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Oct. 22, 2021

Red Sox on the Brink of Elimination, Cowboys/Pats Reactions, Week 7 Power Rankings

Red Sox on the Brink of Elimination, Cowboys/Pats Reactions, Week 7 Power Rankings

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On this episode of MTP, we go over the Red Sox blowing two straight games as the ALCS now heads back to Houston. We recap week six in the NFL including the Dallas Cowboys overtime win versus the New England Patriots, and we go over the Week 7  NFL Power Rankings.

Hosts: Bob Kelly, Dave Clarke
Producer: Craig D'Alessandro

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Transcript
Craig D'Alessandro:

Today on MTP, we go over the Red Sox boring two straight games as the ALCS now heads back to Houston. We recap week six in the NFL including the Cowboys overtime win versus the England Patriots and we go over the week seven power rankings This is missing the point Episode 92 but it's all relative

Rob Kelly:

we talked Red Sox I mean I definitely want to get into a little depressing

Dave Clarke:

at the moment isn't it? They're like definitely gonna lose

Craig D'Alessandro:

it. It's trending that direction.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, Craig you're so confident man you got my confidence up and it's just come crashing down to earth so fast man

Dave Clarke:

it's like the fucking I think the Astros didn't really look like themselves in the first couple of games and now they're doing the thing that you're doing everybody else where they can just peel off like nine flippin runes, like they're just good with the bat

Rob Kelly:

well i mean you set the bar to do their pictures in the first three games didn't get out of the first fucking two minutes right so it's like good not not only are you not getting quality starts at your starting pitching but you're not getting anything out of your starting pitcher the Red Sox should have been up three oh

Dave Clarke:

that's the thing that was the target now

Rob Kelly:

in and we dominated those first couple games that game one we had one what was the game for it's all kind of blending together in the one shit show at this point.

Dave Clarke:

Yes but like aim for was the blown lead right?

Rob Kelly:

Yeah guess what it was was a warm lead in a nation of Nate hit that spot when it was in brought there's just so many different things that have happened where it's like it doesn't seem like it is the Red Sox series

Dave Clarke:

that's got too hot I feel like Yeah, apparently the Astros are doing that to fucking everybody though.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, I'm sorry we're like you shouldn't score all your wrongs all at once you know what I mean? Like Yeah, they shouldn't they should have let off the gas and game two and three because we scored 14 runs and suck on both those games.

Dave Clarke:

What if the same thing is true for the Astros though because they fired off what like fucking 15 runs across the last two games so maybe they you know maybe they dry up you know it's a tough hill to climb at this point though because we had home field there for a second so it's like that sucks.

Craig D'Alessandro:

I checked the score last night after dinner I was like Red Sox lose nine one like again? Yeah, like you thought it was a repeat my living

Dave Clarke:

yeah that's that's like the matrix stage of it. But again, you have to remember where they were supposed to make it this far

Craig D'Alessandro:

no they weren't everything's gravy after this.

Dave Clarke:

But also it's like it's almost worse when you're when your team lik exceeds expectations and it makes you start to think like oh, maybe maybe and then re when you start thinking that they fucking pull that away.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, I mean yeah luck. Welcome everyone missing the point. A Ruby cat has cracked right we're already talking about socks because you know we just couldn't even wait for the show to start talking about it. So we should get into the Red Sox so like like you just saying, bro. I just think this red sox team once we beat the Yankees, honestly it was gravy after that. And then beating the race was just unbelievable. I kind of had on

Dave Clarke:

college I kind of had a punch we're going to beat the Yankees just because of the narrative you know like I just felt like we had the ability to like get in their heads getting the fans heads because you know how Yankees fans are thinking right now like as much as they'll be like oh we want a billion World Series to say well a in baseball especially you Kate count World Series you weren't alive for so sorry. So in our lifetime as like a bunch of 31 to 35 year olds we fuckin absolutely own the so that fan base I think it's a little techy in games like that and especially like do or die situations with us and you can feel that coming through I really didn't think we're gonna beat the race that was just like that was a shock to me

Rob Kelly:

that they're great baseball team they can play the game of baseball like it's meant to be played that played great defense yeah and while extra runs they get that hits when they're supposed to we wrote we wrote momentum against them yeah, that's exactly once the bath got going and as the rays they didn't stop unlike this series of seven game series so I feel like it was a five game series so I feel like once we got hot in that series we stayed hot in the razor much younger less experienced so as soon as we got in there as we got rolling they're like oh my god this scene isn't gonna stop Yeah, it was just downhill from there. The Astros I do feel are different. They've been here before they brag but they have these dudes that have been here they have these dudes that are very keen on whistling have been here but so but it's just it they're a different squad man. And as soon as we blew that game beside me Ray shot have been talking a lot during all this and this dude, he knows this red sox team. I just had to set As soon as they have that opportunity in game for when we had runners on second or third to blow that game wide open they didn't capitalize on it as soon as that happened we knew you know what i mean you know this team it's just the way they the way they operate right as soon as they miss their opportunity to break open a leader game which is

Dave Clarke:

a streak it is for them I think which has been true for the whole season when like once they kind of like they'll ride a wave and I think everybody was just hoping that the wave would continue for longer and I think Ray you're right was saying I mean raise also good for being like we're fucked at like the first opportunity all of our teams however I will say in this situation he did it's like he's pretty spot on.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah it because it's just as soon as they have the gas let out of their sails or the airways or whatever the first thing especially as you know, as soon as that happens no pun intended. This team just takes a downfall man and it just seems like once it starts going to get some they can't get it back. I hope they do. Game six is gonna be tough we got Nate don't know that. That's the most encouraging thing to me is Nick could come out and throw six innings one road 11 Ks a JV absolute nails and if that happens where a business man it scares me back in Houston because that Red Sox team set off that crowd

Dave Clarke:

now see this about what about that point is in the playoffs in all sports? overcoming diverse adversity is the biggest thing that will ride a team's momentum and like we've already overcome adversity once in this in this postseason because the people that were supposed to the guys that were supposed to be performing in that race series were performing and we still were able to pull it out. So you have to think maybe they can climb that mountain because of that. I also will say I saw a little sign in the stars because I looked on the ESPN app today see to see the time what time the Red Sox we're gonna start and it said in California time it was 5:08pm which is my area code for central mass so it made me think maybe something's written in the star side

Rob Kelly:

maybe I want to shout out to the 508

Dave Clarke:

Central mass shout out but yeah i mean i don't know it's the remains to be seen it's been such a fucking weird series that like we could win 15 nothing tonight and all of a sudden like everything's changed I mean I know it's it's tough because we have to go back to Houston but you know, let's see.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, man and it's I do think prepared do I honestly do what makes me nervous so is so you do Kiki Hernandez wasn't going to keep up at the rate he was heading it's just not a he was playing so out of his nine

Dave Clarke:

I mean, our last game for he had like a fucking, he had like an insane like a 600 batting average his slugging percentage was out of control. And it's like, how do you keep those numbers up? You know what I mean?

Rob Kelly:

Oh, for the last eight, is that right? Yeah, you knew that was coming. Right? So it's you have the dude that was literally the anchor of your lineup for most of these games, and it's just not producing at that rate. However, I do think this is Devers and Bogart skin, and I swear to fucking God, if hunter Renfro hasten to another goddamn double play game going up, I'm going to absolutely this tall guy. I'll go to Houston and I'll take this dude down myself because I can't fucking take the saber

Dave Clarke:

again. They're bats. Their bats are hot, man. It's tough. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. We got pleased with smart defense we got to try to like it's just like a stop the bleeding situation in these meetings too. It's like you just can't let them pop off like for four or five runs in a single inning you know what I mean? You just have to manage those scores a little bit better and like you know, I think we're gonna be outside put it this way we're gonna know by probably second inning how this game is gonna go tonight. And it's completely it's going to be pretty clear if it's going to be a repeat of game five or if it's going to be a repeat of game two. You know, this

Rob Kelly:

is out today as a loved one. This gets really excited because I'm sorry.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, I don't understand anymore.

