March 23, 2021

Pro Football Focus's Anthony Treash on the New England Patriots Offseason and NFL Draft Needs


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On this Episode of Missing the Point, we are joined by Pro Football Focus's College Senior College Football Analyst, Anthony Treash as we recap the New England Patriots Free Agency Period to this point of the offseason.

To Anthony, while on the surface, it may appear that the Patriots look better than last years team, they have not really improved that much, and may have actually have gotten worse, especially if Cam Newton is still at quarterback in 2021.

Anthony also breaks down which quarterback he could see the Patriots taking in the 2021 NFL Draft.

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Transcript

Craig D'Alessandro:

Today On Missing the Point we're joined by pro football focuses college football analyst Anthony Treash to break down the Patriots move so far in free agency and why he thinks while the Patriots have had a major impactful offseason so far, that doesn't necessarily mean that the Patriots will be better in the 2021 NFL season, as long as the quarterback position remains unchanged. This is obviously the point Episode 46. But it's all relative.

Joe Malkin:

Welcome into missing the point and we are here today for an interview with pro football focus senior college analyst, Anthony Treash, the 2019 graduate of one of my favorite named colleges in the country, Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis I up if you will, with a degree in sports management. Anthony's been with pff in some capacity since 2018, first as a football analyst before being hired full time in June 2019 as a graphics coordinator, and then in his present role as senior college analyst in December of 2019. Treash has also worked for the Indiana Pacers the Indianapolis Colts and the Cincinnati Reds and a number of different capacities. Most notably as a gameday stats intern for the Colts, you can find him on twitter @pff_Anthony, and Anthony, one thing I found interesting was right on Pff, your bio is Treash join pff full time in June of 2019, after being poached out of grad school by the company. He primarily works as a college football analyst, but still dabbles in the NFL, which that last line is great for us. But what were you studying that they were able to so easily poach you out?

Anthony Treash:

Yeah, it was data science with a specialization in sports analytics. I got like, I think through a third of my degree, so I go back whenever I want and finish up the rest of the two thirds. But then I had a decision to make whether I keep going or work with Pff, because there's no way I could have done both because that degree is an absolute brutal one to pursue. And so then I made the easier decision to come here to Cincinnati work for pff. And I'm glad I did it because it's it I couldn't ask for a better opportunity.

Joe Malkin:

Are you from that area?

Anthony Treash:

close to it at southeastern Indiana? Oh, cool.

Joe Malkin:

Okay, that that explains why you've worked with the Colts and the Pacers in the reds. When I read that you worked for the Colts as a gameday stats intern that kind of I nerd it out. I'm a sports information director myself. So that was right up my alley. So let's get right into it though, because we're all kind of New England Patriots fans, and based up here in New England, and you've had a lot of things to say about the New England Patriots along with the other 31 NFL teams as we get closer to the draft and further into free agency. And in your article that outlines the needs for all 32 teams in the NFL, you wrote to the Patriots are in need of a quarterback wide receiver and defensive back and we couldn't agree more. But it's never you wrote It's never good. When a team's three biggest needs are the three most valuable positions on the field, the quarterback situation is really contingent on whether the Patriots straightaway starts to find Gilmore. To that end. What do you think the Patriots can do in order to upgrade at those three positions, whether it's through the draft or free agency?

Anthony Treash:

