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Time of death on NFL Teams / Week 11 Power Rankings

Time of death on NFL Teams / Week 11 Power Rankings

In one of the hardest Power Rankings to make to date, Bobby defends his picks of removing the Philadelphia Eagles from the #1 spot, and which teams between the Kansas City Cheifs, Minnesota Vikings, and Dallas Cowboys were considered for the top spot.

Also, we call the time of death on certain NFL Teams 2022 Seasons.

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Dave Clarke:

Welcome to missing the point, everybody. I'm TK sisal, and we're doing the power rankings. Again, we're recording it on a Wednesday, again. And last week, we were lamenting about how nobody wanted to be on the show. This week everybody wants to be on the bug and show. We're super popular, or the prettiest girl at the prom, or at least the one who gives it up the easiest. Welcome into the power ranking show here. I'm missing the point. I have with me real BK Bob Kelly, as per usual demand, it makes the power rankings for better for worse for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health. He actually was sick last year last week, and he still made it so that's nice. Or two weeks ago, maybe graduate feeling better. I have a Hollywood Rayshawn Buchanan who you guys don't know this, but I've actually spent the last hour with him already due to basketball show. But we're switching gears. And this is the movie magic. So we're talking about football this week. And that's really all that matters. Now ray. So just try to switch over Okay, try to fucking keep up to cheese. And we also have Broadway Joe Malkin, here all the way from the east coast were relatively new, where we talked about teams. So that's helpful. It's nice to have at least one person like really, you know, embedded in the middle of Massachusetts, not necessarily big city boys like the rest of us. So we're here we have all sides. We have all perspectives and what I want to do before we jump right in to the power rankings, Bobby and I had a little chat before we started and I think it's time to start doing some cross offs. It's time to call dead on arrival time of death on a few seasons this this calendar this NFL years so it might shock you my first cross off and I'll let whoever wants to jump in jump in but I think it's time to declare the Super Bowl champion LA Rams debt. They've won three games, and they don't look great. Is anyone gonna advocate for the LA Rams?

Rob Kelly:

Oh, no, it was a cop just went down. They literally have no running game. And Matthew Stafford is looked like an absolute show himself. I guarantee you McVeigh regrets come over. He should have taken that. And II do.

Dave Clarke:

I feel like Matt's ever looked like what I thought he's gonna look like but he did have a hell of a year last year can't take that away from him. He just took a year just took a year. Yeah, but we didn't want to do well that year so I can't you know but he all he was doing Sterling Sterling Cooper cup. I don't know what he does now. I don't know what that team does. That division like Arizona could potentially still win games San Francisco five and four Seattle better than we thought probably fucking up our prediction show stuff. But Is anyone going to try and talk me out of the LA Rams? Can they win this division? Because I don't think they know.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

No, definitely not going to division. I mean that one a few more games, I think just on you know, just maybe because of circumstance but ya know, they are not a good team right now. And a classic example of just going all in and they ironically, could they're in the same city of them. They easily been the LA Dodgers of you know, the NFL so just trying to get all the great players they can on the team and a business will Ballmer last and you know so that's essentially what's going on there. And you know, shops are listening for saying fuck them picks it totally agree. But in the same breath, due to them going all in, they literally have not had had a chance to put together a roster that could still withstand any injury. So when he lose cup and obviously like I said, lack of a running game my bobby mentioned, it was a doom for disaster. And that's essentially what happened. So yeah, there shouldn't be anyone talking to you out a bit outside of LA, where you're currently at.

Rob Kelly:

Right? No one likes rains anyway.

Dave Clarke:

Like whoever is winning here in Los Angeles, let's be honest. It's that kind of town. But listen, unless the transplants like myself, and then you know, you like who you like. But listen, I think we're crossing them off. And since the Power Rankings show we usually just talk about who the 10 best teams are. I think it might be a while since till we talked about the LA Rams again, might be quite a while because like you said they didn't really set themselves up for a rebuild. They got the ring though, and you got to be happy with that. Another cross off. If anybody wants to disagree with me. I know that Joe and barley were hot on these guys at the start of the season, but I would probably call time of death on the New Orleans Saints. What do you guys think?

Joe Malkin:

No. No, I don't I think I think Tom Brady is a shell of himself right now and until proven otherwise, I think the division is open. I think the Falcons are better than we thought they were. The Panthers think it's an

Dave Clarke:

interesting time to go at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We will get to them a little bit later. But it's an interesting time considering they look like they're on the upswing. They do look like they're on the option now that divorce is finalized. He's driving his car pretty fast. That's

Joe Malkin:

That's what they say. Anyway, I think the Panthers are dead in the water, but I think the saints have an opportunity. They still have a good team. They're still dynamic. I won't talk you into either one of their quarterbacks. I won't even talk you into their head coach, but I don't think they're dead yet.

Dave Clarke:

Never a good sign when you're saying either one of quarterbacks All right, we had an objection. So we will not cross the saints off just yet. I'm not going to cross Carolina off just yet. Because honestly, looking at that division, like a whole division, it's so short of anybody's game, and then you could then cross the line off. So let's leave the south alone. Let's leave the NFC South alone for now. I would like to cross the saints out just because I did tell you guys that they're going to be bad, but it's fine. I don't think anyone in the NFC East can get crosstalk you know, I think that the Washington commanders, I think that just by merit of their performance this week, they stay in and they're 500. So you can go anywhere from 500 You can go anywhere from five and five. I'm not saying they're gonna be good.

Rob Kelly:

The last place team the NFC use would be in person to to visit. Yeah, so So fair enough. We're

Dave Clarke:

not crossing them off. Now. This is gonna, this is gonna hurt me. But I will be running this I will be the one objection to this. So it doesn't matter. They're not getting crossed up. You can't cross the bears off and just feels been playing. Just can't do it. I mean, we've lost so many one score games. Yeah, we've lost games because of the referees. Justin fields is the number one quarterback in fantasy football right now he's playing out absolutely fucking out of his mind. Is anyone gonna try and cross the bears off? Because I think

Joe Malkin:

there'll be an as though they'll be I mean, they've lost. They've lost three in a row. They got smoked by the Cowboys, one score games against the dolphins and the lions, the lions game,

Dave Clarke:

but the two teams, the two teams above them. The teams above them are three and six. They're three and seven. Lions between six and the Packers are four and

Joe Malkin:

six. So I think the Packers are going to implode. So I think the bears could very well,

Dave Clarke:

I think not already uploaded. Isn't it already? And I don't know. I

Joe Malkin:

don't think you can say they've uploaded for him six. I mean, I think if they dropped the next few games, then yeah, we can have that conversation about the Packers. But no, I love

Dave Clarke:

Rodgers standard though, don't you like everybody always be fucking at this point is blowing Aaron Rodgers at any given fucking?

Joe Malkin:

I don't know if he has a standard. So I don't know if I want to call it an Aaron Rodgers standard. Alright, we're

Dave Clarke:

not crossing anybody off in the NFC North. That's good. That's a relief. All right. So so far, we've only crossed off the LA Rams. It's the only cross off so far. So that's good. The NFC sort of survived. I don't think we can cross off the Patriots. As much as a lot of

Joe Malkin:

I just want you to know Dave, you mentioned the Patriots first it took seven minutes and 28 seconds. Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

you're right. That's a first for you. So I'm really glad it happened. So I don't think we can cross them off yet. I think they're playoffs. Yeah, they're, you know, they have a winning record. They have teams above them. They're all really good. So they could still potentially come in last but we're not crossing them off yet. Oh, Are we crossing the Steelers off? They don't look great. Yes.