Rob Kelly:

Yes, times the linear concept proves this

Dave Clarke:

point. It's a flat circle. Dude. I don't even know like where I am or what day it is. I've been very

Rob Kelly:

patient. We drove football. It's one game tonight. So you know, so you know what, to Thursday or Monday? Yeah, and forget didn't happen yesterday. Those are like some

Dave Clarke:

of the only anchors or some of the only anchors because I was just telling Bobby for the listeners beforehand. I've just been very busy with work and I'm averaging like 100 hour work weeks, so that's probably why it looks like a fucking recovering drug addict right now. But I also am one second. Yeah. Yeah, mine is the recovering. I I've been so busy, but like it's great because I did get a chance to just sit down and watch football on Sunday. And the fucking bears couldn't just do me. The one solid for just like an absolute dick kick on. A few weeks to just like beat the fucking packers and then not to just not to transition aggressively here but I like have to get this off my chest. It's it had to be like it had to be a Packers loss we're like a fucking Aaron Rodgers moment went viral because he said he still own the bears and like the thing is not No, you know, and it's like, it's like

Rob Kelly:

what do you what are you gonna say to that? You know what? Well, you're a jack.

Dave Clarke:

Well, I'll tell you I'll tell you. I'm not saying we would have won that game. And I'm not a big proponent of blaming the referees when it comes to football. I don't know if you saw the game, but there was about four or five momentum killers for the bears on alone calls like blown calls like Justin fields, his first interception. I know I can see the look on your face, you're like, I don't know, I think I still would have lost but if you had to watch the game of mental support, especially in a divisional game like that, I think Justin fields his interception, his box squirt didn't reflect his performance. His first interception he thought it was a free play because it should have been because there was a neutral zone and a flat infraction, they didn't throw a flag, which is fucking horseshit. Like that's that's should be a free place. So you should just be able to toss it up to the end zone. I get that he's a rookie, and he didn't see the flag fly, but he saw the guy jump and that's a good read. You know, you see the guy jump, the referees don't. So you think Alright, it's a free play, you know, and then he throws a pic that they can't, which was frustrating. He tried to call a timeout for delay again, it took us how to feel more range, and they didn't, they didn't look at him, or they were like looking at him, but they didn't. They just called the delay a game instead of seeing the timeout and giving them the timeout, which is really frustrating. He got his bell rung on a slide and they called a bullshit hold to offset the penalties. And it's like Dude, the whole reason all those unnecessary roughness plays are in the game it's like keep the players safe you can offset that shit with a five year old holding call. Like they don't offset it like once 15 yards and once fuckin five yards or whatever. 10 yards or whatever it's like at least give us five yards and give us a down back. You know what I mean? You can't or whatever sorry. Look, the point is it kids a rookie. He's got a guy who is it's pretty much common knowledge is half a retard coaching. And he's still putting in good performances. Help the kid out. You know, don't call those fucking booth like those fucking bullshit. Like pickpocket fuckin penalties against him. When he's just trying to get a little momentum going. I will say this as much as it was unfortunate for Aaron Rodgers to be basically looking through the camera into my soul and telling me he still owns me. And not know and you know, it's been it's I mean, I started to drive that motor home. No, no, listen, I'm not denying that. Okay. I understand. I've lived in. Okay, I've lived it

Rob Kelly:

as, like 38 and six, something like that. Like I think I

Dave Clarke:

think it's fine.

Rob Kelly:

I think we've only been 35 Yeah, God, not to bring it down. But no,

Dave Clarke:

I know. I know. It's fine. Rub it in if it's totally fine. I mean, I had one moment of enjoyment this football season when we pulled out a good win. And then you had to shit on that by telling me Brian Urlacher was a fucking magga guy. I wasn't even doing anything except for enjoying myself and you just had to wait if and be like, Oh, yeah. Are you enjoying that? Because for the listeners and rlabs going in our group chat saying that when the bears basically got Jon Gruden fire, I was like we've done it. We've defeated racism, sexism, and misogyny. And I was just doing a bit and it wasn't hurting anybody. And Bobby wanted to just wait he waited and I made a comment. I was like people are turning in their magga hats. We've defeated racism and Bobby was like yeah, did Brian Urlacher fucking turn in his so unnecessary? You can

Rob Kelly:

call the doctor for that one.

Dave Clarke:

Like the one moment like it's like, I'm not gonna get a lot of joy out of this season. And you just have to shit on that moment where, by the way, like finally you shit on it. I would just like to claim he won my victory over over Jon Gruden his career. Just officially here on the podcast I'm claiming victory. I did not shut the fuck up about Jon Gruden being an idiot for the longest time I didn't know he was like

Rob Kelly:

a Nazi

Dave Clarke:

but I just thought he was kind of dumb. But then he like then you read his emails and he's like I just think we should be kept separate you know but equal and maybe women should be in the kitchen I don't know what the fucking emails said but it sounded like something like that. He's like email and his wife like money you can you press my Klan robe. I got a big rally this weekend, whatever the fuck he was saying. But I also will say on the other hand, like I don't know, I bet if you saw the emails of half the fuck coaches in the NFL, they'd probably be Grizzly fucking reading. So whatever these 75% of the LS but yeah, I'd say 100% of I 100% of Dallas Cowboys coaches said something racist in an email in the last 10 years. It's like whatever, but it's part of the job requirement to get a fucking and get a job down there under Jerry Jones. I'm just kidding. But Aaron Rodgers was the bears and just to circle back Justin fields is a fucking great quarterback. And like he's gonna be he's gonna be the man in Chicago for the next 10 to 15 years. He's got it. He looks the part he makes plays. He's fastest shit. He's got a good arm, a tight spiral. He makes good decisions for his deep ball. His deep ball. I guess was supposed to To be like his big thing coming in and I think it's he's given that a little bit for whatever reason I think he'll dial it in and sometimes his receivers aren't really doing a favor so there was positives to take from that game for me as a natural optimist but yeah the better router touchdown hurt that fucking hurt

Rob Kelly:

I have to say the bears would be it's unbelievable how evident and obvious it is that their head coaches holding that team back it's so evident and obvious that like a like I hate to break bring up cowboys relationships, but it reminds me so much of Jason Garrett man it really right? Yeah, you said that before? Yeah, it's like he's such a lame duck. And so he gave up are so Matt naggy before last week, gave up play calling duties. Right

Dave Clarke:

right to laser. Yeah.

Rob Kelly:

Isn't that what she was hired for? Isn't that what he is? So he's supposed to be the office. Guru, right? Yeah. So this is the same thing as Garrett where it's like, Okay, show now if you don't call place. Yeah, so it's the Bob's office space came into the Chicago area. What do you do? Right?

Craig D'Alessandro:

What do you do? What do you do, man? Like?

Dave Clarke:

I'm curious. He claps and says, everybody do a great job.

Rob Kelly:

Look out for some clappers, bro. That's what that's gonna turn into.

Dave Clarke:

What you're right, A and B. the crazy part about it is and I knew this wasn't gonna happen. Like I knew enough about Matt naggy and I watched in Chicago Bears football to know that this wasn't gonna happen but on paper what you're saying Justin fields should have been his bread and fucking butter. Right? He should have come in he should have been able to rock the fact that he ran zero back sets in that first game for the entire game makes me think he's never even watched the game well never mind coached it and I just think he's I think he's in his own head. I think he's playing safe I think he's so conservative like that's the thing for me He's so conservative at least laser calls plays where he tries to like dump it down the field a little bit but the problem is even laser sucks a commonplace because he can see the obvious stuff. But on the very last play of the game when we were trying to like come back and like make something of it. He ran a play which was all deep routes and deep curls. It's like and I think it was a Collins where it was looking at and he was like, it didn't give him any time to get the ball out of his hands like it like the pocket claps he had to run and like nobody had even turned around yet by the time he got sacked, and it's like, that is boneheaded. Play calling. You know what I mean? And the crazy part is we have the personnel I'm sure very similar to the Cowboys when Garrett was the coach. We're in our third string running back and he was running all over the Packers. I like him Yeah, and yeah, he's Yeah, he is good. And we have good run blocking we have all this different stuff. We have great defenders, you know, but obviously, it's scheming obviously it's getting on both sides of the ball. That's the worst part. We're always giving up big plays on defense like we'll make plays because of the personnel but we'll always give up big plays on defense because then it's all it's obvious big places. It's the worst part it's like Dude, of course they were going to do that. Like how did you not like defend against that they're just trying to cut they think you guys are dumb because you are like stop it they all need to be fired and paste needs to go to is the thing that's the worst part of that paste needs to fucking go to and like, I'm pretty sure that the owner is senile. And she doesn't even know what's going on. So they might just stay around until I kill them. I don't I don't really know the solution here and like I should I protest? I don't know. I can't get to Chicago, but we'll see.

