Unpacking a Wild NFL Week 1

Dave Clarke: 0:06

It's missing the point. It's the power rankings. After a Zany, a Whimsical, a ludicrous week one in the NFL and we're back, we're off. We did a preseason power rankings but it didn't really, didn't really have the testosterone, the Cajones, the wonderful Jua de Veeve of the of the peak of the power ranking shows last year. I, dear listeners, have gotten a glimpse into Bobby's power rankings and they are suitably fucking annoying to me that I think they're run. We're going to have a fun show, I do. I do think that the NFL is suffering, bob, from this writer strike, because obviously they don't have a competent script put together for this season yet, because all the writers are striking and I think that just caused a lot of craziness in the first week of the NFL. I think what I'd like to do, I have your, I have your updated power rankings, not the ones I screenshot. It's make funny. You forgetting the bangles, forgetting the bangles exist. Forgetting the bangles exist I do have your real power rankings that I'm going to pull up, but I do want to talk about a couple of storylines before we before we drunk right in Number one obviously being four snaps worth of Aaron Rodgers time as a general you have. I mean, it's like it's I can't tell how to feel about it because I do have like a hard and fast rule about like not in, like reveling in injuries for players. They also, at the same time, like fucking hate Aaron Rodgers, but at the same same time I'm like you were healthy for the entirety of your run in Green Bay, she piece of shit. But now you know four snaps played by for that cursed franchise, for that, for that woeful jets franchise that were really finally looking up in the world Fantasy managers that only had your Rodgers left to play all over the world. Just fucking so depressed.

Bob Kelly: 2:07

Do you see the one that was like point point, oh, seven points, or something like that, that point, oh six, or something absurd like that.

Dave Clarke: 2:14

I think I think it is sad for them that this has happened. It's obviously opened up a conversation about, you know, hype. There's a certain group of high profile quarterbacks that are not currently signed to a team. So I guess my question for you would be if you were the Jets, do you, do you I'm going to make it like like hell every day practice, zach Wilson, this situation, considering he had, you know, he went and won the game for his team against I, not that impressively. I really do maintain my stance from last season that the bills are borderline, still mediocre, and that Josh Allen really isn't that guy, and I think that that they kind of lost the game more than the Jets wanted. But do you, zach Wilson, it? Do you offer Tom Brady and ungodly some of money? Would he take it being, you know, having just dawned a ladies slim fit jersey and jogged around Fox bro?

Bob Kelly: 3:08

And it is what was up with that fucking jersey. It's so weird, bro, oh my God, the whole thing was weird.

Dave Clarke: 3:15

It's like you got to get a TV.

Bob Kelly: 3:17

It goes along with his shave job.

Dave Clarke: 3:20

It's very straight. He's a very strange man. The, I guess like would he take the job, probably know that there's. There's a shout for Colt McCoy. There's a shout for Colin Kaepernick. Again, we're going to go down that fucking road and have that conversation again. I guess he's going to have another workout. You know, whatever. Look, I mean, I'm all for everything that Colin Kaepernick did in protesting police brutality, but if we're talking about it in just football terms, I think we can safely say he had one to perhaps one and a half good seasons in the NFL and the constant talk of him. It was a great. It was a great little run that he had. Don't get me wrong. Super athletic Did everything really well, but at 35, not having taken an NFL snap in six years, I don't think that the conversation you made me take. But overall, my question to you, bob, is like, if you're the Jets right now, and other than like wanting to kill yourself, do you stick with with Zach or do you go to the market or do you are taking trade with a team like I?

Bob Kelly: 4:20

the Cowboys might be able to fleece them for Trey Lintz, yeah I mean I just feel like Jets right so far, it's your right is not funny, but it's literally the most believable, unbelievable script that you possibly could write for that week. One game you know like, with all the lead up coming into it, the hard knocks on national TV. The Jets had their own YouTube. Hard knocks like everyone follow.

Dave Clarke: 4:46

What Did you watch? The Jets hard knocks.

Bob Kelly: 4:49

Yeah, I watched some of it. Listen, I actually was coming around on Rogers coming into this season, like I loved all the shit talking the the Giants thing, where he's like I don't even know your name, bro, I don't even know your name. Like I loved all that shit, so like he was winning me over man, and when I heard he got hurt, it just it. It's like I said it's it's the most possible Jets thing that could possibly happen. They didn't even make it one fucking drive into their season before. Listen, we both had these existential football breakdowns before where, like, your season is over before you even get to realize that it began and that's what just happens to them. So yeah, it's heartbreaking but at the same time kind of hilarious.

Dave Clarke: 5:33

There was a question in the missing the point group chat post this morning that I I didn't want to touch because I thought it would start an argument. But it was like do the pads now have a realistic chance of moving up in that division? And you know, I'm sort of. I'm sort of mixed on it because I thought and this is another game I kind of want to talk about from the perspective of the Patriots, I know that the Eagles are in the powering but from the perspective of the Patriots, like they looked all right, to be honest, like and Matt Jones looked all right once they kind of got things going. I wonder your take from that game and you probably be considering the time it was on may have watched it in a red zone format, like I did, and I also had the Bears on, so I wasn't, you know, watching it as as deeply as perhaps the Patriots fans in our podcast might have, but was your take away from the game that the Eagles just didn't look themselves or that the Pats, you know, and Matt Jones were like just looking tidy?

Bob Kelly: 6:31

I think so they answer the first question you asked me about the Jets. They don't make a trade, they stick with Zach Wilson. Just they have to. They have to stick with Zach Wilson. You know, but the way the their season was going, if they make a trade, that's literally the end of Zach Wilson. If they bring someone else from the outside in, then you have to get rid of Zach Wilson too, because you're telling him that. Yeah, but you're, you already did do that.

Dave Clarke: 6:56

They already got hundreds.

Bob Kelly: 6:58

You can't do it again, but you know, but for the pathway yet. So I think it was. It reminded me a lot of that bangles game from last year. Do you remember that game where the bangles were up like 19 to nothing and the pads came all the way back and they almost won and they even had a shot of winning the game at the end of the game. I, for you, know a couple calls go the right way for him. So I think it's a little bit of both to be perfect. I said I think I think the pads are a little bit better than maybe we gave them credit for, specifically because of coaching, like they obviously obviously have a talent deficiency Compared to a lot of the teams in the NFL, but coaching wise man, they will stick with anyone on any given Sunday and I don't think there's any doubt. I mean, you just saw him do it to the runner-ups, so obviously, like they can stick with the cream of the crop man.

Dave Clarke: 7:43

But the Eagles don't worry, not thinking that maybe there's an Eagles hangover. We can discuss that when we get to their yeah, I mean.

Bob Kelly: 7:49

So I think the Eagles too is just a little bit of, like you said, hangover. They lost both their coordinators, so things are gonna be shaky at the beginning of thing.

Dave Clarke: 7:56

Yeah, that is like. You know that there is an extort of provable scientific evidence in to Lockdown what a Super Bowl hangover is, and a lot of the time, it really is something that people don't talk about, which is like you guys got to the Super Bowl, so your coaching staff became coveted. Yeah, you get poached around the rest of the league and you know, would you rather be An offensive coordinator on a Super Bowl runner-up team or would you rather be a head coach of your own team? And I think most people would probably.

Bob Kelly: 8:24

I mean, it's your career.

