48.120 --> 00:49:52.630Mike Marcangelo: somebody's gotta win, I think, unless they tie, but I'm gonna take Houston.50500:49:53.580 --> 00:49:55.539Rayshawn Buchanan: Give me, give me, give me Tennessee.50600:49:55.780 --> 00:49:57.120Mike Marcangelo: No way.50700:49:57.120 --> 00:50:00.240Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm in Tennessee. I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I think that…50800:50:00.240 --> 00:50:03.119Mike Marcangelo: Did you pick Houston to win 9 games? Weren't you team AOC?50900:50:04.430 --> 00:50:18.610Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, but this is about right now. We're not talking about the game, we're talking about right now. Right now, they suck, and they're 0-3, and I just… I just don't think that they… like, sometimes, when teams like that, when it starts to spiral like that,51000:50:18.700 --> 00:50:21.940Rayshawn Buchanan: It just… it goes… it gets a lot worse before it gets better.51100:50:21.940 --> 00:50:40.089Rayshawn Buchanan: And I think… and once again, I like Cam Ward coming out of, well, he was in Houston first, then he got to Miami, but I like Cam Ward. I think they've had some decent moments, they just haven't put it together. I think they put it together Sunday, and they win in the late moments of that game. I do.51200:50:42.430 --> 00:50:44.590Mike Marcangelo: 0-4. Can you imagine if Houston's 0-4?51300:50:44.590 --> 00:50:48.850Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, listen, I'm here for the drama, so… or been happening.51400:50:48.850 --> 00:51:02.909Mike Marcangelo: The undefeated Colts travel to the Rams. The Rams are fared by 3.5 points. Devonte Adams is having a renaissance. Matthew Stafford still looks good. Puku Nakua is who everyone thinks he is.51500:51:03.840 --> 00:51:07.899Mike Marcangelo: I… I love everything that's happening with, with Indy.51600:51:08.020 --> 00:51:12.359Mike Marcangelo: I don't know why I like Daniel Jones, but I do. I think it took balls.51700:51:12.520 --> 00:51:14.600Mike Marcangelo: to bench Anthony Richardson.51800:51:14.930 --> 00:51:19.310Mike Marcangelo: And for it to be paying off right now, I'm really happy, but that still gave me the rents.51900:51:19.310 --> 00:51:25.109Rayshawn Buchanan: But he, he, he, meaning Anthony Richardson, lost a job when he subbed out of that game last year. He lost a job.52000:51:25.470 --> 00:51:27.520Rayshawn Buchanan: Lost a job, lost a team.52100:51:27.920 --> 00:51:29.979Rayshawn Buchanan: Probably lost the city, right?52200:51:30.140 --> 00:51:32.790Rayshawn Buchanan: That can't happen.52300:51:32.910 --> 00:51:52.119Rayshawn Buchanan: it just can't happen. Once again, I'm a Gator fan, you know, I thought that he was a good talent while he was there. So it's so fortunate to see his career take this type of path, even though it's self, self-imposed. But yeah, it's a cute story, what's happened there in Indianapolis, real cute, real, real cute.52400:51:52.820 --> 00:51:56.909Rayshawn Buchanan: It comes to a… it comes to a stop on Sunday.52500:51:57.680 --> 00:52:16.989Rayshawn Buchanan: Once again, Matt… once again, I… there's no bigger Matthewsapper supporter than the man you hear talking on 3D Airways right now. That… that dude is special, and he's been special his whole career. It just… it just took for y'all to see it on a national stage, to get these in. He's in a bigger market now. But LA, LA wins…52600:52:17.240 --> 00:52:20.810Rayshawn Buchanan: Not going away, but they'll win by a touchdown, I think.52700:52:21.920 --> 00:52:25.850Mike Marcangelo: Alright, so you're picking them outright and describing. Yeah.52800:52:26.300 --> 00:52:29.489Mike Marcangelo: The 2-1 Jaguars travel to the 3-0 San Francisco.52900:52:29.490 --> 00:52:30.460Rayshawn Buchanan: Don't you?53000:52:30.660 --> 00:52:38.649Mike Marcangelo: Travel to the 3-0 San Francisco 49ers. San Francisco's only favored by 2.5 points, which is fucking wild.53100:52:39.220 --> 00:52:40.360Mike Marcangelo: Listen, man.53200:52:40.740 --> 00:52:42.950Mike Marcangelo: I fucking hate the Jaguars.53300:52:43.870 --> 00:52:45.500Rayshawn Buchanan: I hate Trevor Lawrence.53400:52:46.630 --> 00:52:52.470Mike Marcangelo: I'd love Travis Hunter. I want him to be… I want him to be good, you know, great on both sides of the ball.53500:52:52.640 --> 00:52:53.370Rayshawn Buchanan: Mmm.53600:52:53.840 --> 00:53:01.930Mike Marcangelo: I don't… I don't… I don't see how the Jaguars won this game. Unless Mac Jones does what Mac Jones did here. But he hasn't yet. He hasn't.53700:53:01.930 --> 00:53:04.300Rayshawn Buchanan: It pisses me off.53800:53:04.990 --> 00:53:07.019Rayshawn Buchanan: That he's looked that good over there.53900:53:07.590 --> 00:53:08.080Mike Marcangelo: I know.54000:53:08.090 --> 00:53:14.759Rayshawn Buchanan: We initially think that Kyle Shanahan, you should have dropped his ass in 2021, and we didn't have to worry about it, we just got somebody else.54100:53:15.710 --> 00:53:17.390Mike Marcangelo: Everybody taking Trey Lance would have been great.54200:53:20.040 --> 00:53:25.519Rayshawn Buchanan: But we say that because of what he did it, but it might have been different here, you know what I'm saying? You don't know. We don't know.54300:53:25.520 --> 00:53:28.240Mike Marcangelo: Oh, with, oh, with Bill and not Patricia, he would have been different, you think?54400:53:28.240 --> 00:53:31.240Rayshawn Buchanan: Whoa, 2021, I'm saying? You're saying it's 2021. Josh?54500:53:31.240 --> 00:53:32.600Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, yeah, okay.54600:53:32.600 --> 00:53:42.449Rayshawn Buchanan: I mean, yeah, but obviously, yeah, that moved on, so he left to go to Oakland, Vegas or whatever, but, yeah, I, I…54700:53:43.770 --> 00:53:46.490Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm gonna still go with San Francisco, too.54800:53:46.490 --> 00:53:47.250Mike Marcangelo: 100%.54900:53:47.250 --> 00:53:52.780Rayshawn Buchanan: Doesn't matter who's the quarterback, I just can't believe that Matt Jones has looked that good, and back…55000:53:52.780 --> 00:54:02.919Mike Marcangelo: Without a full compliment, like, it's not like it's Ayuk, it's Devo, it's Kittle. It's literally none of those guys, and he still looks just as good.55100:54:03.710 --> 00:54:11.880Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, so… I had a really good rapport while he was here, so that's not a shocker. Yep. That was his guy, and still is his guy, clearly, but yeah.55200:54:12.300 --> 00:54:17.660Mike Marcangelo: Yep. Baltimore travels to Arrowhead, Kansas City.55300:54:18.930 --> 00:54:24.640Mike Marcangelo: I think Kansas City's offense is in real trouble. You know, news alert, on breaking news to you, but, like.55400:54:25.120 --> 00:54:37.440Mike Marcangelo: we saw… the one… I could compare this to, if you remember, like, 2012, Patriots, when we were… or 2013, one of those two years when it was Kendrell Tompkins and Aaron Dobson.55500:54:37.660 --> 00:54:40.679Mike Marcangelo: But, I mean, Brady still had, you know, I would say Edelman.55600:54:41.460 --> 00:54:42.620Rayshawn Buchanan: So I've grown, too.55700:54:42.970 --> 00:54:45.409Mike Marcangelo: Yeah, but he was hurt. He was really hurt in 2012.55800:54:45.520 --> 00:54:53.480Mike Marcangelo: Travis Kelsey, I would argue, has cost, the Chiefs two games so far this year.55900:54:54.800 --> 00:54:56.560Rayshawn Buchanan: I'm so broken up.56000:54:57.040 --> 00:54:59.580Mike Marcangelo: But… Bad… Listen.56100:55:01.290 --> 00:55:13.150Mike Marcangelo: this could be a fall like you've never seen before, the difference between Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, or