Rob Kelly:

Steelers are cross off.

Joe Malkin:

I think the ravens are going to be flying and I think the Bengals are going to be much better when Jamar treats comes back in a week. Yeah, well, you can cross

Dave Clarke:

the Steelers off. Yeah, I guess we're gonna have to sorry, but Cleveland we got to wait for John Deshawn to come back. Like as much as he's a piece of shit. We got to wait for that right before we don't think so. Official pretty we're gonna

Rob Kelly:

have to, you can't you can't you can't cross them off yet just because of what the rest of the AFC looks like. Like right now. The pats of the last playoff team and the Chargers are right there. And none of those guys have looked amazing so far this year.

Dave Clarke:

Right. I just I don't see that. I don't see the Steelers like actually making a run but there is sort of that X factor for the browns, at least that you can wait for so I don't think we should cross them off yet.

Joe Malkin:

I think the Steelers are more dynamic than the browns. I think the Steelers have more upside and a higher ceiling. Or we don't have to cross the series off. You don't want to I don't know I'm kind of talking myself out of it because I'm thinking of the way Pickens and Kate Pickett have been playing naked. Doesn't look great. He doesn't look great, but he's

Dave Clarke:

super young. Just starting you're right the Steelers have been saved they've been saved. Good job Joe. Joe uncrossed rounds off we're not even having a conversation about crossing our T's in Texas because they're crossed out they've been crossed they're already out there already. I love lovey don't get me wrong but they're gone. Jacksonville anyone know looked okay and their losses and other team has looked okay in their losses. We're not totally out on the QB yet. Let's just let's give it a beat. That's a little bit up to grabs. And then I'm sorry but the Las Vegas somebody talk we got to cross

Rob Kelly:

their crossed out, bro. They're double cross out there. Listen, so I said, Josh. We're doing Friday night I said

Joe Malkin:

though because Because Mark Davis gave him a vote of confidence yesterday. He's staying. That's

Rob Kelly:

always good. So Derek Carr last year, had his wide receiver kill someone go to jail, had his coach be a racist had another guy point a gun at someone. All this turmoil and wet that team to the goddamn playoffs this year. He has Josh McDaniels as a coach for nine years and ends up crying at the podium. Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

there. Yeah, that was embarrassing. I don't know if I'm gonna rise up like do a huge like is still real to me dammit yeah don't do that don't cry at school. Go cry in your car Jesus Christ

Joe Malkin:

yeah being an adult right in your car

Dave Clarke:

that can grind to nothing is nothing fucking sacred anymore All right I think that's all across us unless somebody wants to put a boy guys in raised Russell Wilson trees what some can I

Rob Kelly:

give one? Oh,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

wait. Oh no, let me do

Rob Kelly:

it. Let me give one more one more. I can I have to cross off. You guys can disagree me if you want the guy who says begin seeing the goddamn Arizona Cardinals no are one of the worst coached and worse executing teams I've ever seen him like

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I'm with that, Bobby I'm not gonna play

Dave Clarke:

not only once they're one wind back from from San Francisco. You can't cross them off yet. Yeah, you're by your own standards. You can't cross them off yet. It's just Yeah, I'm sure you'll be proved right. But you just gotta wait a couple more weeks. Right? There's one run of clusters,

Rob Kelly:

the worst fucking coach I've ever seen. Yeah. Besides,

Dave Clarke:

just are we not the Broncos are what are we doing?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Oh, for sure. And I owe you an apology to the show. Like I thought that he would that Russell Wilson was going to be something good to come to the franchise.

Rob Kelly:

I'd forgotten that.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

And they was like, yeah, like I don't fucking know actually, he's gonna be that good. And I was like, What are you talking about? And he was right and so yeah, no rush.

Dave Clarke:

You just gave me the IQ you know? Just give me the Yeah, no,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I totally get what you're getting out play but fucker Geno Smith. Like it's a tough scene or reset.

Dave Clarke:

Credit to peak era which we'll get to. Yeah, but tough, tough.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Tough scene for Russell Wilson. Their season is case holds is over.

Dave Clarke:

I'd be good if everyone in the group is good to cancel to cross off the Denver Broncos. I'd be good because honestly the other two teams in the division are the chargers and the chiefs and I just don't see either Denver or Las Vegas catch them up. That'd be the only division where we cross our

Rayshawn Buchanan:

charges into

Joe Malkin:

Jordan chargers can vote for though. I wouldn't make an argument. I would make an argument Bobby though. Nathaniel Hackett is a worst coach than Kliff, Kingsbury.

Rob Kelly:

Okay. Yeah, it's close. It's close. It's close that the Broncos are the best defense statistically in the entire league. However, they are scoring this I've never seen that's how bad Russellville said they're scoring a meager 14.5 points per game. Have you ever seen a team average only 14 points a game? I'm not not with

Dave Clarke:

a quarterback? Remember remember the end of the Tebow? Tebow Broncos. I feel like they weren't doing they weren't putting up a ton of points

Rob Kelly:

yet, but they kept winning this team and winning shares

Joe Malkin:

and that's why Jeff Saturday was named head coach over John Fox. It was called

Rob Kelly:

I crossed

Dave Clarke:

I don't mind not iron Joe Fox. Like I felt in sucks. That's what I'm talking about. To be honest with you put out well, I feel like the worst

Joe Malkin:

I've ever seen. I feel like any former Chicago Bears coach you're you're just avoided. No. I

Dave Clarke:

love Lovie Smith. He's woefully

Rob Kelly:

underrated. But but he but he's crossed off so

Dave Clarke:

well. He's not crossed off. He'd forgotten at the literal worst. Second, the worst possible situation in the history of football that he walked into. You do not fucking SMERSH Lovie Smith's name for taking a bullet. My bed was not a man of life that could have turned that booking team around.

Joe Malkin:

He's jacked and has a magnificent beard. That's

Rob Kelly:

fantastic. It's fantastic. I love that guy. I'll always love that guy. That little gray shirt. I love

Dave Clarke:

he's also just looks calm. He always looks calm. Like he always say half the time he looks like he doesn't even know that he's coaching a football game but he's like with those wheels are turning. He's like how did I get here? Oh, I guess I'll fucking coach Coach some games. Danny also he built the best fucking defense I've ever since so I love the man but wow. All right, we crossed up two teams in one in one little in one little foursome. That's crazy. All right, let's get on to the power rankings. Those cross offs are brutal. I feel like we're relatively nice about it though. You know, it could have been worse there could have been there could have been some Chicago Bears getting crossed out of action where I I would have had to just set myself on fire. So although a good draft that goes

Rob Kelly:

can I make Can I make a pitch about the bears? I feel like they're gonna anyway so I am so I feel like you You almost want the bears to be crossed off. But at the same time, you can't We can't at this point because I would put Justin fields when he got down top him by himself. So it's like this is literally the best case scenario for it because you're like oh, we have hope we have hope you don't want hope, bro. You know, because you want to trap pick at this point, right? Just just if

Dave Clarke:

you're looking good and losing isn't such a bad thing. I agree with you. It's still not it still doesn't feel great. So I agreed my logical brain says it but I don't know. So we're moving on to the power rankings at number 10. With with all the love in the world, the New York Giants still still clinging on to the power rankings and their and their code. Drink staff, which I think we're all very high on still doing quite well to keep them in the mix. I think we're a very long way away from from luck in New York Giants cross off I think we what we might have thought we were crossing off by now at the start of the season. Also, there might be a little bit of a chink in the in the Eagles armor. So, somebody made me a pitch of the giants winning this division. That's

Joe Malkin:

gonna happen. I'll give it to. I mean, I think they can. I think it's a possibility. I mean, they're only one game behind the Eagles. We saw commander's defense pretty much handle the Eagles offense. I thought that was one of the best coach games Ron Rivera has had, has coached in a very long time and looking excuse me looking at the Giants, their their offense is not nearly as dynamic as the Eagles it's a much more game management offense. I think that defense is sneaky, underrated. I think the Giants can still win away from the Eagles and picked up division. Absolutely.

