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Sept. 22, 2022

Recapping an EVEN WILDER Week 2 in the NFL!

Recapping an EVEN WILDER Week 2 in the NFL!

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And we thought Week 1 was CRAZY!

The Cowboys beat the Bengals, The Bills absolutely destroy the Titans, while Jalen Hurts and the Eagles proved that the Viking's win over the Packers was a fluke.

Tua Throws for 6 TOUCHDOWNS as the Dolphins take down the Baltimore Ravens in an absolute shootout, and are the Broncos having buyer's remorse with Russell Wilson?

  • What was your biggest takeaway from Week 2?  0:06
  • Miami Dolphins vs. Baltimore Ravens. 5:30
  • The Raiders are not a good sign for a football team. 9:37
  • What’s going to happen with the 49ers? 15:19
  • Jason Garrett never won the Cowboys a game. 25:13
  • Lions vs Jaguars in the top 10. 30:07
  • The Green Bay Packers are better than the New York Giants. 35:41
  • Miami Dolphins in the Power Rankings. 41:05
  • The Rams are still the defending Super Bowl champions. 47:26
  • Philadelphia Eagles are number three in the power rankings 53:57
  • Would you pick Josh Allen over Patrick Mahomes? 1:01:47

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Michael Marcangelo:

Welcome to missing the point. This is Michael Mark Angelo along with the real BK Bob Kelly. And this week we're talking about what was, I guess a wild wild week to in the NFL? We'll go through the Power Rankings I'll probably roast him a little bit on who's on there and why some other teams should be on there but I mean, Bobby week two men what was what was your biggest takeaway from Week Two

Rob Kelly:

bro there's there's just so much that happened. But I think the biggest thing that I took away with it, which I think is a great place that we can start for jumping to Power Rankings is the goddamn Miami Dolphins man. They look like an offense that rivals the Chiefs at this point like the chiefs in their heyday just just with the speed that they have on the outside I don't think I've ever seen two wide receivers like Watto and hill just just absolutely burned people left and right like they were like that that might be the fastest wide receiver core I've ever seen in my life. That was that was an unbelievable 15 minutes of football. It was it was insane.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, you know how much I truly hate doing this. But I told you so. Ray, I'm talking to you like I told you now it's only week two. But the thing that jumps out the most to me about the Miami Dolphins is it allows to uh, to be the quarterback that he is it doesn't ask Morton. He now has playmakers that don't need. It doesn't need to throw a 50 yard ball. If he doesn't have to. You just need to throw a 10 yard ball and Tyree kill will do the rest of the work. And like to your point Jaylen while loving catches 171 Tyree kill 11 catches 190 That is absurd.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah. I think when people coming into the season I think a lot of people just underestimated how good Jaylen model actually is. You know what I mean? Like Like, they're like, oh, Tyreke hills. Awesome. They're added him to like a pretty good offense. But listen. Jaylen Watteau was unbelievable. And his rookie year and the things that we've seen him do over the past verse two weeks, I guess the passing week one and the last week, wrote it, it's gotten to the point where like, you write to a doesn't have to do things, but when he does, I'll tell you what, to have a lot easier to do him when the guy's running wide open downfield, you know, when the guys run him by himself 55 yards downfield to hell of a lot easier to make that throw. And that's what was happening all day long. It was unbelievable. And what

Michael Marcangelo:

I was what's what's the craziest part about this is this was against the Ravens. Like this is a well coached, often top ranked defense, and they were down 21 points and they came roaring back to complete the comeback. And it wasn't like, you know, I mean, to uh, I just 30 days it was 3550 for like 470 yards and 662 picks, and not for nothing but Lamar who I've always been a critic of 21 of 2029 for 318 and three touchdowns.

Rob Kelly:

A perfect perfect passer rating well 42.6 Like

Michael Marcangelo:

that is a I thought that that was 133 points something

Rob Kelly:

Oh, I think you're right it's like I just made that up it was it was perfect. It was perfect at one point through the game is I saw I saw it and like knew that he was perfect the one point to the game was like ya know, that must be perfect.

Michael Marcangelo:

No matter what he finishes with. It's perfect.

Rob Kelly:

Know what, what's what's great. So the Lamar says i i don't see this as that much of a of a blemish on Baltimore as a lot of people do. I think I think that was like a big conversation that we've been having. Unlike guys. I'm sorry. But like when you are already on a backup defense and you have to be running around trying to chase Tyreke Hill and Jaylen Watteau all goddamn day. Guess what, by the fourth quarter, you're gonna be toast just done, man just done and it was so obvious I've that. I'm Lamar, man. It was. It was unbelievable to see the passer kind of evolving, right? Isn't that what we've got? Like, he's Lamar. He was nine of 119 on the ground for a touchdown. And that one run he had was unbelievable, right? But, but to see him evolve from, you know, a running quarterback who you know, is sometimes forced to throw to a dude who is a weapon in the passing game. Now, that's what it looked like on Sunday.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, I mean, I listen, the guy's already a league MVP. So I have no doubts that he can be the most valuable player on a team to get into the playoffs until I until I'm proven wrong though. I'm still gonna stand by the fact that I don't like as we've seen him, I don't I don't know that. For some reason. What he does in the Regulus Isn't does not translate to the postseason? Yeah. Or whatever.

Rob Kelly:

And you can't you can't argue that until he doesn't show up. Right. I agree with that point. 100% But I think Walmart for based off this performance that we saw a more great more positive on Lamar than I was coming into this game. Yeah. As the Ravens defense Yeah, that was you know, that was a massive Yeah. But again, I think by the end of the season, we're not going to be looking at this as a mass we're gonna be looking at it as like, holy shit. It's a really Yeah, I

Michael Marcangelo:

mean, I think already though, like to your point, this is more of a what you should be talking more about the Miami Dolphins when as opposed to the Baltimore Ravens loss a great you know, I mean, because everything had to go right for for the dolphins, but just just, again that statline you had to two receivers responsible for 21 catches and 360 yards for a touchdown. It's ridiculous. Re Nicholas, any other standout games that you want to kind of go over before we get into your highly, highly controversial? Alright,

Rob Kelly:

that controversial by the I mean the Cardinals game? Yeah, I mean, that was that was just insane, man. Listen, I am on record multiple times on this podcast with being a cardinal hater. I'm a Kliff, Kingsbury hater. It just it seems like the team's a mess. They're never well prepared, Scott, it seems like Kyler doesn't give a shit half the time. But yeah, he's he's making a comeback. And he's just kind of like chillin on the bench like, bro, shouldn't you be like that, but I don't know. I thought I was being like, proven right in that first half man because they look really bad for the first three, or for the first how many quarters, six quarters of their season. They looked awful. And then all of a sudden, they just turned to not a cow attendant to superhuman. Second as absurd. Absurd.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, again, another team that erased a 20 point deficit, they're down 20 to nothing at halftime, and then all of a sudden, you know, all hell breaks loose for for Vegas. And you have when you make the trade last year, to get yourself a really good tight end, like the Cardinals thought that they did with Zach Ertz. This is a game that really pays off. I mean, you go he goes eight for 75. But that is that's that's what you need from every single game, especially while Hopkins is serving his suspension. But I thought I thought Kyler looked great in the second half. And and I don't know what his second half stats were. But that quote, you were to use one of your lines like it's the eye test. You could just tell in the second half that they would It would take a monumental effort to stop him from waiting and seeing the victory and they couldn't do it.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, there's there's I forget what it was but there was a play where he he obviously did like his powers and he's been around and he completed like a 30 are passed to AJ green. And I was just like, is he really gonna do this? Is this real? Is this really going to happen? Then that two point conversion man was one of the most insane football players I've literally so you know those Madden videos that trend sometimes where it's like, I'm, I'm throwing my Madden away because someone will like, go up to score a touchdown. Turn around at the one yard run all the way back to the one and go all the way and score again. It's like Bro, that's literally what it looked like. Hi. No. Have you ever seen anything?