if you just want to compare the New England Patriots and the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes, there was 10 years between Super Bowl victories, between his third and his fourth.56200:55:13.300 --> 00:55:14.290Mike Marcangelo: However.56300:55:14.400 --> 00:55:26.729Mike Marcangelo: We were in the playoffs, literally, literally all but one year, and that's because Brady wasn't there. He got hurt. And we were in the AFC title game, like, 7 times out of those 10 years.56400:55:26.950 --> 00:55:29.929Mike Marcangelo: So… Let's see if they're a dynasty.56500:55:29.930 --> 00:55:33.510Rayshawn Buchanan: I mean, he has conversations every year his career. It's wild.56600:55:33.510 --> 00:55:35.019Mike Marcangelo: Gimme the… give me the Ravens.56700:55:35.260 --> 00:55:39.120Mike Marcangelo: Lamar will do what Lamar does in the regular season, show up. Show up.56800:55:39.600 --> 00:55:44.610Rayshawn Buchanan: I want you to be right, because, like I said, they just had another,56900:55:44.800 --> 00:55:50.669Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, they folded again on Monday Night Football, but I feel like Detroit's had that number recently.57000:55:50.830 --> 00:55:54.880Rayshawn Buchanan: But that's turned into, like, a little mini rivalry there as well. Yeah.57100:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.090Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, but yeah, give me Baltimore as well.57200:55:59.750 --> 00:56:04.089Rayshawn Buchanan: I couldn't believe that Saquon Thornton actually looked decent there, to hear, like…57300:56:04.090 --> 00:56:06.040Mike Marcangelo: took him 4… I mean, took him 4 chances.57400:56:06.290 --> 00:56:15.239Rayshawn Buchanan: Sure, but everybody had 5 catches, 70 yards, which, once again, we would have loved that here. And actually, that's a good week for any receiver. Yeah. That's, you know, that's…57500:56:15.580 --> 00:56:20.740Rayshawn Buchanan: That's 90 catches, if you have 5 catches, a game.57600:56:20.740 --> 00:56:21.410Mike Marcangelo: Yeah.57700:56:21.760 --> 00:56:35.479Mike Marcangelo: I'm just really… I'm just really, happy to see that Juju looks like Juju did with us, so far. You know? There's gonna be… he's gonna have 3 games this season that are gonna piss me off completely, because he's gonna catch 7 balls for 80 yards and 2 touchdowns, and…57800:56:35.480 --> 00:56:40.540Rayshawn Buchanan: I want to bash my head through a wall, but… He even did that here when he didn't need to.57900:56:41.110 --> 00:56:41.710Mike Marcangelo: Right.58000:56:41.710 --> 00:56:46.949Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, 100%. Pittsburgh came in there, and I'm just like, I said, where's this guy been?58100:56:47.160 --> 00:56:47.760Mike Marcangelo: Yep.58200:56:48.120 --> 00:56:51.570Rayshawn Buchanan: I was like, oh, okay, great. Not great, but I'm like, okay, here you.58300:56:51.570 --> 00:56:55.719Mike Marcangelo: Also, the fact that the Ravens are favored going into Arrowhead, that's fucking wild.58400:56:56.250 --> 00:56:59.740Mike Marcangelo: Wild. That just shows you how down Vegas is on the Chiefs.58500:56:59.800 --> 00:57:01.259Rayshawn Buchanan: In the regular season, though?58600:57:02.480 --> 00:57:02.980Mike Marcangelo: Mmm.58700:57:02.980 --> 00:57:07.410Rayshawn Buchanan: So you talk about Lamar, being Lamar, like, in a regular season, that's not… that's not…58800:57:07.410 --> 00:57:10.569Mike Marcangelo: Has he beat… Has he beat Mahomes in the regular season?58900:57:13.350 --> 00:57:14.480Mike Marcangelo: I feel like he has.59000:57:15.270 --> 00:57:24.430Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, but it was, it was early on, I think. It was early on. It was early on. Once Mahomes got his superpowers, like, it was a rap for a little while.59100:57:25.300 --> 00:57:27.480Rayshawn