Dave Clarke: 8:25

You know like you want to just keep moving up as much as you possibly can. So I do agree that there's there. They didn't look quite like the Eagles of last year but like you said, and I think this will be a theme throughout the whole of this conversation, like it's it was a weird week but anyway we'll save the Eagles champ for them. I was suitably impressed with Patriots actually coming back, because the start of that game Look like it was gonna end up how the Cowboys game ended up. They really did pull it around and I do. I do credit Belichick for you know as much as people sort of Lion eyes him as a tactician and as someone who can think on the fly and like never has a Consistent, like second plan, like he plays so well to the weaknesses of other teams. I do think that, like everybody on the Patriots, is still motivated to be a patriot despite I agree with you like a Noticable dearth in in talent but, anyway, if you want to hear more Of an in-depth Patriots conversation here, on missing the point, we do have a dedicated Patriots show that Mike and Mike and Ray did. So we're done listening to this and you want more of your fix On that, please do go listen.

Bob Kelly: 9:33

I'm just care. What was the staff count for Zeke and Romandre? I didn't, I think. I think I was 50 50.

Dave Clarke: 9:39

Yeah, Zeke got some runs, but I'm pretty sure Ramon's receiving some looked really good. He's a really good runner. So there's that yeah last honorable man, what go?

Bob Kelly: 9:48

ahead. I was gonna say what was your opinion on the on the YouTube TV for box. Bro, love it, love YouTube. Well, it was a little, a little overwhelming at first, correct?

Dave Clarke: 9:58

I didn't know what to do I agree with you there, a little overwhelming and it also like you have to remember, to like, here in Los Angeles, my, my games, my day, my football day, starts at 10 am. So on a Sunday, so Saturday night, I may have inbibed in some spirits and Getting up kind of bleary-eyed to try to like get the TV gone. I had to take my bedroom to I. This is my process, okay, just for the listeners. I take my bedroom TV out To the living room, put it on the fireplace, I turn on the main TV, I turn on the bedroom TV. No, obviously I had all my Sunday tickets signed up for I. I canceled Hulu, I went over to YouTube and, because we live in 2023, I didn't have to have a man come to my house between the hours of 9 am and 6 pm Till they switch my cable walks over, which was nice. So the I mean I is direct TV dead.

Bob Kelly: 10:47

Now it has to be who's got an ad for that? My brother, fuck what. Do you even advertising anymore? Like what.

Dave Clarke: 10:55

I just can just go away and, like I never had Sunday ticket and like direct TV, I would like use the. Sun. You could act on my Apple TV but it was awful. It was so bad You'd be restarting the app all the time. You would be like changing the games around and what it goes to show is that like YouTube. I think like really figured it out Really quickly, but it to your point. I got it on the TVs and I got the main game that I wanted to see, like I. You know, what we'll do is we'll do red zone on one TV and like one box of a million. You know the Steelers and the Bears are playing in my house. My wife be a Steelers fan, so put the Steelers on the main TV for her, which obviously wasn't a pleasant experience. But we which we'll talk about when we get to the 49ers, I think in the in the power rankings. But I tried out the four box on the side TV with you know, as the Steelers game was kicking off. I was trying to just figure it out and I would. Maybe I was too hungover or something, but I was like just we'll just put the red zone on. I thought there are no what to do. So as the day progressed, I and I saw people tweeting about it I was like, okay, I need to like experiment with this. I need to figure this out because, basically, what it is is it's, it's, it's making you start, hanson, right.

Bob Kelly: 11:58

It's correct, you have to. You have to be the producer of your own red zone.

Dave Clarke: 12:02

So I think, so I think what I would love is if I was in a situation where neither the Steelers or the Bears were on and I could Focus completely on the four box and be like, oh, what's happening over here? Oh, what's happening, we're here. That I think I could really get behind, but I wasn't put in a great position from a personal standpoint to deal with it. What did you think of it? Did you really get to play with it since the count of the night?

Bob Kelly: 12:23

So at first I definitely Weaned more towards the roads at red zone and I almost felt like I wasted my money Wasn't the first like. I just want Scott Hanson back in my yeah, bro, like yeah, like that first one o'clock hour I was like, should I've even done all this? Like this is a lot of money for me to just switch to red zone at the end of the day.

Dave Clarke: 12:41

Yeah, I want to say you know Eight straight hours of commercial free football and. I wanted that in my life for them.

Bob Kelly: 12:48

Yeah, yeah, but the, the, the 4 pm Games though that was a different story. The 4 pm Games, I feel like I settled into a good zone and had four games going because it was the only four on. So it was like there's good because you could switch between them all?

Dave Clarke: 13:02

No, I think it was five.

Bob Kelly: 13:04

Was there five in the? I think there. I think you're right. I think it was five either way.

Dave Clarke: 13:08

You could. You know you can four box, that you can quad box it yourself with the, I think the later games it is, I mean we're useful, have more utility?

Bob Kelly: 13:15

Yeah, definitely it. The the 1 pm Games is very overwhelming to have all those games Because, like you have to pick between four of them, you have to get the right box. You know what I mean?

Dave Clarke: 13:23

It's like just red zone for the one o'clock game situation. That's just a straight rip run situation I need I need big Danny hits and hold my hand in this situation.

Bob Kelly: 13:32

But I didn't stretch only one. You know I need. I need Scott in my life, bro.

Dave Clarke: 13:36

Yeah, he's just so good, you know like he's. So I think people underestimate what it it's like to keep up that level of energy the entire time and like communicate with your producers and he doesn't get a break.

Bob Kelly: 13:48

Have you ever seen his behind? Have you ever seen his behind the scenes, bro? Yeah, it's why his? Breakfast is wild. When he does red zone he eats the saltiest breakfast possible so that it can suck the moisture out of his body so he doesn't have to pee for the entire day of football. He says he doesn't pee until half time of sunday night football. That's insane.

Dave Clarke: 14:07

That's bananas and probably not. To be honest, I'll keep them around. Definitely not good for you. I'm gonna get him one of those trucker friends. You know the truck long call truck drivers have or they just I'm up to their with their wee wee and it could pee into like a bucket. Just let him so he cares.

Bob Kelly: 14:22

It's almost like the whizinator but that's something completely different.

Dave Clarke: 14:26

Fucking the PA with the worst job on the on red zone. She's like I gotta do. I gotta describe this bucket and you could like it's like whoever fucked up that day, like whoever made a mistake has to go empty scots piss bucket. You're definitely getting caught from Ocha at that point. But yeah, I mean, look, I'm not telling you guys how to do your job. I mean, let the man take the first. Yeah, I really enjoyed I. I was a little it was too bad because for me, going into sunday, I was obviously very excited to have football back and then, like Immediately, my dreams for the season were crud. I did the classic Bears fan like offseason, convincing myself of a lot of things, and the fan base is very divided on like whose fault it is that we looked that bad about. I'll just do a brief thing on the bears because I know that, not because of the bears were in the power ranking for good reason, but I, I was, I've been, as you know, and I think you're one of the few people that can really really attest to this, because you have to be on the Receiving end of me crying about this team so often. I have never wavered from the idea that I want to lose and win on the merit of Justin Fields I I want to win the game or lose the game, based on his performance and. I I'm really sick of them not letting that happen and I I was confused as to why, in the big 30 year jump Um, we were running weak running packages. Like Coleal Herbert gets a toss out to the right and he has to go behind chase claypool, who has no interest in blocking, like just looks like he doesn't want to be there. Like looks like the kid in the high school class who's just like Completely checked out, he's knows he's gonna get an f and he's gonna go like Get yelled at by his fucking single mom later that day. And I'm like I don't, I have no, I can't believe it, you know. And then we go down and there's a Collective like Resignation on the sidelines, like nobody's talking to each other, like it's week one and a lot of people have been like oh, poles didn't do like this, right, he should have gotten this guy and he should have done this. And I'm like no.

Bob Kelly: 16:33

I don't, I don't agree.