Yeah, I mean, had you asked me you know, about a month ago, I just said it would probably be in their best interest to go ahead and liquidate whatever assets they have, and kind of sit out this free agency period go into it and interact pretty quietly and prepare to just kind of rebuild this season and prepare for the 2022 NFL Draft because there is a very good quarterback in that class and Spencer Radler of Oklahoma that I think is going to be an incredible NFL quarterback that he is worth kind of throwing in the towel for but they obviously did not do that with their big spending and free agency. So now they're kind of in a rough spot because I think there's going to be a lot of teams in this upcoming draft you know, trying you're calling up Miami who sits with the number three overall pick and possibly even Atlanta at number four because the way they restructured Matt Ryan's contract makes us lead to believe that they're not going to be taking a quarterback in the first round of the 2021 NFL Draft so I think they're going to be among those teams and the several of them I would expect probably six or seven trying to trade up to one of the spots to secure Justin fields and I really do think with what they've already done that they should go all in on giving up whatever they can to get Justin fields in that number three overall pick and it's going to take a lot for them to do since they sit back at number 15 but just the way they've kind of constructed the roster if they don't get a quarterback in this upcoming class one of the top ones that is in a lot of people there's debate about Zack Wilson and Justin fields in any other given class. Well, there's not a Trevor Lawrence prospect, those guys are number one overall picks. I mean, this is just an incredibly talented quarterback class, and I expect them to go in the top four, you know, in the first four picks, and I think Mack Jones is probably going to be up there too at number eight, but you know, I don't think they can ride into the season with Cam Newton just because in that case, they're going to finish you know, close to 500. And since they're adding the 17th game in there, I think that would be the seven and 10 eight nine type of team and that's not good. Gonna get you very far in the way the roster is constructed. I think they're set up to do that for the next few years. And I think that'd be entering kind of quarterback purgatory, just because, you know, the Patriot way is to be as competitive as possible. Well, as we've seen over the last few years with my the Miami Dolphins, you know, the Cleveland Browns that you need to have a proper rebuild, you know, you're not going to be like the Dallas Cowboys and get lucky Atlanta Dak Prescott and day three, you're not going to, you know, be lucky team like the Kansas City Chiefs who wins Patrick mahomes. I said, the top 10 who decided to trade out from the back end of the first round. And so, you know, I think priority number one is to trade up for a quarterback. But, you know, if they're still sitting there at number 15, considering everything that's going to happen, I think they might as well just go ahead and take a wide receiver, you know, he can attack you know, what's there the best position that's available? And I think there's going to be a pretty good wide receiver there for the taking.

Joe Malkin:

devonta Smith,

Anthony Treash:

potentially. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people, you know, he's one of the more interesting ones, you know, him and Matt Jones a to Alabama guys. I'm not, it's hard to gauge where they're going to end up just because they both kind of have their own concerns. You know, obviously with devonta Smith, it's his frame in, you know, we've never really seen a guy, his baby Nikkei just came out that he's 170 pounds right now, we've never seen a guy, you know, with his stature really have great success at the NFL level. But at the same time, we've never seen a prospect coming out like devonta Smith at that size that is as complete as he is. I mean, really, that's the only knock you could really have on him. He does everything else at that position at an extremely high level. I mean, then with Mack Jones, too. It's because he had a guy like the Atlanta Smith and you know, Steve Sarkeesian was a great play caller, everything was schemed up for him open receivers left and right. And I just don't think that's as you know, I don't think his whole success was because of that. I mean, you look at the guy that had you know, pristine timing, he was incredibly accurate. The blog, great decision making the processing speed was there, I think he is a top 10 quarterback, but you know, those two prospects in particular, it's hard to gauge where they are, I think Matt Jones will end up the top 10 pick, but devonta Smith, as the days get closer to the NFL Draft, I'm starting to think that he might slide out of the top 10 he might just be there at 15. But if I had to put my money on it, I would say he's probably going to get taken a few picks before that.

Michael Marcangelo:

So with what you just said, like if Smith does fall out of the top 10. Right, and he's and he is there at 15? Do you still kind of sell the house or sell the farm to go get Justin fields at three? If you can, like what do you think it would take to get him? So it's actually a three part question. I apologize for this. What like what would it take to get him? Our team scared of you know, betting it off for a quarterback from Ohio State? Because there has not been a really good NFL quarterback from Ohio State in quite a long time? Or do you just hope that Smith false?