Rob Kelly:

You know, I It's because the reason they have a It's not logical chance it's not. But it's because of the two teams that are surrounding them are so different from who the giants are, you know, you have the cowboys and eagles sandwiching these two teams and the Eagles we saw last night can make mistakes hurts when he's down makes mistakes. You know what I mean? That they get away from their game plan they do this and that. The Cowboys, for God's sakes, polemic, some goddamn mistakes. Okay, can they fuck up a game real fast? You know, what I haven't seen the giants do so far this year, as fuck up again, is lose a game that that they should have won that they play good and that they that they did all the right things they haven't done so far this year. So that's that's the average, as you see the giant following the same script. And Eagles and Cowboys kind of veer and do their egos and cowboy shit and all sudden the giants are fucking 1205

Dave Clarke:

be the RE be the voice of reason here. There's no fucking way that the giants are going to be no, it's

Rob Kelly:

not gonna happen. I

Rayshawn Buchanan:

don't make the playoffs obviously. But I do. I do think that, you know, game one, you set the tone for them to season, when when they went for we're in one for two, when everyone was angled for the field goal, I'm gonna go for the extra point like that. And Brian did was a sad locker room. I believe in what we did in training camp, I believe in his roster, whether we're young or not, this is a new day, where we're going to we're going to figure this shit out. And that's exactly what has happened. I think that's propelled them off to the season. So that that matters. So that's why he's a coach to the candidate, obviously. So yeah, I actually I don't think they went to Division Two, I think, once again, when you're missing Jordan Davis, the 14th overall pick. That's a big fucking omission on the defense. God dude is that do overs of everything else had Robert Quinn, he opens up things for him for that for that team. So we don't have him on the field that changes things, regardless of what people were saying. I know everyone was waiting for you to lose, if you know, and I get that. But no, what's the job? The giants are definitely gonna say they're gonna win division, but they definitely will be in the playoff picture come week. 17. And, you know, yeah, there is actually one thing, one thing that Brian Dibble is doing up there and he's ramped up for it. So I'm sure there's more to come

Joe Malkin:

2016 Taliban

Dave Clarke:

team I still think they're the best team or the or the worst team of the three like they're worse than the giant or I mean all

Joe Malkin:

baby Sure. On paper that they have the best run is crazy.

Dave Clarke:

Crazy for set for a seven and Tua team. I mean,

Rob Kelly:

don't don't You don't you shame Tony.

Joe Malkin:

I'm not poking. I'm telling you. 26 is healthy and safe.

Rob Kelly:

Oh, for sure. That is this is this the most surprising thing about the most surprising start to a season that maybe we've ever seen, or at least in the last 20 years? I want to say at least in the last week. Can you can you remember 2017 This hot?

Joe Malkin:

No Jaguars. Yeah, the 2017 Jaguars was more of a surprise. I agree with Ray.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I'm gonna that's the first lesson as the first one that comes to mind because it wasn't even last year Bobby. The Bengals came out of nowhere no

Rob Kelly:

one saw that comment but would you would you put money on the Giants even having more than six wins? No. No I did today. One more. One more for no in there seven to seven and scoop. Yeah,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

once again. Game one changed everything.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, a great a great.

Dave Clarke:

All right, moving on. We're gonna talk about the number nine Titans and how they're still kind of a really weird team with a winning record. I don't I don't if we're in the in the starting to get into the phase of the season where we're talking about real contenders to go deep in the playoffs. I don't think that the Titans are that I don't think that they have the kind of passing game that you need to really compete even in the early rounds of the playoffs against the teams they're going to come up against. But if somebody wants to talk me out of it and explain to me maybe it's a variable thing or Maybe it's it's fucking we have an unbelievable running back and Derrick Henry think the miles are going to start to add up on him and I could honestly see them finishing under 500 This year like i It's not out of the realm of possibility so as far as contenders go as far as we're I wouldn't even say contenders as far as teams winning records go they might be the worst one and if somebody wants to talk me out of that, that's fine but I just I don't know I don't know if they're we're talking about that much just so

Rob Kelly:

the only thing with with variable is I feel like variable is the prime suspect for like, you're you're having a bad day. We might have a bad day but guess what, it doesn't matter. I'm gonna whup your ass and we're gonna beach anyways. He just he takes teams that were he competed with I mean I guess it's less impressive now at this point. I know it was the Chiefs more impressive now he competed with the Chiefs got him a week Willis quarterback I get us the regular season and I get to the playoffs are a different animal but the one thing I could see the Titans doing is surprising someone in that first round you know that for who who would be like the fire four or five they might

Dave Clarke:

be right angles say

Rob Kelly:

I could see I could see I'm just like if you're the best not going to the Superbowl

Dave Clarke:

but like accelerate right now we take right now and nothing crazy is happening we accelerate to the end. And if you're the Bengals and you're like looking at who you might see it against in the in the in the playoffs like when you when you get in. You want the types of all the of all the division winning teams like you don't want the dolphins. You don't want the chiefs. You don't want the Ravens you want the fucking titans like 100 percenter. Yeah. So I just I just think like, we're up for the drunkest NFL starts with season ever I get that we're at least being molded the perfect boobie team for the first round of the playoffs like Mike variable can make career going out of the first round the flippin playoffs at this point, you know, like he's, I'm not saying he's bad coach at all, by the way, above average, but I think that the Titans are in a similar situation. Maybe not as winning as the Vikings where it's like well, we thought what's going to happen when the fucking rubber hits the road? Right? Like your guy's not the guy. So unless all of a sudden the NFL changes and you're running back and be so good that you want to serve all I I just don't see it. I'm just not that excited about it.

Joe Malkin:

I think the biggest thing of variable is he's an above average head coach, but they don't have the roster to compete right now. And they're gonna make the playoffs because that that division is wretched, but they also haven't beaten anybody and they probably have the worst strength of schedule, down the stretch. I mean, they lost

Dave Clarke:

in the sea and they could they could literally finish under 500 Potentially and still win that division.

Joe Malkin:

They lost to the giants in the bills, they've beaten the Raiders, the Colts, the commander's the Colts the Texans belongs to the chiefs and then they beat the Broncos. The remainder of their schedule is the Packers which is probably a win because the Packers are in shambles. The bangles which is probably a loss the Eagles which is probably a lost the Jaguars when chargers lost Texans when cowboys lost Jaguars win. So I mean, they're they're gonna be a he

Dave Clarke:

could also Lebanon teenage they could lose, they couldn't do so that's like, but they could be a

Joe Malkin:

10 to 11 Win team and they could be the worst enemy 11 Win team in the league.

Rob Kelly:

They were the worst. Well, they were the worst one seed we've ever seen last year. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. So So looking at the teams that almost made it is there anyone so this seems to be the team because we all kind of agree the Giants been in the top 10 they've had that the brand of football they play they belong in the top 10 The Titan seem to be the team that that could have been left out here right? I would honestly have would you put the patch bangles Seahawks or chargers over them? I will put the Bucks everything. To be honest.