Rob Kelly:

But so I don't know if everyone else heard but there was another game on Sunday.

Dave Clarke:

Thank god we're done talking about that.

Rob Kelly:

Transition off just for the for your safety. Wait, before I go, I have to set the air Rodgers thing is so funny to me. Because Yeah, better fucking is it? No, not not even funny, though. Because it's like, what? I've been there before because it's like, what can you even say is like, he's like, I own you. And bear says it just like, well, you're not nice, you know?

Dave Clarke:

You're not a nice person, dude.

Rob Kelly:

Like, what do you got it? Anyways,

Dave Clarke:

I mean, it sucks that like an aging homeless man still owns us. It's like, it's like homeless. But I also will say, just if I was to truly think of one retort to Mr. Rogers in his neighborhood, it's that like winning regular season games against the Chicago Bears does not put you in the upper echelons of where you consider yourself. And as far as like, how everyone talked about your skill, your potential and your ability at the quarterback position. Tom Brady still owns you. So I guess by subsidiary. We're both just satellite companies in the Tom Brady Empire.

Rob Kelly:

You know, living vicariously though.

Dave Clarke:

I mean, it's just like you're not even that good, though. So fuck you like yeah, you can beat the bears like cool. The Bears haven't even been that good while you're the quarterback. But I also remember Brett Farve to

Rob Kelly:

solo la flip them up. So he gave him the double barrier brush, keeping the double burden. That's right. He just

Dave Clarke:

said people in Chicago were very nice people. So

Rob Kelly:

as brought that out and as evidenced by the double burden

Dave Clarke:

was really brought that out of him.

Rob Kelly:

So I, I have waited this long it's been 20 minutes instead of shout out, and I haven't talked about my Dallas Cowboys, it works

Dave Clarke:

out great because like, you know, we don't have, you know, unless Craig decides to really weigh in here. We really don't have anyone to defend the Patriots so we can just shit on them as much as we like unless Craig has to like, really mounted defense.

Rob Kelly:

Well, it's it's so so so well hey, hey, hey, before a defense starts I just have to say Dak Prescott is a man. He is on believable map for the Cowboys that go into the new awa By the way, have to beat this guy, but I was there. It was fucking awesome. We're in like the fucking luxury suites. Amazing. Shout out to MPO cars. Imagine a new little town of bend. I know that most unbelief say most unbelievable football game I've ever been to Dak Prescott is so unreal. Man. You said he's a man among boys is what

Dave Clarke:

I mean gender is a construct Bobby, come on. All

Rob Kelly:

right. But so for them to go into a GUI and have to play not only the Patriots got to be that guy but the man but the rescue and themselves. And for them to still come out of there with a victory is just a testament to how good personally I know I'm very biased here. But this is the best cowboys theme I've seen in a very long time. The way that they operate the way that I my guy bras because I'm so excited about the way that they operate the way that they present themselves. How they win the ball games. It's just I don't know. I'm like speechless about it. Because like I'm still waiting. This is kind of a thing we do here. Um, we're waiting for the glass slipper that have to break at the edge of the night. You know what I mean? Yeah, I've been here I've been here so many times, and I think that like I'm I get it never fucking is. But like, bro, this really does feel like here when we're down to points with two and a half minutes left, right. You're like we're done. It's over. only way that we can be saved is if Travon Diggs intercepts his ball and takes it back from six. And then the next day he got down because it granted Yes, I'll play later he gave up 75 yard box, but that's besides the point. You just stick to this point. And it's like it's just what when you want them to do the thing, they do it it's the place to win the game major

Dave Clarke:

as a small counter just for the sake of the show.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

I do think and i was i you know is on record early in the season as citing this cowboys defense as a solid ball Hawk. Confirmed fall Hawk outfit. I know when I see him. I've had them in Chicago, and that's definitely what they look like. And I also know what what its defense looks like when they're being coached wrong, but they have the right personnel and a lot of that was evident in the Cowboys defense last year now and saying that it's the craziest turnaround on one side of the board ever seen. They literally went from being the worst defense in the league to being the best defensively. That's I don't think I've ever seen that because everybody's the same people it's all the same personnel except for the coachee so that just goes to show what was your different day clip? Yeah, he was not good. I know the last year's guy last year

Rob Kelly:

magnoli Mike Nolan not good at it. I told you one of the words defensive

Dave Clarke:

at his job and they're a fun team to watch and it's like hard for me to like the Cowboys because they're very hateable franchise because of like all the inherent you know, sort of weird classism and racism of Jerry Jones but they're fun to watch on the defensive side of the ball for sure. And it's a kind of like who do I hate more situation because I love to see the Patriots lose only because I like to taste the pain of my fellow podcasters through the app and it makes me laugh because I know they were all going like oh Aaron Rodgers still owns the bears and I'm like yeah, but the flock of cowboys on you guys like then it's depressing. Also, we've been doing this podcast we're like about to enter our junior year of this podcast pretty soon. And David shitting on you for being a Cowboys fan this entire time and like the fucking chickens are really coming home to roost here because I'm always very careful about that because I'm worried about sports karma. And yeah, it's it was a really it was definitely a fun game to watch. The Patriots are the most boring team in the NFL right now. By far it's so painful to watch them play football. It's like watching Bill Belichick read the newspaper. That's what that offense looks like. And it's like I don't

Rob Kelly:

lose it and man I went out. So I think it's the coordinators

Dave Clarke:

I do with these guys that can have no business be Be in a does it take fall

Rob Kelly:

but their hit songs isn't it's not even like it's like it's weird guys that he hired that are gripped there his blood he brought them up and it's like he's not bringing in Charlie Weis anymore Romeo Coronel is not bringing in Flores he's not bringing in you know he doesn't have these dudes any right? And I just think it's so evident man because you're Ryan, it doesn't look the same. It really doesn't for the patch they make the mistakes they made at the end of that game. It's the most unpatriotic like thing ever man from the from the interception on the pig sex. Yes, they come back I scored a touchdown in the next play. But then the fourth and three in overtime to not go for that man. Like,

Dave Clarke:

it's weird too, because I forget who said it. But like the fourth and short situations across the whole NFL this year have is so bizarre like he already knows what to do. And I think it might have been to you that said people are overthinking. And I think that's exactly right. Because it's like Dude, you got to just get the first down like, it's remember a few years ago, and I think it might have been Simmons made the point where he was like, hey, how come no NFL head coach knows when to call timeouts. Like just get a kid who plays a lot of magnin and he'll be able to do your clock management for you. It's sort of the same thing. It's like dude in fourth and three in overtime, like you can't give the ball back to them like you got to go for because honestly, you've already had the ball. So all they have to do is get in full glory. And so you might as well fucking go for it. You know what I mean?

Rob Kelly:

And especially against the offense that you haven't come close to stopping for a record, right? So dynamic. cowboys got that ball back, man. I knew like, I was like, Dude, this game was Oh, no way, right?