Dave Clarke: 16:34

I think we have a decent roster. Now I'm not saying we're gonna be fucking world beaters, but we we have a decent of roster where I just saw a lack of motivation and a really bad set of play calling, which makes me think that it's maybe our coach and this is kind of the first year and where the coach is gonna get Screwed nice to this point, because it's you know, you've had a year now to like instill your value system into this team and what are you fucking doing? You know, and I just thought, like to get A defensive coaching was good because that's the Bears identity. But in this day and age, when you have a guy as talented as Fields, you got, you got to open him up and you got to let him like. The design runs were terrible and we did like three of them, which was stupid. We are quarterback committee. We had Deontay Foreman going out to get screen passes. I'm like, have you never watched Deontay Foreman play football? Like what are you doing? Like he's, he's your guy to go get screens? Like run his ass up the middle and let Khalil Herbert break out for the fucking screens. And then, finally, we have a fourth round pig as our RB three. That gives us a spark and it's like, go fuck it, give it to Rochon. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit who's doing it. You know, like I don't care who, what, what, what, everybody's on the uh, who, where, where anybody is on the payroll, you know, and I just think I don't know. It's just like the whole thing was just very upsetting, like it was very cause it was against the Packers and you know we're making Jordan love believers Like to confirm their belief in this guy was definitely not as good as, like, the last two guys that have played quarterback there. And we're talking about his mom in the stands and shit. And I'm like, am I really going to watch this again? The same shit again. When we have like a really talented guy quarterback, we're just not letting them win. You know what I mean? I don't know. It's very sad yeah.

Bob Kelly: 18:28

No, the whole game. It was just a surprising game. How fast, how fast, how fast. I lost interest in that game, is what you know what I mean. It was one of those where, like I was really pumped for that Packers Bears game and it was America's game of the week for God's sake, yeah, and and the Bears defense just didn't show off at all.

Dave Clarke: 18:46

Really weird because we did for the first like 20 minutes Like they they actually did. And the problem is Eddie Jackson I knew was going to be the biggest like problem that we didn't replace because he just gets absolutely burned and he doesn't communicate well with his teammates and he was awful Like he just started getting like targeted during that game and it was really really bad. He's number four, he's the strongest. So you're curious, yeah, and he was just awful Like the whole game and he just started getting exploited. And you know, I I didn't necessarily think that that Tremaine, edmonds and Edwards were going to be these like life changing defensive additions, but they were at least like at the start, like guiding the line. They were like go right, go right. And they're like you know, the line would slide to the right and we would hit a hole, like a lot better and like we got a couple of sacks out of that. And I was like great, these guys can read the offense, like these are, these are good. That's where I want that the line makers position is where I want those guys with those brains to like make those calls, you know, but yeah, then we just started our secondary Still such a problem, our corners are decent, but our safeties are still such a problem, and it's just. But again, I really do think it seemed like a um, I know our offensive coordinator is good, is the thing? Like I know he's good, but he just didn't, didn't seem to be able to do what he was like kind of set out there to do. I don't know, it's very fucking person.

Bob Kelly: 20:03

The, the the lack of uh willingness to try and force DJ more into a game plan to. I thought was kind of weird it was like he was there.

Dave Clarke: 20:13

Especially he caught.

Bob Kelly: 20:14

He, literally he caught two. It seemed like they they thought about it in the second quarter. They forced two balls into him. We got him both, yeah, and then I don't think he didn't do anything else. The rest of the game, right and it's like that's what I'm saying.

Dave Clarke: 20:27

It's like yeah it's where I'm like yo, like they're they're letting Derek Carr take shots down the fucking sidelines in in New Orleans, like they're letting him take shots, like and they're coming off sometimes and I'm like we're not trusting Justin Fields, so like I think he's got a good deep ball. Like I don't understand.

Bob Kelly: 20:46

Like do you think it's that? They think that they can kind of battle for that? They still feel like that they have something to lose. So they they get really conservative and they think that maybe they can ball control themselves to weigh into the playoff and don't let Fields make it. That's unacceptable right now, that's, I agree, but I'm just trying to.

Dave Clarke: 21:06

It's the only thing that you know what I mean. I think that is what they're doing, and I, but I think the point is when it's happening and it's starting to unravel, as you're doing, that sticking to that game play is not an acceptable thing to do. You have to agree. You have to let the most creative improvisational quarterback in the league do that shit. You know what I mean.

Bob Kelly: 21:25

And, like the reason, the Cardinals were good with Kyle and Mary for two years, yeah, yeah.

Dave Clarke: 21:28

And it's like you, you, I was looking at Fields at the start and he looked super fucking confident and he had a swagger about him and the first couple of drives started kind of work. But then it was like there was like some bad luck at the start because I think that the rest it was a tough spot on a fourth and one that we went for with Fields, where I think we got it, but it was like it was kind of it was marginal, like it could have gone either way, and it was two dumb play call choices because it was like we had Cole Comet run a fucking seat which we didn't get on 31, which was fucking dumb. Because for me and again you're the chief, yeah, I mean dude, but for me it's like, bro, have Justin Fields back there, give him a three choice option. You know what I mean. Like, like, let him read it. The fake, fake, a fucking QB sneak. With Justin Fields you might actually be able to kill them. You know like when they're piling up on the book and line of scrimmage and all you need is one guy to beat somebody deep and he can be fast enough to do a little wheel rev, exactly, and it's like, give him the option to make the call. You know, give him some codes to like to do it. And maybe it has something to do with the fact that a lot of the and this is my hope a weak one against your biggest rival coming into your house. I'm hoping it's because a lot of these guys have not played together for very like it's a very, very, very fresh roster and like maybe we can just get our communication down a little bit better and like go a little bit. But there was a moment, bobby, like I bought my TV like last year and TV like last cyber Monday or black Friday, whatever you call it. And there was a moment where she'll her like got a screen pass and chase clip pool and like one guy to guard it, he just like or to block and he just did. And I thought I was going to smash my television. I like I was looking at chase on his noisy spot. Um, I fucking, I thought I was going to smash my fucking TV, like I I had. I was like I'm going to throw a fucking beer through this television right now because of chase fucking clip pool. Like this is insane. How, how lazy. That just was. No, he dropped a pass. The one time you looked at him is like I would bet you, honestly, I, I I hate to say it because I thought coming in on paper was like a good wide receiver three situation, but I'm like, fuck him, like no, unacceptable. Also, who's the motivator? Who's the motivator on the sidelines? Because everybody was quiet as a fucking mouse when we went down and then when we finally looked like we had some life, we immediately give up touchdown. So it's like then we were no longer so. It was tough. It was tough. I don't want to keep losing. I really don't want to keep losing. It's, it's not a nice feeling, but anyway, onto brighter, broader, brighter and broader pastures. We're going to start talking about these. Power is number 10, ravens I didn't think they deserved a place anywhere near the top 10. But after that Lamar and Jackson outing after, after that game of just like two terrible teams if I'm being honest, playing each other, I don't think they have anybody. I think now that huge injury to their backfield is going to derail their season, maybe. Maybe you're just braver than I would be if I was making the power rankings, because I would know for a fact that the ravens are not going to stay on this list and I wouldn't want to be the one like changing them around a ton. What is it that you see in the ravens that gets them to this number 10 spot?

Bob Kelly: 24:42

I just don't listen. Jk Dobbins to me isn't that big of a loss, because JK Dobbins is a loss every goddamn season of the NFL. He gets hurt every year. So that at that point, is expected. And Zay flowers is I know we talked about like OBJ, we talked about all these guys that he's the best by. Zay flowers is one of the best by receiving some Mars at red and he looked really good on Sunday. And if they can actually have a real connection and then you have Bateman and OBJ as your backup wide receivers, as like your compliments I don't know if the running back matters much. If you have them are there. I mean I feel like you go by committee. You can do Gus Edwards and was just as ill at two touchdowns. So I just with the way that they're set up, I don't think Dobbins is that big of a loss and if Zay flowers is real, you got to look out for them, man. You got to look out for them because if he can have a real pass connection with a legit wide receiver and you still have to worry about his legs, he's going to be tough to stop, maybe.