Michael Marcangelo:

I've never seen I've ever seen a two point conversion play take like 60 seconds. Only for him just to run it in himself.

Rob Kelly:

It was it was just such a creative. That was the craziest part that he just kind of like he's running all the way around and all sudden you just kinda like skip

Michael Marcangelo:

around 40 yards to go eight. Yeah, that

Rob Kelly:

was wild man.

Michael Marcangelo:

What does it say about the Raiders though?

Rob Kelly:

That's obviously yeah, you bet blue rim. I think they're in trouble. To be honest. I was hired in the Raiders coming into the season. But like if it's just Josh McDaniels not a good coach, because I don't know what the hell you're doing. Not getting Davante Adams evolved in that second half. Man. What did he have in this game? Davante. Adams had you catches for 12 yards?

Michael Marcangelo:

He was I mean, he was targeted seven times.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, we exempt but like, that's not it's still not enough. Hey, that's fourth on the team. Matt Mack Hollins was targeted more than goddamn Davante Adams that cannot happen. That can't happen.

Michael Marcangelo:

Well, let me ask you a question. Let's say his target stayed the same. But he would he went six for Haiti. Would you feel differently?

Rob Kelly:

I guess. Yeah. I mean, I suppose I suppose. Yeah. But it just the Raiders just kind of seems like one of those teams where last year there seemed like one of those teams that always found a way to win on Sunday that looks like they're trying to find ways to win. As never it's never a good sign for a football team because you remember an overtime to they fumbled with it. They fumbled three goddamn times. And then they returned it. And that's how they won. The game matters. Like, you can't, you can't do things like that.

Michael Marcangelo:

Not to bring it back to like, New England. But if Bill was the head coach, he would have fired the whoever he would have fired, whoever fumbled in overtime, every single time. Now, if you're done, we'll just bring in some waterboy Nope, you're done too. We're gonna bring in some waterboy.

Rob Kelly:

But who was the who's the running back? Oh, no, he got he got here. bench for showing up to a meeting late. My bad. Yeah. And

Michael Marcangelo:

that was fine. But I mean, the thing about the Raiders, regardless of where they play, they're all they are notoriously slow starters. Always. I mean, last year, they were slow starters. And then, you know, you had whole Gruden controversy, not a real head coach. And then you had you know, what happened with their with their wide receiver. And they still finished drug. The problem is, I think we still on this show, I'll just speak for me. That's still the best division that we've probably ever seen in the NFL, in terms of star power and just potential. So starting Oh, in two is not great. And coughing up a game that you had in the bag? That's not a great sign either.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, no, for sure. against the team that you probably shouldn't be. Because I know this was a good one here. But in my opinion, I think Mr. Kingsbury is is my favorite first to be fired because I just was I don't have faith in him. I never have never well, he was a losing coach in college. He's a losing coach here. You know what I mean? He has Kyler Murray. He shouldn't be you know, coming down the stretch like he has been the past few years and coming out of the gate like this. So sure. He's a losing coach. Yeah, he was under 500 at Texas Tech. I mean, in the NFL. I think he's above 100. But I just mean like, he loses a lot. He loses big games. You know what I mean? Anytime it comes down to in the Cardinals have a chance to like come out and be that team. They blow it every goddamn time. Can't win with them. Right. Exactly. Yeah, that's I mean, that's really that's really it for that you know what I mean?

Michael Marcangelo:

I was gonna say my other thing that I wanted to mention I know that this will be a good parlay into your into your power ratings. Is what happened in in that Seattle fortnight again? How lucky are this 40 Niners to have had Jimmy Garoppolo on the bench.

Rob Kelly:

That's fucking crazy. It is it especially because of you know, like he was gearing it was almost a guarantee that he has gotten this offseason. Yeah, I mean, it was like he's going he's going and then it was huge surprise that they resigned him. And yeah, it's pretty big. Honestly, like I feel bad for Lance. It was it was gross when it when it happened. It was so yeah, I was so stood up on it, man. I don't know how these NFL players do it, man. They adrenaline man, what would Dak last year or a couple of years ago trying to bang his ankle back in on the ground. So like when it's trying to stand up when his ankles like? Yeah. But yeah, man, they're so lucky. Because I think they're better. They're better. They're better. They definitely have a higher ceiling than they did with Lance and the basements a hell of a lot lower two or higher, I guess. Because you know, with Landsborough I think it's possible you know, they stuck with them. offseason, they don't make the playoffs. I think that's a very real possibility. Where Jimmy Garoppolo you're surprised if they don't because now you know what? You don't know what the fortnight is, we're gonna be with Lance, they could have been running teams and not really getting those guys. With Jimmy man, it's, you know, you know, exactly what that team is with Jimmy Garoppolo. We've seen it for three years.

Michael Marcangelo:

So and he's been in the NFC title game two out of the last three years. So Right. So I guess my question before, you know before we go into the rankings, let's say that you now have like, we'll call it five quarters, the five ish quarters of the trailheads Experience Experience experiments in San Francisco. How bad of a draft pick was that?

Rob Kelly:

I think it was what they gave up to go up there is what makes it bad then you know, I get I kept trying to draft for the promise. You saw it with Carson Wentz. You saw with the with with these guys that were inexperienced. I think Herbert was very inexperienced coming out like the appeal is there man, but you didn't need to go up and get him like that because if you look back at that draft, field, Mac, all these guys fell down to exactly where the 40 Niners were originally. So it doesn't look good. I have to say it really doesn't look good. obviously like you can't control the injury. Yeah, for sure. But and that's a terrible thing to happen. No, I thought, you know, he was gonna have a good season. But yeah, it doesn't look good. That's, that's that's one of the worst draft picks I can remember just to give up what three first to go up and get him three first round picks.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yep. And you think, you know, again we're just talking with as of as of now he comes back into the Hall of Fame career we don't know. Yeah, as of right now. You think about the fact that Yeah, you had Justin fields Matt Jones go after after him. And if Trey lands if the worst had not happened, and he did start every single game this year, he would have attempted more throws this year than any time this in his life. But he's not he has never been a quarterback for a full season and attempted you know, let's just call it 500 passes or 600 passes. Yeah, so it's it's this is gonna bring up a lot of questions and with those questions you can only imagine the doubt that's going to be in his head now because his he's not you know, a traditional pocket passer he relies a lot on his athleticism that's I mean, I think that the 40 Niners were banking on that and now you have to wonder like what's he going to be like next year? What's What does come back as

Rob Kelly:

an injury like that always takes at least two years to like, fully recover from you know, you have your tire. Well, yeah, but he was really good last year, but