Dave Clarke:

It's not that's not smart. You know, it's not that's not good head coaching. And, you know, sorry that we're beating up on your pass. Here, Craig, what the problem is, and I think it's something you, the sooner you accept it, the better and it's not I didn't think it was gonna become true. But the sooner you accept it, the better like the magic and the Patriots office. Its name was Tom Brady and an American Century. Come on. I mean, it's true. It's true. And like Bill Belichick is a good NFL head coach, and he's an old timer for his resume and the things that he's accomplished but the magic the magic was in the sauce and the sauce was a Michigan graduate. You know what I mean? It's just the way it is. It's not there anymore. You can see it. You know why? You know how you know, cuz you just turn on a Tampa Bay Buccaneers game and you can still see it. It's still fucking there. It's a different city in a different uniform. It's still there. It looks like that. You know what happens in Tampa Bay. Every motherfucker on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is on their best goddamn behavior. They're on their best fucking behavior. Everybody's doing their goddamn job to do your job shit. That left that took a bus down to Florida and now you're going over for 18 months. That's great. You were gonna say so I'm

Craig D'Alessandro:

just gonna say it since I have to be the token. patriots of Henderson Southern micro Joey here. Not gonna happen. I haven't been able to enjoy patriots game in nearly three years. The last evening last season Brady was here. I did not enjoy a single game that was the boogeyman season and the only joys I got out of that game were blowout defensive matchups where the Patriots defense turns out beat very bad teams their offensive terrible their last the last patriots last two patriots canceled I enjoyed the Patriots Seattle game last year of Cam Newton that was a good game yeah we lost but that was a good enjoyable game and then the Super Bowl what three years ago at this point with the Patriots on the last one that's the last game I enjoyed I haven't there's been nothing to enjoy. This is the last year Brady was that you know the breakup season we all know now and we all knew what was coming in then there was it was basically like the last stage where your dad's living in the basement and you know eventually he's leaving but he's still living in the house. And after that and then after that, no dad's gone gotta find new dad.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, man it's been so

Dave Clarke:

it's if it's any consolation, you can probably call Dak Prescott daddy at this point.

Craig D'Alessandro:

Oh yeah. After Sunday, yeah,

Rob Kelly:

we'll call him down 451 yards

Dave Clarke:

you know i'd say this about the Cowboys Oh Bobby, like every year there's a team that like I call it Atlanta Falcons syndrome, where like they'll win 15 regular season games and then something will happen in the playoffs?

Rob Kelly:

Mmm I don't know Cheers. I would agree most years I would agree i would i i don't know

Dave Clarke:

it's funny. It's funny that we had a running joke about stefon Diggs his brother and now everybody knows his name. If you wish if if if longtime listeners will remember going into last season when we did our NFL previous shows, what am I started out boys. Yeah, I started making fun of Bobby because he was like, I don't think that defense is that bad. We got stefon Diggs is brother and I was like, yeah, Tom Brady's cousin. He's his brother. But now Again he had a terrible season after that and like completely disappeared off the face of the earth but now he's here Stefan things his brother he's having a better season than his brother Stefan days in my face TV has been doing that great

Rob Kelly:

bro people someone came up to or there's a meme going around. It's like someone actually came up to, but there's a meme going around

Dave Clarke:

to people now.

Rob Kelly:

People being like, you know, yo, bro, your Travon dates brother, right? Well, yeah, can you get him to sign this for me? I saw that was like everything has come full circle. I got that. He said so.

Dave Clarke:

The upside to recording a podcast is you get classic lines like that. And then it established itself as a narrative.

Rob Kelly:

Right? Yeah, a year and a half later.

Dave Clarke:

He's like, legit, he's like he's in the top 10

Rob Kelly:

put him in the Hall of Fame. Put him in the Hall of Fame. That picksix happened I literally was running around that plays being like Travon, dang is the best quarterback that has ever lived on the face of the earth like

Dave Clarke:

he's great he's awesome I'll sit and I'll see something else like as like zone zone quarter like that. It's really rare to for like a guy that can make those kind of plays in the zone because oftentimes I think when you find a an elite top five quarterback it's like a madman quarterback who can like stick to guys I think that he has he plays a great zone defense I think that the Cowboys are all really fast on the defensive side of the ball which I think when you play this zone you need to be because they get to their spots really well and the other nice thing and that's how you play it that's how you become a ball Hawk defenses you play this zone really well because you have to hide you have to hide in these pockets the quarterback can see and then you have to go get the ball or you have to be the best tackling team in the NFL to end punch a lot of balls out there oh the 2006 bears did both and I think it looks like this cowboys team is you know it when you see a defense that it's like their job is to go get you the ball not stop the other team from scoring that is the most she'll ever fucking watch. Unbelievable. Yeah, and like I watched I watched a couple of years of bears defenses that that did that and there's nothing more fun than that in in in the NFL. There's nothing It doesn't matter what your offense does all they have to do is be okay and then your offense is good. So it's like it's amazing.

Unknown:

Yeah great.

Dave Clarke:

That's got to stay healthy though.

Rob Kelly:

Hey, yeah, I don't want to I already want to talk about that we

Dave Clarke:

bought immediately starts burning incense we can't put that

Rob Kelly:

into the universe. I don't really want to. So that's it is like even when the Cowboys give up touchdowns at this point. It's more of like, okay, we'll get him next time. You know what I mean?

Dave Clarke:

The other team's gonna score right and it's like it's not cricket that how cricket works on cricket right?

Rob Kelly:

Where do they pop up my Facebook videos all the fucking time I

Dave Clarke:

okay I don't get it I don't understand it I tried to learn it one time and I was like it's like baseball but keep in mind a

Rob Kelly:

chess is longer right it's longer and more

Dave Clarke:

sorry sorry all the people who tuned in for our great cricket takes but not tonight.

Rob Kelly:

What's amazing is like you said it's like when you need them to go get you the ball. They do and that's been what they do all year is like there's been a couple of times right one of my best friends is a Cowboys fan. So like we type certain games and shit and like there'll be a moment where I'm like, we need to turn it over right here. Yeah, and they get it and it's like that's something that cowboys have never done. So I know you said the Cowboys seem like that team that you know seems like they go far

Dave Clarke:

you know what am I you know the phenomenon

Rob Kelly:

I'm talking but I just want to go through so like last year Good dog do that.

Dave Clarke:

They want a shitload of games and then turn out they're terrible that's like the case.

Rob Kelly:

cowboys are not terrible the Cowboys like nothing like the Steelers of last year

Dave Clarke:

I know but like if they lose in the first round of the playoffs and they look a lot like the Steelers last year

Rob Kelly:

telling you Antonio Oh, I want to go through the top 10 teams here so it's a good transition because

Dave Clarke:

oh yeah our rankings I didn't even look at your I didn't even look to your power rankings this week.

Rob Kelly:

So think about what you just said like cowboys don't think you know it could be that it goes one and done right. The top 10 teams sick above who actually think could beat the cowboys and like in the NFC or one on one matches. There's a few NFC teams here is mostly NFC team says if the NFC team NFC is better actually is it seven five it is 556 whatever So anyways, number 10 after this past week the Titans right Titans went in and they absolutely played a fantastic game gets the bills I still want to build blue ends of that game. I'll still never rely on a running back it's nothing you can it's not going to get to the running back He's unbelievable

Dave Clarke:

it was chris johnson so is a Derrick Henry they don't compare with Eric Henry chris johnson chris johnson one of the greatest single seasons of running Mac of all time get the photo camera he's

Rob Kelly:

about to run for 2000 yards and two straight seasons

Dave Clarke:

okay, but that Chris Johnson season was was equivalent to that I was by no he crapped out right after he got paid but it doesn't want it you got to what you got to look back at them. It's comparable. It's fucking comparable. Hey, Adrian. If cover

Rob Kelly:

brokers are on the same team

Dave Clarke:

there's the only reason this cop is comparable because they both ran for shilada yards and touchdowns the both running backs it's I mean people are like apples and oranges you can't compare them while they're both fruit you can fucking eat both of them they both have skin it's a stupid fucking expression. It's not just comparable because they're on the same team that Chris Johnson sees it because I know it was a flash in the pan It was a one one and done thing he didn't give a shit after he got paid. But please do put some respect on that fucking season. That season was not

Rob Kelly:

taken away from that season. I'm just saying it's taught us

Dave Clarke:

Sure, sure, but just like Adrian Peterson just like Chris Johnson just like Who the fuck else has had seasons like this alright let's just say those three guys Fuck it. Just because like I think there's a drop off after that. I can't think Marshall Kurt Warner okay you can't win with fucking running back I'm sorry

Rob Kelly:

my ain't taking him to the ship

Dave Clarke:

I get is not

Rob Kelly:

dude I get it he's he's not but but there's no one else that you can put out. Will you want me to put the Raiders in here?