Dave Clarke: 25:45

But I mean they put the Houston fucking Texans, bobby, and like their defense. That's true and still looks like bad. I think if you put a, I think if you put a real offense up against that defense, that's going to. That's not a good look for them. I think that they have all the hallmarks of a team that are going to get some doubt. Hey, you're not wrong about flowers. He cooked against me in fantasy, although I still won, thankfully to the thanks to the 53 points that the Tows Cowboys defense gave me. Thank you for absurd. But I think I think you're right about the backfields with Lamar and his wheels. But I do think you're also just sort of depending again on this kind of like strike force offense with no real kind of depth to it. Andries is going to be injured from this year. It looks like I don't know, I don't know, man, that deep push Like who else?

Bob Kelly: 26:38

So the, the Jets were another team and most put here. You know that, and who else would be here, though it's like I guess the Seahawks.

Dave Clarke: 26:45

maybe the Seahawks look pretty good to be quite honest with you. The Tim book and yours look pretty good. The Bucks did look, make her look pretty. He looked all right Okay.

Bob Kelly: 26:54

You know, it's what it's a weird week once.

Dave Clarke: 26:55

So I'm not like subscribing to anything intense.

Bob Kelly: 26:59

We won. Power rankings are always you know, it's like you know.

Dave Clarke: 27:02

I think that I think that there's some teams that maybe like underperformed, like to be honest, did you have the chargers on here? No, so like they, they had, they participated in the best game of Sunday and like the most fun game to watch on Sunday and I thought that maybe they sneak in based on that merit, because as much as the dolphins looks great and they really pulled it off I think they deserve their place in the power rankings. They, like the chargers, really participated in that, in the entertainment value of that game, and it was a wild fucking game and I really enjoyed it and I thought maybe just on that merit alone they might sneak in. They still look woefully flawed, but I do think that they have a ton of talent. I think they, I think they've they're going to end up with a director this year, but we'll see. We'll see who's next. The Jags yeah, kind of a plucky, yeah, a plucky sort of young, burgeoning team. I think that I think that I've never not believed in Lawrence, but I knew that he needed a couple of years and now I wouldn't call it a make or break year for him or anything, but I think what we're seeing is like his talent and helping the talent around him emerge, and I think we kind of saw that was what was going to happen. I think he showed some really good game management from a young QB. I think he I still think his pocket awareness is elite. I think it has been since he came into the league. I think he's got really borderline like Tom Brady circuit 2007, like pocket awareness, like how the fuck did he know that guy was coming around the blind side, kind of a thing. I and I really enjoy watching him play football. He's got glorious hair and they're kind of likable. The Jags are kind of likable right now with the, with the players that they have in the skill position, players that they have and I'm not sure they're going to. They might make the playoffs this year. I'm not sure they're going to do much after that, but I think that they might be some team to watch out for in the next like two to three seasons two seasons, because I think I said two to three last year about them. So in the next, like one to two seasons. I think that they're going to be some of the perhaps or to be reckoned with, and I think they might be there. They're about some of this power ranking. What made you put them in here?

Bob Kelly: 29:13

Calvin Ridley. It was a determining factor here for me. You know we knew what they were last year. They're a plucky team. No one saw them coming and they definitely made some noise against maybe the worst playoff defeat in the history of the NFL. So that definitely is what brought them to the forefront. But now you look at a team that has a legit number one for a possible elite quarterback with a top 10 running back, and then you have a top 10 defense to go along with it and you have a coach to start. You want to Super Bowl. So it's like you just add all those things up in the weakest division in the league. They're going to be mainstays on this power rankings. I have a feeling this year. I think they're going to be there all year, but just because of the fact, like I said, there's no one else in that division, I think that that compares to them. I mean, you look at their division this week Texas stink Colt stink Titans look horrible. I don't think they have any competition at the vision it's going to be. They might, you know, nine and eight, 10 and seven, but they're going to be in control of that division the whole way.

Dave Clarke: 30:16

I believe that I don't. I think we're gonna learn a lot about them this Sunday because they play the Chiefs. We're gonna learn a lot about the Chiefs as well. I will talk about them a little bit later. You're immediate, is it's funny again? this year, but that's fine, I think I think that's gonna be an interesting game because I think it's a bounce back game for the Chiefs coming off a game they probably shouldn't have lost and, you know, in prime time on Thursday night, and I think I think that Everything you said about this is true. I am staying there. Our outs and the power rankings, it's you questionable, but I think we'll see. I mean, if they produce week in, a week out, like they did this week, and then it's definitely possible. Um, I'm gonna buy you a microphone stand just and mail it to your house, just for the records it's still doing it. You're fucking with it. You'd like breakfast?

Bob Kelly: 31:11

and you're like messing around with your microphone.

Dave Clarke: 31:14

I'm gonna record the zero. Sorry, it's what Anyway? Yeah okay, I mean interesting. Watch this face with the Jags. I think that's a perfectly reasonable spot for them to beat the Buffalo Bills man. I, I don't know. I think I think they missed their opportunity. I think that their window is closing. I think that there's a reason they fall, falling down to eighth on power ratings. When I I create me, if I'm wrong, they started out two or three to start a. Yeah, they were they. They are still on paper a wagon. But I think that there's things falling apart at the seams out there that we're not 100% privy to. I Believe the rumors that Stefan Davis is not into Josh Allen as a QB anymore. I genuinely do believe those rumors, just not, you know, sort of set in stone as as like a provable thing. But I'm not that into Josh Allen as a QB, because I thought for a couple of seasons that he was Be forced into making plays because he didn't have a good offensive line and he couldn't establish a run game with the backfield behind him, etc. Etc, etc, etc. What I think I'm learning now is that he's not a good decision maker. He's not a good decision maker when he really really needs to be. He doesn't see. It's the opposite problem to what most quarterbacks have, where he's looking down the seams and deep downfield when he has a 10-yard Checkdown throw right fucking in front of them, which must be very frustrating for Bill's pants. Because I think I, like you're, like it's hard to play quarterback, you know felt like you know, don't get me wrong and real arm-chairing it. But from our angle, when you can see that 10-yard guy going across the first down marker and he just like there he is, you got him, and then he throws it into like a triple coverage, you're like dude, what are you doing? What are you doing? I think he's done and I think that's that's the problem that we're facing here. What do you think?

Bob Kelly: 33:12

It seems like his problem is Anytime he's under any kind of pressure, like with anyone in his face, he forces that off his back back foot all the time and then in the red zone man. He makes so many red zone mistakes it's unbelievable because he's not a good shurrier. It's.

Dave Clarke: 33:29

It's so weird to me he doesn't make those decisions correctly but he's, he's, he's.

Bob Kelly: 33:35

He's the most Unstoppable red zone weapon in the NFL at this point. He's, he's a fullback and a quarterback mixed in the one. How the hell are you making this many red zone mistakes, man it's. It's crazy. To me, the, the throw Over the middle was the most inexcusable. The one in the double coverage deep into the end zone. I don't know what the hell he was doing. I Know you guys made the comparison earlier of Dak and it's like the fact that Josh Allen is being brought up with Dak Prescott. It is not a crazy thing at this point in season.

Dave Clarke: 34:10

I would have thought a couple times during that, those game.

Bob Kelly: 34:12

This time last year, though, that's what I mean, man, it's, it's, it's crazy how fast they fall. I personally think it has a lot to do with dabble. You know, he, he, he was the reason. I feel like a Look what he did with Jones last year. You know what I mean. Take away that Cowboys game yesterday. Last year, daniel Jones was literally what happened to Josh Allen previously to, that is, he was this quarterback to had all these turnovers that had all these question marks. Dabble comes in and Day ball dabble. I don't even know how.