Michael Marcangelo:

someone said he just kept running

Rob Kelly:

forever forever that lives on they don't Can we talk about that real quick? Like we talked about? My cowboys are not in power. Okay, so this would be my one little blurb so we had more thoughts on Lance to actually have so first before I move on to that with the with the 40 Niners what was really surprising about the whole thing is Mack Jones seemed like the perfect God damn quarterback for that team, man. Yeah, he's he's Jimmy Garoppolo. But better, with more upside. Well, he might be better. We don't know. He can't throw the deep ball at me. He's definitely got more upside though. You know, in his gaming industry, definitely. And it just seemed like that that was a solid fit. And that's what I thought was gonna happen. That was the rumor of what was going to happen was they love mac Jones, and for them to go up and get lads. The whole thing just

Michael Marcangelo:

so before we talk about the your boys beaten the AFC Champions. The one thing that I'll say I'll just repeat that I said, when we drafted him my big fear about drafting a quarterback out of Alabama, as you've already seen them at their best because that Alabama program gets them to their peak, you know, the thing like Trey Lance or even even a Trevor Lawrence or adjusting the fields is there's so much upside right like you can even you can get them even better than they were. But when was the last time you saw a an Alabama quarterback coming into the NFL and do better.

Rob Kelly:

Their offense is just a machine that you can just plug out. Yeah, no, it makes sense for sure.

Michael Marcangelo:

And he was throwing to some people would strongly say one of the greatest wide receiving corps of all time.

Rob Kelly:

Was wasn't wattle and DeMonte Smith is DeVos. Yeah,

Michael Marcangelo:

yeah, good. I was terrible. Yeah. They,

Rob Kelly:

I'm still I'm still high on Magda. I still got upside. I know. It was a rough week, but we want it's gonna Yeah, I heard I heard he didn't I didn't watch most of that much of it. I heard he didn't look right, though.

Michael Marcangelo:

You know, we don't agree at all. That's fine, though. I mean, a wins away and you know, who cares? A beat usually 21 to 35 for 252 and a touchdown, and a peck.

Rob Kelly:

service so it's serviceable. Yeah,

Michael Marcangelo:

he was you know, he was Mitch Trubisky asked us bad boys Yeah,

Rob Kelly:

let's speak in a bad

Michael Marcangelo:

well, but look, let's preface by saying that in week one, you were you were you were begging your offensive coordinator to just run a consistent offense and let them run the plays that they know how to run an excel at what do they do what did California and week two he did that?

Rob Kelly:

Exactly that fucking exactly that and you see what happened? Do you see what fucking happened? It's It's unfathomable. That that like that's it took an entire game for him to realize that man that has taken all this time to realize that like listen, if you just hand the ball to Tony Pollard, he's gonna do some shit because he's really fucking good. You don't need to do gadget plays for all these guys stop overthinking it. And it just like even in this day game, right? So the way we want in this game, which you see how stressed out I am already like, it's just

Michael Marcangelo:

by the way, the reason that I for those of you at home that Bobby is stressed out, is because when Dak went down, I told Bobby was saying season's over for the Cowboys over and I said no. And I said, No, it isn't like they're, they're going to be in this and I think that stresses you out more.

Rob Kelly:

It does. It does. I was ready for the season to be over. I honestly was my my blood pressure had gone down and I was like, ah, right finally season, I can relax. But then we go out and beat the bangles, which honestly, I was telling I were gonna get smacked this week. I really 100% was like were getting killed. I bet on it. Right? See it just it seemed like it just set up for a Cowboys lose like 34 to seven. But instead, our defense is awesome. A and MB we actually ran an offense. However, even after doing that we stopped. We kind of felt like it kind of felt like the Celtics with the 22 point lead. Yeah, you know what I mean? Where like, they're just dribbling out the fucking clock and they're not running their offense. And it was the same exact thing. And like me and my buddy, were taxed were like, they're gonna blow this 100% their bonus. And then all of a sudden was 1717. And then my her hits that kick, which is different from last year. But like, the thing that stresses me out the most, right, so you have you have this kick. And what that so there's about 80 I think I forget how much time was left? There was like 18 to 16 seconds left. Yeah. And I'm like, bro, they better not run this fall all right down. But they right so they do that right? But instead of just like needing it or like running a job the middle like doing something simple. So you can get everyone right back and like, you know, need the ball and kick the game winning field goal. They run a goddamn pitch to the outside with like seven seconds left. And you know, Rome was like, Oh, it's okay. Cowboys, bandages, okay, and I'm sitting I'm like, fuck it. Is it? Is it okay. I used to wet like, it's like they knew it was gonna give us PTSD and even I don't know when they're still got them stressful. But hey, you're right. We're alive, man. And

Michael Marcangelo:

I don't know to thanks. One, your defense is not great. It's really good. They might be but don't. For some reason. Only the Cincinnati Bengals can go out there and only pick offensive linemen in the offseason in the draft and be worse than they were last year.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, but I mean Michael Parsons. Yep. No good

Michael Marcangelo:

No, he's he's great. And so is so states brother, as you mentioned, as you call but

Rob Kelly:

that was a full two years ago

Michael Marcangelo:

that we're cycling through now. How much longer is the starting running back?

Rob Kelly:

Here you shouldn't be was it I don't know. I've I've been saying this for like, I feel like two and a half years now since we got Pollard is like, it's so clear to me, man. Like I just don't I get the past protection thing. I understand that. But the reason for your starting running back being in the game should not be forgotten to in pass protection. They're running. They run the ball. Like I get that that's important. But you can scheme around that. You can't scheme around 3.2 yards of carry and it's just like, was it I forget that comment. Honestly, like I'm not trying to throw slander on Zeke because he's still serviceable. He's

Michael Marcangelo:

He's like the highest paid fullback in the league.

Rob Kelly:

That's that's a little bit of slander, but Polish just as fast bro. He's faster. He hits the holes harder. He runs with more purpose. He's stronger. There's just a he catches the ball better. It's just like check, check. Check, check, check check. What the hell are we doing here?

Michael Marcangelo:

You read Paul? Ryan is a north south runner. Zeke is an AI and this is gonna sound way worse. I mean it but he's like a super duper, Uber talented Laurence Moroney. He just refuses to hit the hole. He likes to dance around first. He's exceptional making his cuts. But I think this is a second week in a row where he did not average more than three and a half yards carry.

Rob Kelly:

He just used to be explosive through the holes and I think now he doesn't have that explosive this so he's just trying to be perfect, but

Michael Marcangelo:

it's like you're so upset.

Rob Kelly:

No, I'm I just was I just love Tony pollack. I have for so long. And I just think it's absurd that we're still sitting here. Though, like I this is like the theme of my cowboys. Life is like I talk about the same things for so long before they actually happen. And then when they happen, it works and I'm like what, how am I sitting Oh my god damn couch telling you for two years what works? Yeah, and you don't do it and then it works two years later and I'm like, come on. There's gotta be someone that's getting paid millions of dollars that can fuck and think about this better than me guy.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah, it's Jerry's kid.