Dave Clarke:

No, I know I like

Rob Kelly:

they're not going in Yeah, all right. No, no, I get it. Listen, I get it.

Dave Clarke:

I totally get it. I think the bears are gonna have a pretty decent season overall I mean let's see how they do against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. okay cuz we had their number last year so like let's see what No, it doesn't matter the Titans I like the Titans. The Titans are my ns AFC team. You know why Eddie George? Eddie George is my favorite player when I was a kid it was good to air McNair Eddie George Kevin Dyson like the comic blackjack free blackjack like those that offense was was like like I as a little kid you know when you watch a team that's not your team and you secretly fantasize about it being your team's it's so much fun to watch and they were in those baby blue uniforms. Yeah, when I was like yeah,

Rob Kelly:

no, no white. Yeah, the clean white helmets.

Dave Clarke:

Unbelievable. I mean they used to be the Oilers right before that and they were like in they were here they were in Tennessee The fans are pumped. I love the Tennessee Titans. I want to see the Tennessee Titans do well. I it currently costs two, they're not gonna do shit. And if we're talking about in comparison to Cowboys, the Cowboys boom out of the water.

Rob Kelly:

Well, I'm out of water. Right? Okay, so that's number 10. Number nine. This is more of an upcoming they just kind of seem one of mine. But I think it's gonna take a while to get to it, but go ahead. Okay, so number nine the bangles and it's just upside. I don't think they actually have a chance. I agree. I don't think they actually have the chances just from what I've seen in the season so far.

Dave Clarke:

I like that I like Barbara he's with me. Nikki's attitude is cool

Rob Kelly:

he's such a badass he he's rude when he bruises stardom no yeah, is that what it was bruised? Yeah stardom and fucking finishes the game like Yeah, he's

Dave Clarke:

like I I think people thought they were getting Joe burrow when they got Baker Mayfield

Rob Kelly:

he start fucking sliding up. Aaron Rodgers Yeah.

Dave Clarke:

I mean you find your wrist as a fan and not a fan of the Cincinnati Bengals you respect it a little. And also everybody said that to AP when he first started you remember when it was like do you got to run out of balance? And he was always going for the next like three yards. And it was like your career is gonna be so short, bro. And then he went for like a billion years.

Rob Kelly:

Isn't he still no, he's out now. Right? Is he? I don't really know.

Dave Clarke:

I mean, he's irrelevant. So it's whatever but yeah,

Unknown:

it was

Craig D'Alessandro:

the monster though. We got to give them that too.

Rob Kelly:

Oh, yeah, we can move on with Joe. schmo Chase is such a beast man.

Dave Clarke:

Honestly, it's a weirdly likable Bengals team. Probably one of the more unlikable franchises in the NFL. I love ugly fucking dumb ass.

Craig D'Alessandro:

I love them. They are very similar to a brother jumpsuit for a reason. Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

it's like a how do we model ourselves after like a classic Kellogg's cereal? Cookie they look like cartoon characters and they play it looks like they're great. Yeah, exactly. And it's just like, they've also like I'm also in our lifetime like and again like I always try and reference like what these franchises have meant to us as opposed to like historically, and in our lifetime I watched them waste a lot of really talented receivers, which was like upset you know, like just how many great receivers in the 90s and 2000s just wave j Bushman le three yeah who spins out of fucking different tons of guys they were just like Chad Johnson Joe sorry otro cinco just wasted away in Cincinnati just doing nothing and it because it was always like the promise of something under the horizon because you'd think like if you're bad enough for enough years you got a decent quarterback but like they're like the Browns no way they couldn't get one. What I do like birth well they

Rob Kelly:

did get one they just wasted him. He tore his ACL in one year the

Dave Clarke:

bad bad injury though. Tough to come back.

Rob Kelly:

Fucking Steelers. Anyway, so I fucka Hey, hey, yeah, sorry Lee. She's one of our dedicated listeners. Just kidding. I've never ate chargers. I was really surprised at how much of an Aggie late against the Ravens Yeah, I don't know if the Ravens are that good if the charges just laid neck but may adjustment Herbert is the truth. That's the you know any that's why they have a chance. I You actually is a game of chance we're gonna compare against the Cowboys like I said, Do you think that I think

Dave Clarke:

they have a good defense like a good young defense I think they're fun to watch I think I forget about them weirdly like when they're playing I you know they're just not as relevant in my head as maybe they should be they're a good sleeper pick I think we're getting into the range of teams that could potentially be your cowboys team but I think we're still in no situation from a Craig What do you think you think the charges can beat the Cowboys?

Craig D'Alessandro:

I think Justin over holbert whatever his name is. is having a very good sophomore season obviously he was thrown into it after the quarterback for the

Rob Kelly:

fear to virus Yeah no,

Craig D'Alessandro:

no. You started for Houston and he got hurt again so whatever but you know they still Keenan Allen tyrod Taylor Yeah. tyrod Taylor That's right. Charter still a good team? I don't think they're ready for primetime yet but they're very good up and coming team I feel very very good Bori But

Dave Clarke:

yeah, I think maybe next year yeah, I keep my eye on him but you this something about him right now just not quite there.

Craig D'Alessandro:

It's probably Nick bosa for you.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, it's part of it. I mean, I actually I really like the defense that I really do. I do too. Yeah, I mean

Rob Kelly:

30 but for them to lay that egg yes ravens I mean ravens Well, let's wait till we get to the Ravens right? Because it did move them up a spot I mean, that's I can't believe I did that to my boys but we'll get there so that's seven Packers Yeah, I honestly don't feel great about the Packers. However, if there's one bad that I don't want to see facing the fucking cowboys in the playoffs, it is goddamn Aaron Rodgers because let's it as much as he owns the bears. He owns the fucking cowboys to man and

Dave Clarke:

that guy anymore dude. Like honestly, he doesn't like hi Noby. He

Rob Kelly:

will be with 20 I can already picture I just see I'm already stressed because you remember what happened what four years ago or the year DAC when 13 three his rookie year for 226 Aaron Rodgers put an absolute dime and I just replay that in my head so

Dave Clarke:

I personally think and I know that like you know during the during the bears Packers section of this podcast I had to admit because otherwise you're just the dummy that Roger stones the bears because of like what happened but I felt that the bears shot themselves in the foot multiple times in that game and I didn't seem like a quintessential Aaron Rodgers coming at fucking tap that ass performance that one play sure but the most dangerous thing to me about Aaron Rodgers was always that he had he was like a triple threat you know like he was he was super smart at play con on the line which he still is he has a very good game intelligence for like wearing when he throws the ball but also you had to burn a linebacker on him every single play on that or he would end he would probably still be able to scramble you know 1015 yards on if he wanted if the play broke down and he was so good at like recognizing when to do that. And he can't run length anywhere I know again I know everyone at home is going he scrambled for that fuckin touchdown when he told you he owns you I'm like I know but like where fucking was everybody? You know what I mean? Like That was my question. Like he didn't do it that quickly. And he looked fucking reluctant when he first started running he's not at an age where he wants to get hit or slide or do any of that shit. I think and I'm just gonna make a bold prediction now I think what do you guys play regular season this year? Yeah you do right? Not to show I didn't notice right our division plays Yeah, okay, so if you see him in the playoffs if I think you guys will pick them off three times. I like that to be perfectly honest with you because I saw something I don't know what it was the bears couldn't capitalize on it but I saw something in like that

Rob Kelly:

that last peyten year or like that last not quite last year we're like breed not like breeds last year we're like it's not all there. No, but like

Dave Clarke:

closest comparison I can actually think of right off the top of my head it's actually Brett farm on the Vikings. Okay, where he's like still good. But once you get to the playoffs you're gonna see that he's not as good as he used to