Dave Clarke: 34:44

I think they're all but sure they're boy.

Bob Kelly: 34:47

He comes in and turns Allen into this. You know, I think he was running up for MVP, One of the best quarterbacks in NFL. No turnovers. He leaves Allen's turnovers skyrocket and Daniel Jones turnovers one as soon as he goes there.

Dave Clarke: 35:01

So it's like we know he's a good coach. I mean I know that currently His stock is in super high this week after what just happened, but I mean he might hate Daniel Jones. I don't know what to choose if it's a damn, but she's.

Bob Kelly: 35:14

That was Rob oh it's like Chris Collins.

Dave Clarke: 35:16

We're at this like, yeah, he's Still in there for reasons. This is like oh, my fucking god.

Bob Kelly: 35:25

The only reason he could have been out there that way is because he was getting posh. I swear to God.

Dave Clarke: 35:30

It really does seem like it, but who knows? Um, I Think, yeah, you could be right. Yeah, you could be right. Why not just still do the things that he taught you? Then you know, like, why not just remember the things that he taught you to not suck? I mean, I know that might be an oversimplification, but, like you sort of alluded to, it's like just physical gifts that this guy has. It's like it's gotta be a mental mistakes. Like I'm putting it on him more than like the play calling and stuff, because I saw how the plays would work if he would make plays. You know what I mean. Like it's like it's not a situation where you're like why the fuck are you handing it off right there. Like it's not that, it's Dude, that guy was wide open, look what are you doing? Or like dude, there was a, there was a pocket for you to run into right there, what are you doing? Like there was a lot of that. So that makes me more nervous, if that makes sense about like his future.

Bob Kelly: 36:22

But I mean the physical gifts.

Dave Clarke: 36:23

That he has it. It does seem like he should be getting coached into positions where he can succeed, or or he should be at this point with his Experience. At this point, he should be making better decisions at that, the NFL level, but he just isn't. Um and the bills like those, like the first team to really fall apart, like to really right.

Bob Kelly: 36:42

He lost the game. Yeah, 100%, and he lost that. It's not the only time.

Dave Clarke: 36:46

I've ever seen him lose the game for his team. It's the thing I'm also playing out situations, you know. So yeah, not the powerhouse that I, I sort.

Bob Kelly: 36:58

No, those, those the biggest shock a week For Rogers to go out like that too, and then you still lose that game bro Like come on, we can't.

Dave Clarke: 37:06

I know, but maybe there was a rally, maybe there was a rally like you lost her guy I. I think it was perfectly acceptable with them still in power rankings based on their roster. I know Mike was like all on you, like no, it has to be this, it has to be this just basic. All his opinions on week ones but like every single factor he wanted out of the power rankings had to be what happened in week one and it's like that's just not how power rankings work. You know you have to factor in their roster, factor in their past performances over the last season and etc. Etc.

Bob Kelly: 37:33

I and the projection what's happening, move forward and stuff like that.

Dave Clarke: 37:38

So you know, mike, wanting to just be like okay, well, glad, the best win, they're number one, you had the second best win there and over to. It's like that's not our work, but I think there's Marry, and keeping them in the power rankings based on the wagon that they still are on paper, but I think there also might be a chance that we don't see them there for.

Bob Kelly: 37:58

Yeah, they're hanging. They're hanging by thread, so Watch this space.

Dave Clarke: 38:02

Like I said about the, about the Buffalo Bills, the Detroit Lions come in at number seven. After just finishing up a conversation about, you know, week one, performance is not being the only factor in a power rate reliance at number seven. You know I was. I think I was the first one on the show to tell you guys that this was gonna be a good Lions team. I was. I'm predicting that the NFC North would be at the Lions division this year. I am on record on the prediction show saying and I think they've had a lot of really, really good roster decisions. They did stuff I wanted the best to do. They, I Think, have a really talented receiving core that's underrated. I think that they have better guys on In there on their defense that then they did last year, I think. I Don't think I don't think golf is very good, but I'd like, as far as like, to win them. You know silverware, but they they performed very well. What I will say is to get them at number seven on the power rankings after the Kansas City Chiefs clearly lost a lot more and let me rephrase that to Darius Tony clearly lost them a lot then. Then the Lions won it and you know we can just fold the Chiefs conversation into this there and you know spoiler alert but they're at number three on the power rankings I think well deserve. There's still the fucking Cerebral champions and, as much as they didn't have a good game, travis Kels who's hurt, etc. Etc. I would love to address something that I've seen in our group chat all over the internet and that is the Response to Patrick Mahomes, and the Chiefs has been so much more based on how people feel about Patrick Mahomes, his girlfriend and the general Chiefs fan base then his actual football play and the fact of the matter is and this is this is just something I have to tell everybody that's like in any way trying to talk about sports intelligently. If you're reacting to the reaction of of a team, then you're not Speaking intelligently about the team if you're reacting to their game. You saw Patrick Mahomes. What else did you want Patrick Mahomes to do? What like?

Bob Kelly: 40:11

Yeah, could he what exactly.

Dave Clarke: 40:13

It's like oh, oh Well, tom Brady never got let off the hook for this and this I'm like listen here he had from Nelson Adler forever. This is his water, see, very came. Excuse me, not having the guys. It's like dude. When he hit those guys in the fucking hits, well the fuck, they caught the fucking wall. So Tom is able to succeed with guys that were not as good or like not superstars on paper, but at least they still caught the fucking passes he threw to them. If Kedarius Tony Bet on the Chiefs to lose, he couldn't have done a better job of Facilitating their losses. There's a photo going around of him like this in the perk. Physician and the fucking ball right here and the caption being disresulted in a pick six for the Lions. It's like what do you want Patrick Mahomes to do? Wait?

Bob Kelly: 41:04

that was, what do you want? Well, and that was, that was the turning point of the game too. I mean, if you look at that picture, if you look in the upper right hand corner of that picture, all you see is green. So Tony catches that ball man. He scampers for at least 30 to 40 yards and the Chiefs, I think, are at that point, were up. I think it was like 14, 7 or something like that. So they would have been up two scores. It's very tough to come back on the Kansas City she scores instead of six tie game. I think actually the Lions went up at that point. Maybe I don't know, but it was. It was a huge swing. And then the other one too, where Tony Dropped the ball in the red zone, bro, another one that's right in his goddamn hands.

Dave Clarke: 41:42

It's like he almost made that fourth in 25 put he hit it. He hit it right. You were in the hands on fourth in 24.

Bob Kelly: 41:49

That's a sky, was a sky, more at that one, I think yeah, too.

Dave Clarke: 41:53

What do you want him to wait like, unless you wanted to throw the ball to himself? I don't understand where the Pratchamalms got.

Bob Kelly: 41:59

Yeah, and it's like you're totally right about the Kelsey thing too. It's like, listen, if Kelsey's in the game, 12 of those targets that Mahomes throws goes to Kelsey and he catches 10 of them for 164 yards and two touchdowns. So it's like, yes, it is a completely different game. If if Kelsey's in there, it's a completely different game. If the Chiefs can catch the ball, the line still had the had the capitalized on it. You know, and I don't think that we saw the best football.