Rob Kelly:

Don't you under stress,

Michael Marcangelo:

all I'm saying is you were in 2010 you wanted to you wanted to ban the clapper. And when they when they finally did you were right. They went further. You know, once Dec was healthy. They went further than they did that when when they hadn't. They just need a cop. Listen, I'm just I'm just gonna I'm gonna peel back the onion a little bit. Let you take a peek under the covers. For those of you at home. Sean Payton is the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. And when he gets there, you will be in the Super Bowl. Like promise Thank you assuming Brady isn't still playing quarterback community

Rob Kelly:

What's What's so weird about the Garrett thing is like, are frustrating. We were frustrated is we coach you does nothing right. And that's what pissed me off about it. It's like, bro, what do you do? Tell me what you do. Besides clap. That's it. Tell me what Mike McCroskey does just know, I guess now we call this place. This past week was the first time I saw him actually doing things that was like, conducive to winning on a Sunday.

Michael Marcangelo:

Here's, here's I'll tell you, Bobby as an outside perspective. The clapper, Jason Garrett. never won you again. But Mike McCarthy will will most certainly lose. You won. And you say that? That's a fact.

Rob Kelly:

All right, let's move on to bigger and better. I thought you were going to try and make me feel better. Just to make me feel fucking

Michael Marcangelo:

that CJ. express appreciation. Welcome. You want you want to go through your power rankings? Yeah. Alright. 10 to one.

Rob Kelly:

So we'll start with we'll go 10 to one let me Yeah, I just had to exit out of it. Because my goddamn headphones started playing things in my ear. So I'll just before I get into it. So this week, I asked Where did that message go?

Michael Marcangelo:

You asked who should be in the number 10 spot, you asked our entire podcast. I just want to I want to point out for those of you again listening or watching on YouTube, that the other four members of this podcast did not give him the time of day or pay him the respect to give him an answer. Yours truly, as always did but a lot of thought into it said you know what? Detroit? They hung in there with with Philly week one. Right. And, and they won week two, that should be your number 10. What did Bobby do? But he goes I hear you, Mike. So a number 10 in the power rankings of the San Francisco 40. Niners.

Rob Kelly:

Lesson All right, so I had it. So my my options for 10. I just want to let everyone know who was like in the running here. We had lions, the Jaguars, the Giants, the Vikings, the 40, Niners the Broncos and the Cardinals, they all they all show definite merit in week two to get up into those power rankings.

Michael Marcangelo:

Okay, let me ask you let them know. Let me just ask you a question out of the Cardinals. Okay. How did the the Broncos show merit in week two? They'd be they'd be the team that you believe is quite possibly the worst fucking team that we that we could ever see. They have a real shot of going own seven by seven. Yeah.

Rob Kelly:

So you're right that the Broncos, the Broncos definitely didn't show merit. The Broncos have merit from their talent. That's on the team. Sure. All right. So you're right. The Broncos are awful the first two weeks of the season. That's why they're not here. But listen, I I liked the lions a lot. I really do. And like I put in that I did with the original copy of the power rankings. It's like the version that no one ever sees. Has the lions on number 10 But I just got it. I looked at it and I was like, I just I'm not ready for that. I'm not I'm not ready to put them there. I I'm very high in lines. I'm with you. I just need to see a little more. I need to see a little more than I get you hung in there with the Eagles but That was like a lot of garbage time. And the commanders came, the commanders came back on you, Carson Wentz almost came back on you.

Michael Marcangelo:

So they're getting penalized for almost no,

Rob Kelly:

they're not getting penalized. They're not gonna It's just I want to make sure it's not still the lions before that I call them the top 10.

Michael Marcangelo:

Definitely still the lions too. But in that in that grouping, you had the lions, the Jaguars,

Rob Kelly:

I didn't pick them, but I wanted to pick Jaguars really bad,

Michael Marcangelo:

really. And so they deserve to be there for beating the Colts who just I told I told you again, Matt Ryan, yeah, they're ducks. He's got nothing, he has nothing left. And for what it's worth, I was rooting hard for the Jaguars. And I can't do that I'm hard to I said they were gonna blow the doors off the Colts didn't know it'd be 20 for nothing. But if you think about the fact that you those two, were two out of the four teams that you were thinking to put in your top 10 In the NFL, like that's number 10. That's pretty wild. Yeah,

Rob Kelly:

it's fun. It's fun. It really is. And even the next team, the Giants, you know what I mean? The Giants been up there. Same thing. I'm not ready for them yet. They're there. It's one of those things where like to shower, I can't use that reference.

Michael Marcangelo:

Well, has there ever been a worst to no team? Besides the 2019 New England Patriots? Aside from the New York Giants?

Rob Kelly:

I think there's giants team gives them a run for them. The bears have two years ago or last year? Yeah, I just so Right, right. That's up there. I think the bears that are being almost five though

Michael Marcangelo:

were like the giants like they believe in devil like they, they're they've bought in I don't I don't know, Daniel Jones or whatever, be great, whatever. But if you can keep sacred and healthy, then you have a shot. But you have a real chance. They

Rob Kelly:

look like one of those teams that just finds a way. You know, they mean like, they're gonna they're not gonna play good every Sunday guarantee they're gonna play like shit most Sundays. But when it comes down to it, it's gonna be like 19 to 1623 to 21 going into that fourth quarter, and they're always gonna be right there. So that's why they had a chance to be in there. But again, Daniel Jones cannot make to talk to us. Yeah, you

Michael Marcangelo:

know, they again, they kind of feel like the 2011 2007 Giants were they're not going to win 12 games, but you probably don't want to play them if they get into the playoffs.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, I think they have a chance. I mean, in that in that NFC. He's like, who knows what the Cowboys are gonna be. Eagles are really good. We'll get to them. But like, you'd never know what's gonna happen in that division. So I think there's a chance. The other ones I considered the Cardinals because of the comeback. But again, I actually think they stink. I couldn't put them in their Broncos because of the talent. And then, you know, the Vikings were tucked in, tucked in, going into going into Monday night roads and Kirk Cousins just shed his pads on national TV again, you know, he has to it's a 242 a primetime game did his careers.

Michael Marcangelo:

I don't know it's not that I'm pretty sure he's five and 25 and

Rob Kelly:

I saw it was like I don't know.

Michael Marcangelo:

Perfect. The perfect game. 242 242

Rob Kelly:

heat but Okay, that's it. That was that was one of the worst quarterback games I've ever seen in my life. That was really bad. There's what did you expect that there was there there's multiple plays man, where where Jefferson was fucking running by himself where they ran, they ran the correct play to get him open for a touchdown. That was one where he leaped out of the backfield on a wheel route and he was wide open. There is the the play before the interception display in the endzone. He was on a on a slant wide open over the middle for a touchdown cousin dumped it down and checked down both times and then threw a pick the next play all times as they do. Who else are you looking for? You know, whatever. I mean, how was he looking for?

Michael Marcangelo:

What's so crazy, as you just mentioned, like three times that they did that they should have targeted Jefferson and they didn't. And he still had 12 targets in that game. I think you've taught like, what, six or 48 but the times that they didn't look at him, he was wide open, wide open. And, and Curtis didn't trust himself to get get the ball

Rob Kelly:

there. And he was he's he really? You saw it early. You thought you knew you knew he was.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean essentially once the lights turned on, like you knew that it was it was over. Oh, by the way. Jalen hertz is a problem.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, he is big time. But yeah, so that leaves the last time on the west here it just with the past pedigree, taking that new account With Jimmy coming back man, it just, you know, like it took a team that I thought had really high ceiling on the air with Lance, you know that what could be into a team that went to an NFC Championship game last year knocked my cowboys out of the playoffs and probably could have and should have gone to like the they had the Rams number all last year so I've even had the Super Bowl champions number last year with Jimmy G so it just it seemed right putting them at number 10 And like I said the moment the lions right, and it sat there for a second and I was like why lions huh?