Joe Malkin:

I would put the Seahawks possibly over the Titans and move the Giants tonight. I mean, I think your Power Rankings are fine the way they are. Because of how these teams are built. I wouldn't get a chance in there. I would absolutely put the Patriots in there and I think Ray Ray would agree with me. I would go with the Seahawks and then the bangles and then the bucks. Dave's right the bucks are probably on an upswing, but right

Rob Kelly:

now it's almost made just the Bucks we're we're very close to being but let's say close

Rayshawn Buchanan:

in two weeks there'll be on your listeners and we'll get it Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

I made this car a couple weeks ago on the show Bobby didn't believe me I was he was like, What do you think like translates during the season around? I was like Yeah, dude, I think this list is gonna look a lot more normal by the time

Rayshawn Buchanan:

just right. Just a quick aside on that the man is second and you're just like

Rob Kelly:

it was I don't think it was a surprisingly What do you think Tom?

Dave Clarke:

You're 100% Like I don't know like none of the foot your whole point was like none of the fucking teams we thought we're gonna win. I was like, I think this is going to sort itself out though. Like I think Tom Brady papers and figure it out in 20 2800

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Guard So touchdowns

Joe Malkin:

two picks

Rob Kelly:

is going to be on that. I'm better without you five because Sherry got some good news. So right he's sure.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Exactly. And he is about to be a watch this tour, starring Thomas spring. The rest of

Dave Clarke:

us didn't look like he slowed down to me be honest with you like

Rayshawn Buchanan:

this was some Jayson he started out for sure. But the run is coming. I'm telling you that right now you can book it. The run is definitely coming. He's about to catch fire. So the I will switch to that. That's what it was about. I don't want to get carried away with what's going on. But I would just was not his head. I will put the Giants at nine and have Tennessee at 10. Once again, they did it. I know they'd be done verbally. Yeah, that's all they would do. Like none of those seeds. The other the other three teams were outside of the top 10 for a reason. You know, once again, Tampa Bay just beat Seattle. Like they just beat him. So I just think to me, those those that

Dave Clarke:

I will also say it takes a lot longer to get to Munich from Seattle than it does from Tampa Bay. And so it was a little bit of a tougher tougher.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Sorry. All right, if anything, the biggest gripe is how the field they played on.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, I mean, they're probably not really equipped for the National Football League. They're in Germany. All right, whatever. We're trying to go international. We gotta move on to the 40 Niners here. Yeah, I think what was the stat you were telling me earlier Bobby? Jimmy Garoppolo is the only QB what now.

Rob Kelly:

So Jimmy Garoppolo in games where he has not thrown a touchdown pass is is tapped into. And that is that is the most Jimmy boy Hello staff

Dave Clarke:

today. himself the Luckiest man,

Rob Kelly:

and he plays like absolute dogshit. His team wins.

Joe Malkin:

doesn't mean he's playing like I don't I don't. And now he's got CMC and he doesn't need to throw a touchdown pass. I did just notice and it just clicked in my head. But the 40 Niners eight and the Seahawks are outside of the top 10 The Seahawks are game a half a game better and leading that

Rob Kelly:

power power rankings not powerstate Uh, you're right.

Joe Malkin:

We always preach that I just, I just looked at I think that I agree with you. I think the 40 years are a better team.

Rob Kelly:

And you look at you look at what they added. So when I said the CMC being added to Jimmy G is a porno for Jimmy G's style quarterback like it couldn't be better for the PERT the fit between Jimmy G and CMC. I mean, I guess it could be better if Jimmy G could, you know, throw the ball, but

Dave Clarke:

I was gonna say GG literally any other quarterback I might have.

Rob Kelly:

I just I I just believe in this team. That was Shanahan the longevity that he's had there. The way that he uses, you know, his running backs that defense defensive line. There's just so many things to like they're you know, they haven't played up to the potential to score 22 this week. They almost got taken off because of that one, but I can't ignore CMC IU Elijah Mitchell Kittel debo, you can't ignore it? Well, I

Dave Clarke:

mean, I think if you stripped away the records right now and laid them all out on paper, every team in the NFC West down on paper, I think the one I want on both sides of the ball is the 40 Niners as much as as much as like, you know Jimmy Jimmy gcmg? Sure. I hope he stays healthy. I hope CMC stays healthy, but you're just naming this cast of characters with it's a fuckin absolute plethora of weapons. They don't always play up to their potential but like I do think Shanahan is a good coach. And I do think that the Seahawks six and four is gettable, it's a little bit of a soft like division leader record. I think the foreigner has won this division, to be honest with you, I find it and I think they're probably gonna win it convincingly. I think they're gonna win it by like two and a half games plus to be nice.

Joe Malkin:

And just remember guys, when Jimmy G plays a full season, he goes to the Super Bowl.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does. Both. All right. Well,

Rob Kelly:

I think Geno's coming back there. That's what I have to say about the West. It's inevitable that he's coming back. Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

I agree wholeheartedly. I also think you're right about the Cardinals. Like there's so flawed. I think there's a lot of talent I think Kyler Murray's talented I think the hops obviously fucking unbelievable but there's so flawed like

Rob Kelly:

that's so bad. That's how you know there's an issue when t hops walking off the field working at kioware go, bro, what are you seeing? What do you do with DeAndre Hopkins is looking at you asking you what you're seeing like,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Oh, he's he's he's five one. It

Joe Malkin:

doesn't matter. Kyler Murray Kyler Murray's a mess. He's not

Dave Clarke:

here. You can't blame Kyler Murray for this. Come on.

Joe Malkin:

He doesn't take coaching. Well, he doesn't receive the coaching. Well, we heard her

Dave Clarke:

saying great coaching that she might take.

Joe Malkin:

If you don't think he's in the NFL, we're not talking about a college kid. A high school kid going out and slinging it on Friday nights. We're talking about an NFL quarterback,

Dave Clarke:

NFL quarterback who's being coached poorly I mean And well,

Joe Malkin:

more, or is he putting the time in? We don't know.

Rob Kelly:

I think it's both. I still think it's both. I honestly do. I think it was I think Tyler's Kyler. And I don't think ever going to change who he is. It's very documented the correlation with June Call of Duty and his plan, you know what I mean? Like that's an actual proven statistic. And that's not a real NFL leading quarterback that you want. Also. Kliff, Kingsbury has never had a winning record, at any level of coaching. He's ever coached that so this, this, this isn't like,

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, but I mean, like when you have, like, you just set it all right there. They're like when you have a kid who like might have his priorities straight, like part of your job as a head coach is to come in and get his fucking priorities straight and get the best out of him. So like, just because you might put why he's not performing well lower on a list of prestige for you like, Oh, I'd rather he played shitty because he was like, sad about the war, or I don't know, whatever. Yeah, so he plays too much fucking call of duty. He needs a good fucking head coach to come in and be like, stop fucking playing Call of Duty. We're gonna get the best out of you. You can't blame him for that shit. Like he's still young. He's a kid for crises.

Joe Malkin:

Yes, you can do really good at it. But that's the thing is you can absolutely blame it. You can you can but if you put it on, it's not their employees, the dudes getting paid millions of millions of dollars.