Anthony Treash:

Yeah, I mean, I think you definitely give up whatever you can. And I think there's going to be a pretty big bidding war for those picks. So I think it's going to take, you know, multiple first rounders to get the job done, for sure. Especially for newing once in back there at 15. And, you know, it seemed like Miami, you know, I think they would be willing to sit back at 15 just because there are they are in an incredible position. I mean, this is an exact reason why you need to kind of, you know, quote unquote, tank and really kind of give up everything just to get all these assets because that's exactly what they did. And they're sitting in an incredibly good spot right now. I mean, they have a couple first rounders. I mean, the shout out to Bill O'Brien there he should have been a job in the front office for the job he did for that team. You know, I think they need to do whatever they can to get a guy like Justin fields and even though you compare him to pass like a lot of state quarterbacks and like him and Dwayne Haskins are just so drastically different and he can see it in the pff grades. And you know, granted you know, Justin fields he's had more open those created than any other quarterback in this class even more than Mack Jones you know, he's his tight window passing rate is minimal, but you know, you look at everything he has, the physical tools are off the charts, you know, Dwayne Haskins didn't really have that. I mean, this is the kind of guy that's gonna that could run in the four fours, sort of a four yard dash goes, you know, his arm strength, the accuracy, the decision makings there and if anyone wants to have any knock on him, it's just sometimes you know, those coverage rotations, they got some a few different times we saw some growth. But you go back to that 2019 Sim, CFP semifinal game against Clemson the Tigers that mean that got him and then you saw the Blitz recognition sometimes it gets Northwestern Indiana this past season Ben Hill will under the ball sometimes a little bit too long. But that's something that can get coached out of him I think there's no doubt he may not you know come in lighted up right away but give them a few weeks with the right you know coaching and supporting cast I think he's going to be a star at the next level in Yeah, I don't think they should really kind of look back compared to other past quarterbacks because I think Justin feels just a little bit different so I definitely think he's a guy that's worth you know trading a lot up for.

Joe Malkin:

That was one one knock on Tom Brady way back when was that he held on to the ball too quick, too long, but the coach that out of them. So when you mentioned and to harp on this subject for another second trading with Miami might be something that they're open to one you say they they could be comfortable sitting at 15 but Brian Flores and Bill Belichick having a good relationship between them. You know, belcheck has it's been flowing put it out there that that belcheck is willing to trade. Maciel, Harry, he's willing to trade Stephon Gilmore, Stephon Gilmore could be a tough one because there's rumors that he could hold out if he doesn't get a new contract going into the final year of his contract. So it could have to be a sign and trade thing, along with the number 15. Looking at cam Newton's contract, even though they paid him $1 million last year, he's really not geared up to be the starter at 6 million and I agree with you that they have to be aggressive and go get something would Gilmore, Perry, and two first round picks be enough to get three from Miami for Justin fields?

Anthony Treash:

I don't think so. I mean, looking at, you know, what Miami wants? I would think that it's just solely draft capital, just because their team's pretty complete right now. You know, I think their biggest weakness right now is their offensive line. I mean, it's an incredibly bad spot. That's not something really new england can offer unless they're, you know, willing to part ways with Mike Huawei new, but also at the same time, I don't think from their perspective, they think it's an issue but it really is an issue. I mean, they just got rid of take her off. And now they have mascara there who's not very good center. And you look at their tackle situation, it's just really not all that great all around, but I'm not so sure they actually recognize that, you know, we look at their secondary to I mean, they're sitting pretty good there with zoom you in our environment, Jones, I mean, we're talking about one of the best outside cornerback duo's in the entire NFL. And I'm really excited to see if they can kind of reclaim that standout play from Justin Coleman in the slot that we saw back in 2017 and 2018. With Seattle after those rough years in Detroit under Matt Patricia. So I think it would be more of you know, I think Dwayne knew possibly would be in that kind of package. But I think it would be more about the draft capital. And I think Miami would be willing to kind of, you know, try and flip that draft capital for other players down the road that ever, you know, might pop up. Well, we