Michael Marcangelo:

I can't be right, that cannot be right.

Rob Kelly:

I deleted it and put in 49 years and researched it was like that looks much better. So that's that's how they got number 10 It's just the pedigree segment it's been proven with Jimmy G.

Michael Marcangelo:

Number nine the Green Bay Packers dude. I'm sorry. Why? Sound okay, I need you to tell me why the Packers are better than the Giants. Aside from how fucking ridiculous that statement sounds this year. How are they better? Bro

Rob Kelly:

I don't even have to answer that. Yes, Aaron Rodgers over Daniel fucking Jones man. Okay, what about what about the other Fitzhugh players it does matter it bro that's like that's that's it that's a that's an 8.5802 that you're comparing on the scale you know me like well what about the other the other features don't matter at that point. You know? I'm I'm just saying I know the shallow I'm sorry for any ladies out there listening I apologize. But I'm just saying phone features dude. No, I'm I'm talking about like the one to 10 scale

Michael Marcangelo:

sleep on the couch features while you're talking to fucker was nice. Oh, nice. That's just a fact. But the yet, bro. It's Aaron Rodgers. But it's okay. Aaron Rodgers in his win. I'm just going to read you his stat line 19 and 25. Let's that's great. For 234 two touchdowns. His receiving corps Sammy Watkins. Aaron Jones is running back. Randall Cobb was 116 years old. Romeo Dobbs Allen Lazard Robert TONYAN I mean they're just that I promise you you can I hope that you hold this against me for as long as we do this if I'm wrong. Aaron Rodgers will never develop younger wide receivers that were not a top 10 pick. You won't and he's just not he's just not that guy. He isn't so I know why the pedigree and it's Aaron Rodgers but I don't know man. It sounds like you were kind of dipping into his offseason routine when you when you put them ahead of the giant

Rob Kelly:

but I love love how much that comes up just casually now whenever he's on the field are like involved with that, isn't it like, oh, you know you must be chuckling ballsy you know I Alaska but the it really is just sitting there Rogers pedigree man and in the fact that he's not playing his best ball and he hasn't developed his Korea and he's not throwing four touchdowns and they still can look that good because they look pretty good and Eric Jones and he doing our problem so it just watching that game on Sunday it felt like the Packers were back and just based off the other teams that I was picking between they just they had they had that up of Aaron Rodgers overall so

Michael Marcangelo:

Okay, all right. So we have number 1040 Niners never never nine Green Bay Packers. Who's the new number eight slot

Rob Kelly:

so I feel like this could be controversial. I'm not really sure. But if the Ravens at number eight I'm not racking them as much as everyone was. For this past week. It was we already said it. That's one of the fastest and most skilled by receive records I've ever seen put together in my life even as you go down to like Chase Edmonds coming out of the backfield like this. There's so many different weapons on that offense in Miami and they still have Lamar Jackson man. I think this is a Lamar season. I think we saw that in week two and I don't think that you're going to see another game where they give up a 35 the 14 week you know I think that that's definitely something that's like a was an anomaly in the season and they're not going to be that team they've too good of a coach too good of a quarterback and good weapons on offense. So I'm high on the Ravens if Lamar can be Winmar and stay healthy I think a top three MVP is like chalk at this point. I think it's almost guaranteed if Walmart how's the for all the games she's top three MVP,

Michael Marcangelo:

and presumably right there, they're only going to get better with JK Dobbins coming back. Healthy. It Feels like Lamar and and Bateman have figured it out. That's gonna be a top top connection. Listen, it's hard. First of all, I admire the fact that he's, he's representing himself. He wants to be contract. I think he turned down a lot of money. And I think he's kind of he's playing out. I hope it works out well for him. I think Harbaugh is such a good coach that you could literally give him Joe Flacco and he's gonna have that team in the running. But Lamar is is just exceptional. And I think he proved it in this game even even even in an owl. Like he was almost perfect.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, you know, Rayshawn Lucena like I don't know if he's gonna get roe Lamar Jackson is gonna get his dough. I'm like 99% Sure it's gonna be fun ravens because how stupid they better be it that's it? I mean, like it better be bad if there was

Michael Marcangelo:

number one on his list of the Patriots

Rob Kelly:

for sure. Now

Michael Marcangelo:

who? Miami? Yeah, fair. And that would be terrible. It's It's, uh, it's my it's my filly. And then there was one other team and by the way those first few options are not good either one of us on this podcast

Rob Kelly:

No, but yeah, he's gonna get paid so you know like Lamar Lamar is a one of you might not be one of a kind anymore we'll get to that in a little bit. But yeah, he He's unbelievable man and as long as Lamar is healthy, and this team is showing that promise on offense, they're going to be in this top 10 so

Michael Marcangelo:

number seven, the team to beat Washington just mentioned

Rob Kelly:

their first parents this year in the Power Rankings Miami Dolphins I couldn't put them higher than this because the tuba you know what I mean? That just still holds them back a little bit compared to the teams above them for six touchdowns I get it listen to Laker shame me for wanting a little bit more proof after a year and a half of being shitty that one good week should

Michael Marcangelo:

he did he did he lead his team to seven straight victories last year yet but it

Rob Kelly:

was a he when you watch him play quarterback there's a lot missing most of the time that was the best game I've seen from to by far that that was that was the two of that we were promised coming out where he's making these these these throws on a dime he's extending plays those that one spin move played that he had that was like like bro that's that's the two that I remember from Alabama from that national championship game like that's the two I remember not not the one from this past year. So I just need a little more time but but that wide receiver record is is trouble for anyone at anytime man. I honestly like if you if you think about the best wide receiver course ever so you have like Randy Moss and Chris Carter. You have Jerry all Jerry Rice and Tim Brown was actually like a more Jerry

Michael Marcangelo:

Rice and Terrell Owens or Jerry

Rob Kelly:

Rice and Terrell Owens right. Moss and Wes Welker. I'm gonna put that out there.

Michael Marcangelo:

They're one of them.

Rob Kelly:

They're really good that Yeah, I mean, almost perfect. You just, that's fair. You just, you just go down the list, man. You're never going to find one that says electric, as this wide receiver core. I just don't think that that's it's ever been seen before. So I think sky's the limit. Let's see. Do

Michael Marcangelo:

you think that they're better? Like, just give me a grade? Is that is that wide receiving core better than, like Adam Thielen and Justin Jefferson? Yes, yes. Yes. And that's just because you think wattle is so much better than feeling or or Jefferson?

Rob Kelly:

I just, I think that you have to Justin Jefferson's on the team instead of you know, a lot of teams have a one and a two you know, the Miami Dolphins have to legitimate number one wide receivers who can take the top off at anytime. And they they are always open so you know what I mean? The ball the ball, the bog, there's plenty of passes to go around. Because they're each catches seven eight balls a game. It's not like one's getting 12 nose getting like this is the Miami offense that we see that we saw in that second half. Yeah, we're thoughts. Yeah, the aliens and patriots. Yeah, boy. Yeah. The AFC East is is a dogfight man between those two, but

Michael Marcangelo:

yeah. All right. I have one more objection that I'm gonna make it I'm not going to make it until you mentioned the team that I feel should be below them.