Buchanan: Like, Alan ain't done nothing…59200:57:28.330 --> 00:57:32.149Rayshawn Buchanan: Lamar hasn't done anything. Like I said, Burrow's the only one that's coming in the house.59300:57:32.540 --> 00:57:34.100Rayshawn Buchanan: They kicked the speed up his head.59400:57:34.530 --> 00:57:35.320Mike Marcangelo: Multiple times.59500:57:35.520 --> 00:57:38.960Rayshawn Buchanan: It was like, alright, you know, I'm the guy. So.59600:57:38.960 --> 00:57:47.830Mike Marcangelo: Chicago, after a fucking, I mean, just an ass-whipping that they dealt Dallas, goes to Vegas,59700:57:47.830 --> 00:58:02.100Mike Marcangelo: I think this should be a continuation of what we saw on, on, you know, last week. I think Caleb looked really good. I mean, I… listen, I understand that Dallas' defense is probably one of the worst in league history. Dallas is the only team59800:58:02.110 --> 00:58:04.369Mike Marcangelo: Well, actually, no, sorry.59900:58:04.390 --> 00:58:12.320Mike Marcangelo: Dallas and, and… and the Ravens are the only two teams to score 30 points.60000:58:12.750 --> 00:58:14.960Mike Marcangelo: In 3 straight games, and have a losing record.60100:58:15.400 --> 00:58:16.030Rayshawn Buchanan: But…60200:58:16.980 --> 00:58:29.929Mike Marcangelo: That being said, I love what I saw from Caleb. I thought he was decisive, I thought he was quick. I love the fact that it looks like Roma Dumze is emerging as a number one wide receiver. I told y'all to watch out for Luther,60300:58:30.190 --> 00:58:36.250Mike Marcangelo: I just need, listen, I just need Ashton Genti and Brock Byers to have a hell of a game, but I'm picking Chicago.60400:58:36.980 --> 00:58:39.399Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, I'm rolling with the Bears, too.60500:58:39.800 --> 00:58:42.970Rayshawn Buchanan: Caleb finally looked like a… he looked like an NFL quarterback on Sunday.60600:58:43.230 --> 00:58:43.740Mike Marcangelo: Yep.60700:58:44.390 --> 00:58:49.850Rayshawn Buchanan: So, if they get more of that, then they'll be in business. So yeah, Chicago wins that one on Sunday.60800:58:50.280 --> 00:59:00.860Mike Marcangelo: Speaking of that terrible defense in Dallas, the Green Bay Packers travel to Dallas on Sunday Night Football. I think Jordan Love is going to60900:59:02.690 --> 00:59:06.759Mike Marcangelo: I think he's gonna dog walk the Dallas defense this entire… I mean, I think it's gonna be…61000:59:07.360 --> 00:59:24.519Mike Marcangelo: there's gonna be the overinflated take after about, like, how elite he is. Remember, it's the Dallas defense. I could envision a stat line of something along the lines of 25 of 32, 320 yards, 4 touchdowns, no picks, from Jordan Love.61100:59:24.520 --> 00:59:29.219Rayshawn Buchanan: I would love that, and I hope that my car gets 3 sacks.61200:59:30.610 --> 00:59:32.840Mike Marcangelo: Oh, oh my god, it's 5 sacks.61300:59:32.840 --> 00:59:34.469Rayshawn Buchanan: Yeah, you know, maybe even better.61400:59:34.470 --> 00:59:36.170Mike Marcangelo: Salutes Jerry every single time.61500:59:36.170 --> 00:59:38.899Rayshawn Buchanan: Right, correct. Correct. Yep.61600:59:38.900 --> 00:59:39.740Mike Marcangelo: I'm here for that.61700:59:39.740 --> 00:59:42.729Rayshawn Buchanan: There's like a podcast type of celebration.61800:59:42.730 --> 00:59:55.099Mike Marcangelo: Oh, here for that. Doubleheader on Monday. So the Jets go to the Dolphins at 7.15, that'll be… I mean, I'm sure people will really tune in for that. I mean, everyone watches the NFL, so it doesn't matter.61900:59:56.100 --> 01:00:01.489Mike Marcangelo: God, Justin Fields, if he plays, give me the Jets. If he doesn't, give me the Dolphins.62001:00:06.730 --> 01:00:17.510Rayshawn Buchanan: Ugh, I laugh, because once again, once again, it's better to be right early than to catch on later. You know, you taught me that well, my