Joe Malkin:

know that Bill Belichick is known for avoiding first round picks like the plague, but something else that you wrote just switching gears here a little bit, the overspending of the Patriots, which this is record spending. And one guy that came in here on on day one of tampering was Nelson Aguilar. And this is obviously a very big need for the New England Patriots. We were hoping they would go out and get a guy like Juju Smith Schuster or Corey Davis, who both are now going to be paid less by New York and respectively. The Patriots are going to pay Aguilar Of course his cap hit is lower, but his salary is still pretty high. You wrote that agler is being paid under the assumption that he'll replicate his 2020 production and then so 48 receptions 896 yards in a career time, a career high time eight touchdowns. One thing you wrote here was something that Mike and I were pretty concerned about was his drop rate. He was targeted at six times and only caught 48 balls. I mean, it's a 50 50% conversion rate on catches what Aguilar included who were the guys that were overrated for you that the Patriots brought in?

Anthony Treash:

Yeah, I mean, I want to say probably like everybody I think I'm the one that might live up to the hype is hunter Henry, but then you're really kind of banking on him reclaiming the play that we saw from him as a rookie and his second year in the NFL back in 2016 and 2017 I mean, he was exceptional those two years Greg second behind or third actually behind Rob gronkowski and Travis Kelsey and receiving grade this two years within the injury starting to bite and ever since you know those kind of became an issue when he's on the field he just really has not been the same player he's kind of been a fringe top 10 receiver at best and now he's getting paid you know tied with Jonnu Smith who they just signed on to third highest on an average basis here so if he can reclaim that play which is a strong possibility I you know, I'm a big fan of hunter Henry then that contract makes sense but that is still a big risk there. I just can't see any of the other guys they paid like you seven Nelson Aguilar they're kind of paying him this under the assumption that he can you know, reclaim the play that he had this past season as far as you know, the boom or bust nature he he created a lot of big plays, but it was just really inconsistent. And even then he still being overpaid. I mean, you look at his five years prior to last season in Las Vegas, he was a second lowest graded receiver in the entire NFL and you compare his contract to a guy like Corey Davis even though Corey Davis is getting a lot more guaranteed money I mean they obviously weren't afraid to hidden handout guaranteed money just kind of makes me question Why did they not just give that to Corey Davis. I mean if it was a thing about Corey Davis not coming in with New England Why did they just keep offering more because obviously the market for him wasn't just that strong suit with Jalen Mills. I mean he's a you know a versatile guy but it's one thing you know being versatile and having experience playing all these different positions but actually being good at them. He just really has not been good at it. You know in the secondary into I mentioned with Jonnu Smith you know he's a good after the cat tidy and one of the better after the catch Titans in the entire league but he's just not worth the money that he got. You know that 12 and a half million on an average basis. There is just not that much you could pair as pf for two other guys and is receiving great it just really does not match. You know that type of pay. And it was just kind of the theme to with Matthew Judon on that was another one Maybe we saw it was it's very interesting. So I mean, I think we're we kind of are going through a little bit of a revolution in the NFL as far as running backs. And I think, you know, obviously some teams are still kind of catching up to that, like we just saw with the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Jones there, they are firmly in the belief that he matters to the offense, and he is the engine of the offense, we can't win without any type of deal. But you have a lot of teams that are starting to catch up thinking we don't have to pay up this kind of money for running back in I think we're gonna get there with edge defenders as far as sack production kind of goes and a lot of teams just look at that sack total. And they just like, oh, wow, look at all those sacks and those hits. I mean, that's what they're going to bring, it's going to automatically translate from this scheme to the RF scheme. But that's really not the case. And you know, the Patriots, Matthew, Judon on the Tennessee Titans have pledged to pre you know, Trey Hendrickson, going to Cincinnati, I think these are the type of examples where we're going to look at it and say, you know, this is really not you know, he didn't live up to the hype. This was kind of a bus signing a waste of money, because you look at all the production he had, were pretty much you can think, you know, week Martin down all those blitzes that they dialed up there, a lot of those were unblocked cleanup pressures, attacks and hits that he racked up. He just really did not win on a consistent basis, one on ones. And that's what he's going to have to do in New England because New England's you know, Blitz instant rate is drastically declined over the years, we'll see if they actually end up picking that back up. But I don't think it you know, it's going to change anything up to the speed that you know, Baltimore did. And I think with budget pre two, I mean, that's what's going to happen with, you know, going from Pittsburgh, down to Tennessee. And then with Trey Hendrickson. He's an interesting case, because I've just never seen somebody just walk into so many sacks in my life. I mean, he had 11, cleanup or unblock sacks last season. And a lot of times he was just engaged in the quarterback was just right there too. And all he had to do was just fall over on it. I mean, it was just incredible that it they just kind of fell in his lap, and they paid him four years over 60 million for it, you know, so I don't you know, I wouldn't just completely blame New England, it's still an issue across the league. But that was just another signing of the many that I was not a fan of.