Rob Kelly:

Okay, so number six. This is really just because of they took one of the best teams in the league to the wire on Thursday night and and week one they look good against the raiders and they have all this hype coming to the season they've Justin Herbert water weapons on that team and good defenses Los Angeles chargers the I know that, you know they they lost that game Thursday night. But if what is it who was the tight end? I can't remember his name right now. But tight end, getting tired and wanting to come off the field. Next play. Donald never gelled ever. Yes. jeraldo for dogs. And that's when the pick six happens that that play doesn't happen, man. It's a whole different ballgame that charged game up. So I think the charges are right there. I still think they have a little bit to prove just because they kind of been this team that's done that every year. And that kind of piqued his head. But they're still in here for now.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, that pick a 99 yard return for a touchdown. Pretty, pretty incredible. Yeah, listen on paper. That team is that defense is a problem. Yeah, I mean, by the way, this isn't like a patriot cater thing in case that comes about. I said when he was here. I don't know that Jesse Jackson is the number one quarter. I just don't know. I don't think he is. He paid like one good for him. But I really I love Asante Samuel Jr. I think that that team with Khalil Mack you know Vannoy Bosa like that's that's a great that should be a great tea sets. Well aside Well, uh, you can't win championships on paper. The Rams prove that wrong last year. So you can Yeah, I don't have a problem with this.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah. And and was big for the Chargers. I think the biggest thing about everything they did right is that Khalil Mac looks like Khalil Mac you know, it'd be one thing if if you've got like the what everyone thought was a worn down version of glare Mac whatever. He worked awesome. The first two games of the season. I think he's too in the league in sacks and he has like, two and a half or three sacks already this season. So if Khalil keeps doing that, and you you have Joey Bosa off the other corner man Derwin James and safety you don't I mean, like in January, which is when it really matters that's gonna be really hard deep breaths to move the ball on. Oh, yeah, like really? Number five so we're staying in the same city. We're going with the same stadium although judging by the fans you would never know but the rams and number five still the Champs you know they look good against the Falcons. They had a little weirdness at the end there were they I feel there's just something in the atmosphere on Sunday I don't know what the hell was going on but they pulled out the game against Falcons like they blew like almost 28 point lead but they look good for most of the game you know like they they're still the Rams they still have Aaron Donald's still Stafford there's still stacked up and down and Alan Robinson actually look okay

Michael Marcangelo:

there is no reason no reason at all. That the Miami Dolphins should be ranked behind the Los Angeles Rams not I mean the that's fair the Rams last week one of the blocks of the bills who are wagon and I'm sure we'll talk about but they tried everything in their power to lose to Atlanta and I guess Yeah, talent one overall but I think if you just look at the first few games of the season and you don't take into consideration the fact that they won the Super Bowl last year. You can't sit here and tell me that in your heart of hearts you believe right now if the Rams played the dolphins the Rams to beat them fair

Rob Kelly:

naj driger point no you're right because especially with everything we just said about the dolphins was that it is it is you know you said take out the Super Bowl it is because there was last year you know they have they have that championship pedigree still. And I think that that Super Bowl stink is still on him I guess we'll see what happens with the bills this week in the dolphins. I will do a little preview at the end we'll talk about a little bit of week three but yeah, I just think that's going to show exactly who the dolphins are how good they are. And and exactly you know at the same time the Rams too because listen if the bills come out and they just absolutely steamroll the dolphins then that just doesn't tell us much about the dolphins or the res which is just unbelievable. Right so we'll see what happens yeah, I that's a really good point dot. I don't I can't hate on that. And I don't honestly have an argument against it because I'm really high on the dolphin. So what about

Michael Marcangelo:

that? What about the tale of two weeks between the Falcons? The Falcons they blew a huge lead against New Orleans last week. And then they came storming back to almost beat as the defending Super Bowl champions. There's there's something weirds going on down there in Atlanta. I just I will never trust a team that is led by Marcus Mariota. And that has Kyle Pitts on their their roster and doesn't utilize them.

Rob Kelly:

Don't use. Don't use them at all. And then the coach is like, Listen, I don't care about fairness football. I'm trying to win a game. Do you know what would help you win a game? Throwing the ball to Kyle Pitts?

Michael Marcangelo:

Right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, try it. Just try it five times.

Rob Kelly:

Good strategy. It's like when the Cowboys scored a touchdown this weekend. And I was like, Hey, we should we should do that more often. You know, like, Yeah,

Michael Marcangelo:

no kidding. Right. Number four.

Rob Kelly:

So number four. I I just did this just based off my testament the first two weeks of the season I've number four. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And our boy TB 12. Who looks like Kevin Bacon went out in smoke crack for three weeks. But yeah, they didn't impress me at all. The first two weeks, I have to say like, even beating my cowboys, man. I think their defense. So way back, I think they're defensively. I think their defense is really, really, really good. And I think honestly, like my cowboys thing was kind of an overreaction from week one. Because of how damn good that defense is. You know what I mean? I just think that they're gonna be like a top three defense. But the offense man, I don't know. Like, uh, you know, we talked about it being a wagon. Their wide receivers are so deep, all this stuff that none of them can stay healthy. A and B, the first two weeks of the season that offense is done nothing. That that encouraged that tells you like this team is going for a Super Bowl run. Like have you seen anything from them? Except for like, the Julio Jones plays and we want to guess cowboys that have really been like, Oh, nice. Let's go.

Michael Marcangelo:

Here's I'll tell you as bad as they've looked. When you need him to make one throw. I know. It still makes it. He does. It's like it's stupid. How? How how he he by the way, he's gonna make Cole Beasley a pro

Rob Kelly:

bowler the show. I'm so mad. They got him.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, he's going to do that. And that fits his model. Yes, they their offense looks bad. Their defense looks looks looks exceptional. I did the best go into probably level off at some point in time. But for all those people out there that are saying that are saying you know, this is the cliff we maybe it is we heard that 10 years ago. Maybe this when you need him to make a 30 yard dark.

Rob Kelly:

Yes. Throw that throw that throw it was that was that to Perriman was that? That was one of the best throws on Sunday. Right? Like it was it? You're right. No, you're 100% right. One thing I can say what is a cliff is his jawline. Now. I don't know. I don't know what what like not they steer us off into what the hell happened to Tom.

Michael Marcangelo:

Well, yeah, it's just Giselle sucking the life out of them and not the good literally

Rob Kelly:

literally just sucking sucking the life. I think he got a bunch of work done or something. G Bobby, it looks like a really bad cheek job rose like your cheek job makes Terry's boob job look exceptional. And just that's it it's a little throwback for any night. person you right it really doesn't it's like ages us a little bit but it's a great comparison obey Some people probably listen to this like who the fuck is Tara Reid?

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah. She was she she was hot. She was why anymore. Now she looks like Skeletor that movie is ugly. Say that. You can't say that because Taylor

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, it is. It was a whole thing. Remember, it was like trending for a line.