Dave Clarke:

So you're saying if I owned a company, right? I owned a company he's never had a successful company ever. He's literally never had a successful company his entire life. You're gonna walk in and be like, I don't know man. That assistant manager over there I think he's the fucking problems like yeah, he's gonna

Joe Malkin:

say they're not but who's to say they're not both the problem but you can see that because you can

Dave Clarke:

vary to a long and storied history of Cliff, Kliff. Kingsbury fucking sucking Kyler Murray good plays well when he's putting good environments like I'm talking I'm like look at the resumes man Sure, but But what you're gonna write off Kyler Murray you're gonna write them off now just say it on the air put it on, put it on audio Bobby. Call of Duty right off fucking Kyler Murray you don't think that a good head coach can come in and get fucking a ton out of Kyler Murray you haven't seen shortly. Well, I do that's crazy.

Joe Malkin:

But he also should be self motivated to get off his ass and go go put in the extra work.

Dave Clarke:

Oh man. It's a little Get off my lawn

Rob Kelly:

if I think is demotivating if I'm being where it is at this point where we're Kyla looks at Cliff you saw it and that Thursday I came. He looks at Cliff goes this motherfucker. This motherfucker doesn't know shit. He doesn't write that and, and I just feel like I was like, Don't he's done with Kingsbury, man. And I agree. Kyler does have

Dave Clarke:

Rodgers head coaches and he has never fucking Aaron Rodgers his fault. So I don't understand why we're using Aaron Rodgers as an elite quarterback. He's won one Super Bowl.

Joe Malkin:

He's like he's won two MVP.

Dave Clarke:

But he's also bitched at Highlands situations multiple times and you don't keep that same energy with him. You don't so it's like

Joe Malkin:

because Kyler Murray is not he's not an elite quarterback.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah, I agree with that.

Dave Clarke:

I'm pretty sure he's elite on talent. I haven't seen it yet. Well, you should watch him play more. He's fucking sick.

Joe Malkin:

On the west coast.

Rob Kelly:

I just didn't know. He had pretty

Dave Clarke:

sure satellites broadcast everywhere. It's accessible.

Rob Kelly:

Callers caller sick, but at the same time, he does the stupid shit I've ever seen a quarterback do at times. It's really

Dave Clarke:

easy to get a coach listen, if you bulk it's the most obvious like a good coach situation I've ever seen

Joe Malkin:

what really has that good coach and shows that he's elite. I'm gonna have different energy and won a Super Bowl and not have that energy with with the little munchkin in in Arizona who hasn't shown that he's elite. He has not shown that he's elite. And maybe that's the coaching is you're not sure? Dave I have a synergy with. I had this energy with Tannehill Tannehill went to Tennessee and completely changed his game completely rejuvenated his career. So yeah, absolutely. Kylie needs a better coach. But until he gets that, which he doesn't have right now.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, but I just think I just think to level to level this criticism of like, you're like you take a young quarterback who's clearly being wasted in a system nobody could win in under a coach that nobody has won with. And you're putting all the blame on him when it's like he's never like, you can't criticize a guy that's never wasted an opportunity. Like it's not as if he's pissing away this great fucking system that he's been put put into, he's clearly just in a shitty fucking situation. And he's still winning games from them for for them for from time to time because he's like, literally sick. And you're like, I'm so mad at this dude for wasting the talent that he has in the field and I think it's just boggles my mind that you guys are like, Oh, this young kid acting like a young kid. He sucks fuck him for this like grown ass man who's like just thinks he's getting paid a shitload of money whose job it is to put give the kid the ability to succeed. Look, if you get the ability to succeed and you fucking piss it away. That's fine. But like, clip Puckett Kingsbury, man, can you break great but we haven't

Joe Malkin:

seen So you're right. I don't we have seen that point. Yeah. I don't disagree with you on Kingsbury. I

Rob Kelly:

do dislike. That doesn't mean Kyler has really shit body language at most. It's awful. But like get it guys, but like it's a product of your environment. So I just think we're all I think both sides lose and until I just think

Dave Clarke:

it would be a wild thing to Cardinals aren't even on this list. Yeah, but I mean, it's an interesting conversation regardless, I just think it'd be a wild thing to be on record. Right now. Fucking Kyler Murray, because he puts too much Call of Duty like at this point is nobody but you can kind of seems like yar it sort of seems like yeah, it seems like

Joe Malkin:

it just didn't walk in and have that energy with with Mike McCarthy the moment he took over the starting John

Dave Clarke:

Rogers has been fucking terrible with like every coach he's ever had.

Joe Malkin:

I understand. I understand. That's his energy. But he but he wasn't that way immediately when he got the starting job. Cuyler Murray has been that way since he came in.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, but you got to like just put a put someone in a situation to go motivate him like he's talented. Like there's a Derek dereliction of duty going on here. Kyler Murray goes out and plays fucking quarterback every week. That's what he's supposed to do. Like, it's all fucking dumb speculation where it's like, oh, he played too much quality. Oh, there we put this thing in his like contract to watch more tape. Like, it's fucking stupid. Quite frankly, if I'm being honest. I think the reason why he's getting this fucking criticism leveled at this specific criticism leveled at him in the national media because it's not just you guys. It's because of the style of quarterback that he is. He's young. He's black. He's fast. I just think like, if he looked like an All American and played like an All American, he would be getting a lot more fucking leash. That's all I'm saying. And I think there's an obvious fucking person whose fault this is. And it's like the grown fucking adult who's supposed to be like forming a fucking real game plan that someone could win it. That's all I'm saying. Because like, I think Aaron Rodgers got more leash on it. Because he looks like Aaron Rodgers. That's it. Kyler Murray wasn't all American. Just gonna throw that out there. Yeah, but I mean as far as like looking like no American if you know what I mean. You gotta pick up read between the lines there Jeff.

Joe Malkin:

Oh, because he's not tall and white.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, cuz he's not tall what you think that doesn't affect people's perceptions of things

Joe Malkin:

what you did national media. I just want to say that you compare this to national media and I really

Dave Clarke:

said it wasn't just you guys, but quite frankly, gay might be informing your perception on the case they might just say it might be some look at not mine. I don't think anyone would have

Rob Kelly:

to watch other cards. It's just too much on

Dave Clarke:

anyone's gonna admit to it, but I just think it does. It does inform perceptions a little bit. Alright, moving on to speaking of speaking of awesome black quarterbacks were on the fucking Lamar Jackson. Whoa, he's doing great. But people were fucking quick to blame him for the losses that were definitely not his fault at the start of this season. So How's everybody feeling about the Baltimore Ravens they're out? I'm feeling really good about them. I genuinely think I'm going to declare that my Dark Horse team, I think that they have the best chance of winning a Super Bowl of the non traditional teams that we're talking about the Eagles, the Chargers or chargers Jesus Christ, if only the Eagles, the chiefs and the bills. I think they might be a little bit of a sleeper. Anybody want to talk me out of the Ravens? Are they inherently flawed because like Lamar Jackson is a beast, I'll talk you

Joe Malkin:

into him, but I think calling them a dark horse is a really weird turn of phrase with what we just talked about. The ravens are a very made it weird team for sure have the best kicker of all time. They have a top three tight end if you can get healthy and get on the field. They have a top 10 quarterback in the league I truly believe. I truly believe that he is a top 10 quarterback in the league. I think Harbaugh might be a little bit over the hill. I'm not totally positive yet. Dez

Dave Clarke:

coach like he coaches like a coach guy,

Joe Malkin:

and they have a very good defense. Patrick queen is absolutely incredible. I just think they have a really good football team. I think they're underperforming. He's a beast. Yeah, I think they're underperforming and I think they're gonna hit their stride. Kind of like you think with the box. I think these guys are gonna hit their stride. Coming up here pretty quick.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, definitely in that division, right? Anyone? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, though, when?