Rob Kelly:

be it's gonna start forcing passes he's gonna do always do that it's

Dave Clarke:

not it's not so much a style thing Brett Farve always did that that was just how he played so when his arm went 1% he started getting picked off more like that's just gonna happen. I think with Rogers you're gonna see I mean this is probably fucking wishful thinking on my part. Just as a disclaimer, but with Rogers I think you're gonna see that he just looked like I remember what it felt like to go against Aaron Rodgers I've done it a lot of times and I and for some reason on Sunday again even though we lost I was like no no I'm not that scared. I'm just not as scared as I used to be I think we can do this I really think we I was really fucking confident for the whole game and I know that you know I ended up being this very confident you you had restarted really well spelled out the name for me. I was like, dude, I probably fucking Jinx them to be honest with you. But I was just I was blown off steam and I was really excited. I was drinking beer. I don't know I'm just fucking talking to myself nobody was even talking to me in the group just

Rob Kelly:

take taken from the prime talking to yourself in the group chat dude I'll sit there for like an hour and just send messages no you're talking to me

Dave Clarke:

I know the feeling I know the feeling everyone's like dude we don't care about the bears game of like alright I'll let you guys watch it we're beating the Raiders right now ratio it's like I'm watching the Red Sox. The Red Sox like you and your bears. I'm like maybe one time they'll talk to me if there's nothing else on Monday night I need a Monday night game but yeah, I don't know I don't see it I still think cowboys just keep moving this along. I still think I was over Packers I'm thinking about a game now I got you guys are supposed to buy bread

Rob Kelly:

So next I have I dropped them because that lawsuit against the Titans because the SEC bills you don't mean overreact. Whoa, I did. I did. But listen, I think is bullshit that a team I will never ever understand I'm gonna go on a bit of a tangent here. It is forcing one less than a minute left. And you have a chance to pick a game time feasible. And you go for it and you lose, bro that is on you. That is your fault. You had a chance to extend that goddamn game and go into overtime and win it. And you get stopped on fourth down. And that's it. Game over. And I will never understand that. For my opposite of what you were saying about patriots game though. No, because listen, patriots were on like they're just like the 50 yard line or something like that. brothers did chip shot field roll to extend it like this fucking eight yard line.

Dave Clarke:

So it was like you're saying I agree. Yes.

Rob Kelly:

It's happened a few times where it's like people want so with if the situation calls for it, absolutely go for it for them or enforcement to it when you're not stopping the other offense and they can go down to drive the field against you. Yeah, you should absolutely go for it and not let them on the field. But 20 seconds left, then other offenses and coming onto the goddamn field. You know what it needs are coming out to new the ball to go to overtime. Yeah, you had a chance to extend the game. If you don't, and you have one play to try to win the game. I get it. You want to end it right there. I understand. You think you're the balls you'd have Josh Allen I understand. Sutton kick the field goal man. It's so so good dude related to the Cowboys because that's what it's all about. When Mike McCarthy had that opportunity to extend the gaming czar like hit the kick and we went to overtime guess what happened? We won fucking game and everyone in my booth everyone was like always gotta go for it is Mike McCarthy went for it on fourth and one and we didn't get it we ended up losing again. I would have been calling for his head net I just don't understand it I think he's boneheaded I think goes back to what I said I just think everyone overthink these are the ones and I hate it and that's why I dropped a lot because I hated that decision. I knew the bills we're gonna win the Titans could not stop the bills he knows we're gonna win that game if it went into overtime yeah no doubt in my mind in the

Dave Clarke:

context of this game, I agree with you but I think in the spirit overall what you're saying I don't I think like I think like you don't kick the field goal to tie with like less than three hours you should be able to get three fucking yards if you if you can't get three yards or two yards or one yard even worse you don't deserve to win the fucking game but so

Rob Kelly:

at the end when the game is up and if it's like 2030 seconds so what you're going to go for it right you have this game to get was dynamic shots but to get one or two shots at the end zone and then you're still gonna have to fucking kick the field goal anyway

Dave Clarke:

so again, I think in the constant the context of bizkey I think I agree with you but I do think that like there's certain situations where you got to play the wind the game so that

Rob Kelly:

you think over a minute over a minute because it gives you Yeah, I always give you a full set of downs with a minute

Dave Clarke:

I always get nervous when I'm fucking around and with with less than a minute to go I always get nervous because you've seen so many stitches because like that's why I agree with you i think because about this game in particular because you see so many situations where like teams like aren't good to get back to the line of scrimmage of spiking the ball anymore Have you noticed that? Like they just like can't do it I don't really understand like I feel like there used to be like maybe they used to drill it more I don't fucking know maybe it's like a cloud management thing I don't fucking know but like there's a lot of like dicking around when you need to stop the clock and when it's your team you feel it more where you're going like Jesus fucking Christ stop the goddamn clock like spiked the ball like we need to get back in the game plan this so yeah, I think with 20 seconds left That's tough. I think you got to just you got to just live to fight another day and that situation. Overall, I fuckin hate tying it with a kick and going in ot I flippin hate it. I'm like when the fucking game like you put these when the fucking game but I do agree with you in the context this game moving on so five it's a tough drop for one loss considering the season they're having but okay

Rob Kelly:

well is because of the impressiveness of the other wind so so five that is cowboys I actually dropped him a spot from last week I had my for last week that's because the impressive winning team above that cowboys eked out a game I felt that my opponents

Craig D'Alessandro:

were going to put them higher and I was like Bobby I played

Rob Kelly:

listen I dropped and was in the exam

Dave Clarke:

by the way just for the record we did pass a team in the bills and I know they're coming off an embarrassing loss but they're the team that I they're a team that I think would beat the Cowboys with something

Rob Kelly:

they could get it because Josh Allen isn't gonna well he might think two years ago he would have not maybe I'd like

Dave Clarke:

we were talking about earlier you know you guys played this kind of defense that Josh Allen doesn't stick in the pocket enough where you can start to hide his blind spots and I think that he might be really really well matched against you guys if you saw them in the you'd have to see him in the Superbowl so you know if you saw him in the Super Bowl, I would worry about the matchup more than more than anything it's not necessarily a personnel thing I mean they do have great players it would be really fucking cool to see digs go against digs though. That'd be fucking awesome to see that battle I would love to see like that I'm wishing for that now so like that'd be awesome but yeah, I don't know I think they have they're just so fucking dynamic dude. And I think yeah, that might have been one boneheaded decision but that's a decision board from the confidence of the fact that you can get yards you know, so they're good.

Rob Kelly:

cowboys bills can happen as a Super Bowl because the football Gods will not let the fucking cowboys beat the bills again Super Bowl ish is not in the cards it's just not we live in such

Dave Clarke:

a fun to Ebola. I would really be into that it

Rob Kelly:

would be what was it three in a row? Is that what it was three in a row in the night? Yes.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no the bills last three.

Rob Kelly:

That's one was to the Y wish to or to the cat.

Dave Clarke:

Well, they buddy last three Super Bowls in a row. And it's the saddest football stat in history. It's so sad. I mean, they made it like half the fucking franchises haven't even been to the goddamn show so like fuck them you know i

Rob Kelly:

don't i don't know I've never experienced the Superbowl for my team. Like since I've actually been into football. Let me tell you I was like three in a row and not getting any of them.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, let me say some experiencing a Super Bowl boss never leaves you Yeah, I bet it doesn't even leave patriots fans who saw a fucking billion other championship you know fucking six rings otherwise I bet it doesn't I bet the losses doing that but they still eat away at them do

Craig D'Alessandro:

I remember the two giants losses more than I do at some of the wins?