Michael Marcangelo:

It just might be worth it to go to your number three team. Yeah, you've

Rob Kelly:

done that to me too. Anytime. Yeah, so number three. I put them ahead just because of the eye test man. Like I said they are electric. Their quarterback is possibly the only rival to Lamar Jackson when it comes to athleticism in the NFL. Philadelphia Eagles man i It pains me pains me to put it in this high because it was a you know as much as anyone. I hate the Eagles so much like so much. I hate the Eagles like it. I rooting for the Patriots to beat them in the Superbowl. That's how much I just don't do that again, please. Yeah, that might be why you lost but yeah Jaylen hurts man. If that's if that is the Jaylen hurts that we get. The Eagles are a goddamn problem. And the rest of the NFL needs to recognize that because they have Have they have the defense bro they have, you know, they have Jordan Davis up the middle. They have Darius slay. And then on offense, they're just up and down. Unstoppable. You have Jaylen, you have Dallas got her. You have the Devonte Smith, AJ Brown. Myles Sanders like they're they're just a wagon on offense. And if if Jalen hertz is playing like that, man, they're tough to beat. The Cowboys aren't winning the NFC is I can promise you that. If that's the Eagles, we see every week. The Cowboys are in a lot of trouble in that division.

Michael Marcangelo:

So I think that the Eagles are good. I think that what we saw on Monday night was a 7030 mixture of just how much of how terrible Kirk Cousins is. Right? Like I'm a big Jalen hertz fan. I think if I think he can be dangerous, I think also this game highlighted for me as a again as a patriot fan. I don't know that we have the type of quarterback they can do this because we don't have a quarterback. They can run fast. Or throw far. And Jaylen Jalen hertz can hit he can he can extend plays. And when you surround him with with players, like you mentioned, Dallas, got it done. Mike Smith, AJ Brown, and then your running backs again, are you know, Myles Sanders, you're, you're pretty good. That's, they're gonna be there with the Cowboys at the end.

Rob Kelly:

So what's crazy is like, so what 100% They will be, they're gonna be better than the Cowboys. If you if you're asking me shocker, they're gonna leave that in the cup. Because when it's still so two things, it's crazy to me, the NFL teams can look at what wins, right? And look at how teams get successful. And still not think that surrounding your quarterback with the best possible weapons that you can possibly afford is not a great idea. It blows my mind that people think that they can take an Amari Cooper, just for some random example, training for fifth round pick and not replace him and it's going to be okay for a team to lose Tom Brady, and think that you can replace him with a Cam Newton or the Packers can not have Davante Adams and it'd be okay. Like it's still it just blows my mind. And when you see a guy like AJ Brown, go from the Titan to the one seed and go to the Eagles and turn them into a juggernaut offense all of a sudden now that the the Titans can barely goddamn move the ball is like guys, what more do you need to see that when when you want to win and you want to do these things, you got it? You got to go get guys through your quarterback. Because it just it gives him so much more confidence and like what they're doing and how they run the offense and don't have to think about who's outside? Who's doing this. Who's doing that? No, it's got them AJ brown running over the top, I'm just gonna throw it at yard and he's gonna catch it cool. Like, it's such a different mindset, man. And our two teams specifically go through this and it's just like, man,

Michael Marcangelo:

now you've always I mean, your team is always in a pretty good job of developing skill position players.

Rob Kelly:

You've been in skilled position. How for years?

Michael Marcangelo:

Well, yeah, maybe. But what I would say what I what I would say is that when we when the wells run dry up up here in New England, he just goes out and spends $100 million on for seven years fives instead of one 100 So what I mean by he would rather spend whatever I don't want to turn that into this but all I know is that those people that say that divots you know Devonta Smith is not big enough for the NFL, he's not going to transition well. I will just say seven catches on seven targets for 80 yards and he's he's your second option on that team. Maybe he's your maybe your second or third because Goddards number one Yeah, I think AJ Brown I think the great talent there so that is that that is one of the that's one of the best wide receiving or I was a past catching grips in the league.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, for sure man and it's so well we'll move on to number two and a second year but the with the hurt segment it's I just think it's so hard to judge a quarterback right when When you surround him I think his wide receivers last year were like Jalen rager and quest Watkins you know or to

Michael Marcangelo:

rager over Jefferson

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, that's so crazy and then traded in the Vikings but the it's just it's so crazy that like you sit here and like try and judge a quarterback on this right and then what You see what they look like when you give them studs? Right? It's night and day, man and it's it's it's so evident by this team but yeah, anyways, eagles are number three just because of that upside like I said the offense and hurts looking like this with weapons around him is a different quarterback than when he was throwing the no one in mind. So oh yeah to these top two teams are probably going to remain the same for a long time. I mean, I guess we'll see what happens this week with the bills but number two is Kansas City Chiefs. They look good on Thursday against charges. I mean, what the hell else can you say? You know what I mean? Like Patrick mahomes Patrick mahomes, bro, it comes down to that and like everything we everything. Literally the last five minutes of this podcast don't matter. When it comes to patch.

Michael Marcangelo:

You could like go a Tyree kill. You can still be doing Oh yeah, no, we can. That's fine. We're fine. We'll just bring in a bow this Stanley and Juju Smith. It's 5g. Yeah, and sky

Rob Kelly:

more and like yeah, no, we're fine. We're gonna 149 Fucking 14 Week One. And MB the team was the most upside in the NFL week, right? Yeah, I don't even say about them. Is like rather unbelievable. They really are. And then number one, of course, the wagon. That is the goddamn Buffalo Bills. They came out and waxed. The former number one seed tempt Tennessee Titans was 48 was 49. To 741 to 741 to seven. That game was over so fast. Man that so fast. Josh Allen is unbelievable. It's he's the best quarterback in the NFL right

Michael Marcangelo:

now. Are you sure? No.

Rob Kelly:

Is he I feel like he's the hardest to stop

Michael Marcangelo:

going over your head. Would you pick him over? mahomes I just think it's mahomes League until it isn't. Yeah, you

Rob Kelly:

probably right. It's close. It's hollow session. Yeah, I would consider it. But if it's one game to win, I guess I was still taking a home jet. But that's one two. Right? Those are the two guys man. Yeah, I shall. The thing that is a little more scary with Josh Allen and how good he is man is how big he is. When when he when he's running downhill. It's like a goddamn linebacker. But like you can see it in the defense. They're like, Oh, yeah, like, he never gets tackled back. I've never, ever seen him get like hit back. It's always going forward. He always picks

Michael Marcangelo:

so the route so I was gonna tell you the reason why I was I would always pick mahomes over him so far was because there was one time in this game where Josh Allen was under under pressure. And he he looked like he was gonna be taken down. And you know, every quarterback in the league knows just following keep going and keep the ball under control. And he just tosses it.

Rob Kelly:

That's what he does. Now. You're right, you're right. I literally knew exactly what because he does like that fucking that's Yeah,

Michael Marcangelo:

yeah, he's like, he's like Brightstar without the techniques yet and without

Rob Kelly:

and without the highway or the grand larceny.

Michael Marcangelo:

But the bull the sorry, the pills are these are fucking wagon. They are a wagon. And let me tell you as as a fan of a team that is in the same division. It has become very apparent that it is the bills division until they don't want to be anymore. Yes, they'd be the bag after the Super Bowl champions. Then they come and beat the bag after the number one scene the MC last year. And yeah, Josh Allen 26, completions, 300 yards, four touchdowns. That's great. The real problem though is is that you know who is going to throw to I know he's gonna throw to Stevie Wonder knows who's gonna throw too. We all know. They threw to Steph on dates. 15 times out of this out of his 38 attempts, 12 completions, 148 yards, three touchdowns.