Rob Kelly:

I, yeah, the upcoming schedule so that you're 100%. Right. They're about to hit their stride because their next six games are the Panthers, the Jaguars, the Broncos, the Steelers, the browns and the Falcons. So the ravens are literally going to win every single one of those games, they should at least show I gotta be favored lobby. They're going to be favored in each of those games. Listen, Walmart is the most dynamic player outside of Justin fields the last few weeks in the NFL, and there's no doubt about that. You know what I mean? And I don't know if that style of play can advance into the playoffs, but I can tell you one thing. If there's one guy I have faith in taking that silo play to the Super Bowl is goddamn Lamar Jackson. Because he doesn't just do it with the legs. He does it with his arm. He He doesn't

Dave Clarke:

want to trade this year with every aspect that a lot of this stuff that people were criticizing him for. And I think if you're really laying that same energy out in this season, I think he just been a fucking hater and Ray you're really one of the first to say this at the start of the season so you as much as you had to admit that Ross wasn't didn't do as good as you thought you should get a victory lap on Lamar is here because he's thrown the ball like he said he was gonna

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, I mean, it's it's long overdue. I mean, obviously it's shades of the MVP season that he had back at 2019 He's a special special talent and you know, he's special on the ground. He's got a special all in, you know, the air so I'm really on the air in the air, I should say, excuse me, so yeah, they have they've, you know, they've been playing with football run run the ball well, obviously that he had more of a passing game, but I think they gave Mark Andrews back this week if I'm not mistaken. So you know, just adds another dynamic to the offense as Jim alluded to, so he

Dave Clarke:

even with the injuries like I feel like Lamar made

Rob Kelly:

good man. Yeah,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

for sure. By me, I mean, and this is a security blanket. He's the guy he's the martyr they taught to hate for them your SNA dropped for those who don't remember Todd he

Dave Clarke:

back everybody remembers Todd he

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yeah, you know I I would hope so. Yeah, but yeah, I just think that that he hasn't he has a different dimension to that offense. So

Rob Kelly:

who is the other Baltimore Titan? Dennis Pitta Dennis. Oh,

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Jazzy. I just heard Yeah, yeah, that's the one Yeah, yeah. It's almost like someone's like Oh, put it for president so yeah, the fan favorite down there. But yeah, so yeah, I think that's it. I do think they are asleep or team to win this little boy and going in at the least. Oh, you know, go for an AFC playoff picture.

Rob Kelly:

I think one underrated thing about this team right now is ro Quan Smith. As you know him very well. DK that addition to that defense was just it was next level you saw in that first game how much better that D looked? So he's such a big

Dave Clarke:

somebody who could go make plays and he needs someone to go make plays the rights. And I think he always was that guy. And he'll continue to be that guy. You know, I made the point to you last week, Bobby that like, if you go from Chicago to Baltimore, like you're not, you're not leaving, like a very different defensive DNA culture to go to this place. And I think they're thrilled to have him I think he's perfect there. And honestly, I'm happy for him. And I just really like watching them play. I really like watching the Ravens I think they're my favorite team in the AFC to watch play this year other than probably the Chiefs but that's a boring answer. But they are so fun to watch. They'll say yeah, I mean, I like the I like the Ravens. I like to see a team in the NFC North industry. Well, at least again this this next coming Super Bowl, but I guess we'll see. I'm glad I'm glad we're all in agreement on Lamar Jackson. No, nobody's going like now he sucks. Like it this way you just fucking factually doesn't say look, I'm glad we're there. We don't have to Skip Bayless. Yeah, right just to dot I honor any Hill forever Bobby tough fucking loss against the goddamn packers of all fucking teams. Man. You should have hose them. What happened?

Rob Kelly:

I don't know. I remember there's actually a few different things happen a we can't stop the run. That's been the crux of our great defense. The last two years is like certainly

Dave Clarke:

guys that should be able to make plays on the run though. So it's

Rob Kelly:

it's I don't know what it is. I feel like it's the aggressiveness of the debt gank coin style where you know, we get so caught up going one way that that zone run scheme just gets us going the complete wrong way where I don't know what happened and that loss stunk. I gotta say, that was just I was really sorry, that was a stinky, so we're up 28 The 14 and the the Christian Watson over the top on on Anthony Brown was just inexcusable. And then after

Rayshawn Buchanan:

he's looking terrible. I'm sorry. It's awful. He's like, Dude, he's off.

Rob Kelly:

I've been calling for Anthony Browns head for like two years now. But then, but then so then the offense got lazy. And CD ran bad routes, and people complained Dec all they want it wasn't that fault CD, random, bad route. Schultz ran a bad route. And that's why there was that terrible interception as soon as it was 28 to 21. And the Packers got the ball back. I knew what the fuck was about to happen. I'm not stupid. I've seen this script so many times. Err, Aaron Rodgers lovers is eight and two against the Dallas Cowboys. And we had this guy on the ropes and we had a chance to prove that this was a different year that this was a different squad that this isn't a team that's going to make those mistakes when it comes down to it and they did they did the same shit

Dave Clarke:

they did last year hasn't come down to uh yet let's know.

Rob Kelly:

I know but like that's a big game and that's a big loss right there and and for them to choke like that. And for the ending right with McCarthy not kicking that fuel goal. I get it. I know that the whatever the fuck your analytics, all that shit. All right. You literally just proved exactly what everyone was saying about you were your only flaw to the rest of the country. And then As the game management of this team, and that's the fact of the the when the momentum for the Dallas Cowboys takes to step back, they can never fix it and take five steps forward, ever, ever, ever. And it just seems like anytime is two steps back a six step back eight setback 10 steps back. And all of a sudden we're sitting here and I'm Washington Mason Crosby kicking off the goddamn game when

Dave Clarke:

it comes down to me though, to be honest with you, like I think it should be on him a little bit to pull them out of the fire when when he's in those situations. I think he's got he's got the running game to do it, you know, to take a little pressure off him throughout throughout the game and through a really inconveniently timed interception in that game, and he loves like the word to throw interception at the worst possible time. Like, we did agree at the start of the season that this is like DAX Do or die here? I'm just still not convinced. Right? What do you think?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

But every index to a dire

Dave Clarke:

I mean, is it his fault? Am I Am I jump into blame? Or is it just the cowboy has been the catalyst?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

It's a little bit of both. Honestly, I think that you know, you'll when they do this themselves on a consistent basis, unfortunately, and once again, it's not personal to you, but this is about my family has done their Dallas. I love it. I love it. But I do want to say it because my dad's help center bought it to me, my older brother down there talks to us about it to me, Mark was down there. And it's like, Hey, guys, it's okay. They young, it's the youngest guy, the clan is head, it's here, it's here for more support. But Oh fucking Well, this is 25 years and counting. You know, I had two good legs, the last time the Cowboys won the Super Bowl. And now Now I don't and they just don't not going to win it. But I just had to say that. But to answer your question. I do I do. I do think that it is a mix of both or so between just how the Cowboys are and then that's a day when you're paying back the money you're paying them. You know, at some point now this is what this is your six year summit for him like, you have to be able to get your team in position to win that game. And once again, you're up 2428 14 It was up until you have 2814. So you're telling me at that at that you can't get another physical to be unfortunately that changes everything in that moment. Not Forget about getting to the oldest I'm saying like just even for that like finding a way just need to get down the field. You know, he hasn't committed the offense by now to run something different if he needed to. So yeah, I do think some blame needs to be on him. But also Yeah, Mike McCarthy, you once again, you have shown who you are time and time again and greet, you know, the quote, The Great Maya, Maya Angelou, you know, when people show you who they are, believe believe in. So that's just what it is. He's he's he's not he's not he's not the guy that should be leaving any NFL team 2010 A long, long, long, long, long time ago.