Michael Marcangelo:

I'm with you there on the dude on I we were saying last week, I said, This reminds me way too much of a dailies, Thomas. And that was a bust. And I think Bill has he has for what, what you mentioned people have their perceptions of running backs. He loves those outside pass rushers, I can come in, but it never works. And it just it's very rarely worked here. But one thing you wrote, and I love it, because I'm always the antagonists. I'm a patriot fan, but I kind of like, you know, shitting on them a little bit. You said it was several head scratching things done by patriots free agency? Was it head scratching, because it was like it was dumb. Do you think? Do you think they overpaid? Or because it was so unpatriotic? like to spend the way that they did?

Anthony Treash:

Yeah, I would say it's both. And you know, I think my big takeaway from it is that I think, you know, there were some people saying this was a plane all along, but it's been big last year, because they're waiting for this year type of thing. But I honestly think it was because Bill Belichick saw what his team was this past season. And then you looked at what Tom Brady did? And you know, we'll never know the answer to this. But I do think that he's kind of getting, you know, answer. He's like, I know, I could win, I just need the right players to do it. And, you know, he's just like, let's spin bag. And you know, I thought he, you know, an interesting quote from Robert Kraft, I think it was today that dropped, saying, you know, typically in free agency, you have 10 to 12 teams interested in some of these guys, but they're only two to three. And then you look at the contracts they handed out. And it's just that kind of adds fuel to the fire there. It's just kind of, it makes it even more head scratching. So, you know, I wasn't expecting them to come out and kind of spend this big, I expected them to try and fill the winning roster for next season as much as it's not going to happen with the quarterback situation. So I mean, it's just, they're kind of in a rough spot here. And I think it's going to end badly over the next few years. I mean, we looked at what, you know, the Raiders, you know, this offseason, you know, they had a bunch of big cuts in the party with a bunch of guys who they paid big money to a few years ago. I think once 2023 rolls around, we're going to be looking at this free agency class of New England's after a couple, like I said, you know, close to 500, South 500 years from them and say, yeah, that was a bad decision. I mean, that's kind of what happened with the Raiders.

Craig D'Alessandro:

So if so, if they get better quarterback play out of cam, but it doesn't sound like you're you're high on cam, I'm not either. But I think those dead set on winning with cam to prove that it's the system and the franchise and not the quarterback. But let's say they go out and they either draft with a really good quarterback or they figure out a trade and they get a really good quarterback in here. Do you still feel like in 2023 we'll still be looking back at this free agent class setting said that it was bad.