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, I mean I think about Peyton the blown coverage of paid money hidden Ronnie Harrison to seal the deal in you know six after Hester turret returned the fucking opening kickoff turrets for a touchdown remember that and we hit them with a pick six and it was blown coverage in this in in the flats and it was the worst guide to leave open behind your safety and Manning hit them so easily and I watched all the bears heads drop and I think about that like once a week so count yourself lucky that you've actually never seen a lot of getting there and losing is worse than I've never gotten there I'm

Rob Kelly:

sure that's why you know the football Gods will not let the Cowboys details in the Superbowl for a second time they just won't let it happen. Anyway so number five capitalist listen I've already I've already preached enough on this team in this podcast a comparison so we can just go to four alright so for the Raiders that weighed against the charges was very very razor fucking legit yeah and that's the tight was that I know we said running doesn't do it in December January. This kind of running might

Dave Clarke:

have I told you guys Lamar Jackson was the fucking man. I told you guys. Everybody was trying to everybody was supposed to figure him out this season. What's happening? That's like

Rob Kelly:

bullshit. What feels what naggy is doing with fields by the way because of the fact the fact that you guys aren't writing the fucking pistol formation 95% I don't know how such horseshit I don't know how bro when I saw fields lining up five wide I almost threw my fucking it's not

Dave Clarke:

real I will say this I agree I agree the tough part is we're not constituted offensively to run the pistol that often because our receivers aren't those guys like Alan robertson is like a Robinson is like a go up and get the ball to teach the pitcher pistol to the wide receivers that it is we have that guy we have this guy Mooney who is having a great season who feels really likes and it's for that reason because he's like dynamic across five yards if that makes sense. Like he can get away from his guy and like in the five yard range. Not to go against the bears. It's very upsetting but yes, I agree. Just run the fucking pistol more you know run options more and run run sneakier options they run these boat like you know you know what they're gonna do every fucking time and I I do at least cuz I watch it every week. You know who else watches them every week? anybody watching fucking game tape on? So it's very frustrating anyway, sorry.

Rob Kelly:

I set you up for that tangent. Yeah, what the rhythm ravens are the Ravens are super fun. They're really good. So they would all three teams are all NFC teams to these are a direct point of comparison here. Okay, so Rams number three, the Rams trash the giants, but again, cowboys trash giants,

Dave Clarke:

I think personally. Yeah, I

Rob Kelly:

think cowboys can be drenched because it turns the ball over a few times, cowboys. And I think we torched their defense. I think they're built to get beat by you guys. So so we're gonna move on past that. I like the Rancho in general NSL. Yeah, I like the rains a lot. They have a Yeah. But so what I was going for, yeah, isolate a quarterback.

Craig D'Alessandro:

Now, Stafford guy,

Dave Clarke:

he did my division for like, a billion years. I

Craig D'Alessandro:

hear enough. But I had to go back to tearing my division for a long time other than Brady.

Rob Kelly:

Fair. So that's a good comparison, though. So like you'd hate Oh, does that mean that he was good? Did you not like playing them? Does that mean that?

Dave Clarke:

No, he just shoot it up in the lines uniform every week. So I hit him. And I think that you know, I think it was the most obvious thing in the world that when he went to a team that wasn't the Detroit Lions he was you know, I don't think anyone didn't have that tape last year. It's like pretty, it was pretty fucking obvious. But I think whilst he's better than he was in Detroit, I still don't think he's add that level of elite who be that everyone is all of a sudden saying that he is

Rob Kelly:

he sheds himself in the playoffs, right? Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

I mean, well, here's what I learned about Stafford watching him play over the course of however long he was in Detroit like 10 years. He's a momentum guy. He's a street guy. So if he completes his first three passes, you're in trouble any team and this is why I say they're they're built to lose the Cowboys. Any team that can put that plays destructive defense disruptive rhythm defense, football. turnovers sacks. forced fumbles, even if you don't get the ball back that fucks with Matt Stafford I've watched that fucking Matt Stafford that's why we fuckin owned them for so many years because all we ever did all we had to do was just disrupt them a little bit. I don't know if that's mental. I don't know if it's just part of his game, but it's still true in LA and the teams that play the Rams often are gonna start to figure that out in my

Rob Kelly:

head Stafford you got to decide yeah that's a segue cuz he's always been glass ever since yeah Georgia yeah always been made of glass man you pay him enough he was the perfect

Dave Clarke:

in for the Rams like they have like this kind of fancy boy persona in LA you know and i think that i think he's perfect for them and I think it will be well but I don't see it.

Rob Kelly:

Rams with the white is so so awesome. I love that way.

Dave Clarke:

And I and by the way, I love the St. Louis Rams as the greatest show on turf is like one of my favorite offenses. You know, the beginning of hating the Patriots was watching them then lose to them. So yeah, I mean, I like the rims. It's just I'm also in LA and I'm like a Bears fan and like I'm in LA and I'm like a Celtics fan so it's like an LA team of fuck you

Rob Kelly:

magine see why I hate the Patriots so much.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, I know I lived it. I lived in the US for a long time I get it.

Rob Kelly:

So number two, give them up to the chance to go. Tom Brady in the Buccaneers number two today plays last week data by week right? I think they play box is the box with the button on the box did have a bye week by week right? Yeah, piano by week I'm

Dave Clarke:

surprised to be a games this fantasy that he was fucking sitting on the bench.

Rob Kelly:

That's This Week. Yeah, that's This Week. This week's trading five weeks that's what we're talking about.

Craig D'Alessandro:

They played last week when it was Thursday Night Football.

Rob Kelly:

Oh that's right. They play

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, they smash the Eagles right away and then everybody stopped caring about both of their winnings. That was such a boring game you just knew is a foregone conclusion the

Rob Kelly:

Eagles still got a cover though

Dave Clarke:

they got that back door didn't cover the spread dude I heard a lot of people lost money on that because it could be covered for like no reason right and watch the end of the game even scored right so like half of Vegas was just like

Rob Kelly:

and then the Bucks drove the ball down to the seven

Dave Clarke:

yeah now it's all coming back yeah it's all coming back to me now Yeah. For gamblers so

Rob Kelly:

so we'll go point of comparison again this is very cowboys heavy podcast so listen, cowboys beat the Patriots that happens so I pager said I hope you get it this far.

Dave Clarke:

Suck

Rob Kelly:

got like five minutes to this guy got a shit record record low listenership this week, but listen, we already played them. It was a great game that literally went out to Tom Brady, at midfield, and when we'll see again, if it happens what do you say? It's a great game of cat right? Ah, that's that's a battle. And I don't know.

Dave Clarke:

I mean, it's weird. It's a weird thing. Like maybe I should be more intimidated by the Bucs than I am but like the bears like not that good and we match them last year and like maybe it was a fluke of a game that we play in this week so we'll see forgot how many downs there were I think that's food for the crowd was great that night and that was a big part of it but i think i don't know i'm just less intimidated by them than maybe I should be. And I also think it's a weird season for like those top tier teams where the Bucks don't look quite as good as they did last year in the Chiefs really don't look as good as they did last year because like the struggle hangover is real. But the Super Bowl hangover has historically been true of the winning team sometimes, too. I don't know they don't have that spark for me this year. And I think the Cowboys kind of have that spark so if I was betting on it, if I was betting lines, if you give me some odds, I take the Cowboys like plus 150 I take it, I'd take it I bet that

Rob Kelly:

in Taiji a little bit that money line

Dave Clarke:

where's it I learned it?

Rob Kelly:

Oh, that's a good question. I mean,

Dave Clarke:

I'm not debt free to Timothy's home field advantage because like most of the people they're more concerned with fucking their sister than they are watching a fucking football game. But like if it's in Dallas I would take it probably I probably take it a plus I would take it if possible 15 probably

Rob Kelly:

fucking Tampa Bay I feel about that one

Dave Clarke:

sorry we lost that region. I like to even have internet no so

Rob Kelly:

yeah no i i agree. I would take the Cowboys like game to especially because we already played him once and I think was you know you know what I said cowboys would come in there and at this point we're

Dave Clarke:

talking matchups you know what I mean like we're talking like we're talking that the nuance of matchups on either side of the ball and I think that the Cowboys the Cowboys as currently constituted can can beat anyone in the NFL like the way that they're currently playing I really do think that that's true but it's about matchups. I think you guys match up well against pocket quarterbacks you you match up well against against teams with weapons you know, like I've seen you guys play against these teams that have weapons and you have enough man on man personnel and you play in enough of a good ball Hawk zone that you can, you can probably keep quiet a lot of those Tampa Bay weapons, and then on the other side of the ball, like I'm not seeing that to have a different stopping. So in a matchup situation, I feel like I would lean Dallas strangely, you know, and it would be it'd be a good game, you know, I do think that if it came down again, and I think this is what went wrong last time if it came down again to a shootout between Brady and Dak Brady's gonna win every time so don't do that manage the game better that's all you got to do. You know just don't get into it and it was cool watching Dak do what he did it was cool and it was a great performance. But don't do that against Tom Brady. Don't be Don't you know just manage the game just like keep him off the field as we know historically that's what you're supposed to do if you want a chance to beat in Tom Brady. Don't let him get the ball in his hands.