Dave Clarke: 42:24

I don't know, I'm not taking anything with me. I'm reacting to the the gleeful social media run about Patrick Holmes in compare. Like, first of all, I told everybody we it's too early to be making Tom Brady comparisons anything. So if you're gonna beat him with the fucking stick of like, oh well, tom Brady, done it up. Bitch, he needs five more stripper bowls to be good compared to fucking Tom Brady. Like, I'm sorry, like we're all. We're did not we're a long, long way away from that. Like you can't Arbitrarily decide that he's in the race with took Tom Brady and then beat him up for not being Tom Brady after he's in his book. In late 20s, tom Brady played until he was 86. It's not. It's just give him a minute. You know what I mean, like before we start making those comparisons. Additionally, I Understand that the Chiefs fan base is probably quite annoying about. Like you know, they're their recent success, but I don't really pay attention to that because it's like that's. Every fan base, like every fucking fan base has some sort of old goal Minority. It's gonna be dicks when they win and idiots when they lose. That's just how it is. I'm just trying to watch the game and analyze the game and, unless he's throwing the ball up in the air and then running the route and catching it and scoring it, I don't know what the fuck I was supposed to do. I genuinely don't. Um, I think they're running backs. I really like things, things, I'm really You'll have running backs, bro they like strange because I really thought Pacheco was gonna be this like big break out star this year because watching him run he looked he used to run so hard and all of a sudden he doesn't anymore. Mckinnon's, like you know, a third downlap. Yeah, I don't, I don't understand and then Edward Thelaer is like always been too undersized and Like never really worked. You can throw one special packages and stuff, but that's where I worry about them. I'm honest with you, because people like have this big wide receiver issue and it's like, yeah, no, they do, they definitely do. But I also think the Padre maryl Holmes is the kind of guy that can make that work. I think you have to, I think you Probably bench at least kid Aries tonight. You have to mention right or like.

Bob Kelly: 44:22

What do you?

Dave Clarke: 44:22

do like what cuz? It's like he was doing Everything right, like he was running the right routes, he was getting open, he was getting separation, and then he would come up these drops. It's like that's a confidence issue. So I don't know what you do there. Do you bench him? Is like gonna make it worse? Like do you try to get him back in the game? But he's like he's a fucking liability. It can't get any worse. It can't like because he can't have a worse performance Then the performance he had in that game. But yeah, like I said, I don't mean to keep talking about the cheese because I don't want to take anything away from the line. I do think that they look a lot better. I don't think Jerry goff's the guy and you know you were saying like wow, this lens defense looks like super legit. I'm like I disagree with you on that one because I think like Anybody would look super legit if you were getting gift wrap fucking pick sixes. I think they are better than last year, I do, but I don't think they're as much better as Amy than look. But I'm not trying to take anything away. No, honestly, I think, because they have week two the lion's week too.

Bob Kelly: 45:18

See how, see how.

Dave Clarke: 45:19

That'd be a good game. We'll learn a lot. We'll learn a lot of weed to. Here we are again say we'll learn a lot next week. We'll do that until week 60 until we 15 yeah. I mean, look it's, we'll see how it goes. For the lions, I, I think I don't want to overact on them, you know, and I also don't overachieve. So it was a good Thursday night game. It was close, I enjoyed it. I held a lot closer than the Sunday night game, I'll tell you that much, although I actually quite enjoyed that one too. Coming in number six is the woefully underperforming but very highly paid Joe burrow and his Cincinnati Bengals. Um, I Thought that the I don't think this is why the Bengals lost. I do think they really underperform. Will point out a few things. One, they always start slow. They always start slow every single season, and then everybody's eat everything is there a year before and everybody is eating crow by the time. Christmas rolls around everybody, so I'm not doing that this year. Maybe they don't pull it around this year, but I'm not gonna be the one to write them off. I'll say a few things. One I thought the Browns defense actually looked really good. I'm not. I'm not making excuses for burrow. I think you know if you get a contract but you can't be thrown. So 100 yard games, that's fucking. I don't care what defense you're playing, I don't care if you're playing the fucking robots that do the Fox NFL Sunday countdown, shit. I, it doesn't matter, you got to throw over a hundred yards. Yeah, kind of money, no excuses there but Probably tough to get a hundred. Yeah, well, if you're getting paid that kind of money, better fuck figure out. The Fact is the like Miles Garrett like I think was me and Mike's take for defensive, it's every bit the defensive plan you look like To see the cross over.

Bob Kelly: 47:03

You see the crossover and it's like means up.

Dave Clarke: 47:08

It's done and I think his leadership and his performance make that whole defenses level rise up like a rising tide Floats all ships for that expression is I. He looked unbelievable. I wouldn't want to play against him. You know, if I was jump or up, I would have been shitting myself to thinking about my Bugatti or whatever. But I, in saying that, I still think that the Bengals are gonna figure it out. I think that the Browns are not Gonna be better than them this season. I don't think they have a chance of like finishing higher than the Bengals in this division. I would be very surprised. I think the Browns are Browns are probably better than they've been in our like this right now, to be honest with you, but they're still the fuck with the Browns. So I'm just not. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it. I'm not entertaining them, but they would have. Might maybe been a decent chef for number 10 of the power, anything's also, but no, but what do you think? Would you? What do you think? The game? Are you worried? Do you think that they'll pull it around again? Is Joe burrow done? Does he not give a shit anymore because he got that contract? Doesn't seem like that kind of got to me.

Bob Kelly: 48:10

No, I think he just didn't play at all during training camp. He was, you know, he. I think he had, was it? Yeah, he had the calf or the thigh or whatever it was. Then he was getting that contract. I just think, like you said, they start slow and of course you're gonna start slow and literally you're not getting any reps with anyone Until that first game like, and it clearly showed I Think they're gonna be fine. I do think the Browns are definitely a team to look out for. If they can figure out that Offensive identity and Watson can figure his shit out, think that they could definitely be a force to reckon with cuz. As we all know, the first thing that shows up every year is elite Defense is it's the first thing that you can tell on paper weeks one through three. You know who has an elite defense by week three and the Cleveland Browns are definitely candidate for one of those teams. So you gotta watch out for them, because any week, any week, they could hold anyone to three points and when they so yeah, I mean I, I don't think there's a ton that we can the Bengals at this point.

Dave Clarke: 49:14

I just don't.

Bob Kelly: 49:16

Yeah, I'm not worried about that. Talk to me like, like you said, week three, that's when we start to get tells and bangles. The bangles are still struggling like week three, week four, and they haven't had at least one game that looks like them again. That's when we can worry, but until then, I think it's time. How about them dolphins?

Dave Clarke: 49:36

Yeah, no, fucking awesome so dolphins, I mean, look, I don't. I think that both teams are very fun. I think it was like to Dolphin, like to the dolphins and the chargers, both looking like teams that had huge flaws. That kind of resulted in a really entertaining game. If you would agree, would you agree with that? Um, I don't know if dolphins are necessarily gonna be like world leaders this year, but I think that they're gonna be a lot of fun to watch. I still like Listening to Mike McDaniel and we're watching him on the sidelines. Um, there was a guy his name is like Dan something. He's a stand-up columnist and he's in the show billions and I guess his best friend growing up was Mike McDaniel and I'll send you this video. But he tells this great story about like playing Madden at his house when they were kids and he's like imagine the kid they played man Madden with as a kid, as a young man it's in Madden now. He's like, and he used to beat my ass in Madden because he would take Uh, he would just, he would always just pick Um Deon Sanders and take him all the way back and pick me off every single time and every time he was running back to the pig states He'd be like prime time, prime time, and I'm like I would be so mad at the basement. I'm like, wow, what a story we could all relate to. Mike McDaniel coming in through Is like the most relatable millennial coach of all time again.

Bob Kelly: 50:52

Well, and I really enjoy him, and.

Dave Clarke: 50:54

I really enjoyed the Dolphins in general. No, um, I think they're gonna finish higher than the paths and because of what we've talked about, uh, in that division they have the potential. They honestly, now that air Rogers is down, um, you know the the paths looking flawed, but they're not going to be the best division winners, even the a of c, I don't think, but they definitely have the potential to be, you know, be the guys coming in, coming in as the as the winners in that division. What do you think, do you do, do you predict?