Rob Kelly:

Right. Can I just tell you why I really don't think to the syntax vault. And regardless what you say I'm going to so it's hard to win under Mike McCarthy me. Right. The a Mike McCarthy? Yes. And be the the rest of the coaching staff besides Dan Quinn. I don't know what that was going on. Was the cowboys were averaging I think it was over six yards of carry against the Packers on Sunday. And Dak Prescott threw the ball 46 times and threw two interceptions in the fourth quarter. What the hell are you putting your quarterback in a position to throw two interceptions in the fourth quarter for when you're six yards a carry with a 14 point lead?

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Is it necessary, Jerry? No.

Rob Kelly:

No, I think no, that's killing more. This comes from kellen moore. Tell him we're happy when it comes to Dak he loves me. He loves to

Dave Clarke:

bro Hello. He he just

Rob Kelly:

if Cooper Rush was in this game and this is nothing against Cooper rush vers Dak Prescott the ability level or anything like that. If Cooper Rush was quarterbacking this team and we're up 28 to 14 in the fourth quarter. I guarantee you he would not have 46 pass attempts by the time this goddamn game ended. He wouldn't

Joe Malkin:

it wouldn't have had two interceptions either. I mean I'd see what you're getting that

Rob Kelly:

it's just it will call the game like it should be called not not for you know I think we can make this know if the game situation calls for a goddamn handoff to Tony Pollard so we can run the eight nine yards given the goddamn ball it especially in a situation where it's just the the plays that get called make no sense for the situation that the game that the game was it just blows my mind. Sometimes

Joe Malkin:

it sounds like you don't get over it. It sounds like you're not defending Dak but blaming kellen moore and I couldn't agree more with you. Watching that team. They have to have that now I think Dak and Zeke Based on the contracts compared to ability I personally do think they're overrated. I do think that Zeke definitely, I do think they're very good at what they do but when you have the full tank when you write when you have Zeke Elliott and and Pollard in your backfield I mean you you got to be using that backfield you have to be using that backfield. Dak is a very good quarterback. But you're right. I mean, it doesn't matter if your quarterback is Tom Brady, Dak Prescott, Joe Montana, you run the football situation,

Rob Kelly:

can I ask you something else too is like, on a third and fourth situation I can overtime. What is the rest of the NFL throwing into their scheme? Right, the fact that their quarterback can run the ball, and that makes their offense so much more successful. Dak Prescott is not a slow guy. Dak Prescott QEMU. But yet, they don't even attend to any kind of RPO or anything like that. There's just so many different wrinkles that this team could have that they don't conduct

Dave Clarke:

confidence I have in third and less than five in the bears right now. Because of how Justin feels. 100% 100% I'm so sure that they're gonna get it like, because it's like, just put it in his hands and he'll make it work like RPO like you said, or he'll just like just design run or whatever. stuff to be a Cowboys fan. It's still tough to be a cabin

Rob Kelly:

at the same time. We're still top 60 Right, well, 100% Well,

Joe Malkin:

hey, listen, Bobby, you're you're in it until you're not right.

Dave Clarke:

Joe, was that hurt? Or the dolphins or the dolphins gonna win the AFC East?

Joe Malkin:

I think they could. I think they could I really, really, really, really like their head coach. I think this guy is something else the way he talks to his players the way he handles the media. The way he calls a game. He lets his coaches do what they need to do. He has a stacked roster which i i have my opinions on the the owner I think we all do have our opinions on Stephen Ross, up at the general manager and the head coach down there Mike McDaniel. They're they're doing an incredible job and with that talent and the way to it looks down there. Yeah, I think they can be I still think the bills are a wagon. But look, I they look flawed. They definitely look flat. You know what's nice, though, and we'll get to the bills. But what's nice is to see Devin Singletary actually running the football. And that is

Dave Clarke:

nice for you because I traded him to like five Yeah, that to

Joe Malkin:

actually producing on the football field is nice to see. Yeah, I think the dolphins are the real deal. I think their defense is is ridiculous. I think their offense is I don't know if they have the equation to go in win the Super Bowl this year. But they're definitely working towards that as long as they don't screw it up in typical dolphins fashion at some point down the road.

Dave Clarke:

Bobby feels like a different dolphins franchise over their home.

Rob Kelly:

Sure does. I completely agree with Joe that like Daniel has maybe the coolest and funniest head coach I've ever seen the NFL the door that halter though that whole that whole Stop it thing was so goddamn funny, man. We're fields. And he is uh, yeah, it was really irritating because like you didn't stop and I just thought like as a young guy, you'd want to take the coaching from from an elite. Yeah, I just couldn't believe that he didn't stop. Hilarious. It really just feel like he's one of us. Like, he was talking to one of his coaches. And he was like, bro, bro, bro, bro.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, I mean, it is just sort of the era of seeing like our generation start to get into the upper echelons of things. Mid to late 30s that in your 40s They're gonna start to see. I mean, we might control Congress soon if like one of those 97 year olds croaks. So that's just one just one.

Rob Kelly:

But yes, this is a different squad man. I mean, Moto and Tyreke Hill are the fastest wide receivers I've literally ever seen on the field together Tyreke Hill is on pace to break the all time receiving record over Calvin Johnson and to somehow is a top three MVP candidate because that's what the 2022 NFL season is that's just where we are

Joe Malkin:

well there they have it in the East sorry go ahead where the dolphins were in the eastern

Rayshawn Buchanan:

I don't I don't think they will also think Buffalo has had a chance to make that happen without not AdSense but I think they will make it happen once those guys everyone's healthy Josh Allen you know Bobby Forgive me again but the dolphins are the cowboys and AFC what can go wrong to go and honestly fucking like say i You guys know my stance. You got we've done we've done it. We've done shows on it. Decay. I'm not wishing anything and once again and it's just because I like my potential. I think he's been great and I just hate what happened to the previous coach. So I'm I'm still in between and I'm not moving out that stance until he gets another head coaching job. So that's just where I'm at. But yes, on paper. Yeah, they are phenomenal for those listening. That's what keeps it the same energy. It looks like oh, I just to me, I just wants to get there. They're supremely talented. I think they're going to do well. they'd made win a playoff game. But once again even was seeing me limit down there. I know, we know the history of Miami as well, you know, I What can go wrong with them will go wrong at some point. And whether it's at the end of this vertical season, whether it's in a wildcard game or whatever, depending on how you want to division, they'll be going home early.

Dave Clarke:

That's why I say the best for last so now what I knew they would fucking light up the dolphins. I love it. All right. So here's what we usually do with the kind of top four teams it's changed now last week that the fourth team it that you know, isn't typically in this running was the Cowboys that run was short fucking lived. But we do have two weeks is like two weeks. It was one. So we had, we have two NFC teams. And then top four, we have two AFC teams. So I'm gonna go around, and I just this is I find the best way to find how much faith you really have in each of these teams. And I'm gonna say, Joe, I'll start with you. The bills and the Chiefs play each other right now in the AFC Championship Game who you sent in the Superbowl is the City Chiefs. I agree wholeheartedly Kumbaya.

Joe Malkin:

Sorry. Okay. Go ahead.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, well, we'll do that. We'll elaboration but yeah, well, we'll collect the data first.