friend.62101:00:19.390 --> 01:00:38.779Rayshawn Buchanan: But I told you guys. I told y'all… it was only a matter of time. It's only a matter of time before the dolphins that some of y'all come to know and love was going to implode, and now you're seeing it in front of your eyes. You're seeing it happen.62201:00:38.920 --> 01:00:41.910Rayshawn Buchanan: They're not a good team. They're just not. No.62301:00:41.910 --> 01:00:42.660Mike Marcangelo: The wheels are off.62401:00:42.660 --> 01:01:02.490Rayshawn Buchanan: And, yeah, the wheels are off, the, you know, once again, more people are probably interested in going to the Sonic across the street from the stadium, or going to the Cigar Lounge, or going to average. You name it, yeah, shirt club, right, you name it, right? Shout out to G5. But it's just like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's wild. But needless to say, listen,62501:01:02.710 --> 01:01:12.429Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, the Jets are gonna come in there and win on Monday night. it's funny, because these two teams had one of the best Monday night games of all time, many years ago.62601:01:12.430 --> 01:01:12.800Mike Marcangelo: Yep.62701:01:12.800 --> 01:01:25.929Rayshawn Buchanan: you know, with Linda Mario, I think, hit the game winner many years ago. Shelter Jumbo Elliott, too. That's a name drop there. But yeah, I mean, it won't be that. It won't be 40-37 like that game was. But, you know, I got the Jets winning that one.62801:01:27.020 --> 01:01:42.339Mike Marcangelo: 2-0-3 teams, again. Oh, God. And then, let's close out, week four. We have the Cincinnati Bengals traveling to Denver. That's on… that's on ABC, 815. Denver is favored by 7.5 points. Feels like they're not giving Browning much credit. Give me.62901:01:42.340 --> 01:01:43.160Rayshawn Buchanan: this Sunday.63001:01:44.030 --> 01:01:44.620Rayshawn Buchanan: Wasn't gonna say?63101:01:44.620 --> 01:01:45.269Mike Marcangelo: I mean…63201:01:45.270 --> 01:01:48.860Rayshawn Buchanan: I believe it. He went until Sunday. So, he's had some good moments, but he.63301:01:48.860 --> 01:01:49.790Mike Marcangelo: Give me the Bengals.63401:01:52.370 --> 01:01:55.209Rayshawn Buchanan: out there in Denver, I don't know, I think…63501:01:56.340 --> 01:02:11.329Rayshawn Buchanan: Seven and a half feels like a lot, because Denver's not… they're not a powerhouse team, but at Mile High, or whatever it's called now, but it's always gonna be Mile High, excuse me, to me.63601:02:12.060 --> 01:02:19.759Rayshawn Buchanan: They, they probably win by 3 or 4. They win by 3 or 4. But 7, 7 is a lot, touchdown is a lot, but they, they…63701:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.029Mike Marcangelo: Seven and a half, so more than a touchdown is what they're saying.63801:02:22.030 --> 01:02:23.180Rayshawn Buchanan: So,63901:02:23.180 --> 01:02:32.929Mike Marcangelo: It's wild, because the Bengals are 2-1, the Broncos are 1-2, and they're getting… they're getting absolutely no… no, no respect, which is why I'm gonna pick the Bengals.64001:02:33.370 --> 01:02:48.719Mike Marcangelo: But I think it should be… listen, it should be a very entertaining week for the NFL. Hopefully, we come back to talk about the Patriots beating the shit out of the Carolina Panthers, and having a great first home win of the season. I don't think that's gonna happen, but…64101:02:49.190 --> 01:03:01.249Mike Marcangelo: You know, obviously stay tuned to the Power Ranking Show later this week. The Real BK is gonna release his power rankings, and I just can't wait to see, how DK tries to get the Bears in the top 10. But until then.64201:03:01.360 --> 01:03:08.309Mike Marcangelo: For Rayshawn Buchanan, this is Michael Marc Angelo saying thank you so much for listening to MTP Boston on the Radcast Network. We'll talk to you later.