Anthony Treash:

Yeah, I think we will, you know, if, hypothetically speaking, if they do get a good quarterback, what they do get adjusted field day, you know, I don't think just with the way the roster is constructed right now, I think it's going to be very hard to kind of, you know, immediately produce great results. So I think, you know, it would be in their best interest to you know, get a guy like Justin fields, I think long term within five years. I think it could pay big dividends. But in the short term, I still don't think it would be a good situation with Cam Newton. You know, I think it's there's kind of been a match Right here, but a lot of people are betting against can just because back in you know, in that MVP season and that Super Bowl run, you know, he I mean he performed exceptionally well but that year kind of was an outlier he just in the injuries has just been so bad over the year that is accurate downfield accuracy is just it's a one of the worst in the NFL, he really cannot throw the ball downfield on a consistent basis. I mean, you had guys like Philip Rivers who in Drew Brees who are rubber bands for an arm, you know, completing more passes downfield and Cam Newton could you know, he does add value with with his legs, but not to the extent that he did and even then, you know, not having meaning to have a potent pass attack, not a good rushing attack. That I mean, that's what leads to NFL success. And so it's not me just like personally hating on cam and I don't think that's a you know, league wide thing where people just don't like Cam Newton, just because he's a unique personality. I love his personality. I wish I wish he was good. I really hope he does kind of prove me wrong, but I just have not seen any reason to believe that you will.

Joe Malkin:

So sticking with the college theme, and of course, this will all come back to cam and a lot of ways because like Mike, I don't believe that he will be able to up his play just because of the injuries. And I don't think he's just the quarterback that New England is actually thinking they need but addressing the two other positions that you mentioned in your article that the Patriots need is cornerback. And then this morning, I saw that you retweeted pff tweet about the underrated players in the draft this year. And I really liked this one that yours was cornerback out of Washington, Elijah molden, who's 510 190 he's projected as a third round projection, pretty good numbers, especially in 20 1920 2020. He only played in four games. But in 2019, he played in 13 games, had four interceptions, really jumped onto the scene for the Huskies. The Patriots have the 96th overall pick in the third round, if you're sitting in the war room with Bill Belichick and Elijah molden is still there. Are you drafting him in New England?

Anthony Treash:

Yeah, I mean, it's really not. I mean, he's he's going to be exclusively a slot corner at the next level. You know, Washington Tried him out of safety and his final your game, it went okay, but I think he's going to be pigeonholed to the slot. But that's not a bad thing at all whatsoever, because the slot defending the slot is extremely hard. And slot corners are the most undervalued players on the entire game. And we were seeing that this offseason to some of the contracts in and out like with Troy Hill going to Cleveland on a very cheap deal. Mike Hilton in Cincinnati doesn't come to Houston. I mean, they they're getting incredibly underpaid, but yet they're generating the same amount of value. As you know, typical outside corners with the exception of gyre Alexander's the Jalen Ramsey's of the world, those elite guys, I mean, they're still generating a lot of value. And I think Elijah molden has an incredibly high floor. I think he's going to be a come into the league right away and be one of the best slot corners because he has what it takes to be in the slot. I mean, he is an incredibly instinctive player. He is great Shorey quickness, one of the best tacklers, physical tackler and he can cover all that space that slot corners are tasked with and I think, you know, teams are gonna overlook them for that, but I think he's gonna come in, he's gonna line up right away. And I think in the NFL Draft, you typically need to draft for value freedom sees attacking need, the draft is for value with exception there are, you know, different different types of scenarios that pop up where if you need one position, and they're kind of close to the same value kind of lean that direction if it's going to help you in the short term playing within that case that late in the draft 100% because I think he's going to pay, you know, exceed that value SOP for sure.

Michael Marcangelo:

So, back in February, when you were doing your mock draft, you had Rashard Rashad Bateman being selected by the Patriots. I've been looking a lot at him. Do you think that this still makes sense, given what they need as far as a quarterback? And the how they've kind of addressed their wide receiver a situation? Would you if he was there? Would you still take him if you're belcheck? Yeah, I