Bob Kelly: 51:22

gonna happen? Yeah, I could see it. That's for damn short. Um, listen, the bill is just lost to A new york jets team without Aaron Rodgers and Zach Wilson, as they're starting quarterbacks. So, yeah, absolutely, man. I mean, you know, you, you get to a Rolling against any team in the NFL at this point with Tyreek Hill. Man, I don't think there's anyone that can stop them when they're actually rolling. You know it's, it's gonna be a tough team to beat, especially if you're gonna be turning the ball over like the bills tend to do. So, um, I could absolutely see them within that division. As far as this game, I completely agree that I think it is two flawed teams and I think it's um Two teams that you know. If it meant in the playoffs, it would be one of those things where it's like I know which one is gonna get that's gonna hit.

Dave Clarke: 52:06

A game like you just shaped up.

Bob Kelly: 52:08

Yeah, yeah, um, but yeah, I mean, I still don't really believe in the chargers as much. I do believe in the most because, like it's the problem, they're really, yeah, they're there's so that's just gonna be true. And for kelin, for kelo more to be. The answer is like man, I just went through kelo more for three years.

Dave Clarke: 52:31

I just fans. I guarantee you're gonna have moments where you're gonna love them. This place, too, looks like you got the grow on that one um Bro for real, but we'll get there come on. Um, I was. The one thing I will also point out is I was vocally talking shit about the dolphins off ends of lamics. They look like trash in the in the offseason. In the preseason I didn't. They made a lot of additions in the offseason, I mean they had a cleal mac and buck and bosa to contend with and they looked pretty good. They, they, they they loved the sack I didn't see any, because I was watching for them.

Bob Kelly: 53:01

I'm worried about, too, is fucking brain health.

Dave Clarke: 53:03

So I am watching for those sacks and I thought that week one was gonna be the one where he gets fucking destroyed, but I guess not. So maybe I was wrong about their offensive line and maybe they're just gonna, you know, come together as a unit job, but we'll see. Uh, another one to just watch this face on this. Um, uh, sorry um. On this team because I I do think that they're they have the potential in the division and then it potentially be very entertaining. Um, that's.

Bob Kelly: 53:30

It's, it's so you know. It's what you mentioned the the writer strike. It's funny because it kind of seems like we're rehashing the same exact conversations that we had last year, because, because it's the same exact goddamn script they're just putting the whole fucking thing out again. They got dolphins. Dolphins, yeah, I mean kind of good, we don't really know.

Dave Clarke: 53:49

Yeah, we'll do that, you're not wrong, I'm on that note.

Bob Kelly: 53:52

Uh, moving on to the Eagles?

Dave Clarke: 53:56

I Don't. We talked about them, uh, briefly, but as a more in-depth conversation. I'm a little worried about them. Um, I would maybe be worried if I was an Eagles fan. I think it's got a straight line all over it this season. I really do they are so fun? I think that they.

Bob Kelly: 54:14

Do what uh?

Dave Clarke: 54:15

who was the right back there? Did they pick up to yandere swift?

Bob Kelly: 54:20

Yeah, the swift. Yeah, I like their backs a little better last season.

Dave Clarke: 54:23

I like their coaching better last season. I like the, the ways that they were able to cover hurts and his the holes in his game last season. I don't, I, I don't think so. I, I just don't think so in the nfc. I don't think they're the. They're the powerhouse that we thought they were and, quite frankly, if I'm gonna overreact a week one Now about anything, I'm gonna overreact about the cowboys versus the eagles, because the cowboys look hell, a lot better than the eagles than we thought. So what do you think? Are you worried about these guys? I mean they, you know they haunt you.

Bob Kelly: 54:51

Um, no, to be perfectly honest, this is, this is the year, I think, that we overtake them. Um, because this will hang over. We we've talked about a year in and you're out, man, and I just think it proves itself every single year to be a thing that's, that is a legitimate real thing, and I I don't think losing Two of the best coordinators in the game can be understated. Like bro, when, when you have consistency in that offensive game room, in that defensive game room, it is everything you know. I mean, you know what to expect when you're breaking down tape, you know what offense you're running, you know what, you're, where you're supposed to be, when you're supposed to be there. You don't have to think about it, you just do it in. The lack of execution that you saw on sunday, in my opinion, is because of this. You know what I mean.

Dave Clarke: 55:39

Um, I do think a little bit did have to do it, bill, and you know being the mastermind is especially You're supposed to be in a one game, so you got to overcome Invincingly.

Bob Kelly: 55:53

Yeah, they should have put them away, because they were clearly the better team when we were all expecting it. Everyone was expecting it. And and If mac jones is going to sit there, what do you have?

Dave Clarke: 56:02

a hit of like 320 yards. Yeah, he was good.

Bob Kelly: 56:05

Yeah, you can't, you can't, you can't let mac jones do that to you if you're going to be one of the better defense. And you can't, you just can't, especially with the wide receiver core he has, um Was. I know the pass looked better this week, but I was expecting way more, way more out of jaylin hurts, way more. You're supposed to be an MVP candidate, bro, you know what I mean. He's supposed to be one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Coming into the show all this upside and it just didn't look like. Again, it's hard to react to a week one, but it didn't look like the Eagles that we thought it was going to be, didn't look like the Jalen Hurts. It didn't look like the offense. I was not like up and down, yeah.

Dave Clarke: 56:50

I mean, well, I guess we'll see, but I have a feeling that this might be a down here for them. We'll see how that goes. We sort of the cheester number three. We sort of talked about them already, but I do have to just call out your fucking, your same thing. You're doing the same thing again. You watch, lose what you. You spent the whole off season lamenting to me that I was right and you were wrong, that I should have just believed in the Chiefs, and then you're like dropping number three in the power ranks, the fucking champions and probably the best team on paper in the entire NFL. They was one game, week one, with their best player on offense out and their best player on defense out, and you're dropping them down to three because Ray said so. I don't get it.

Bob Kelly: 57:32

I had him a, I had him a two originally and I jumped one team up to number one. We'll get there in a second, just just just because I had to, because I was able to and would just to be back it up. But yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily think to the third best team, I still think to the champs. And you know, this week, to me, is going to be very telling, because if they go to Owen, who, then I think there's there's different things to talk about. But who do you say we? We said the point in Jags this week, right, yeah, that's going to be, it's going to be a good game. I can't wait for that. But if they go to Owen, to that's that's a whole different story. But I don't see it coming. I have a feeling they're going to be, it's going to be same thing, it's that they're going to be in the top three, all year?

Dave Clarke: 58:19

Similar question all year. To move Since we did a lot on the chiefs already. To move on to number two? Similar question how can both of these two things be true? Bobby says the Steelers are terrible. They're not good. They, you know they're not. They're not a good team, they're quarterback son of a. You know it doesn't prove anything to beat them. But if the 49ers go out there and beat them, then they're number two on the power rankings overall. Whoa, why is that such a big proof of life to you? In that in the 49ers sense I get that they looked elite defensively. I, and I really do think they looked elite. But I will say, like the Steelers looked fucking pathetic. Like I, I really do think that they looked worse. I would have. They would have looked like that against anybody. They looked like they had never met each other. I think they were in the field Like there was. It was absolutely God of awful. Their defense. I step behind everything. Their offense looked like it had no idea what it was doing. They did one thing right for the entirety of the game and it was Deontay Johnson making a like a nice little move and then he immediately goes down with the hand Me. I don't know what the fuck they were doing out there, to be honest. So it didn't prove a ton to me about the 49ers, especially when the night game then comes and the fucking Cowboys defense looks like that and it's like everyone's like foreign arms defense, foreign arms defense. It's like if you don't think the Pittsburgh Steelers are good, what does it prove to you?