Rob Kelly:

Yeah. I'm gonna go chiefs.

Dave Clarke:

Re chiefs. All right. So I mean, Joe, go ahead. You're about to start elaborating. Oh, is it? Is it essentially because the bills have dropped off? Or are the Chiefs still just the chiefs and we're all trying to make it not the case.

Joe Malkin:

I think the Chiefs or the chiefs, I think the bills are the little brother right now that want to be the chiefs. You sent it the other day, Dave, I don't know how you could say the bills would lose or the bills would beat the cheese right now in a one off playoff game. And, and I at first I was like, well, I could tell you, but then I stopped and thought about it. And it was like you know what? That That bill's team does have some holes. I think I listen. And Andy Reid is the best coach in the NFL right now. Plain and simple. He's the best coach in the NFL. He has without Tyreke hill he has kept up the same energy with that team. He's got the best tight end in the game. He's got probably the best quarterback in the game. He he's got some some pretty good young running backs in the backfield. I know Juju went out with a with a head injury this weekend. But he's even looked good. And I didn't think he went out there. So and they got Harrison Butker probably the second best kicker in the league. So all the way around. I like this chiefs team and what they've done.

Dave Clarke:

Yeah, I'm glad I'm glad I stayed on side with these fuckers because you can't I mean, the thing what happens with with teams like the Chiefs is they're so good for so long, people get bored. And then you want another team to be better. You want the eagles to be the number one overall to the NFL. But you know, in your heart of hearts, Bob, that chiefs, the chiefs are still the team to beat and it just goes to show because they're the team. We're now officially where you've gone back and forth. Other people have gone back and forth on who they're going to send out of those two teams, from the AFC to the Super Bowl when we do this little game. But now we're in unanimous decision mode because the bills got figured out by the Vikings who were on the other side of this to some in the NFL and I err in the NFC and I think let's go around real quick and do them before we start to elaborate. So Ray, you have the egos and you have the Vikings in the NFC Championship Game who you sent in the Superbowl who you put in your hard earned money on Philadelphia, Philadelphia finally someone believes in the Eagles once you put the Vikings in Bob, Philly or Minnesota who's

Rob Kelly:

What time's the game

Dave Clarke:

it's the only game on

Rob Kelly:

so what's next? You go. I'm going Yeah,

Dave Clarke:

so finally somebody believes in the Eagles. That's true. I'm sending the Eagles also. Joe you sending the Eagles out of those to

Unknown:

Minnesota? What?

Dave Clarke:

Oh, all right. So we'll start with Joe then explain to me why Minnesota the Minnesota Vikings are I guess explain to me how Kirk Cousins wins gaming prime

Joe Malkin:

I'm buying. I'm buying on Kirk Cousins right now. And by

Dave Clarke:

someone tell his wife to get them away from the mortgage because that's

Joe Malkin:

a lesson you mentioned it many times that I put a lot into coaching. I don't think Kevin O'Connell or Nick Sirianni. Either one of them are very good coaches. But I've seen more resiliency and adversity on the Viking side of things where the Eagles have kind of been cruising. But the Vikings have been able to figure out some of that adversity and been able to Kirk Cousins see what you want about him mediocre quarterback. He's also found ways to get it done. The offense has been very good. I mean they have Justin Jefferson

Dave Clarke:

fucking better be duty you see that the see the weapons they have just junk her cousins should be breaking touchdown records. Right

Rob Kelly:

so so actually Osbourne

Joe Malkin:

they have the you know Dalvin Cook in the backfield. It's a good it's a good football team and that defensive front seven against the Eagles This could be very good because the Eagles run game besides hurts isn't great. I mean, Myles Sanders isn't all that good Boston Scott is a third string running back i don't know I'm just I could I could see the Vikings going in you know at this point in time the Eagles would host that game I can see the Vikings going into to Lincoln Financial and beating the Eagles off.

Rob Kelly:

So I hearing you talk I feel like the Vikings really have been through more this season. And if you're gonna line up the two schedules, right, I might be flipping my pick here. If you're if you're lining up to two schedules, right. The winds that the Vikings have even just against the bills, right, we won't count any of it even just against the bells is 10 times more than anyone that the Eagles have had the eagles to most impressive wins so far this year. are beating Cooper rush in the cowboys and beating kirk cousins in primetime right those are the two most impressive and I feel like cousins has evolved a little bit since then. And that when he gets the bills was so awesome man the string disco

Dave Clarke:

offers now you Bobby It was fucking drum for the Eagles saying this about the Eagles for weeks and you keep dismissing me I've got I've been saying this you should be fucking number one of the bearings. Bro. Now you're putting this fucking card out of your backpack? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Joe Malkin:

So can I do live in Los Angeles? i It's mandatory out there.

Dave Clarke:

Obviously you know something we should be thinking about the strange escape schedule. Are you does this gaslighting? Are you gaslighting?

Rob Kelly:

Okay, just talk about can we revive that version of Josh Allen that we saw this past week that we've seen in a couple games so far this year, was the version of Josh Allen that we saw throw a lateral behind his head three years ago. You know what I mean? This This isn't the job. He was past two years ago,

Joe Malkin:

I used to definitely play in

Dave Clarke:

art. But anyway, what I think the conclusion we've all come to. And Ray, I'll have you. Tee us off on this. Whoever comes out of the NFC. As of right now, in this fun hypothetical we do where we send everybody to the championship games into the Super Bowl. Whoever comes out of the NFC is getting whacked by the chiefs. Right? Like that's just the situation we're in.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Yes. And I think it's fair, especially if it's fairly, you know,

Dave Clarke:

having the first half they're not going to lie.

Rayshawn Buchanan:

Right, they say assuming right? No, I I do think so. She was really interested and you read bowl, I think oh, yeah, that would be fun. I think he's gonna put something serious on them that we have not seen. I would love to see that before because of all the times all you meant to five three NCAA championship game. You couldn't do much here. You know, you had me NAD. You had James thrashed you had taught pinxton You know you. You don't send Yeah, you don't you? You have Westberg Jayson Wait, yeah. Jayson of what you had a holder, Dorsey LeBrons you know, that, that that one was for Joe there, you know, you know, John? Yeah, it was, yeah, you know that that was just just a big fella. But yeah, it's like you had all these guys here. It couldn't get it done. And, you know, for the first four or five years in his career at Kansas City. They were the Eagles of the AMC because they had a lot of guys through there. You know, obviously Dwayne bow with Jamaal Charles and, you know, that was David's like they had a lot of guys come through there and they just couldn't get over the hump. Maybe he could that team and in Foxborough Robusto, beating them when they faced them in the playoffs, but yeah, now they have the guy. And you know, Andy Reid, no longer a guy who is the guy at the head coaching position, and, yeah, they're gonna smack whoever? Well,

Dave Clarke:

I think I think as much as many things change on this Power Rankings show every week, one thing remains the same. And that's what nobody believes in the Philadelphia Eagles. It's become the unofficial tagline of this show. And it's finally been proven right? I don't overreact to them losing one game by the way. I don't think that's like that's that's what we're saying here. I think what we're saying is, the Eagles are who we thought they were. And I'll leave that I'll leave that on everybody's minds as we take you into next week. Join us next week on the Power Rankings where we'll go in depth on the seven new teams that are that are going to be in it from this week. And we declare the we declare the Kansas City Chiefs the Super Bowl winners and thank you so much for listening for myself, do you cases far away Joe Malkin, Hollywood Rayshawn Buchanan, the real BK Bob Kelly. This has been missing the point