Anthony Treash:

mean, I think obviously the best case scenario would be trading up for a quarterback but you know, Rashad Bateman is an interesting one, just because I think you know, it come April, I think he's going to be an end of the first round type of pick, but I think he should be, you know, 15th overall pick to New England. You know, there are some concerns maybe about his athleticism, it's not the best. We saw the same thing with Tyler Johnson last year, another Minnesota receiver, but I mean, he's just an exceptional route runner, and he's great, great release package too. I think he's going to handle press coverage relatively easy at the next level, and I think it's worthy of taking and 15th overall if I were in the shoes of Bill Belichick, but I mean knowing how things are probably going to shake out that'd be a situation where I would maybe try and trade back and if for some reason you'd miss out on a guy like that there are other options in the back end of that first round that are very attractive to especially at the wide receiver position. I mean you have you know canaries Tony rondelle more some of these after the catch nightmares right there for defenses on into a larger more another gray slot receiver so i think you know, we're still on Bateman's worthy of going 15th overall I don't think he will. I think he's probably going to be a candidate to be in the first round but assuming they don't trade up for a quarterback in our in the shoes. I think that would be you know Someone who would be willing to take care.

Joe Malkin:

Well, there's three options Anthony for Bill Belichick in the New England Patriots, they're either going to surprise us all trade up to that number three pick or maybe nine with Denver, which has also been floated out there. But I don't know what those six spots will get you or he'll go back in the round, or he'll trade out of the first round completely a New England Patriots fans will have to shut off their TVs a little bit earlier on night one of the draft than we normally do. So my final question for you is if you're looking at the Patriots, from your perspective, what you've done with the mock drafts and you've kind of answered this already, but I just want to hear it from you at the end of the interview. What is your prediction for a New England Patriots record and finish in the AFC East in 2021? You can be rough on us we're all right. Yeah.

Anthony Treash:

Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with so we're gonna have a 17 game season I'm probably gonna say five and 12 or six and 11 and I think they may finish they're going to be close with a judge for last place in the Division I think Miami's I'm still a little concerned with two I think he's going to end up being the guy who just wasn't as good as I hoped in that first year but still that Miami rosters I mean absolutely loaded from top to bottom outside of the offensive line into with buffalo they're taking strides Josh Allen proved this all wrong. I think he's going to regress a little bit but I still think they're going to have a very good team. And with New York I think it's pretty good. I mean they hit a home run in free agency. I mean, they I mean Cleveland just absolutely lit it up. I mean they made improvements all over the place. They still have room to improve especially at cornerback I think depending on what the Jets have at cornerback in is assuming Zach Wilson is the starter basic take them second overall and he starts right at the get go I think they have a chance to kind of beat up New England I think there is a real real possibility that they finish Gordon.

Michael Marcangelo:

So you think that dollar expense 200 million and has a worst record? I was gonna ask you a question after that. I don't need to. That's the perfect way to end this. I love that. I absolutely love that. You know,

Joe Malkin:

we're sensible New England fans. I don't know how often you deal with New England fans on Twitter or elsewhere but we're the sensible ones that that like to look at this you know glass half full but it can always empty out pretty quick like it did this year. That's what happens when you lose the best quarterback in the history of the NFL. So Anthony trash we appreciate you joining us here on missing the point today. We don't want to take up too much more of your time but we appreciate you making every New England fan dislike you before they even just give you a Colts fan. Is that are you a Bengals fan?

Anthony Treash:

Now I'm not really a fan of anything. I grew up a Bears fan but my fan and kind of been lost. I mean, just a fan of the league overall.

Joe Malkin:

One of the other members of our show David is a large while huge Bears fan. He's not large. It's actually the smallest of all of us. But he's a big Bears fan and almost lost his stuff when they signed Andy Dalton the other day.

Anthony Treash:

Yeah, it could be worse for patriots fans. I mean, he could be in the shape Chicago's and it's I would say

Joe Malkin:

that's the fair enough. Well, Anthony Treash of pff pro football focus senior college analyst. Find him on twitter @pff_Anthony, thank you so much for coming on today. And we appreciate it.

Anthony Treash:

Of course. Thanks for having me

Joe Malkin:

on, guys. Thanks, Anthony. Thanks a lot.

Anthony Treash

Senior College Football Analyst

Treash joined PFF full-time back in June of 2019 after being poached out of grad school by the company. He primarily works as a college football analyst but still dabbles in the NFL.