Bob Kelly: 59:44

I just so my biggest question mark for them coming into the season. I knew that they were. We know what the defense is. We know what playmakers they have. We know everything. The only thing we were wondering is if Brock Hardy was healthy and if he could be a legitimate quarterback. And I thought he looked good on Sunday. I mean, I know it was only one week, but the fact that he went from noodle arm, we don't know if he can throw to. Making that one throw to who was it? Iuq.

Dave Clarke: 1:00:09

Yeah, it was IUQ in the corner of the end zone. They lit him up that day. It was awesome.

Bob Kelly: 1:00:14

Right, he was making some beautiful throws. So it's like if he can make those throws, I think the sky is still in steam. You know what I mean. If they have a guy, because you saw the team that they can be with a quarterback, they can't make those goddamn throws. You know what I mean. So if they have someone that consistently make those throws to their big time guys, they're a tough team to. Yeah, because the defense already convinced us. We know who they are.

Dave Clarke: 1:00:43

You know what I mean. We know I think that, yeah, I do. I'm not taking anything away from Brock Hardy. I really did think he had a great performance. I think I'd be more mad if somebody didn't have a great performance with the kind of weapons that they have. Like you can just hand it off to Christian McCaffrey and have him break off or run at any time. Ibo, iuq, you know these guys all over the field for soon for just really making them look leaders. I don't think that there's. I don't think that there's a reason they shouldn't be number two. I'm number two right now. In my head they're probably number three. For me it's probably still the chiefs at number two. I'm not mad that you put the Dallas Cowboys at number one. I think if they ever deserved the number one spot in the Power Rangers this after the open show lacking, they just handed out. I'm proud of them for scoring these so many points on fantasy, but also like that was a beat down bro, like I have never. I don't know, I don't really last time to see that I gave that offside it, especially a night game in prime time and against the giant scene that everybody had being above average, at least coming into this season. Danny Dimes, danny, fucking, do in time. Danny on his fucking, on his ass Like he got hit 56 times I felt bad for him. I did too. There were dropping balls every chance. They got picks, fumble, recovery sacks, tackles for loss, z, miss field goals, zero fucking points on the board. A fat goose, a 40 on the other end, scored a ton by the defense. That Cowboys defense is unbelievable man, and they're a really unit. They're a really unit now. And the guys that were look like flashy young you know the digs is of the world Flashy young players that maybe had some holes in their game, letting balls go over their head last season Nope, not the case anymore. Everybody's getting everybody's unit. It was a lot of fun to watch. It was genuinely a lot of fun to watch. I watched the entire game, Like when they were up there, 33 zero. I was still watching and texting with you and being like this is crazy, but yeah, I mean, I don't think we're going to do that every week, but man, what a confidence booster company. So please take your, take your moment with the Cowboys.

Bob Kelly: 1:02:47

Yeah, man, I thought the coolest thing was that by three, four minutes into the game you already had big plays by Parsons, you already had big plays by digs, you had big play by Pollard already. I have to talk about it. I told you.

Dave Clarke: 1:03:01

Paul, you know, by not being in a committee You're a terrorist. We said this, we said it's all night and day. But hey, you've got to say sorry to Mike McCarthy for talking that shit because he played. He called a hell of a game, he called the game and you know what else he did. He made that press, got the quarterback. I told you that press got needed to be to fucking for the Dallas Cowboys to be six.

Bob Kelly: 1:03:28

It doesn't. It doesn't hurt when you're up 30.

Dave Clarke: 1:03:30

But you run a game management from the offensive side, right when you, where you're asking the offense to score 14 to 21 points a week and you're managing the game and asking them more so to take care of the football and not turn it over. That's the most important thing. So your defense can go to fucking work. Ok, that's what I told you was going to be the key to the Cowboys success. Last season they did do it. This season seems like they're doing. It Seems like Dax buying. It seems like the play colleague is is seamless, and I'm into it. I don't usually love when a head coach takes over play calling. Usually that's a desperation. But before the season I thought was smart to just say nope, this is what I'm doing, this is what's happening, give me the keys. I'll be honest, I thought I didn't think it was going to go that well, and maybe it still won't. Maybe there's ways that he's going to get found out, but if the defense can consistently play like that, jesus Christ, does it even matter.

Bob Kelly: 1:04:22

No, it doesn't. Like I said, the offensive defensive or, if you want to get that, the offensive defense, because they have a chance to put up 21 points every single sheet and they're not going. No, they're definitely not going to, but they definitely, you know, they mean like any potential week, they can easily score multiple defensive touchdown. I thought what was so cool, too, was the smaller guys making the place like the egg. I can't pronounce the name of the guy that returned the field goal for the touchdown. You know we have Damon Clark make a place all over the place and the defensive line man that was the most impressive part of the whole thing is that one seven was just.

Dave Clarke: 1:05:03

You've got to be able to bring pressure. You've got to be a four or four. And they were able to. All that was immediate, you know, because, build on that pressure, it was, it was.

Bob Kelly: 1:05:18

Well, I think what's huge is now so Mike is. Mike is fully transitioned to that defensive end position. So you constantly you have to keep two eyes on him, two guys at all times, and that just frees up everything else and Mike is like a still getting his. But all the other guys have so much more freedom on that defensive line because he exists there now. Man, yeah, no, that that defense is going to be special For sure. I haven't had this much high hopes because, if you ask me, if you ask me, they were by far it wasn't even close the most top to bottom well rounded team of week one. And there's, it wasn't even close, if you ask me, you know, like offensive execution, defensive execution, special teams execution. The Dallas Cowboys, crazily enough, like I can't believe I'm saying this they executed that game Perfect and they don't do that. So if that's something that can actually be done by then and they can actually play clean football game in game out, I think that this could be, until we get to the playoffs, a whole different story. It could be a special.

Dave Clarke: 1:06:23

You can't even get excited about the postseason because of what the field was done, you know. I'll say this also as a final point and we can wrap this up they didn't do it under the radar, they did it in Sunday football, the first Sunday football game of the season, and I think that there's been a historic representation of folding under the lights for the Dallas Cowboys as a franchise since we've been alive or since we've been, like you know, teenagers on, I guess, and the pressure of being a Dallas Cowboy has, like you know, jerry Jones and like that whole thing, I think, is as historically been a problem, and I have to credit Mike McCarthy, I think, for this. I really do think that he's gotten that team all reading off the same hymn sheet, everybody's drinking that same Kool-Aid, and I was very impressed, very, very impressed by the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, I mean, I want to say, you know, you know you've been sort of trained now to be down or more down on them and like not get excited. And I was the one to like pump up the fucking Chicago Bears. Knowing that, not knowing that I'm going to be terrible. They laughed for you. I'm sure we're going to talk about the Dallas Cowboys quite a lot. I mean I'm really looking forward to watching this. You know, like favorite thing to watch is it is a Bullhawk Elite defense, my favorite thing in football. I haven't seen a defense like this in a long time. I mean the 49ers are a great unit, but I don't know if they have, like the special athletes, as many special athletes and is well coordinated of a defense as the Cowboys. They're very, very impressive and I don't have that weird Dallas Cowboys thing that everyone else seems to have, because they've always kind of been terrible since I've been watching football, so I don't really mind that they're good now. So, and you know, you're my buddy, so I'm happy for you. I appreciate the support.

Bob Kelly: 1:08:05

Okay so the.

Dave Clarke: 1:08:09

This week we have done our first regular season power rankings. It's going to be a lot of fun, as always, this week was just me and Bobby were hoping to get everybody else involved as the season goes on. But for myself, for the real BK, bob Kelly and everybody here, mr Wood, happy NFL season everybody. Good luck you.