Rob Kelly:

Right and Russia in Russia

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, I mean that's it again that's easier said than done like the bears gotcha. And last year I've seen the Cowboys get to him a little bit and i've you know, I've seen it but you got to keep the ball I'm saying that's the rule with Tom Brady. So if you can do that and you don't and you it was impressive you know I really was that you guys went for like down to shoot out against them but you were inevitably gonna lose because you can't do that again somewhere even still, even though he's a million years old and like probably feasting on the blood of children to stay on or whatever the fuck he's doing.

Rob Kelly:

He absolutely sold us on that or something. There's no doubt in my mind yet.

Dave Clarke:

There's no way kale is doing this. I didn't even

Rob Kelly:

count unbraid So

Dave Clarke:

yeah, okay, you eat kale, but you should well so you've also made like three fucking shots since we started this podcast.

Craig D'Alessandro:

Dude have mentioned that later. How many nips Have you taken her on the

Dave Clarke:

show? I'm thinking I'm thinking Tom Brady has like an overall healthier diet than you and I but I there's no way that juicing your fucking brains is doing this I concede something's up something's up

Craig D'Alessandro:

since bands dude.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, resistance. He's fucking he's probably importing fucking small Indonesian children and turning them into slurry and drinking their fucking blood through a strange and like arcane system invented by fucking wizards. It's insane. It's fucking crazy. I just want his body to fail and then he fucking rubs it in now to ever since he's not a patriot like the other day as soon as I could probably claim till 50 but I want to spend more time with the family. I'm like, oh, okay, really? Can you Tom Brady? Whatever

Rob Kelly:

he had to he could goddamnit He's unbelievable, man. No, no, no. So I just want to point out though that ever I'm not going to refer you for that we've already dug it enough we have to fake it anyway. So we're not gonna do that again. We

Dave Clarke:

want to score a touchdown against I wanted him to score a touchdown against the Patriots and be like I still knew that we can recover running catch phrase so it's not just Aaron Rodgers. I did really appreciate it.

Rob Kelly:

So number one Cognos only undefeated team. There's what happened last year. I don't believe in that. I don't. I don't I'm sorry. I don't come on. So this is I'm gonna make this comparison. Keep you cuz I know you're wanting to stay haven't

Dave Clarke:

lost the game what's? How are you gonna justify this?

Rob Kelly:

Listen, the Cardinals are like a night of cocaine. Okay? They're okay. No, no, there are points in the game where you're like, Oh my god, this is the best thing I've ever seen in my entire life they're amazing. But then they're also points in the game where you're like, What the fuck is happening? I can't believe what I'm watching like Kingsbury will do the damage shit there's so many things that will happen to you like oh my god that team

Dave Clarke:

that's just all dynamism that they bring to the field man like they're so fucking dynamic like what they're doing what like a lot of what the Chiefs used to do like they're very cheap fast playing the Cardinals game every time it doesn't matter who you are, you're playing their game and when the team can impose Yeah, and when it couldn t a team can impose their will whether or not that some shoe some weird shit goes down from time to time even though I don't think it happens as much as you're indicating. I think if they can impose their will and they can impose their will on everybody then it is what it is you know and by the way Kyler Murray was supposed to get figured out by now to what the fuck happened I wasn't I didn't even believe in him I thought he was too fucking small You know why? Cuz he is too fucking small. He fucking is it doesn't make any sense it did like that Yes I agree with you in that sense that the Cardinals being good doesn't make quantifiable sounds that a lot of waste. But the proof is in the pudding my friend. The proof is in the book and pudding and also we still and I like to still mention this have the worst business acumen in football of the Houston Texas to thank for the Cardinals being as good as they are right now. Because you know, I mean Hopkins and boneheaded trade of the last 50 years like we

Rob Kelly:

lost the NFC Championship game again. What should we do? trade Hopkins for a third round pack?

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, I think I think they were like I think there were one bad night away from the CFO lighting himself on fire in the parking lot in Lewiston and I just think it's like I mean it's I mean we we've talked to death about the the catastrophic down downturn of the Houston Texans but the Arizona Cardinals are the beneficiaries of it and apparently the biggest beneficiaries of it other than like the American justice system when it comes to the Shaun Watson but I think and like you know, basic justice and goodness everywhere hopefully but I just think there's nothing be kids justify it yeah it's weird. Yeah, it doesn't make sense yeah, the math the two plus two equals five but like they win every fucking game they play dude they win every game they play and they and that then offense you know what you know what who else it doesn't make sense to every defense that goes out to play them because they're like wait, I can see it in their faces every time they get burned for what they're going wait for we did everything right I don't understand. So there's no game tape to then bring in and be like Alright, here's what we need to do about against the Arizona Cardinals. Here's what we need to do against them. You tell me we're gonna fuckin do against them because I bet they're gonna have a weird game and lives they're not going to go undefeated.

Rob Kelly:

cowboys. Cowboys, Cardinals 63 to 55 final score.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, exactly right but i didn't i think but again, it's about matchups. And I think that the cartels are built to beat a teammate because they're agreed so but honestly I gave you like seven out of 10 or like seven out of nine that like you would either give a great game to or definitely out in that wind so I think Bill's ravens Cardinals those are your three biggest obstacles because I think you guys are do better against traditional pocket passers. I think you'd even beat the Chiefs right now cuz everybody seems to be able to do that. So fuck it.

Rob Kelly:

read my mind with that question. So cuz we played the chiefs. And that's been for Yeah, we played a T shirt, and it's been a game for the rest of the schedule. I have a screenshot of cowboys quarterbacks play the rest of the year. It will take them to like pull it up, but it's like all under average quarterbacks for the rest of the year except mahomes. And that's the one game I am where I'm like, Man, that's the game where the Cowboys could have trouble but the Chiefs defense isn't gonna do shit against the Cowboys. I can already guarantee you that I think it'd be chiefs.

Dave Clarke:

It will everybody B's cheese new media

Rob Kelly:

It's so weird by the way to fill out a top 10 and and not have you

Dave Clarke:

dropped out of the top 10 pretty aggressively. But that's not your fault. That's their fault.

Rob Kelly:

That is our fault. You know, I

Dave Clarke:

thought we might have gone to the Celtics and so I wore this habit. I don't think we're I think we're out of time. But I will say

Rob Kelly:

Jalen Brown is fucking truth. That's actually his book

Dave Clarke:

Kadima. kanjis team is going to fucking rim like how many

Rob Kelly:

last year Tatum

Dave Clarke:

oh my god and well anyway whatever. I saw some positive signs but we can catch this one on another show.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, yeah, fair enough. You want to take us out I took us and you take us up.

Craig D'Alessandro:

I've been last time we did for a while Bobby.

Rob Kelly:

That's right. Oh shit, everybody,

Dave Clarke:

Bobby is having a child pretty soon. And I want everybody to wish them congratulations and put all positive things out into the universe forum. I'm glad your team's doing well do keep in touch in the chat. And obviously make some time for us if you can, but I don't think you're gonna get a lot of sleep, but your place in the show is obviously always safe. And you know if you need to take paternity leave, please do so in order to bond with your child. But like try to get back to the important stuff as soon as you can which is bullshitting about sports and a podcast with your friends

Rob Kelly:

was she's already got her cowboys ones that he's ready so yeah, don't worry.

Craig D'Alessandro:

You're gonna be so pissed when she turns out to be an Eagles fan.

Rob Kelly:

Oh Bro, I will dis own if there's one team I would disown her for is the fucking Eagles fucking night goes

Dave Clarke:

can I sell you on the bears?

Rob Kelly:

She can beat Alright guys, it's not the guy Jamie.

Dave Clarke:

Thank you all for tuning in. It might be a little while to see Bobby because he's gonna be a busy new data girl dad, which is awesome. But thanks for listening to the show. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome dude, kid we're very excited for you can't wait to see the photos. And thanks for listening everybody. Have a good evening.