Rob Kelly:

Unbelievable.

Unknown:

You can't do that. You can't do that.

Rob Kelly:

And listen, there's a reason why. Travon dad called him Stefon Diggs is brother because he's just that guy damn good man is like the crazy part about all this is like their number two, Gabriel Davis was out for this game. He wasn't even in there mad and

Michael Marcangelo:

he just gave Diggs all of his or all every target.

Rob Kelly:

It goes to David yet but like even bringing Isaiah McKenzie is pretty good Dawson like they just got guys man and and yeah, they're, they're gonna be tough to be in. Even bigger pickup than anything else in the offseason was Von Miller man like as well. Like we talked about him last year when he went to the Rams you might be washed up, you might be this you know, blah, blah, bro. When when he goes into a defense, he just it's his defense though you know what I mean? Like that defense is now his. So what we'll see what happens going forward but I just think would that defense playing like they are and having a guy like bond coming off the offset outside and they're tough to beat them.

Michael Marcangelo:

Yeah I mean listen, Von Miller is the classic case right now is his stats don't properly articulate his impact because in this game, I think he had like one tackle one, but he has turned a defense that was already really good. And some would say took a step back in terms of in the secondary because there's no reason why they should be as good as they are right now. And he has instilled so much competence and swag in that on that defense that it's, it's scary. It is very scary to see what they're doing to literally everyone they've played.

Rob Kelly:

They don't have their number one corner yet either. Oh, my Calvin he's out. We'll say no as before before we get out of here, but we're right at our time here but I do kind of want to kind of want to touch on a little Week Three for you. And we're gonna leave right off with what we just talked about the bills, man, that plane and dolphins what's gonna happen in this game? Man, I this this is the game of the week to me right that 100% This is the game of the week.

Michael Marcangelo:

I mean, it should be the My only fear is that seven times out of 10 a game that with this much height on paper doesn't live up to it. I mean tua is like 60 of ad for 740 yards, seven touchdowns this year, but Tyreke hill I mean, RTS three, almost 300 yards receiving, we're this is going to be the test of that of that bill's defense if they if they can contain wattle, and until they're gonna win this game. Yeah, I mean, that's it. That is the answer right there. If they don't know if you see a similar statline for those two, as you saw in Baltimore, it would be really hard for me to for me to pick the bills

Rob Kelly:

yet. So I think in my high tech, if the bills beat the dolphins in this game, don't I think 17 are now very obtainable for them and I'm very serious about that. Listen, if they can go in to Miami, right, with with backup defensive backs, literally their backups. I think it's gonna be two rookies it sounds exactly like what we talked about against LA but rookies against these two wide receivers and somehow come out of there with a when you look at their schedule, I don't know who the hell was gonna beat that. So if they can come if they go into this game that's on the table appears on the table. And we three and we three those who

Michael Marcangelo:

here's the thing there's a lot of like a lot of disrespect being put on the on the dolphins name right now because they are six point underdogs opponent. It's crazy. After doing what they've done so far this year, I mean, that should be the game of the week.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, that is a big spread for that

Michael Marcangelo:

doesn't make any sense. But again, last time you were you Iraq. What the fact is Vegas now.

Rob Kelly:

Vegas knows may have Vegas notice. And then the only other one that we're talking about is the most surprising fun game of the week. And that's the Jaguars chargers versus the Jags man, stop. If If you fuck no. It's gonna be fine Italian, you

Michael Marcangelo:

know, the Chargers are gonna blow the doors off of the J word is that it's Bobby. You can bank on it right now. This game will be over at halftime. Okay, I promise. Okay, because the other the fun game you should be in your mind. Because it's the last time maybe the last time you're going to see it. You should really relish the fact that it's

4:

25pm you get to watch Tom Brady beat the shit out of Aaron Rodgers one more time. One more time.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah. If that's gonna happen, their offense is gonna need to score more than six points. There's

Michael Marcangelo:

you Sure?

Rob Kelly:

Well, yeah, well, maybe.

Michael Marcangelo:

Maybe Bernie just needs to make free throws. And then there'll be times they will be out and it'll be the Cole Beasley. He's gonna I mean, the guys have to go off take him off and fantasy

Rob Kelly:

west. So actually, I was gonna I was gonna mention that earlier. Kobe is scoring a touchdown this week. Of course he is that on that shit back on that shit. Cole Beasley is scoring a touchdown this week. Tom Brady will fucking make sure of that. Last game. Well actually who you guys got this week.

Michael Marcangelo:

We have the Ravens Bobby. Coming off of the

Rob Kelly:

A 21.1 I might be in trouble this week. So

Michael Marcangelo:

I would say that we're probably never going to see a more determined ravens team want to be then then this week? I think it's going to be you know, the one but the one glimmer of little one shining light that I have in this whole scenario is that with Cam Newton we beat him.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah. Which does that Belkin scheme against Omar's he's been able to show that

Michael Marcangelo:

and I don't know who knows who knows it's got what what's going to happen I do think that you should see a better night job this week. And if we've learned anything based off the last week that you know if you just give me a quarterback time your receivers are going to get open against the Ravens so take advantage of it I just don't know if Mike Jones can hit the same type of throws while them saying that comparing the two but you know I'm playing for the Patriots. It feels like the odds are stacked against them

Rob Kelly:

yeah, those Yeah, that's tough game.

Michael Marcangelo:

What do you have this week?

Rob Kelly:

We're Monday night man against those two now. New York Giants we are we are three point underdogs

Michael Marcangelo:

No one put your one point underdogs when I

Rob Kelly:

lose three last time okay. It's down to one now. Yeah.

Michael Marcangelo:

So basically your two point favorites because the giants are home

Rob Kelly:

to be underdogs to Daniel Jones at any point home away on the moon doesn't matter is still just crazy to me that that's actually Dak it's like Cooper rush. I know. I know. It's Cooper. Yeah. No, I get it. I don't know. Maybe we had Do you see my maybe we had a Tom Brady. Maybe we had our Tom Brady moment this past week. Who knows what Cooper was

Michael Marcangelo:

talking about throwing a lot of shade on Bledsoe but it is throwing

Rob Kelly:

a lot of shade on butser and even more shade on Tom Brady.

Michael Marcangelo:

But I don't know about that yet. But

Rob Kelly:

uh, but ya know, I like Cooper. I like the way he runs the offense. And if we win this game

Michael Marcangelo:

you're going to win this game.

Rob Kelly:

I know. And I guess we're back in it. You know, like I as reluctant as I am to admit it like if DAX coming back. So that were the streets week for week five. And that's actually a thing. Yeah, what the hell? I guess? I guess the seasons not over.

Michael Marcangelo:

You're right. You're gonna I told you if you're if you're two and three or three and three when he comes back. This is not like nothing would have changed. Ever Are you? You're just where you are. We would have been the entire time. Just believing in your cowboys lobby

Rob Kelly:

believing them that the hell did they just go through that like four day span for them?

Michael Marcangelo:

Maybe it's because you don't get that from being a Red Sox fan anymore. So you had to find something else. And now the Cowboys are your team have fare? Well, for the real BK Bob Kelly. This is Michael Morgan Angelo saying thank you so much for listening to missing the point. We'll talk to you next week.